KG for Bledsoe & Butler?

[iDunk]

@SeanDeveney

The #Clippers have contacted the #Celticsabout Kevin Garnett. Offer would include Caron Butler and Beldsoe.

Would that put DeAndre on the bench or would KG be coming off the bench?

[Celtic_Pride]

F*ck NO

Celtics are already having a better version of Bledsoe in Bradley. If they move KG or Pierce, I hope they get back a big or a wing player!

[Derka]

The Clips want KG? Seems redundant.

[ballinhun8]

Butler is washed up and the Celts already have a better version of Bledsoe in Bradley.


Stupid rumor.

[iamgine]

KG off the bench but still more minutes/game than Deandre.

[Derka]

Lets not forget KG's no-trade clause. I don't see him waiving that for a deal where he becomes a bench player, even for a contender.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Lets not forget KG's no-trade clause. I don't see him waiving that for a deal where he becomes a bench player, even for a contender.

I highly doubt KG would be a bench player, KG would become the Clippers center, DJ would go back to the bench.

[Rubio2Gasol]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=be98m38

If Boston wants to screw over the Lakers , Heat and an assortment of other contenders while at the same time getting low price decent pieces. They can get the Toronto 1st as well.

Boston is taking back Perkins...yea...I know...but you're getting Orton,Lamb,Jones and a first. Give them another pick if necessary. I don't think I need to go into how much KG would add to the team.

[game3524]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=be98m38

If Boston wants to screw over the Lakers , Heat and an assortment of other contenders while at the same time getting low price decent pieces. They can get the Toronto 1st as well.

Boston is taking back Perkins...yea...I know...but you're getting Orton,Lamb,Jones and a first. Give them another pick if necessary. I don't think I need to go into how much KG would add to the team.

You might as well hand the trophy to OKC if that goes down.

[Derka]

I highly doubt KG would be a bench player, KG would become the Clippers center, DJ would go back to the bench.
A $10 million reserve? DJ's activity around the rim is sort of a big part of their offensive scheme, isn't it? You wanna throw the Clips' chemistry into whack like that going down the stretch? Just seems like weird trade.

[Rubio2Gasol]

You might as well hand the trophy to OKC if that goes down.

That is somewhat the point.

[Burgz V2]

why would either team do this?

[Clippersfan86]

A $10 million reserve? DJ's activity around the rim is sort of a big part of their offensive scheme, isn't it? You wanna throw the Clips' chemistry into whack like that going down the stretch? Just seems like weird trade.

As much as I love KG it's weird for both sides. From Celtics POV it's a PG till Rondo is back, long time backup or trade asset in Bledsoe who fits in with their defensive system. Butler though would be an 8 mill a year bench piece and the opposite of what they will want for a rebuild. For the Clippers KG is a huge boost at center but then we have an unhappy, 10 mill a year bench piece. Not to mention KG is 36 or so and will maintain a high level of play 2 years max. I mean he already almost retired last summer.

[Derka]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=be98m38

If Boston wants to screw over the Lakers , Heat and an assortment of other contenders while at the same time getting low price decent pieces. They can get the Toronto 1st as well.

Boston is taking back Perkins...yea...I know...but you're getting Orton,Lamb,Jones and a first. Give them another pick if necessary. I don't think I need to go into how much KG would add to the team.
Perk is of little use without KG there. The Toronto pick would entice me more if this draft class wasn't so subpar.

[TheMarkMadsen]

As much as I love KG it's weird for both sides. From Celtics POV it's a PG till Rondo is back, long time backup or trade asset in Bledsoe who fits in with their defensive system. Butler though would be an 8 mill a year bench piece and the opposite of what they will want for a rebuild. For the Clippers KG is a huge boost at center but then we have an unhappy, 10 mill a year bench piece. Not to mention KG is 36 or so and will maintain a high level of play t ywars max. I mean he already almost retired last summer.


Clippers need to do whatever they can to solidify their chances to at least make the finals so that CP3 will stay.

I find it weird that even during their winning streak he didn't re sign

[Grinder]

I believe KG has a no trade clause so any deal that would go down would have to be with his approval. Don't like this trade for either team anyway.

