View Full Version : Paul George or Loul Deng
ralph_i_el
02-04-2013, 10:20 AM
Who do you think has more impact right now? Both guys are elite wing defenders but I think I'd take George. I think any team in the league would fit him into their starting lineup just due to how versatile he is defensively and how good he is at spreading the floor.
Maybe I'm just biased because he's winning my fantasy league for me
who do you have? :confusedshrug:
Edit: seems like most people like George. Where do you rank him among SF's?
nathanjizzle
02-04-2013, 10:44 AM
paul george
SacJB Shady
02-04-2013, 10:46 AM
sometimes I feel that we make these topics in lack of things to think about. At the end of the day, their both good.
Mr Exlax
02-04-2013, 11:08 AM
Paul George from even last season for me lol.
JerryWest
02-04-2013, 11:12 AM
Paul George
Jolokia
02-04-2013, 11:18 AM
Paul George
alenleomessi
02-04-2013, 12:23 PM
george is right after lebron, melo and durant
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 12:33 PM
I can see people taking George due to age and potential but right now Deng is the better player. I'll take Deng.
RoundMoundOfReb
02-04-2013, 12:35 PM
sometimes I feel that we make these topics in lack of things to think about. At the end of the day, their both good.
they're*
nathanjizzle
02-04-2013, 12:47 PM
I can see people taking George due to age and potential but right now Deng is the better player. I'll take Deng.
u have the poorest basketball opinion. you actually dont even think the bulls could beat the heat, go home.
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 12:52 PM
u have the poorest basketball opinion. you actually dont even think the bulls could beat the heat, go home.
1. I am home ya big dumb bitch.
2. I never said the Bulls couldn't beat the Heat, I have stated that I feel we need more scoring than we have now to make me confident that we are the better team. I don't WANT the Heat to be better but as it stands they are. It's called being logical, being the master of my emotions little boy, maybe one day you'll evolve into a man and understand.
3. What the **** is a "poor opinion?". My opinion is based on sound logic.
a. The Heat are defending Champs
b. The health of D Rose is still in question
c. We have not beaten the Heat in a playoff series WITH a healthy D. Rose.
Whenever I have trouble putting aside my bias to predict game outcomes I think to myself, "if your kid's life was on the line, who would you bet for."
Sadly, I'd bet on LBJ and the Heat even though I damn near loathe them and love the Bulls.
You can say what you want but you're a little suburban bitch trying to be hard on the internet. I'd go to your neighborhood with my brother's and do whatever the **** I want. You'd come to my hood and be scared to even fart loud *****.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Paul George.
lpublic_enemyl
02-04-2013, 01:00 PM
George :pimp: this guy on draft night was the one player i wanted tor to get, it's hard to believe he is so young
nathanjizzle
02-04-2013, 01:19 PM
1. I am home ya big dumb bitch.
2. I never said the Bulls couldn't beat the Heat, I have stated that I feel we need more scoring than we have now to make me confident that we are the better team. I don't WANT the Heat to be better but as it stands they are. It's called being logical, being the master of my emotions little boy, maybe one day you'll evolve into a man and understand.
3. What the **** is a "poor opinion?". My opinion is based on sound logic.
a. The Heat are defending Champs
b. The health of D Rose is still in question
c. We have not beaten the Heat in a playoff series WITH a healthy D. Rose.
Whenever I have trouble putting aside my bias to predict game outcomes I think to myself, "if your kid's life was on the line, who would you bet for."
Sadly, I'd bet on LBJ and the Heat even though I damn near loathe them and love the Bulls.
You can say what you want but you're a little suburban bitch trying to be hard on the internet. I'd go to your neighborhood with my brother's and do whatever the **** I want. You'd come to my hood and be scared to even fart loud *****.
lol typical chicago monkey. thinkin you would be tough because your in the suburbs. come try me ******, i grew up in cicero and moved to the suburbs, thats called progressing unlike your dumb ass and the dumb ****s in your commmunity that dont have the capacity to do so.
Bcogswell
02-04-2013, 01:22 PM
George based off of his age and his play.
LEFT4DEAD
02-04-2013, 01:24 PM
They are about equal right now, great defenders, George more talented on offense, Deng better team player, but since George is so young, and has so much potential, obviously he has the edge here. I'm expecting him to be an elite defender, one of the best of all time on perimeter when he finishes his career, and along with that he will give his team 21-24 ppg. Great career is ahead of him.
brandonislegend
02-04-2013, 01:47 PM
They are about equal right now, great defenders, George more talented on offense, Deng better team player, but since George is so young, and has so much potential, obviously he has the edge here. I'm expecting him to be an elite defender, one of the best of all time on perimeter when he finishes his career, and along with that he will give his team 21-24 ppg. Great career is ahead of him.
:rolleyes:
Rekindled
02-04-2013, 01:54 PM
They are about equal right now, great defenders, George more talented on offense, Deng better team player, but since George is so young, and has so much potential, obviously he has the edge here. I'm expecting him to be an elite defender, one of the best of all time on perimeter when he finishes his career, and along with that he will give his team 21-24 ppg. Great career is ahead of him.
wtf. george is a better passer than Deng. George even plays point forward sometimes since indy doesnt really have a pure point guard.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 01:57 PM
George :pimp: this guy on draft night was the one player i wanted tor to get, it's hard to believe he is so young
A lot of Bulls fans are with you on that.
Kellogs4toniee
02-04-2013, 02:13 PM
As a life-long Bulls fan who truly appreciates the way Deng has catered his game for us the last 4-5 years, and who strongly believes he deserves his two all-star appearances, it's Paul George by a solid margin.
Deng has peaked. He is a great on the ball defender. He is tremendous off the ball, and plays well in a team-system. His biggest weakness back in the early 2000's, his 3-point shooting, has been vastly improved the last four to five years. Something that is much appreciated considering we are building around Rose. So he is pretty much at his peak right now.
