You know What really "Grinds my gears?"

[Joey3000]

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You know what really Grinds my gears? If Rose was never hurt, and Chicago was first in their division and 3 overall in the east... He would be ahead of Carmelo and maybe even Lebron (cuz we all hate Lebron) in the MVP race.

People would be carrying on about how he is doing it with a cast of role players and how he makes people around him better.

People would be saying he is better than the likes of Wade because Wade would never be able to have that kinda record with this kinda team at this stage in his career.

People would be saying Kobe needs to take notes.

But now that this team is succeeding on their own... do they get any credit? Hell no. People are just waiting for Rose to get back so they can see a spectacular Dunk.

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News Flash!!! Spectacular Dunks and Layups are not what makes Chicago the Chicago bulls good. Cross overs and chest pounding is not what wins games.

Rose is just glider. Nothing else. This team thrives on great defense and consistency. Sharing the ball. Trusting each other.

Many would Argue that Rose will make them a contender. Again, no he wont. What makes them a contender is great defense and consistency. Sharing the ball. Trusting each other.


And that, Insidehoops... is what really Grinds my gears

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron owns Rose's soul

[TheMarkMadsen]

LeBron owns My soul

Fixed

[(e)]

As a Bulls fan, we can't win it all without Rose. But having Rose gives us a chance.

Bulls win their games with defense, rebounding, and having an unselfish team concept that is usually executed really well. But how many times have we seen Rose take over a close game in the 4th and lead Chicago to a victory? He's a closer, and you're drunk if you don't think he makes Chicago a much more complete team.

[Joey3000]

As a Bulls fan, we can't win it all without Rose. But having Rose gives us a chance.

Bulls win their games with defense, rebounding, and having an unselfish team concept that is usually executed really well. But how many times have we seen Rose take over a close game in the 4th and lead Chicago to a victory? He's a closer, and you're drunk if you don't think he makes Chicago a much more complete team.

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That is Bull Crap sir. Have they not been making clutch plays without him? Are they not on par to match or exceed last years record with out him? Did he make them a contender when Lebron put the clamps on him in the playoffs last year?

He is only there as the face of the team. Yeah he gets all the credit, but he is not the reason for their success.

The minute he gets back and does one reverse dunk you wil hear "THE CHICAGO BULLS ARE BACK!!!"

:coleman:

[SwayDizzle]

I don't know man...He's the star of the team. They can only go so far without him. He's like the cherry on top of a very solid team (defensively). He hasn't had that much playoff experience, so it's not fair to judge his past performances as the end all. His ceiling was high (this obviously changed after he tore his acl). And....he does make them a contender imo. If he can be close to as explosive as he was, they are contenders, no denying that.

[Joey3000]

I don't know man...He's the star of the team. They can only go so far without him. He's like the cherry on top of a very solid team (defensively). He hasn't had that much playoff experience, so it's not fair to judge his past performances as the end all. His ceiling was high (this obviously changed after he tore his acl). And....he does make them a contender imo. If he can be close to as explosive as he was, they are contenders, no denying that.


And that there is the problem. He hasn

[Crown&Coke]

[QUOTE=Joey3000]And that there is the problem. He hasn

[nathanjizzle]

:roll:

pls tell us OP. how many bulls games did you watch in 2011-2012? be honest. 3?:roll:

and do you really believe melo is above rose? rofl.

and for you to say if rose was healthy they would be 3rd in conference. LOL they would be first, like they have been the last 2 years

[Joey3000]

They can win without him in the regular season. But the playoffs one guy can put you over the top.

You got a legit gripe, the Bulls are playing amazing together and that defense is still one of the best. But when the game is on the line and buttholes pucker up in the crunch, I want Rose out there rather than not


But look at them this season, they have won in the clutch. Guys like Boozer, Deng and even Noah have made huge plays in the lutch that have decided games.

I understand the playoffs are different, but what has he done in the playoffs thats so great? He lead the team to 4 straight loses against Miami. in those 4 games, the Rose lead bulls didnt even put up a fight.


I for one think they are deadlier now than last year because Lebron cant put the clamps on 5 players on the floor. No heroes, you just gotta gaurd everybody.