[Derka]

As much as I love KG it's weird for both sides. From Celtics POV it's a PG till Rondo is back, long time backup or trade asset in Bledsoe who fits in with their defensive system. Butler though would be an 8 mill a year bench piece and the opposite of what they will want for a rebuild. For the Clippers KG is a huge boost at center but then we have an unhappy, 10 mill a year bench piece. Not to mention KG is 36 or so and will maintain a high level of play t ywars max. I mean he already almost retired last summer.
All good points.

Seems moot to me though, because I don't see KG waiving his no-trade for this deal. Despite the record, he likes playing in Boston.

[Myth]

Lets not forget KG's no-trade clause.

KG has a no-trade clause? Or is it a trade kicker? I thought only Dirk and Kobe have no-trade clauses.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If the Celtics are going to blow the team up they can get a better deal for Garnett. With Green and Pierce the Cs have no use for Butler and Bledsoe is a reserve guard, of which the Cs have plenty.

[Derka]

KG has a no-trade clause? Or is it a trade kicker? I thought only Dirk and Kobe have no-trade clauses.
Nope, full-blown no trade. Only four in the NBA this season.

[MeLO MvP 15]

I actually love this from just an NBA fan point of view. However, I hate this in the fact that it makes the Clippers insanely talented. Like I personally think it would make them the favorites to win it all after this trade. I mean some could say the Clippers are the favorites right now, if you add KG... I mean it's just scary.

I know Bledsoe gets madly over-rated, but he's really not nearly good enough that would make one consider this isn't an amazing deal for LAC.

I actually don't like this for Boston though. I think they can do better. I don't think Bledsoe is bad, but he's obviously much worse than Rondo and on the same level as Bradley IMO. I know Rondo is out for this year, but what do you do next year? Use one of your main assets off the bench (Bledsoe)? Trade one of them (Rondo's value will be lower because of the injury)?

Clippers fans won't like this because it's not as much of a steal for them... but I think this is something Boston would definitely do:

Jordan and Bledsoe for KG and Bradley.

KG takes all of Jordan's minutes at C. Bradley is a much better fit than Bledsoe, less of a PG but with Billups coming back they don't need a back up PG as much.

Jordan provides the center Boston has needed for like 5 years. When Rondo comes back next year, they should make a nasty duo.... even if their FT shooting will be atrocious. Bledsoe gives them a PG for this season and they probably hold onto the 8th seed if they don't trade Pierce too. They probably look to trade Bledsoe before he's up for an extension unless he really performs out of his mind.

Some other spots that have a nice package for KG and would be nice fits: Denver, Chicago, San Antonio and NY. They're all good teams that could make a finals run so he probably wouldn't say no to any of them.

[Derka]

There is no way in hell Boston does Avery for Bledsoe. None.

[Clippersfan86]

There is no way in hell Boston does Avery for Bledsoe. None.

Agreed. The big difference between the two is Bradley has proven he can score more consistently and hit open shots.

[Mach_3]

To many guards, not enough bigs.

[Al Thornton]

i think the celtics would rather have odom's expiring contract than butler

[Nash]

Lets not forget KG's no-trade clause. I don't see him waiving that for a deal where he becomes a bench player, even for a contender.
KG would not mind. Contender + he gets to live in LA which is were his family lives in the off season.

[Derka]

KG would not mind. Contender + he gets to live in LA which is were his family lives in the off season.

Yes he would.

[Haymaker]

KG don't like change, he's a creature of habit. He's a Celtic at heart and if he gets traded, he will retire at the end of the season.

[Al Thornton]

kg wouldn't become a bench player on the clippers. jordan technically starts but plays less than 25 mpg and rarely finishes games.

[fefe]

I really do not understand why OKC is not all over a KG deal already.
They have the pieces, and KG would really make them the best team in the league.

[Artillery]

I really do not understand why OKC is not all over a KG deal already.
They have the pieces, and KG would really make them the best team in the league.