Paul George though, already has all of Deng's tools. This includes his defense, his ability to play off the ball (he has to in that Indy system), and 3-point shooting. On top of that, watching him play this year, it is clear that George has the tools to be a franchise-type of player or at the very least a tier one player (top 10 in the league). Many experts have agreed as well. I have been very impressed with his play-making ability this year, as well as his ability to take over in long periods of time during a game. This is a hard feat considering he is on a team with Hibbert, West, and George Hill. By that fact alone, you take him over Deng 10 out of 10 times.
The only thing Deng has on George right now is maturity and the experience of hitting clutch shots. But that is more due to the fact that George is only in his third year.
gabepizza
02-04-2013, 02:36 PM
1. I am home ya big dumb bitch.
2. I never said the Bulls couldn't beat the Heat, I have stated that I feel we need more scoring than we have now to make me confident that we are the better team. I don't WANT the Heat to be better but as it stands they are. It's called being logical, being the master of my emotions little boy, maybe one day you'll evolve into a man and understand.
3. What the **** is a "poor opinion?". My opinion is based on sound logic.
a. The Heat are defending Champs
b. The health of D Rose is still in question
c. We have not beaten the Heat in a playoff series WITH a healthy D. Rose.
Whenever I have trouble putting aside my bias to predict game outcomes I think to myself, "if your kid's life was on the line, who would you bet for."
Sadly, I'd bet on LBJ and the Heat even though I damn near loathe them and love the Bulls.
You can say what you want but you're a little suburban bitch trying to be hard on the internet. I'd go to your neighborhood with my brother's and do whatever the **** I want. You'd come to my hood and be scared to even fart loud *****.
Until the first squad car roll by. lol
tikay0
02-04-2013, 02:38 PM
Until the first squad car roll by. lol
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bKfj_9fKbcM/T7P4lumOa8I/AAAAAAAAASY/wVre2jCvprI/s1600/TreatedJgrnt_Promo_640.jpg
Obviously Ill take Paul George but I think Deng is one of the more underrated players in the NBA...Just when I think he's limited in a certain area, he proves otherwise...
I'd say George because even though they are close right now, Deng has already reached his full potential while George has room to improve IMO.
Bigsmoke
02-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Maybe George.
imdaman99
02-04-2013, 04:21 PM
I'll take George. A lot more potential considering Deng already peaked. I feel like George can ugly it up in the trenches of a tough playoff game. Seen too many disappearing acts by Deng in the playoffs.
mentallooser
02-04-2013, 04:22 PM
George, but I'm a Pacers fan and can't be trusted here.
CHi1PriDe
02-04-2013, 04:25 PM
George easily.
97 bulls
02-04-2013, 04:39 PM
George. Dengs game has not improved. He can't create his own shot. Even if he could develop a post game. Hed be able to take a lot of pressure of Rose. I think hes a good defender not a great defender.
Ive never been a big Deng fan for the role hes expected to play offensively, which is the Bulls second best scorer
George, but I'm a Pacers fan and can't be trusted here.
Lots of Bulls fans agree with George being better though
ganja0710
02-04-2013, 04:43 PM
George now, George later on. Dude has so much more room to improve.
LEFT4DEAD
02-04-2013, 05:04 PM
wtf. george is a better passer than Deng. George even plays point forward sometimes since indy doesnt really have a pure point guard.
Its just dumb to compare them in passing since they are both below average passers. What I meant is that Paul George is playing more iso ball than Deng and therefore has more turnovers per game.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 05:16 PM
George. Dengs game has not improved. He can't create his own shot. Even if he could develop a post game. Hed be able to take a lot of pressure of Rose. I think hes a good defender not a great defender.
Ive never been a big Deng fan for the role hes expected to play offensively, which is the Bulls second best scorer
That's actually Boozer's job.
97 bulls
02-04-2013, 05:40 PM
That's actually Boozer's job.
True. I was more refering to from the perimeter.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 05:42 PM
True. I was more refering to from the perimeter.
Yeah, you right.
Beatlezz
02-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Paul George.
Cali Syndicate
02-04-2013, 05:59 PM
I'm not sure if there is one GM that wouldn't pick George over Deng as of right now moving forward.
But I want to hear more about Chicago monkeys and that suburban thug shit. Grrrrrrr :mad:
hitmanyr2k
02-04-2013, 06:28 PM
That's actually Boozer's job.
Which is the main reason I've never had faith in the Bulls to beat Miami in the long run.
Magic bird
02-04-2013, 06:38 PM
Paul George
97 bulls
02-04-2013, 06:56 PM
Which is the main reason I've never had faith in the Bulls to beat Miami in the long run.
Exactly. Boozer and Deng are number 3/4 type guys are a typical championship caliber team.
Id rank them along the lines of Byron Scott, Kukoc, Aing, Rice, type players. The Bulls need another franchise player to tag team with Rose
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 07:14 PM
lol typical chicago monkey. thinkin you would be tough because your in the suburbs. come try me ******, i grew up in cicero and moved to the suburbs, thats called progressing unlike your dumb ass and the dumb ****s in your commmunity that dont have the capacity to do so.
Lmao!
I talk to YOU like that because you say foolish stuff like this. Calling blacks monkeys is cowardly and boarderline racist. You get on ISH making backhanded comments about blacks and then act like black people are all bad or all ignorant yet you claim o be a fan of the Bulls, a team with many black players.
My mother moved to the suburbs as well. But my family is still in the City. Most of them because they want to be, some because they can't afford to live elsewhere.
I wouldn't dare go into any suburbs thinking that I run shit, but if the suburb had a lame like you that acts tough on the net calling blacks monkeys, I would LOVE to visit with the guys from Roseland and make you eat your words.
Everyone has the capacity to change for the better, including lame bigoted idiots like you. I'm sorry that being afraid to speak your mind and be a man has failed you in real life resulting in you using these mud slinging tactics on the web. Maybe when your nuts drop you'll be less intimidated by blacks or whatever your issue is.
