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pauk
01-30-2013, 03:16 AM
When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?

HardwoodLegend
01-30-2013, 03:18 AM
Kobe is prone to pouting on the court through his actions.

This is a form of pouting, but it's a productive one.

RoundMoundOfReb
01-30-2013, 03:20 AM
Kobe system = 3-0

Graviton
01-30-2013, 03:22 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6s0fu9fsJ1rpga6zo1_400.jpg

1 starred, reported, printed out the page, mailed to AIDS foundations as a warning.

pauk
01-30-2013, 03:23 AM
Kobe is prone to pouting on the court through his actions.

This is a form of pouting, but it's a productive one.

I agree, its evident...

Mr. Jabbar
01-30-2013, 03:24 AM
OP, this is irrelevant in the context of the kobe system.

jstern
01-30-2013, 03:24 AM
It's only three games, he should continue his current way since it's working, and work from there.

pauk
01-30-2013, 03:24 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6s0fu9fsJ1rpga6zo1_400.jpg

1 starred, reported, printed out the page, mailed to AIDS foundations as a warning.

Apparently you didnt read & comprehend what i said?

G-Funk
01-30-2013, 03:26 AM
Haters never satisfied

Graviton
01-30-2013, 03:28 AM
Apparently you didnt read & comprehend what i said?
I assume you sucked up to Godbe now that you see he will lead his team to the Finals and crush Lebron.

You bash him 99% of the time, your fakeass humbleness is a disgrace. You are a chicken in sheep's clothing, waiting for the chance to speak ill of Godbe.

Deuce Bigalow
01-30-2013, 03:29 AM
Can you give me the 30 players better than Kobe again?

YourBrainIsGod
01-30-2013, 03:43 AM
It's an old cliche, but it's relevant in this instance.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's been working well the last few games, but teams will adjust soon, and kobe will have to find more of a balance with his scoring and playmaking. It will be interesting to see how this goes once the lakers face a solid defensive team.

tikay0
01-30-2013, 03:46 AM
It's an old cliche, but it's relevant in this instance.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's been working well the last few games, but teams will adjust soon, and kobe will have to find more of a balance with his scoring and playmaking. It will be interesting to see how this goes once the lakers face a solid defensive team.

Bingo.

Mr. Jabbar
01-30-2013, 03:47 AM
It's an old cliche, but it's relevant in this instance.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It's been working well the last few games, but teams will adjust soon, and kobe will have to find more of a balance with his scoring and playmaking. It will be interesting to see how this goes once the lakers face a solid defensive team.

Theres nothing much they can adjust, dont double kobe? lol, suicide. You'll either see kobe with 15 assists or 81 pts, either way is a Lakers win.

#kobesystem
#feelbadfor31teams

tikay0
01-30-2013, 03:52 AM
Theres nothing much they can adjust, dont double kobe? lol, suicide. You'll either see kobe with 15 assists or 81 pts, either way is a Lakers win.

#kobesystem
#feelbadfor31teams

Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:

Mr. Jabbar
01-30-2013, 03:58 AM
Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:

Kobe needed the team to hit rock bottom to achieve real motivation. What drives to success when you're already successful? extreme motivation.

You're an awful student of the kobe system.

RoundMoundOfReb
01-30-2013, 04:00 AM
Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:

That was before the Kobe system was implemented.

Mr. Jabbar
01-30-2013, 04:02 AM
That was before the Kobe system was implemented.

don't bother. that dude is stuck at half way through the first triangle of the kobe system diagram. how would he understand what success over success is if the guy hasn't been successful yet?

Graviton
01-30-2013, 04:04 AM
Kobe needed the team to hit rock bottom to achieve real motivation. What drives to success when you're already successful? extreme motivation.

You're an awful student of the kobe system.
Stop acting like you have advanced far in the Kobesystem, you are still a mere padawan.

But I have connected with Godbe through a psychic link only Kobe choses. He has told me that our forces are ready, our will is unbreakable, none shall oppose the takeover of Kobesystem. We must be patient and allow these fools to think they are safe, before Kobe himself rains down hellfire upon the nonbelievers.