[Joey3000]

:roll:

pls tell us OP. how many bulls games did you watch in 2011-2012? be honest. 3?:roll:

and do you really believe melo is above rose? rofl.

and for you to say if rose was healthy they would be 3rd in conference. LOL they would be first, like they have been the last 2 years

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You know what really Grinds my Gears? Making baseless comments and following them by ":roll: and :oldlol: " like you just stated facts and killed my whole argument.

That really grinds my gears.

[nathanjizzle]

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You know what really Grinds my Gears? Making baseless comments and following them by ":roll: and :oldlol: " like you just stated facts and killed my whole argument.

That really grinds my gears.

baseless? my questions were to expose you as an ignorant basketball fan and your beliefs as laughable.

again, you actually think melo is better than rose :roll:

and i also stated facts to prove you as an idiot. since the bulls were first in the nba both seasons prior with a .70 win percentage, and you stating they would be 3rd this year with a healthy rose is idiotic.:roll:

again, so be real. how many bulls games did you watch in 2011-2012

[nathanjizzle]

i just did some stat checking knowing i would prove this idiot wrong. here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6

2012-2013 (no rose)
4-5


That decline :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :banana:

[RoseCity07]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0

[chazzy]

I agree that Rose got too much credit for the Bulls' turnaround when a big reason was their defense/becoming becoming elite, but this team could definitely use his offensive impact. The Bulls last year were a legit contender IMO because they were good at both ends, and if they didn't get hit by injuries I wonder how far they could've gone. This year, they're still good defensively despite losing Brewer/Asik, but they've fallen off on offense... that's where his impact is felt. They were a cohesive unit with Rose last year offensively and the ball movement was much improved from a year before, but now they're sorely missing that. He would've been the difference between the Bulls being a playoff team and a contender depending on how he developed.

LeBron owns Rose's soul
This is like saying THE SPURS OWN LEBRON's SOUL a couple years after the fact, as if he can't get better

[Joey3000]

baseless? my questions were to expose you as an ignorant basketball fan and your beliefs as laughable.

again, you actually think melo is better than rose :roll:

and i also stated facts to prove you as an idiot. since the bulls were first in the nba both seasons prior with a .70 win percentage, and you stating they would be 3rd this year with a healthy rose is idiotic.:roll:

again, so be real. how many bulls games did you watch in 2011-2012

:oldlol: Last year about this time Chicago was at 5-5.:lol Right at .500. It was a short season,:oldlol: but :roll: they are playing more now:cheers: without him and winning more.:applause: :rockon:


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Do you see what I did there? do you see? I just made a bunch of "Facts" that has nothing to do with the original argument. put a bunch of smilies by them. and felt good about myself.

And that kinda stuff really "grinds my gears".

[tikay0]

Bulls fans are supposed to give a **** what you think, why exactly???

We're the ones that get to enjoy all his breath taking moments, while you sit on the side lines hating.

#THERETURN

[Joey3000]

I agree that Rose got too much credit for the Bulls' turnaround when a big reason was their defense/becoming becoming elite, but this team could definitely use his offensive impact. The Bulls last year were a legit contender IMO because they were good at both ends, and if they didn't get hit by injuries I wonder how far they could've gone. This year, they're still good defensively despite losing Brewer/Asik, but they've fallen off on offense... that's where his impact is felt. They were a cohesive unit with Rose last year offensively and the ball movement was much improved from a year before, but now they're sorely missing that. He would've been the difference between the Bulls being a playoff team and a contender depending on how he developed.

This is like saying THE SPURS OWN LEBRON's SOUL a couple years after the fact, as if he can't get better


I'm not saying Rose is not a good player. I'm just saying that this team does more for him than he does for them. He is known as the "Most Valuable player" on that team, yet if I take out Noah and Deng for example and put him in... that team is not going to the playoffs. Chicago is a "real" team.

Would he make them better? YES. Are they doomed with out him? check their record.

[nathanjizzle]

:oldlol: Last year about this time Chicago was at 5-5.:lol Right at .500. It was a short season,:oldlol: but :roll: they are playing more now:cheers: without him and winning more.:applause: :rockon:


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Do you see what I did there? do you see? I just made a bunch of "Facts" that has nothing to do with the original argument. put a bunch of smilies by them. and felt good about myself.