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 07:19 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bKfj_9fKbcM/T7P4lumOa8I/AAAAAAAAASY/wVre2jCvprI/s1600/TreatedJgrnt_Promo_640.jpg
My boy (Lee Majorz) raps with them, funny.
And if your friend knew anything about Chicago he'd know certain cats (myself NOT included) couldn't care less if a police car rolled by they'll shoot at the police as well.
Not saying I'm proud of any of this I'm getting my education and I want to spend my future with my kid, I just want to whoop ole boy's ass for all the backhanded "monkeys" he's called blacks throughout his posts. I never meant to offend anyone but him.
Clocian-IGN
02-04-2013, 07:20 PM
George because of age
Cermet
02-04-2013, 07:21 PM
isn't George like an over sized SG?
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 07:27 PM
isn't George like an over sized SG?
I don't know. Is he a SG? A SF? Both?
At any rate, if I wanted to win NOW I'd pick Deng, if I was buildng a team I'd pick George....he hasn't "done it" for long enough to make me consider taking him over deng for the moment, but it is close.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 08:11 PM
My boy (Lee Majorz) raps with them, funny.
And if your friend knew anything about Chicago he'd know certain cats (myself NOT included) couldn't care less if a police car rolled by they'll shoot at the police as well.
Not saying I'm proud of any of this I'm getting my education and I want to spend my future with my kid, I just want to whoop ole boy's ass for all the backhanded "monkeys" he's called blacks throughout his posts. I never meant to offend anyone but him.
You just embarrassed yourself with this post. No real street dude is shooting at the cops. Especially no brothas.
Stop with the city act. You post online, "you aint bout that life" my dude.
My kin folk stay in Pulaski/Ferdinad area. Majority of them GD/Folk nation. I am in no way affiliated at all. I stay in LA (little Africa) In Darien, where most of those Cabrini Green monkeys migrated to.
To even act hard online is down right laughable, when there are real G's out hustling, and bangin fa real.
"You aint bout that life" cuz.
Edit: Check my cousin out in Fredo's new music video with YaYa White.
Murdawood ain up to no gud!
You just embarrassed yourself with this post. No real street dude is shooting at the cops. Especially no brothas.
Stop with the city act. You post online, "you aint bout that life" my dude.
My kin folk stay in Pulaski/Ferdinad area. Majority of them GD/Folk nation. I am in no way affiliated at all. I stay in LA (little Africa) In Darien, where most of those Cabrini Green monkeys migrated to.
To even act hard online is down right laughable, when there are real G's out hustling, and bangin fa real.
"You aint bout that life" cuz.
Edit: Check my cousin out in Fredo's new music video with YaYa White.
Murdawood in da house!!!!!
I don't see why you're jumping on dude....All he did was give some background just like you did....I'm glad he's calling that racist dude out....I agree with you though, I'm in the city, Naptown to be exact and we hate the police around here as much as anybody, this is the KKK capital...but nobody around here is shooting at the police either...We want as little police involvement as possible...
tikay0
02-04-2013, 08:24 PM
I don't see why you're jumping on dude....All he did was give some background just like you did....I'm glad he's calling that racist dude out....I agree with you though, I'm in the city, Naptown to be exact and we hate the police around here as much as anybody, this is the KKK capital...but nobody around here is shooting at the police either...We want as little police involvement as possible...
I just don't like guys acting hard online. Like dude, we're on an NBA message Board, how hard are we? LOL. I aint no punk, but I'm not a street dude either.
But yeah, I feel you. It's rough in Indiana too.
To the poster I responded to. I'm not trying to start beef. Lets keep it civil.
I just don't like guys acting hard online. Like dude, we're on an NBA message Board, how hard are we? LOL. I aint no punk, but I'm not a street dude either.
But yeah, I feel you. It's rough in Indiana too.
To the poster I responded to. I'm not trying to start beef. Lets keep it civil.
Yeah, I feel you...We f*ck with Chicago. I got people in Chi-town...
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 08:32 PM
You just embarrassed yourself with this post. No real street dude is shooting at the cops. Especially no brothas.
Stop with the city act. You post online, "you aint bout that life" my dude.
My kin folk stay in Pulaski/Ferdinad area. Majority of them GD/Folk nation. I am in no way affiliated at all. I stay in LA (little Africa) In Darien, where most of those Cabrini Green monkeys migrated to.
To even act hard online is down right laughable, when there are real G's out hustling, and bangin fa real.
"You aint bout that life" cuz.
Edit: Check my cousin out in Fredo's new music video with YaYa White.
Murdawood ain up to no gud!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIaOVRKCkAI
Again, I don't CONDONE shooting at police but you are very wrong. When I left for college some 19 year old kid shot up a police car from his building. The point I was trying to make is that every gangbanger is not afraid of the police. You take that any way you want, but again, you are wrong, there are many instances where police have been shot and killed by Chicago gangs. The police were or still are afraid to go in some areas during New Year's for instance because the gangs outnumber and out gun the police. They just shut off areas of Cabrini Greens when I was young because the gang had terrorized the whole neighborhood.
This is nothing that I'm proud of, but it is what it is.
I have never said I was "about that life."
I have said I am a father and veteran and a student.
But make no mistakes, I am military trained (649th Munitions Troop) and proficient with a 9mm and have sniper certification on the M-16.
Notice how you and the other guy call blacks Monkeys...this is the exact thing that gets me talking like that...because I know damn well you two clowns wouldn't say it in Chicago around blacks, yet you say it here, smh....which is why I said he wouldn't say that if I brought goons from Roseland to his door. I wouldn't dream of doing anything that immature, but cats like you guys put me in that mind.
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 08:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm6RmToESAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vcYhdAs7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXzDx4JqjLk
A quick search renders PROOF that tikay0 doesn't know what he speaks of. I found these links in seconds, I bet I could find doozens more if I searched the Chicago Sun-Times/Trib.