RoundMoundOfReb
01-30-2013, 04:04 AM
don't bother. that dude is stuck at half way through the first triangle of the kobe system diagram. how would he understand what success over success is if the guy hasn't been successful yet?
:applause:

Maybe this vid will help him understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwwHJXLjg4

Deuce Bigalow
01-30-2013, 04:05 AM
Yeah. That's why my Bulls put single coverage on him with Jimmy Butler, and he went 7-22 with a .318 FG%, and a grand total of 16 pts.

Played 42 minutes that game.

:bowdown:
Except it wasn't single coverage.

RoundMoundOfReb
01-30-2013, 04:06 AM
tikay0 = aziz anzari in this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZupVXl1_Fg4

Mr. Jabbar
01-30-2013, 04:08 AM
:applause:

Maybe this vid will help him understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwwHJXLjg4

:applause:

This version of the kobe system is also interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKjU_XLEIS0

White Mamba
01-30-2013, 04:12 AM
Pauk, kobe takes 20 shots per game, like melo.

reason he had games with much more? missing key players, NASH, D12, PAU.

reason he shoot much less lately? he is not letting nash to run the offense, he runs it and do it in a much slow pace.

tonight the lakers won 102-76 on half court game,+26!!!!!, they won the game by just 5 because they got beat 30-9 on fastbreak.

bottom line is kobe didn't hog the ball before, it was nash running the offense and because of D12 horrific offensive game nash prefer kobe to shoot.

kobe is doing a better job of making D12 look solid. Nash play too fast for this team.

RoundMoundOfReb
01-30-2013, 04:14 AM
:applause:

This version of the kobe system is also interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKjU_XLEIS0
so is this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pfwgFq6j8Y

tikay0
01-30-2013, 04:17 AM
Kobe needed the team to hit rock bottom to achieve real motivation. What drives to success when you're already successful? extreme motivation.

You're an awful student of the kobe system.

Please teach me, oh wise one.....:rolleyes:

tikay0
01-30-2013, 04:17 AM
tikay0 = aziz anzari in this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZupVXl1_Fg4

:coleman:

Graviton
01-30-2013, 04:26 AM
Please teach me, oh wise one.....:rolleyes:
It's ok, one day when you are old, frail and broken, your grandchildren will ask "What did you do gramps when Godbe descended on our planet, cured cancer, abolished unfair laws and brought an end to world hunger?". And you won't be able to speak or comprehend their questions, for your soul will be shrouded in darkness for ever doubting Godbe. The light of our lord touches only those worthy of his greatness, your stubborn mistrust will doom you. Godbe forgives, but he does not support the heretics. You will be left defenseless against the forces of LeCifer James, the dark lord of the underworld.

RoundMoundOfReb
01-30-2013, 04:27 AM
It's ok, one day when you are old, frail and broken, your grandchildren will ask "What did you do gramps when Godbe descended on our planet, cured cancer, abolished unfair laws and brought an end to world hunger?". And you won't be able to speak or comprehend their questions, for your soul will be shrouded in darkness for ever doubting Godbe. The light of our lord touches only those worthy of his greatness, your stubborn mistrust will doom you. Godbe forgives, but he does not support the heretics. You will be left defenseless against the forces of LeCifer James, the dark lord of the underworld.
:applause: :applause:
brought a tear to my eye.

Kingwillball
01-30-2013, 04:59 AM
This Recent Run of Success playing Unselfish team ball by Kobe makes him look even worse IMO. If he Played like this all along Lakers would be a top 3 seed in the west. KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work so He and the team decided to try a different approach and right now it is working. Kobe scoring and Shots down but his Assists WAY up and team is winning. Will be interesting if they lose a couple games i a row if he reverts back to his old form or he stays the course the rest of the season playing like this ?

COnDEMnED
01-30-2013, 05:19 AM
:applause:

Maybe this vid will help him understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MwwHJXLjg4
I laugh every time. This and the Lebron/Kobe puppet commericials have my type of humor. Great stuff.

tikay0
01-30-2013, 05:20 AM
It's ok, one day when you are old, frail and broken, your grandchildren will ask "What did you do gramps when Godbe descended on our planet, cured cancer, abolished unfair laws and brought an end to world hunger?". And you won't be able to speak or comprehend their questions, for your soul will be shrouded in darkness for ever doubting Godbe. The light of our lord touches only those worthy of his greatness, your stubborn mistrust will doom you. Godbe forgives, but he does not support the heretics. You will be left defenseless against the forces of LeCifer James, the dark lord of the underworld.