And that kinda stuff really "grinds my gears".

lol, exposed as an ignorant guesser. last year bulls were 23-7 midway through the season :roll:

[tikay0]

lol, exposed as an ignorant guesser. last year bulls were 23-7 midway through the season :roll:

Save your time and energy bro. You know you've made it, when you have this many haters.

[Joey3000]

Bulls fans are supposed to give a **** what you think, why exactly???

We're the ones that get to enjoy all his breath taking moments, while you sit on the side lines hating.

#THERETURN

Breath taking moments are nice. I have no problem with that.

But dont make it more than what it is.

Making statements like Rose is heads and shoulders above the following players:

Carmelo
Westbrook
Chris freaking Paul
Rondo
etc

When he has done nothing to back up those arguements really "Grinds my gears"

[nathanjizzle]

i just did some stat checking knowing i would prove this idiot wrong. here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6

2012-2013 (no rose)
4-5


That decline :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :banana:

bump

[Joey3000]

lol, exposed as an ignorant guesser. last year bulls were 23-7 midway through the season :roll:

My point was that it was a short season. and as of Jan 31/2012 Chicago was 5-5.

Stop grinding my gears.

[tikay0]

Breath taking moments are nice. I have no problem with that.

But dont make it more than what it is.

Making statements like Rose is heads and shoulders above the following players:

Carmelo
Westbrook
Chris freaking Paul
Rondo
etc

When he has done nothing to back up those arguements really "Grinds my gears"

I'd take him over any of those players. I'm not even saying that as a Bulls fan. He owns them all H2H, besides Carmelo, due to position.

[nathanjizzle]

Breath taking moments are nice. I have no problem with that.

But dont make it more than what it is.

Making statements like Rose is heads and shoulders above the following players:

Carmelo
Westbrook
Chris freaking Paul
Rondo
etc

When he has done nothing to back up those arguements really "Grinds my gears"

are you stupid? you created the thread, you made the "statement" first with "nothing to back up those arguements":facepalm

i gave you stats, made you look like an idiot, exposed u as a guesser, and you know damn well youve watched 3 bulls games each season.

end this thread.

[tikay0]

Yeah, yeah, it's bleacher reports, but check this out TS.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/812771-derrick-rose-and-the-top-five-point-guards-based-on-head-to-head-contests

ETHER.

[Joey3000]

I'd take him over any of those players. I'm not even saying that as a Bulls fan. He owns them all H2H, besides Carmelo, due to position.


I have no problem with you taking him over any of them. That

[imdaman99]

rose is chicago's son. he is the heir apparent even though no one will ever come close again. i have no problem with bulls fans overrating him. every teams fans do that. i am more subjective with melo, i feel like he needs to D up properly to ever be amongst the elite.

he is the closer. which is not to say they cant close without him. belinelli has hit game winners, deng has as well. what they can no longer say is that "this team wouldn't even make the playoffs with him" like they were doing all throughout his mvp season. i had no problem with him winning the mvp either, i may not think he deserved it but he was easily the best player on the team with the best record.

as a knicks fan, i've already seen them get owned 3 times against the bulls without him. i welcome him back, maybe it will give them more of a chance :lol smh

[imdaman99]

[QUOTE=Joey3000]I have no problem with you taking him over any of them. That

[Joey3000]

Yeah, yeah, it's bleacher reports, but check this out TS.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/812771-derrick-rose-and-the-top-five-point-guards-based-on-head-to-head-contests

ETHER.

So him out playing those guys has nothing to do with his team

[tikay0]

[QUOTE=Joey3000]I have no problem with you taking him over any of them. That

[Glide2keva]

Rose must be coming back soon because the haters are getting in mid-season troll form.

[Joey3000]

Thats all the time we have today. Tune in next time for another episode of

"What really Grinds my gears"

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[Ikill]

:roll:

pls tell us OP. how many bulls games did you watch in 2011-2012? be honest. 3?:roll:

and do you really believe melo is above rose? rofl.

and for you to say if rose was healthy they would be 3rd in conference. LOL they would be first, like they have been the last 2 years
You can definitely make a case that Melo is playing better than 2011 Rose this year.