At the end of the day, they're still a small market team and have to be careful about any move that would put them over the lux tax limit

[Lebron23]

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/4fdb51aceab8eaa52a000021/kevin-garnett-angry-gif.gif

[Rubio2Gasol]

At the end of the day, they're still a small market team and have to be careful about any move that would put them over the lux tax limit

It wouldn't.

[JohnnySic]

This trade does nothing for the Celtics.

[CelticBaller]

Throw in Deandre Jordan and MAYBE. :oldlol:

[Dbrog]

I really do not understand why OKC is not all over a KG deal already.
They have the pieces, and KG would really make them the best team in the league.

Cause KG would make Westbrook cry :oldlol:

[andremiller07]

I can't see why the Celtics would do it unless they plan to trade Bradley (no chance they will), Terry, Lee and Barbosa which would not be easy to do. On top of that they got Green/Pierce @SF making Butler useless to them.

[Bcogswell]

Doesn't really make to much sense for either team.. :confusedshrug:

[Magic bird]

KG having a no-trade clause would NEVER accept this



After what he did to Ray, He would be a hypocrite to move to the Clippers.

[ihatetimthomas]

As much as I love KG it's weird for both sides. From Celtics POV it's a PG till Rondo is back, long time backup or trade asset in Bledsoe who fits in with their defensive system. Butler though would be an 8 mill a year bench piece and the opposite of what they will want for a rebuild. For the Clippers KG is a huge boost at center but then we have an unhappy, 10 mill a year bench piece. Not to mention KG is 36 or so and will maintain a high level of play 2 years max. I mean he already almost retired last summer.

May sound like a weird trade but KG makes any team better and that includes the Clippers. DJ goes to the bench, but he has improved this season and is certainly tradeable unlike last year. Plus he can learn a thing or two from KG.

[Clippersfan86]

May sound like a weird trade but KG makes any team better and that includes the Clippers. DJ goes to the bench, but he has improved this season and is certainly tradeable unlike last year. Plus he can learn a thing or two from KG.

More it sits with me, more I want it. As for Celtics fans in denial saying he would never waive his trade clause... you realize him going to the Clippers makes them the favorites to win it all right? Boston is a tier 2 or 3 team at best right now and for the forseeable future about to go into a full blown rebuild. So not only WOULD he go to the Clippers in LA where he lives at in the offseason and his kids are but.... the Clippers wouldn't be a betrayal like the Lakers may be.

He's 36 and maybe two years from retirement so it's only fair to let him go out with a bang. Clippers traded Cassell to the Celtics to respect him and give him a shot at a ring they couldn't provide and this would be no different. Not to mention Bledsoe is a nice trade asset or even long term asset to keep for Boston. For now a starting backcourt of Bledsoe+Bradley would give teams nightmares while Rondo is out.

Then even if Rondo comes back and isn't traded you got one of the top 2-3 backup PG's in the game with awesome upside and if all else fails he has good trade value to be swung right away for a big.

Ideally the trade would be even bigger so Boston gets more rebuilding pieces, while the Clippers get more win now pieces.

KG+Pierce for Bledsoe+DJ+Butler+Odom. Odom expires at the end of the year so that's 8 mill off the books. Then you have Butler coming off the books for 8 mill the year after. Bledsoe+DJ are still raw but high upside assets for a rebuilding team trying to go young.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sullinger
DJ

6th man: Bledsoe

is a fantastic young core.

[red1]

celtics say hell no

[andremiller07]

Imo a third team has to get involved and Boston get something else decent for them to do this.

[Clippersfan86]

Imo a third team has to get involved and Boston get something else decent for them to do this.

Saw an interesting trade proposal earlier by somebody on another forum with the Kings as the third team. Clippers got KG+Terry, Kings got Bledsoe+Butler, Celtics got Cousins and somebody else, forgot.

[TMT]

Makes zero sense for Celtics unless DeAndre Jordan is involved, which then makes zero sense for the Clippers. I'm calling bs.

[andremiller07]

Saw an interesting trade proposal earlier by somebody on another forum with the Kings as the third team. Clippers got KG+Terry, Kings got Bledsoe+Butler, Celtics got Cousins and somebody else, forgot.