Nice try though pal.
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 08:42 PM
I don't see why you're jumping on dude....All he did was give some background just like you did....I'm glad he's calling that racist dude out....I agree with you though, I'm in the city, Naptown to be exact and we hate the police around here as much as anybody, this is the KKK capital...but nobody around here is shooting at the police either...We want as little police involvement as possible...
Of course it is a rare happening but it does happen. I was trying to accentuate the point that some cats could care less if a police car rode by when they are doing dirt, they think after they act (a bad trait but hey).
Of course it is a rare happening but it does happen. I was trying to accentuate the point that some cats could care less if a police car rode by when they are doing dirt, they think after they act (a bad trait but hey).
Well, I agree with this then...
tikay0
02-04-2013, 08:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIaOVRKCkAI
Again, I don't CONDONE shooting at police but you are very wrong. When I left for college some 19 year old kid shot up a police car from his building. The point I was trying to make is that every gangbanger is not afraid of the police. You take that any way you want, but again, you are wrong, there are many instances where police have been shot and killed by Chicago gangs. The police were or still are afraid to go in some areas during New Year's for instance because the gangs outnumber and out gun the police. They just shut off areas of Cabrini Greens when I was young because the gang had terrorized the whole neighborhood.
This is nothing that I'm proud of, but it is what it is.
I have never said I was "about that life."
I have said I am a father and veteran and a student.
But make no mistakes, I am military trained (649th Munitions Troop) and proficient with a 9mm and have sniper certification on the M-16.
Notice how you and the other guy call blacks Monkeys...this is the exact thing that gets me talking like that...because I know damn well you two clowns wouldn't say it in Chicago around blacks, yet you say it here, smh....which is why I said he wouldn't say that if I brought goons from Roseland to his door. I wouldn't dream of doing anything that immature, but cats like you guys put me in that mind.
Okay E-thuggin. I just said a majority of family is GD/Folk. How am I not black? You obviously don't know your own city.
I wouldn't say that around black people? I call my cousins all types of shit.
Just stop with the tough talk buddy. :facepalm
I am also a father of 2 girls. I'm not on an Internet message board, trying to act hard.
It's see through.
There are people that shoot at cops, but they're called mentally challenged. Dudes out hustling, don't have time for all that. They got money on their mind.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 08:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm6RmToESAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vcYhdAs7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXzDx4JqjLk
A quick search renders PROOF that tikay0 doesn't know what he speaks of. I found these links in seconds, I bet I could find doozens more if I searched the Chicago Sun-Times/Trib.
Nice try though pal.
Mr. E thug did a quick search on Youtube (nerd voice). OG go hard bruh. :facepalm
tikay0
02-04-2013, 08:57 PM
I'm going back to the Bulls game. Stop actin triflin GO GETTER.
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 08:59 PM
Okay E-thuggin. I just said a majority of family is GD/Folk. How am I not black? You obviously don't know your own city.
I wouldn't say that around black people? I call my cousins all types of shit.
Just stop with the tough talk buddy. :facepalm
I am also a father of 2 girls. I'm not on an Internet message board, trying to act hard.
It's see through.
There are people that shoot at cops, but they're called mentally challenged. Dudes out hustling, don't have time for all that. They got money on their mind.
I never stated your ethnicity and I certainly never threatened you or gave you reason to believe I am acting tough. You are projecting your own misconceptions onto me. Even if your family is GDs or whatever it still doesn't prove that you're black...it just proves you can type some bullshit.
You said that gangbangers would not shoot at police and I proved you wrong.
Take your L and move on to the next debate.
Again, calling me E thug or whatever you want is not making me angry or upset, I have said many times over I am the only male in my family not in a gang. I stay in Salt Lake City, Utah. I coach boys baseball and play video games. I am earnig my masters in college....nothing about that screams goon or thug so if my words offend you and point you in that direction your compass is broken sir.
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 09:01 PM
I'm going back to the Bulls game. Stop actin triflin GO GETTER.
Don't be mad at being wrong man. It happens to the best of us.
You said: "You just embarrassed yourself with this post. No real street dude is shooting at the cops. Especially no brothas."
And I proved you WRONG.
I didn't say that I'd do it, I never said that I condone it, in fact, I am against it....so miss me with the thug talk. I was just setting you straight.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 09:05 PM
I never stated your ethnicity and I certainly never threatened you or gave you reason to believe I am acting tough. You are projecting your own misconceptions onto me. Even if your family is GDs or whatever it still doesn't prove that you're black...it just proves you can type some bullshit.
You said that gangbangers would not shoot at police and I proved you wrong.
Take your L and move on to the next debate.
Again, calling me E thug or whatever you want is not making me angry or upset, I have said many times over I am the only male in my family not in a gang. I stay in Salt Lake City, Utah. I coach boys baseball and play video games. I am earnig my masters in college....nothing about that screams goon or thug so if my words offend you and point you in that direction your compass is broken sir.
Your upset enough to type a 2 paragraph response. You a damn fool.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 09:06 PM
Don't be mad at being wrong man. It happens to the best of us.
You said: "You just embarrassed yourself with this post. No real street dude is shooting at the cops. Especially no brothas."
And I proved you WRONG.
I didn't say that I'd do it, I never said that I condone it, in fact, I am against it....so miss me with the thug talk. I was just setting you straight.
Just like you said. Anyone can type anything. Usually when someone talks about bringing their goons to someone's doorstep, ONLINE, mind you. They fake as fukk. :facepalm
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 09:06 PM
I just don't like guys acting hard online. Like dude, we're on an NBA message Board, how hard are we? LOL. I aint no punk, but I'm not a street dude either.
But yeah, I feel you. It's rough in Indiana too.
To the poster I responded to. I'm not trying to start beef. Lets keep it civil.
Typical racist diatribe. Call blacks monkeys then backslide and say you're not trying to start beef.