:( .........:cry: ............:applause:

Magic 32
01-30-2013, 07:24 AM
KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work

Worked 5 times.

Blue&Orange
01-30-2013, 07:52 AM
When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?
I get it, he is effortlessly putting out great stats, that are kinda of overshadowing Lebron. So yeah i can see why you think he should take a notch down.

Maybe it should be Lebron taking a notch up on his already epic stat padding?


Hey Pauk it is possible for you to be a even bigger whiny little ph@ggot?

LBJ 23
01-30-2013, 09:32 AM
I get it, he is effortlessly putting out great stats, that are kinda of overshadowing Lebron. So yeah i can see why you think he should take a notch down.



How are his stats overshadowing Lebron though?

His stats may be overshadowing old selfish Kobe which is not the same as overshadowing Lebron?

INDI
01-30-2013, 09:52 AM
When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?

I agree 100 percent. Kobe is one of my favorite players but I must admit that he is not as intuitive as Lebron. I as a fan can admit that Kobe has a one track mind, when he is in score mode, that is his focus, when share the ball mode that is his focus. For instance:

I can predict Kobe's mindset for an entire game by watching how he starts off. When Kobe hits two shots in a row from the same area, you can bet 100 million dollars that the next time up the court he will attempt from that area. That's why happened when he broke the three point record, he hit a couple n kept pulling. That's just something built into his DNA, almost like a scientist when he finds something working he continues the experiment

The thing that you ask will never happen. Don't get sad, angry, or frustrated because it is his gift and curse. Had he not had this one tract mind then he would not have been the Kobe that we know that makes incredible plays.

The Iron Fist
01-30-2013, 12:34 PM
When people (critics, fans, analysts etc. including me) narrated that Kobe is not supposed to take 30 FGA with this team/roster and that he should try to get his teammates involved/create for his teammates more frequently they dont mean that he should take only 10 FGA.... They dont mean that this team literally does NOT need his scoring at all and that he should only pass the ball...

They mean that Kobe should pass when he should and score when he should... just make the right play....

The Lakers are winning and Kobes change of mindset right now, i love it..... it proves my (and many others) old point on how Kobe should acommodate himself for this team to be more successful and that unselfish game he is playing right now is my exact type of acquired taste in a player........... but my point here is i think the Lakers would be even more successful if he would combine both of these traits (scoring/passing) and that it could even hurt the Lakers in the long run if he does not... I mean he is taking only ~10 FGA now 3 games in a row (by his standards thats just abnormal) and by majority just forcing the pass to an extent i never seen him do before... it cant be good when he turns down so many of his deadly efficient routine scoring opportunities just to... i dont know, prove a point? or am i wrong?

Thoughts?
No you don't. It scares you. Btw, The Lakers won 5 titles with Kobes scoring mindset. No matter what you net geeks think, he knows how to win and has proved it over and over and over. There isn't just one way to be a winner in any sport. There are multiple ways as there have been many champions with many different styles of play. Kobe is just showing how versatile a player he really is. To be fair, I've always thought he would shine more playing like Magic instead of Michael. Of all players to come in the 90s, only Kobe is capable of doing what Magic did.

Cry about it bitches, I said it.

Kiddlovesnets
01-30-2013, 12:38 PM
Of course he is, some people never learn. Its like you tell a kid he speaks too much, and then in the next few days he does not even speak at all other than a simple 'Hello'.
:lol

Yao Ming's Foot
01-30-2013, 12:39 PM
I like how Lebron apologists seems to think his style of play is the key to winning based on a whopping one championship. Maybe if Lebron played like Kobe he would actually have the championship pedigree that would make this conversation not ridiculous.

scm5
01-30-2013, 12:54 PM
It's funny, while I love the way Nashbe is playing right now, I feel like he's doing it to "babysit" Dwight to wins.

It's kinda sickening. Kobe never had to do this with Bynum on the squad... but look at Dwight's defensive intensity once Kobe starts passing. If anything, Dwight was the one pouting his way to touches, and now that he has them, is willing to play defense.