[tikay0]

Thats all the time we have today. Tune in next time for another episode of

"What really Grinds my gears"

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Bro. If you would've proven a point, this would've been some what amusing, but you came in here, and made an ass out of yourself.

Your now, bowing out in defeat, and trying to be funny about it.

You got sonned by nearly every Bulls fan in here.

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[Jacks3]

Bulls offense with Rose: #5
Bulls offense without Rose: #21

Them "sharing the ball" means nothing when they have zero play-makers and scorers. They've survived without him because of their amazing defense, but won't do anything in the playoffs. Another 1st-round exit unless he comes back.

Basically,

Bulls with healthy Rose: 62+ wins/Very strong contender
Bulls with without Rose: Solid team that has no chance to win it all.

[Joey3000]

Bro. If you would've proven a point, this would've been some what amusing, but you came in here, and made an ass out of yourself.

Your now, bowing out in defeat, and trying to be funny about it.

You got sonned by nearly every Bulls fan in here.

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No I made all my points. Yall got butt hurt and started putting up a bunch of smilies thinking your making points.

[nathanjizzle]

the only point that OP has proven was the point that he is a low IQ nba fan.

[nathanjizzle]

No I made all my points. Yall got butt hurt and started putting up a bunch of smilies thinking your making points.

are you this delusional? you made no points at all, you gave us a poor opinion.

[Joey3000]

are you this delusional? you made no points at all, you gave us a poor opinion.


Here are my points:


The Bulls are obviously not a bad team with out Rose.



The Bulls as a team dont get enough credit for what they are doing with out their star player.



People act like Rose has lead this team to huge wins in the playoffs, but cant name any of these Huge wins since all the teams they haven beaten have been teams that were not that great.



Infact, theres nothing to dispute here. Those are all facts.

[nightprowler10]

I apologize in advance for the following wall of text.

You know what really grinds my gears? People taking credit away from Rose after watching a handful of Bulls games every season. I've missed just a handful of Bulls games in the last 5 years. Here's a high level description of Rose vs the rest of the team since his rookie season.

2009/10:

Bulls under Vinny del Negro were just biding the time before they go and sign a big name during the infamous 2010 FA. Rose was still learning to show leadership on the floor. The team respected him, but he struggled in this role and never tried to take over games and deferred to his teammates too much. This was horrible to watch as we'd blow leads all the time and struggled to get any rhythm. It wasn't until a few weeks before the all-star break that he started taking over and we started winning games. Had he been doing that all year, we would have a better record and I'm sure he'd be in the MVP talks.

2010/11:

Bulls acquire 9 FAs and a new coach. Lose Boozer and Noah to injury throughout the season (they combined to miss something like 55 games). Thibs, who is by far the reason we have a good record this year, did not coach offense. At all. Go watch any of the games from that year. Rose, by Thibs own admission, was his plan on offense. If you need further proof, watch how bad our offense was whenever Rose wasn't on the court. Thibs was excellent defensively, but he barely ever did anything on offense. Almost all of his timeouts were taken when the bulls did something stupid defensively, never to get the offense going, because again Rose WAS his offense. This lack of planning on Thibs part caused undue fatigue for Rose and he started breaking down in the playoffs, even starting from the 1st round. Not saying we would've beaten Miami with a fresh Derrick though, after all, our offense still depended too much on Rose.

2011/12:

Starting from game 1 of the season on Xmas day against the Lakers, you could tell Thibs had made some huge adjustments in his offensive planning, as in, he actually had a plan now. The interior passing became excellent and the ball didn't need to be in Rose's hands on every possession for us to score. Due to the excellent coaching we became very productive on offense with or without Rose, though we still needed Rose to facilitate the offense against elite PGs or when we couldn't get the offense going no matter what. Even in his injury ridden season, he brought us back into games several times and hit game winners. Again though, the team wasn

[tikay0]

[QUOTE=nightprowler10]I apologize in advance for the following wall of text.