:rolleyes:
tikay0
02-04-2013, 09:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Pe7s15ZA8
Go to :13 and :40 seconds. My cuzzo Lil Jon. He'd shoot you in the forehead for me.
Dude rappin, YaYa White my man too. Went to the casino with his ass a couples week ago.
Typical racist diatribe. Call blacks monkeys then backslide and say you're not trying to start beef.
:rolleyes:
To be fair, its all in how you interpret it...I don't make a habit of calling my own people monkey's but I have before because sometimes it means that they are just silly and haven't learned to evolve beyond their circumstances or in other words, see the big picture...Not in the racist sense but sometimes we need to hold our own to higher standards..and I don't mean in the legal sense really as I don't trust the government, but more as in being smart and using common sense....
tikay0
02-04-2013, 09:15 PM
To be fair, its all in how you interpret it...I don't make a habit of calling my own people monkey's but I have before because sometimes it means that they are just silly and haven't learned to evolve beyond their circumstances or in other words, see the big picture...Not in the racist sense but sometimes we need to hold our own to higher standards..and I don't mean in the legal sense really as I don't trust the government, but more as in being smart and using common sense....
Thank you. This dude sound all types of fake to me. Gettin mad at "monkey" n shit, like he never heard that shit before.
Probably some little white boy acting black. "THATS RACIST!"
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 09:18 PM
To be fair, its all in how you interpret it...I don't make a habit of calling my own people monkey's but I have before because sometimes it means that they are just silly and haven't learned to evolve beyond their circumstances or in other words, see the big picture...Not in the racist sense but sometimes we need to hold our own to higher standards..and I don't mean in the legal sense really as I don't trust the government, but more as in being smart and using common sense....
If you let white folks call you a monkey then we can just end this right here bro. You actually think it was in good hearted fun the way he used it? You can't call someone out of their name and refer to people like that and then say "oh I'm not trying to beef." He stereotyped blacks and called them monkeys. There is no room for interpretation. It was disrespectful.
Throughout all of this I haven't used any racial terms for whites or any other race out of respect. Imagine if I went around here calling people racial slurs with impunity. Do you think ISH posters would offer me a modicum of understanding? Should they?
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 09:19 PM
Thank you. This dude sound all types of fake to me. Gettin mad at "monkey" n shit, like he never heard that shit before.
Probably some little white boy acting black. "THATS RACIST!"
I have posted my pic (from my HS b ball team) and a reputable poster (GOBB) can vouch for me homeboy.
Again, nice try.
If you let white folks call you a monkey then we can just end this right here bro. You actually think it was in good hearted fun the way he used it?
Throughout all of this I haven't used any racial terms for whites or any other race out of respect. Imagine if I went around here calling people racial slurs with impunity. Do you think ISH posters would offer me a modicum of understanding? Should they?
No, I wouldn't let a white dude call me a monkey, but I don't think dude is white...
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 09:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Pe7s15ZA8
Go to :13 and :40 seconds. My cuzzo Lil Jon. He'd shoot you in the forehead for me.
Dude rappin, YaYa White my man too. Went to the casino with his ass a couples week ago.
Good job?
I'm e-thuggin but you're talking about your cousin shooting me in the forehead.
:biggums:
Go Getter
02-04-2013, 09:24 PM
No, I wouldn't let a white dude call me a monkey, but I don't think dude is white...
You can't tell behind a computer screen but if dude is black he is a suckassnegro.
When blacks from the Chi do it they say "monkey-ass"
When people not from where we are from say it they say "Cabrini green monkeys" for example.
You can't tell me otherwise dog I know my city.
These guys is posin'
tikay0
02-04-2013, 09:26 PM
You can't tell behind a computer screen.
When blacks from the Chi do it they say "monkey-ass"
When people not from where we are from say it they say "Cabrini green monkeys"
You can't tell me otherwise dog I know my city.
These guys is posin'
Where I live it's hard working black people, and poor white people. When the Cabrini Green monkey slid through, it was all types of ghetto shit happening.
Ex. Someone got shot a couple weeks back. Now we have blue lights posted up.
That's why I call them monkeys.
:cry:
Edit: Also, you're wrong. It's not monkey ass. It's "monk ass nukka". Monkey ass? :facepalm
tikay0
02-04-2013, 09:29 PM
Good job?
I'm e-thuggin but you're talking about your cousin shooting me in the forehead.
:biggums:
Just saying, my whole family is a bunch of goons, drug addicts, triflin people. They're still family, and he WOULD shoot you in the forehead.
Stay thirsty my friend.
mentallooser
02-04-2013, 09:34 PM
Anyway, Is it me or does it seem like George is either not put into the flow of the offense, or does he simply not take enough shots? Or is he wise in just letting West be a beast when he's feeling it?
Anyway, Is it me or does it seem like George is either not put into the flow of the offense, or does he simply not take enough shots? Or is he wise in just letting West be a beast when he's feeling it?
He always plays like this...He just lets the game come to him...thats why I dont understand when people say his game will be affected when Granger returns...It won't...He's not an alpha dog personality like Kobe or somebody.
mentallooser
02-04-2013, 09:38 PM
He always plays like this...He just lets the game come to him...thats why I dont understand when people say his game will be affected when Granger returns...It won't...He's not an alpha dog personality like Kobe or somebody.
Gotta say it is frustrating to watch. Because he has the skills to take over a game, but he just watching unless it comes to him.
Cali Syndicate
02-04-2013, 09:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Pe7s15ZA8
Go to :13 and :40 seconds. My cuzzo Lil Jon. He'd shoot you in the forehead for me.
Dude rappin, YaYa White my man too. Went to the casino with his ass a couples week ago.
Your cousin would kill a man for you over internet beef?
nathanjizzle
02-04-2013, 10:01 PM
Lmao!
I talk to YOU like that because you say foolish stuff like this. Calling blacks monkeys is cowardly and boarderline racist. You get on ISH making backhanded comments about blacks and then act like black people are all bad or all ignorant yet you claim o be a fan of the Bulls, a team with many black players.