Kiddlovesnets
01-30-2013, 12:56 PM
It's funny, while I love the way Nashbe is playing right now, I feel like he's doing it to "babysit" Dwight to wins.

It's kinda sickening. Kobe never had to do this with Bynum on the squad... but look at Dwight's defensive intensity once Kobe starts passing. If anything, Dwight was the one pouting his way to touches, and now that he has them, is willing to play defense.

Big men do become demoralized when they see guards jacking up shots, its not just for Dwight.

gasolina
01-30-2013, 12:59 PM
Some amazing kobe logic in ISH. As the season wore on

November - Lakers lose because they were missing key players, no Kobe don't change your game.

December - Lakers lose because Nash was running the offense, no Kobe don't change your game.

Early January - Lakers lose because his teammates suck, not Kobe. Go and trade Gasol and Dwight. Kobe's shotjacking is ok, he already won 5 championships.

Late January - #Kobesystem, Kobe Johnson taking over. All hail Godbe as he CHANGES his game for his team.

I'd like to see if Kobe fans would like him to revert to his "career efficiency" scoring style earlier this season.

scm5
01-30-2013, 01:01 PM
Big men do become demoralized when they see guards jacking up shots, its not just for Dwight.

I completely agree, most big men do.

Dwight is supposed to be a leader and the future of the Lakers. It's sickening.

staywhite
01-30-2013, 01:03 PM
Replace Kobe with LBJ on the lakers and nothing else. 3rd in the west

game3524
01-30-2013, 01:09 PM
This Recent Run of Success playing Unselfish team ball by Kobe makes him look even worse IMO. If he Played like this all along Lakers would be a top 3 seed in the west. KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work so He and the team decided to try a different approach and right now it is working. Kobe scoring and Shots down but his Assists WAY up and team is winning. Will be interesting if they lose a couple games i a row if he reverts back to his old form or he stays the course the rest of the season playing like this ?

Bullshit.

The Lakers are winning now because they slowed the pace of the game down by running the offense through Kobe in the post, which improved their biggest problem, their defense.

If anything, this shows how pointless it was to hire MDA.....when they should have gone after Phil or stayed with Bernie.

Yao Ming's Foot
01-30-2013, 01:11 PM
Big men do become demoralized when they see guards jacking up shots, its not just for Dwight.

Who else? I don't recall any other post players given a pass in this league for defense based on only getting the second most touches in the league.

KG always plays defense
Tim Duncan always plays defense
Al Horford always plays defense
Tyson Chandler always plays defense
Serge Ibaka always plays defense

What would the reaction be if Chris Bosh said that his defense and rebounding suck because hes not getting enough post touches?

scm5
01-30-2013, 01:12 PM
Replace Kobe with LBJ on the lakers and nothing else. 3rd in the west

While I don't disagree, there are a few factors you need to consider.

Kobe is old and can't run it like he used to. Kobe was never really a lightning quick player in the open court, he just has a good first step but he's not going to burn everyone down the court. Kobe is a much better half-court player than he is on a fast break.

Now that the offense has slowed down, if we had played this way since the beginning of the season, the Lakers might be 3rd or 4th in the West.

Just try and think about Kobe's skillset. He's a fantastic mid-range player and an amazing post player. That's a recipe for a great player in a slower paced, half court offense.

Lebron is built to run it. He is tremendous on fast breaks, possibly the best in the league. He is probably the strongest finisher in the NBA thanks to his size and athleticism, and he's still young.

Mr. Jabbar
01-30-2013, 01:13 PM
Big men do become demoralized when they see guards jacking up shots, its not just for Dwight.

look at this dummy :oldlol:

The Iron Fist
01-30-2013, 01:13 PM
While I don't disagree, there are a few factors you need to consider.

Kobe is old and can't run it like he used to. Kobe was never really a lightning quick player in the open court, he just has a good first step but he's not going to burn everyone down the court. Kobe is a much better half-court player than he is on a fast break.

Now that the offense has slowed down, if we had played this way since the beginning of the season, the Lakers might be 3rd or 4th in the West.

Just try and think about Kobe's skillset. He's a fantastic mid-range player and an amazing post player. That's a recipe for a great player in a slower paced, half court offense.