You know what really grinds my gears? People taking credit away from Rose after watching a handful of Bulls games every season. I've missed just a handful of Bulls games in the last 5 years. Here's a high level description of Rose vs the rest of the team since his rookie season.

2009/10:

Bulls under Vinny del Negro were just biding the time before they go and sign a big name during the infamous 2010 FA. Rose was still learning to show leadership on the floor. The team respected him, but he struggled in this role and never tried to take over games and deferred to his teammates too much. This was horrible to watch as we'd blow leads all the time and struggled to get any rhythm. It wasn't until a few weeks before the all-star break that he started taking over and we started winning games. Had he been doing that all year, we would have a better record and I'm sure he'd be in the MVP talks.

2010/11:

Bulls acquire 9 FAs and a new coach. Lose Boozer and Noah to injury throughout the season (they combined to miss something like 55 games). Thibs, who is by far the reason we have a good record this year, did not coach offense. At all. Go watch any of the games from that year. Rose, by Thibs own admission, was his plan on offense. If you need further proof, watch how bad our offense was whenever Rose wasn't on the court. Thibs was excellent defensively, but he barely ever did anything on offense. Almost all of his timeouts were taken when the bulls did something stupid defensively, never to get the offense going, because again Rose WAS his offense. This lack of planning on Thibs part caused undue fatigue for Rose and he started breaking down in the playoffs, even starting from the 1st round. Not saying we would've beaten Miami with a fresh Derrick though, after all, our offense still depended too much on Rose.

2011/12:

Starting from game 1 of the season on Xmas day against the Lakers, you could tell Thibs had made some huge adjustments in his offensive planning, as in, he actually had a plan now. The interior passing became excellent and the ball didn't need to be in Rose's hands on every possession for us to score. Due to the excellent coaching we became very productive on offense with or without Rose, though we still needed Rose to facilitate the offense against elite PGs or when we couldn't get the offense going no matter what. Even in his injury ridden season, he brought us back into games several times and hit game winners. Again though, the team wasn

[tikay0]

[QUOTE=Joey3000]So him out playing those guys has nothing to do with his team

[SwayDizzle]

[QUOTE=Joey3000]And that there is the problem. He hasn

[Fatstogey]

Sorry bra but no. Lebron is the best basketball player on planet earth right now. I dont care if people are tired of him getting mvp, he deserves it. Lebron even deserved it when rose got it last time.

Dont give his mvp to someone else again. It already happened once.

[nathanjizzle]

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
4-7

:roll:

[nathanjizzle]

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
4-8

:roll:

[nathanjizzle]

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
4-10

OP pls explain

[nightprowler10]

Between these last few posts and my wall of text on the last page, I really don't see how anyone can keep arguing this point unless they're trolling.

[nathanjizzle]

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
5-12

[Joey3000]

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
5-12

Got any more updates for me JACKASS?

and that ladies and gentlemen is what grinds my gears.

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[nathanjizzle]

Got any more updates for me JACKASS?

and that ladies and gentlemen is what grinds my gears.

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are you stupid?

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
5-12

[Joey3000]

are you stupid?

update*

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
5-12


Only "updates" I see are the bulls playing their hearts out while injured and winning in the playoffs while that ****boy sits on the bench. He is healthier than the whole team, yet they are out there banging and risking it all.

Thats the kinda guy you f@gs love to defend.

[nathanjizzle]

Only "updates" I see are the bulls playing their hearts out while injured and winning in the playoffs while that ****boy sits on the bench. He is healthier than the whole team, yet they are out there banging and risking it all.

Thats the kinda guy you f@gs love to defend.

cool, thats your opinion, its been said a million times already. calling me a ****** wont make you right about rose or change those stats.

stay mad.

[Joey3000]

Again, like I said in the opening post, Chicago is a defensive machine. They bang, they push, and they dont give up. Rose just benefits from their hard work.

If he was playing right now, he would be getting all the credit for their W's right now when in truth, he had nothing to do with it. It was allll defense.

[nathanjizzle]

Again, like I said in the opening post, Chicago is a defensive machine. They bang, they push, and they dont give up. Rose just benefits from their hard work.