My mother moved to the suburbs as well. But my family is still in the City. Most of them because they want to be, some because they can't afford to live elsewhere.
I wouldn't dare go into any suburbs thinking that I run shit, but if the suburb had a lame like you that acts tough on the net calling blacks monkeys, I would LOVE to visit with the guys from Roseland and make you eat your words.
Everyone has the capacity to change for the better, including lame bigoted idiots like you. I'm sorry that being afraid to speak your mind and be a man has failed you in real life resulting in you using these mud slinging tactics on the web. Maybe when your nuts drop you'll be less intimidated by blacks or whatever your issue is.
first off i called you a dumb monkey because obviously you are one, i dont call all blacks dumb monkeys, your only a dumb monkey if you act like once such as yourself. 2nd i only talk shit about your neighborhood because you talked shit about mine. you do think your tough because you stated your self you would "come to the suburb" with your brothers and woop my ass. sorry i would never get faded by a ****** that would need his brothers to come with him to a fight. No, not everyone has the capacity to do so, check the drunks that have nothing to do all day cept stand by the liqour store and throw trash in the parking lot, i would know i worked in englewood for 3 years.
and by the way, how is your logic serving you as we speak? loul deng vs paul george, guess i was right, you have a poor basketball opinion
-sosa
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:20 PM
Your cousin would kill a man for you over internet beef?
I was being sarcastic. I'm just trying to show him that he's not the only one that knows some "goons".
Which I highly doubt he does. Dude is fakin it.
He just got mad that I posted a pic, and he felt like I was teaming up on him with Nathanjizzle. I posted that, because he comes off as a fake ass E-thug. At first it was just jokes, then he got all butt hurt, and decided to go off on his little fantasy world rant.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:21 PM
first off i called you a dumb monkey because obviously you are one, i dont call all blacks dumb monkeys, your only a dumb monkey if you act like once such as yourself. 2nd i only talk shit about your neighborhood because you talked shit about mine. you do think your tough because you stated your self you would "come to the suburb" with your brothers and woop my ass. sorry i would never get faded by a ****** that would need his brothers to come with him to a fight. No, not everyone has the capacity to do so, check the drunks that have nothing to do all day cept stand by the liqour store and throw trash in the parking lot, i would know i worked in englewood for 3 years.
and by the way, how is your logic serving you as we speak? loul deng vs paul george, guess i was right, you have a poor basketball opinion
-sosa
Sosa baby. bang bang.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bKfj_9fKbcM/T7P4lumOa8I/AAAAAAAAASY/wVre2jCvprI/s1600/TreatedJgrnt_Promo_640.jpg
Graviton
02-04-2013, 10:33 PM
Tonight in their matchup...
Paul George - 21 points on 42% shooting, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, 2 block, 2 personal fouls.
LOL Deng - 13 points on 4-18 shooting, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 5 personal fouls.
This should end the discussion, Deng is one of the most overrated and underperforming players in the league, can't shoot, create his own shot, dribble. Gets payed like a superstar (close to 14 million) just to be a role player, play his overrated defense and brick everything from outside the paint.
George is payed 2.5 million, he completely destroyed Deng on both ends of the floor tonight and wasn't a foul machine while playing defense.
But obviously Deng stans will keep defending him while he keeps having performances like this every other game. It's just sad how overhyped a barely Top 15 SF can be nowadays. Bulls gotta trade him before he costs them in the playoffs for a 3rd straight time.
fsvr54
02-04-2013, 10:35 PM
ROFL at the Chicago tough guys.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:36 PM
Tonight in their matchup...
Paul George - 21 points on 42% shooting, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, 2 block, 2 personal fouls.
LOL Deng - 13 points on 4-18 shooting, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 5 personal fouls.
This should end the discussion, Deng is one of the most overrated and underperforming players in the league, can't shoot, create his own shot, dribble. Gets payed like a superstar (close to 14 million) just to be a role player, play his overrated defense and brick everything from outside the paint.
George is payed 2.5 million, he completely destroyed Deng on both ends of the floor tonight and wasn't a foul machine while playing defense.
But obviously Deng stans will keep defending him while he keeps having performances like this every other game. It's just sad how overhyped a barely Top 15 SF can be nowadays. Bulls gotta trade him before he costs them in the playoffs for a 3rd straight time.
I voted that George was the better player, but to be fair. The Bulls are missing 3/5th of their starters. Not to mention Boozer is just coming back from the hamstring injury.
George had the luxury of West, Hill, Hibbert drawing attention from him.
But overall, I'd still take George.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:37 PM
ROFL at the Chicago tough guys.
It's only GO GETTER. We're only responding to his fake ass.
Graviton
02-04-2013, 10:41 PM
I voted that George was the better player, but to be fair. The Bulls are missing 3/5th of their starters. Not to mention Boozer is just coming back from the hamstring injury.
George had the luxury of West, Hill, Hibbert drawing attention from him.
But overall, I'd still take George.
Except nobody is pressuring Deng, he has no offensive game to be taken seriously. If he is so bad at doing things by himselfs, why da **** is he getting 14 million? That's freaking superstar money, a SF getting that and being so underwhelming is horrible.
Bulls FO just ****ed up, they are giving close to 30 million just for Boozer's/Deng's vanishing acts and inconsistency, that's killing cap space. They HAVE to trade Deng while his value is high, there are NUMEROUS SFs better than him that will fit even more under Thibs and Rose.
Chicago Brawls
02-04-2013, 10:43 PM
In the evaluation of Deng's recent play you can't simply disregard the number of minutes he's been logging lately in a depleted frontcourt.
He's a great player though.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:46 PM
Except nobody is pressuring Deng, he has no offensive game to be taken seriously. If he is so bad at doing things by himselfs, why da **** is he getting 14 million? That's freaking superstar money, a SF getting that and being so underwhelming is horrible.