Lebron is built to run it. He is tremendous on fast breaks, possibly the best in the league. He is probably the strongest finisher in the NBA thanks to his size and athleticism, and he's still young.
:applause:

staywhite
01-30-2013, 01:18 PM
So... when they win its kobe system? when they get crushed its everyone elses fault?

AlphaWolf24
01-30-2013, 01:32 PM
WOOOWWWW!!!

some of you kids still think it's just about BBALL....a simple sport?

Look into the minds eye....go deeper then the physical/ surface and look into the spiritual..

Traits of a Alpha!

The Alpha male is stubborn. When he starts something he

scm5
01-30-2013, 01:36 PM
So... when they win its kobe system? when they get crushed its everyone elses fault?

No, we're winning now because we have everyone back and we've slowed down the offense.

Kobe playing like this helps a lot too, but mostly to get Dwight's head into the game. Dwight is so much more intense defensively now that he's getting his touches and the rest of the players seem to have more energy defensively now that the offense has slowed down. We're an old team.

DetroitPistonFan
01-30-2013, 03:09 PM
This Recent Run of Success playing Unselfish team ball by Kobe makes him look even worse IMO. If he Played like this all along Lakers would be a top 3 seed in the west. KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work so He and the team decided to try a different approach and right now it is working. Kobe scoring and Shots down but his Assists WAY up and team is winning. Will be interesting if they lose a couple games i a row if he reverts back to his old form or he stays the course the rest of the season playing like this ?
Jesus Christ! This is a stupid post. It doesn't matter if Kobe played team ball or take 40 shots every game. It's their team defense and turnovers that's the root of their problems. Get it through your head and watch the games. Just don't watch the televised games or look at the stats. :facepalm

Basketbolero
01-30-2013, 03:53 PM
This Recent Run of Success playing Unselfish team ball by Kobe makes him look even worse IMO. If he Played like this all along Lakers would be a top 3 seed in the west. KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work so He and the team decided to try a different approach and right now it is working. Kobe scoring and Shots down but his Assists WAY up and team is winning. Will be interesting if they lose a couple games i a row if he reverts back to his old form or he stays the course the rest of the season playing like this ?
:roll: This guy is ridiculous.

Don't worry, we get it, you hate Kobe.

ShaqAttack3234
01-30-2013, 04:01 PM
This Recent Run of Success playing Unselfish team ball by Kobe makes him look even worse IMO. If he Played like this all along Lakers would be a top 3 seed in the west. KObe being a Ball hog and Selfish didn't Work so He and the team decided to try a different approach and right now it is working. Kobe scoring and Shots down but his Assists WAY up and team is winning. Will be interesting if they lose a couple games i a row if he reverts back to his old form or he stays the course the rest of the season playing like this ?

3rd in the West? It's a 3 game winning streak. I seriously doubt they'd be better than the Spurs, Thunder or Clippers.

You make their problems sound a lot more simple than they are. Who thought Kobe would be the primary facilitator over Nash, especially once D'Antoni took over? A huge difference now is that they're no longer running the up-tempo system D'Antoni forced on them.

But with Gasol out 13 games and Nash out for 24, you really think it was so simple? Not to mention the coaching change.


It's funny, while I love the way Nashbe is playing right now, I feel like he's doing it to "babysit" Dwight to wins.

It's kinda sickening. Kobe never had to do this with Bynum on the squad... but look at Dwight's defensive intensity once Kobe starts passing. If anything, Dwight was the one pouting his way to touches, and now that he has them, is willing to play defense.

I agree with most of what you said, but not the part about Bynum. Bynum constantly bitched about touches, and rarely played the type of defense he was capable of. The one time he really played the way that was best for the team was after the all-star break in 2011, when he focused on defending and rebounding and was maybe the 5th option and exclusively a finisher offensively. He was great defensively, and I've never seen him play defense at that same level for an extended stretch.

Bynum is being glorified now because Dwight has been such a disappointment, but he was far from a model teammate who constantly played hard and had a good attitude. I've seen a ton of Laker fans do a complete 180 when it comes to Bynum.

Blue&Orange
01-30-2013, 04:06 PM
WOOOWWWW!!!

some of you kids still think it's just about BBALL....a simple sport?