I think Rekindle did it in one of his threads. I wonder if the Celtics would want Thompson/Thornton instead, I was thinking maybe along the lines of Portland maybe to try add a little bit of depth getting some of Bostons/Clipps pieces for say Hickson.

[Clippersfan86]

I think Rekindle did it I wonder if the Celtics would want Thompson/Thornton instead, I was thinking maybe along the lines of Portland maybe to try add a little bit of depth getting some of Bostons/Clipps pieces for say Hickson.

Oh maybe it was Rekindle. Yea... I just hope something changes. Honestly I think a great coach would fix most of the Clippers issues but unfortunately our front office is in love with Vinny and will never axe him.

[jdm_dc_fan]

Clippers need to do whatever they can to solidify their chances to at least make the finals so that CP3 will stay.

I find it weird that even during their winning streak he didn't re sign

That's all I can think about too!!! Lets say the clippers get knocked out in the first round again; I guarantee paul is out and howard will follow.

[Al Thornton]

That's all I can think about too!!! Lets say the clippers get knocked out in the first round again; I guarantee paul is out and howard will follow.

the clippers never got knocked out in the first round!! how are u this clueless!!! paul can't resign until july!!! if he extended his contract he could not get the same money!! don't be this dumb!! it hurts to read!!!!

[jdm_dc_fan]

the clippers never got knocked out in the first round!! how are u this clueless!!! paul can't resign until july!!! if he extended his contract he could not get the same money!! don't be this dumb!! it hurts to read!!!!
I say first round because needing 7 games to get passed the first round to then be swept in the second sounds so much worse. Clippers had no business in the second round last season.
If CP doesn't make the wcf he WILL most likely not resign.

[Clippersfan86]

I say first round because needing 7 games to get passed the first round to then be swept in the second sounds so much worse. Clippers had no business in the second round last season.
If CP doesn't make the wcf he WILL most likely not resign.

5 best players injured, got to second round= had no business there? If anything I'd say they had no business getting swept and if healthy would have pushed the Spurs to 6 or 7.

[Myth]

Nope, full-blown no trade. Only four in the NBA this season.

You're right. I see that he and Duncan were added to the list.

[Al Thornton]

I say first round because needing 7 games to get passed the first round to then be swept in the second sounds so much worse. Clippers had no business in the second round last season.
If CP doesn't make the wcf he WILL most likely not resign.

lmao stop it!! so embarrassing to read

[Eric Cartman]

I say first round because needing 7 games to get passed the first round to then be swept in the second sounds so much worse. Clippers had no business in the second round last season.
If CP doesn't make the wcf he WILL most likely not resign.

Flaming fagggot.

[KrizMiz]

Make it happen - so i can hate more on the clippers!

[Crown&Coke]

Celts would probably want a legit starting big in return, a center to be more precise.

I don't see the Clips moving DJ, so I don't see how these two teams straight up would do it.

Denver should be lining up to move one of its 3 centers, Moz gonna walk.

[guy]

Don't see why the Celtics would want Butler for 2 years instead of Odom's expiring contract. I also don't see why the Celtics would want Bledsoe when they have Rondo, but don't the Celtics want Demarcus Cousins? It would make sense for the Celtics to flip Bledsoe for Cousins. On top of that, it doesn't seem like the Kings really care for former ROY Tyreke Evans so why not trade him and try to get some more picks out of it? Clippers could offer Billups, who's barely played and is an expirer, while the Celtics could also offer Jason Terry to the Clippers. The trade would look like this:

Clippers receive: Kevin Garnett, Jason Terry
Celtics receive: Demarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Lamar Odom
Kings receive: Eric Bledsoe, Chauncey Billups, all the picks that would be involved in the deal.

Clippers get better specifically with KG anchoring the defense, and Jet being able to replace the punch of the bench Bledsoe was.

Celtics get to go forward with a core built around Rondo/Evans/Cousins/Green and get rid of the Jet who really hasn't worked out.

Kings get rid of two young players they weren't high on and get one back while getting some picks.