Bulls FO just ****ed up, they are giving close to 30 million just for Boozer's/Deng's vanishing acts and inconsistency, that's killing cap space. They HAVE to trade Deng while his value is high, there are NUMEROUS SFs better than him that will fit even more under Thibs and Rose.
Care to tell me how we can get a better SF? If he's so bad, how the hell are we supposed to get this gem? You don't seem to understand how damn hard it will be to get an upgrade from Deng.
Edit: I was in the Rudy Gay camp for a minute. Then a fellow Bulls fans schooled me on his advanced stats, and they're damn near identical, except Deng plays better defense.
In the evaluation of Deng's recent play you can't simply disregard the number of minutes he's been logging lately in a depleted frontcourt.
He's a great player though.
I agree, I like Deng...He's playing a ton of minutes and he doesn't have anyone other than Boozer to take the pressure off of him.
Also, its not his fault Rose got injured and he had to take on a different role..I feel he is doing the best he can...
Graviton
02-04-2013, 10:49 PM
In the evaluation of Deng's recent play you can't simply disregard the number of minutes he's been logging lately in a depleted frontcourt.
He's a great player though.
Yea, he is a great player, just massively overrated for his contract.
And btw if he WASN'T logging so many minutes, his stats would be even more underwhelming and he would never make the all-star team.
You can have a lot better SF for that price that can actually take pressure off Rose offensively and play just as good defense.
Just off top of my head you got Batum, Parsons, AK-47, Leonard, Gallo, Iggy, Gay, Granger, George.
Then when you add the superstar SFs Deng barely cracks the Top 15, yet he is payed like a superstar and selected to the all-star team. :oldlol:
Cmon man, if you put your feelings aside, you will realize Deng is not gonna help you vs elite teams in the playoffs. He already disappeared two straight years, he shrinks when it matters most just like Boozer, and no one respects him offensively. Teams will just double-triple Rose and force Deng to make them pay, but he will just keep bricking wide open shots like usual.
Graviton
02-04-2013, 10:52 PM
Care to tell me how we can get a better SF? If he's so bad, how the hell are we supposed to get this gem? You don't seem to understand how damn hard it will be to get an upgrade from Deng.
Edit: I was in the Rudy Gay camp for a minute. Then a fellow Bulls fans schooled me on his advanced stats, and they're damn near identical, except Deng plays better defense.
That's Gay in crappy Memphis offense that uses 4 different guys randomly, watch Gay's production with Raptors and their younger, more athletic players. With Rose, Butler, Gibson, Noah, Gay will be much better. And he has the athletic tools to be better defensively under Thibs.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:52 PM
Yea, he is a great player, just massively overrated for his contract.
And btw if he WASN'T logging so many minutes, his stats would be even more underwhelming and he would never make the all-star team.
You can have a lot better SF for that price that can actually take pressure off Rose offensively and play just as good defense.
Just off top of my head you got Batum, Parsons, AK-47, Leonard, Gallo, Iggy, Gay, Granger, George.
Then when you add the superstar SFs Deng barely cracks the Top 15, yet he is payed like a superstar and selected to the all-star team. :oldlol:
Cmon man, if you put your feelings aside, you will realize Deng is not gonna help you vs elite teams in the playoffs. He already disappeared two straight years, he shrinks when it matters most just like Boozer, and no one respects him offensively. Teams will just double-triple Rose and force Deng to make them pay, but he will just keep bricking wide open shots like usual.
Again. Explain to me how we can get Gay, Iggy, George, Batum??? I left off whoever isn't better than Deng.
Granger is straight up not better than Deng. He's a worse Rudy Gay.
Don't you think every Bulls fan would want an upgrade over Deng? Just like any fan would want an upgrade over therer 2nd or 3rd best player. Problem is, it's not easy.
tikay0
02-04-2013, 10:53 PM
That's Gay in crappy Memphis offense that uses 4 different guys randomly, watch Gay's production with Raptors and their younger, more athletic players. With Rose, Butler, Gibson, Noah, Gay will be much better. And he has the athletic tools to be better defensively under Thibs.
In Memphis, he does what he always does. Iso ball, with 2 7 footers taking a lot of attention off of him. Wait til they get about 6-7 games deep, and tell me how great his stats look in Toronto.
Graviton
02-04-2013, 10:54 PM
I agree, I like Deng...He's playing a ton of minutes and he doesn't have anyone other than Boozer to take the pressure off of him.
Also, its not his fault Rose got injured and he had to take on a different role..I feel he is doing the best he can...
He is getting max money to be a role player, THAT'S THE POINT.
If he is "doing best he can" by shooting 30% from outside the paint, providing mediocre production for the minutes played while getting superstar money, then wtf is the point? We can get other players that can provide more than "doing his best". If his role doesn't include actually scoring when his team needs it most, wtf is he there for? His "defense" that won't actually stop any star or change the dynamic of the game?
He is getting max money to be a role player, THAT'S THE POINT.
If he is "doing best he can" by shooting 30% from outside the paint, providing mediocre production for the minutes played while getting superstar money, then wtf is the point? We can get other players that can provide more than "doing his best". If his role doesn't include actually scoring when his team needs it most, wtf is he there for? His "defense" that won't actually stop any star or change the dynamic of the game?
No, I understand all of this...I don't understand why you seem to hate "him" so much. You show a lot of anger in your posts towards him...I could see if he was a bad teammate or a lazy player or something. Im just saying, I agree with your assessment but without all the anger...If you're not angry, then my bad...
Graviton
02-04-2013, 11:08 PM
No, I understand all of this...I don't understand why you seem to hate "him" so much. You show a lot of anger in your posts towards him...I could see if he was a bad teammate or a lazy player or something. Im just saying, I agree with your assessment but without all the anger...If you're not angry, then my bad...
I am just pissed lot of Bulls fans ignore his bad games (which is every 2nd/3rd game) and act like he is some unreplacable part of the team that can't be traded. Dude disappears often and puts up mediocre production, problem is he gets superstar money.