If he was playing right now, he would be getting all the credit for their W's right now when in truth, he had nothing to do with it. It was allll defense.

stop embarrassing yourself.

[nathanjizzle]

bump

here are the bulls records against the top 8 teams in the league for 3 seasons one with a healthy rose, one with a semi healthy rose, and one with no rose.

2010-2011 (healthy rose)
14-7

2011-2012 (semi healthy rose)
9-6


2012-2013 (no rose)
5-12

[Joey3000]

cool, thats your opinion, its been said a million times already. calling me a ****** wont make you right about rose or change those stats.

stay mad.

Yeah but your still a ****boy tho.

Anyway, rose is overratted. If any team is afraid of Chicago is not afraid of rose... they are scared of tuff nose grinding defense.

[nathanjizzle]

Yeah but your still a ****boy tho.

Anyway, rose is overratted. If any team is afraid of Chicago is not afraid of rose... they are scared of tuff nose grinding defense.

poor opinion.

[Kblaze8855]

What grinds my gears is that a team that was on a 66-68 win pace with Rose last year and won 62 the season before wins 44 or 45 games and has people acting like it proves Roses impact was overstated as if 15-20 wins worse isnt the usual impact of a HOF guard.

[SillyRabbit]

What grinds my gears is that a team that was on a 66-68 win pace with Rose last year and won 62 the season before wins 44 or 45 games and has people acting like it proves Roses impact was overstated as if 15-20 wins worse isnt the usual impact of a HOF guard.

:biggums:

[Joey3000]

What grinds my gears is that a team that was on a 66-68 win pace with Rose last year and won 62 the season before wins 44 or 45 games and has people acting like it proves Roses impact was overstated as if 15-20 wins worse isnt the usual impact of a HOF guard.


And that... is what really... grinds my gears.

[dontgetchoked]

You acting like its crazy, but hes already in the hall of fame. How many NBA MVP's arent in the hall of fame? Plus if you look back at teams who lost a hall of fame level player, 15-20 is basically the average number.

It seems to me that derrick rose, for some reason, is what grinds your gears. Drose played through Many injuries before this season. He had sprained ankles and stomach ulcers throughout his MVP season but he only missed 1 game. As far as i'm concerned he has earned the right to sit as long as he feels like. Dude loves basketball and is a huge competetor, i dont understand why people are so mad about him not playing, especially fans of other teams.

[Legends66NBA7]

You acting like its crazy, but hes already in the hall of fame. How many NBA MVP's arent in the hall of fame? Plus if you look back at teams who lost a hall of fame level player, 15-20 is basically the average number.

Yeah, he will be in the HOF no matter what. I thought the MVP made it a lock.

[Kblaze8855]

And that... is what really... grinds my gears.

Real talk is the best lubricant.

He's accomplished as much as many if not most guards already in. It doesn't take as much as people think. Go see what Dave Bing actually accomplished. Rose replicates his 2010 season 10 times he's probably in without ever being MVP.

[nathanjizzle]

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You know what really Grinds my gears? If Rose was never hurt, and Chicago was first in their division and 3 overall in the east... He would be ahead of Carmelo and maybe even Lebron (cuz we all hate Lebron) in the MVP race.

People would be carrying on about how he is doing it with a cast of role players and how he makes people around him better.

People would be saying he is better than the likes of Wade because Wade would never be able to have that kinda record with this kinda team at this stage in his career.

People would be saying Kobe needs to take notes.

But now that this team is succeeding on their own... do they get any credit? Hell no. People are just waiting for Rose to get back so they can see a spectacular Dunk.

http://www.musclehack.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/grinds-my-gears.jpg

News Flash!!! Spectacular Dunks and Layups are not what makes Chicago the Chicago bulls good. Cross overs and chest pounding is not what wins games.

Rose is just glider. Nothing else. This team thrives on great defense and consistency. Sharing the ball. Trusting each other.

Many would Argue that Rose will make them a contender. Again, no he wont. What makes them a contender is great defense and consistency. Sharing the ball. Trusting each other.


And that, Insidehoops... is what really Grinds my gears

bump. bulls are currently 9-16 without rose.
this is what "grinds my gears" when people post garbage and believe it themselves.