Maybe the Kings don't really get much, but I'm just thinking aloud :cheers: .

[brandonislegend]

5 best players injured, got to second round= had no business there? If anything I'd say they had no business getting swept and if healthy would have pushed the Spurs to 6 or 7.

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/you-are-so-delusional-Blair-Waldorf-gossip-girl-other-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-267.gif

[brandonislegend]

Don't see why the Celtics would want Butler for 2 years instead of Odom's expiring contract. I also don't see why the Celtics would want Bledsoe when they have Rondo, but don't the Celtics want Demarcus Cousins? It would make sense for the Celtics to flip Bledsoe for Cousins. On top of that, it doesn't seem like the Kings really care for former ROY Tyreke Evans so why not trade him and try to get some more picks out of it? Clippers could offer Billups, who's barely played and is an expirer, while the Celtics could also offer Jason Terry to the Clippers. The trade would look like this:

Clippers receive: Kevin Garnett, Jason Terry
Celtics receive: Demarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Lamar Odom
Kings receive: Eric Bledsoe, Chauncey Billups, all the picks that would be involved in the deal.

Clippers get better specifically with KG anchoring the defense, and Jet being able to replace the punch of the bench Bledsoe was.

Celtics get to go forward with a core built around Rondo/Evans/Cousins/Green and get rid of the Jet who really hasn't worked out.

Kings get rid of two young players they weren't high on and get one back while getting some picks.

Maybe the Kings don't really get much, but I'm just thinking aloud :cheers: .

:biggums: :wtf: :facepalm

[BlackWhiteGreen]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-clippers-garnett-20130204%2C0%2C5007341.story

[QUOTE]The Clippers are not pursuing Boston Celtics center Kevin Garnett despite what has been reported, according to NBA officials who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Furthermore, the Clippers

[Darius]

This would be a great trade for the Clippers.

Deandre gums up the paint. If the 2nd big can't help on Griffin because they have to respect Garnett's jumper, Blake will have far more opportunity downlow.

Additionally, we have a big than can run a reliable pick and pop with CP3 (his favorite play) and a guy who plays better defense.

Celtics fans are correct in that other teams could make better offers but what they are failing to see is that with Garnett's No Trade Clause the Celtics would conceivably have very few options on where to trade him (in any).

I've heard that his family lives in LA in the off-season and LA is a great place to live... if he can live in LA and win a championship it would make some sense to allow a trade to the Clippers.

I doubt he wants to go live in OKC (who have better pieces). NYC/MIA have nothing to offer.

[Clippersfan86]

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/you-are-so-delusional-Blair-Waldorf-gossip-girl-other-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-267.gif

Blake Griffin Hyperextended knee, probable torn Meniscus. Chris Paul severe groin pull (Had it near end of season, came back too soon). Caron Butler broken hand. Chauncey Billups out torn Achilles. Mo Williams torn ligament in shooting hand thumb.

That's 5 players and they so happen to be our 5 best players. The minute CP3+Blake got injured their performances for the rest of the playoffs plummeted and the Clippers blew a 3-1 series over the lead just about.

[guy]

:biggums: :wtf: :facepalm

What? They haven't been high on them, especially Cousins who's been in numerous trade rumors. Like I said, maybe the Kings aren't getting much back. You can remove Evans, Billups, and Terry from the deal, and it is a more realistic trade.

[brandonislegend]

What? They haven't been high on them, especially Cousins who's been in numerous trade rumors. Like I said, maybe the Kings aren't getting much back. You can remove Evans, Billups, and Terry from the deal, and it is a more realistic trade.

Except for the fact they have said multiple times that DMC is not for trade :wtf:

[Al Thornton]

kg is probably not going anywhere so this deal makes way more sense at this time next year. cp will have already signed his contract, butler will be an expiring contract, and bledsoe will be on the final year of his rookie contract when the clippers really have to trade him.

[Derka]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-clippers-garnett-20130204%2C0%2C5007341.story

ESPN was reporting yesterday that no discussion ever took place.

But that's the sports media...just come up with random shit and no one bothers to hold you accountable for it.