It's like what I used to hear about Perkins, "He is a great defender! Good locker room guy!" But at least OKC fans realized he is an overrated black hole. Deng isn't as bad, but his contract to production ratio is still pretty bad. And his defense is pretty much useless against stars in the playoffs, he doesn't know how to bother them or be physical. He lets them get in a rhythm.
I am just pissed lot of Bulls fans ignore his bad games (which is every 2nd/3rd game) and act like he is some unreplacable part of the team that can't be traded. Dude disappears often and puts up mediocre production, problem is he gets superstar money.
It's like what I used to hear about Perkins, "He is a great defender! Good locker room guy!" But at least OKC fans realized he is an overrated black hole. Deng isn't as bad, but his contract to production ratio is still pretty bad. And his defense is pretty much useless against stars in the playoffs, he doesn't know how to bother them or be physical. He lets them get in a rhythm.
Yeah, I can see how that can be annoying...
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 11:03 AM
first off i called you a dumb monkey because obviously you are one, i dont call all blacks dumb monkeys, your only a dumb monkey if you act like once such as yourself. 2nd i only talk shit about your neighborhood because you talked shit about mine. you do think your tough because you stated your self you would "come to the suburb" with your brothers and woop my ass. sorry i would never get faded by a ****** that would need his brothers to come with him to a fight. No, not everyone has the capacity to do so, check the drunks that have nothing to do all day cept stand by the liqour store and throw trash in the parking lot, i would know i worked in englewood for 3 years.
and by the way, how is your logic serving you as we speak? loul deng vs paul george, guess i was right, you have a poor basketball opinion
-sosa
You said, "Cabrini Green monkeys."
Don't back pedal.
Either way my point still stands. Youre a suburban punk who calls blacks monkeys behind your screen but would bitch up in front of real brothers from the greens or Englewood. When you worked there I bet you were quiet as a church mouse.
Then you sign your name Sosa?
You gotta be the lamest.:facepalm
*you point to ONE GAME while Deng has a career of work. Trading him after you've invested so much in him and after he has played for us hurt would not sit well with Noah and Rose Is imagine. You have to think of chemistry and the team.....this ain't 2k.
nathanjizzle
02-05-2013, 11:07 AM
You said, "Cabrini Green monkeys."
Don't back pedal.
Either way my point still stands. Youre a suburban punk who calls blacks monkeys behind your screen but would bitch up in front of real brothers from the greens.
Then you sign your name Sosa?
You gotta be the lamest.:facepalm
10814 lorel st
oak lawn il 60453
here i mapped it for you as well. http://mapq.st/11Ggdgt
pls bring ur boys - sosa
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 11:10 AM
10814 lorel st
oak lawn il 60453
here i mapped it for you as well. http://mapq.st/11Ggdgt
pls bring ur boys - sosa
I'm in Utah fool. Can you read?
JerryWest
02-05-2013, 11:13 AM
if you guys need a hood rat homie, you can always call al thorton.
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 11:14 AM
*not that I'd even waste my time on you.
I'm a war vet from a munitions squadron son, for real, you don't have any idea about who you're ****ing with. You're lucky I love my kid and have some common sense.
Look I'm going to end this here. I hope you smarten up one day and give people of color respect and stop calling them monkeys. Or at least get the balls to stop being a coward and say it IRL as well as the net.
Good luck.
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 11:16 AM
if you guys need a hood rat homie, you can always call al thorton.
I always imagined him being a total contrast to his ISH character IRL, like a Mormon kid with blue eyes and blonde hair or something, lmao
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 11:18 AM
:biggums:
Why did this fool start signing "Sosa" at the end of his posts?
Unbearably lame is this guy.
JerryWest
02-05-2013, 11:23 AM
I always imagined him being a total contrast to his ISH character IRL, like a Mormon kid with blue eyes and blonde hair or something, lmao
A mormon kid would have better music taste than his :biggums:
nathanjizzle
02-05-2013, 11:24 AM
I'm in Utah fool. Can you read?
http://i49.tinypic.com/29dh11w.jpg
KOBE143
02-05-2013, 12:02 PM
MWP >>>> Paul Gearge and Loul Deng combined..
But I dont mind trading Metta for either one of them for opponent team improvement.. Lakers doesnt have much competition right now so trading our 5th best player for scrub is not a big deal if it can help other team to compete.. Both will benefit from Kobe System big time.. Even scrub can be an all star caliber while playing the system just like what happened to Earl Clark.. But I think our management are not stupid enough to make this deal.. What will Lakers gain from this trade? Adding another scrub just to make the game more competitive?? Maybe..:confusedshrug: Coz watching a competitive game is more exciting than with no competition.. Agree?
ralph_i_el
02-05-2013, 12:18 PM
10814 lorel st
oak lawn il 60453
here i mapped it for you as well. http://mapq.st/11Ggdgt
pls bring ur boys - sosa
I hope you like extra large anchovies and pineapple white pizzas :applause:
Thanks for hijacking my thread with all your ******y internet toughguy shit.
also lol @ every chicago kid calling themselves sosa. Sammy sosa can suck my balls
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 01:45 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/29dh11w.jpg
Your dumbass doesn't even know the difference between being from Utah and living in Utah. Smh.
Go Getter
02-05-2013, 01:47 PM
I hope you like extra large anchovies and pineapple white pizzas :applause:
Thanks for hijacking my thread with all your ******y internet toughguy shit.
also lol @ every chicago kid calling themselves sosa. Sammy sosa can suck my balls
:oldlol:
Don't plug every Chicago kid into the mold of these suburban phony guys that align themselves with whatever is popular--please.
tikay0
02-05-2013, 02:27 PM
:oldlol:
Don't plug every Chicago kid into the mold of these suburban phony guys that align themselves with whatever is popular--please.
Sosa baby, 3hunna
bang bang!
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