Look into the minds eye....go deeper then the physical/ surface and look into the spiritual..

Traits of a Alpha!

The Alpha male is stubborn. When he starts something he’s passionate about, no one can stop him or pull back on the reigns. He’s in it until the end. He’s also open-minded and willing to listen to other points of view. He knows he’s flawed and stubborn, so he gives way and learns from people. ( It took awhile for Kobes stubborness to give....he's just so damn Alpha)

An Alpha male is a Problem Solver. In a company or organization, he will always be put in a challenging position and because of this, he will be highly regarded and compensated. He will always be the best at what he does.

A True Alpha male is not bossy. Not at all. He likes to listen to others’ opinions. If he is in a position of leadership he will let everyone share their thoughts and collectively find the solution. That’s why his co- workers love him! His team always wins.

Alpha males Demonstrate Strength. The kind of strength that will make a woman believe that she is safe with him and that he can protect her when it comes to that. Women are generally the weaker sex, and always look for comfort in Alpha males; men who are dominant.

Alpha males talk slowly. They never rush things, they are always in control. They have a way of having there audience eat at their every word. They know they are important and when they talk they command this importance.

They walk slowly, not not lazily. There is a difference. Alpha males are very controlled people. They are not always in a rush like everyone else. An Alpha male will be very disciplined to be on time or earlier for a meeting and well prepared. He will therefor have enough time to observe and think through his strategy
Howard continues to play like he always played, getting more touches and not caring about his free throws, Kobe had to reinvent himself and drastically modify his game... yes he is the Alpha male in here.:lol

If there was any doubt that Kobe is a epic ring chaser, it's gone, dude is willing to be Howard's bitch as long he gets another ring.

ShaqAttack3234
01-30-2013, 04:07 PM
Howard continues to play like he always played, getting more touches and not caring about his free throws

You think this is how Howard played in Orlando? That's simply not true.

pauk
01-30-2013, 04:12 PM
Some very valid points, like i said i love what Kobe is doing right now, dont get me wrong... but i just think as the type of scorer he is (one of the very few best scorers i ever seen and he still is arguably the best scorer in the NBA) restraining that ability to such extent in order to maky everybody happy (not just his teammates) is just not fair against his natural game and tremendous scoring ability, it might not be good for the Lakers in the longrun if he is gona continue to take only ~10 FGA.... But ofcourse its only 3 games so far, every game is different... I am just over-analyzing i guess :P

Deuce Bigalow
01-30-2013, 04:14 PM
Big men do become demoralized when they see guards jacking up shots, its not just for Dwight.
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Kiddlovesnets
01-30-2013, 06:37 PM
Kiddlovestocheatandbeathiswifeandduiis

lol what you dummy? Btw its time to change your user title from 'the playoffs?' to 'no playoffs'.
:lol

pauk
01-31-2013, 02:15 AM
*bump*

See what i mean? He really needs to incorporate his scoring earlier... yes sometimes he can get away with trying to score only when his team really needs him to (in the clutch for example), but more often it is way to risky as a scorer might not have the rythm and will not know if he has that rythm or not until he found that out, better to find that out early than late..... causing you to miss even something as the easiest layup ever.... he cant expect to just burst out his scoring to 100% success only whenever he wants...

I think Kobe needs to find his rythm early and keep it close, while still doing the facilitating...

Nero Tulip
01-31-2013, 02:29 AM
Still not passing off double teams, chucking horrible contested long 2s, bad 3s...

So no, you're completely wrong. They're playing a lot better when he passes more, if they want to win Kobe needs to shoot less.

tmacattack33
01-31-2013, 02:36 AM
Still not passing off double teams, chucking horrible contested long 2s, bad 3s...

So no, you're completely wrong. They're playing a lot better when he passes more, if they want to win Kobe needs to shoot less.

Well obviously if he shoots 7 for 17 that won't lead to success.

Ideally 20 points on good efficiency, and a good passing game with like 7 assists a game would be good.

I don't think he has the vision to attack himself offensively and at the same time find open players though. He can rondo up some assists when he tries to be aware of his teammates and doesn't look for his shots. But can't score and automatically see a good pass when it's there at the same time.