Chuck on Leno: "There's 4 legit title contenders!"

[trabash]

Charles Barkley yesterday on The Tonight Show:

"There's 4 legit title contenders! The Miami Heat, the Oklahoma City Thunder, San Antonio Spurs and the Memphis Grizzlies."

So he's including Grizzlies as legit contenders, but not the Clippers or Knicks. Discuss

[francesco totti]

disagree with it, especially memphis played just 22 road games.... i think denver will finish ahead of them.

[maybeshewill13]

I agree that there's 4.. but replace the Grizzlies with the Clippers.

[andremiller07]

I agree that there's 4.. but replace the Grizzlies with the Clippers.

Pretty much this, Grizzlies imo are a team thats most likely to physically wear you out during a long series so you would hope to avoid them. Losing Rudy was just a massive lose, I wonder if theres any way the Grizz could get Evan Turner for like Ed Davis and something else.

[COnDEMnED]

Altho its a death wish to be backed by Chuck, I dont disagree with his pickings. CP3 will take the clips to the second round tho (unless he gets reinjured).

[Burgz V2]

BREAKING NEWS: Charles Barkley says stupid shit on television!

[LikeABosh]

Chuck has a hard on for the Grizz

[Clutch]

Chuck has a hard on for the Grizz
Probably because they're the only franchise that didn't take a dump on him :lol

[Mr. Incredible]

Only 3: MIAMI, OKC, SA

[TheMarkMadsen]

NYK could easily get hot & win a title or atleast make the finals.

They have a similar build to the 11 Mavs which proved that a 3 point shooting team, with a defensive anchor holding down the middle combined with a superstar who's primarily a scorer could win a championship

[Mr. Incredible]

NYK could easily get hot & win a title or atleast make the finals.

They have a similar build to the 11 Mavs which proved that a 3 point shooting team, with a defensive anchor holding down the middle combined with a superstar who's primarily a scorer could win a championship
They shared the ball much more than this NY team IMO.

[niko]

If the Knicks won the title Barkely wouldn't call us contenders for the year we won it. I don't think including us is necessary but asking for Barkley to be anything even remotely logical featuring the Knicks isn't worth anyone's time.

[Money 23]

Heat, Thunder, Clippers, and maybe San Antonio (doubt it) and LONG SHOT New York Knicks.

[Mr. Incredible]

If the Knicks won the title Barkely wouldn't call us contenders for the year we won it. I don't think including us is necessary but asking for Barkley to be anything even remotely logical featuring the Knicks isn't worth anyone's time.
Yeah, I don't understand his hate for the Knicks.

[scm5]

I wonder why he left out the Clippers.

The Clips w/ CP3 are incredible, and as far as I know, Chuck doesn't hate the Clippers or anyone on that team.

[ChuckOakley]

I agree with him.. though I probably would have said 3 and left off Memphis.

However in his defense, Memphis has the type of game centered around 2 elite big men that can go far in the playoffs. The Clipps? Mehh....I don't think Griffin and Jordan are ready yet to take out SAS or OKC.

As for the Knicks.. if Rose doesn't come back that helps them, but Chicago still has their number and LBJ is just on a different level from the rest of the league and may open that gap even more in the playoffs... that is why Chuck only listed one team from the East.

[SilkkTheShocker]

NYK could easily get hot & win a title or atleast make the finals.

They have a similar build to the 11 Mavs which proved that a 3 point shooting team, with a defensive anchor holding down the middle combined with a superstar who's primarily a scorer could win a championship


sounds more like wishful thinking by a Kobe d.ick rider :oldlol: :oldlol:

[imdaman99]

good riddance this fat fck is gone soon. although i will miss his humor

[ballup]

Chuck is dumb. Only two teams can be in the Finals.:rolleyes:

[jimmy77x]

Enough of the contenders bullsh!t. Anyone who makes the playoffs is realistically a contender. Sure there are the elite teams that have very high chances in reaching the finals but anything can happen in a playoff series. If we go by this new logic that only miami and okc are contenders whats the point in the entire season, just have a finals in november since nobody else seems to have a chance.

[ChuckOakley]

Enough of the contenders bullsh!t. Anyone who makes the playoffs is realistically a contender. Sure there are the elite teams that have very high chances in reaching the finals but anything can happen in a playoff series. If we go by this new logic that only miami and okc are contenders whats the point in the entire season, just have a finals in november since nobody else seems to have a chance.
You play the games to bring in ratings and revenue, but yes Miami is a lock for the Finals. The West is a little more wide open.

And no.. not anything can happen in the playoffs.. in a 5 games series upset were more likely, but they got rid of those for a reason.

[Whoah10115]

I think he's remarkably wrong on the Clippers. They will stay the 3rd seed.


And his issues with them in the halfcourt...he should have issues with Miami in the halfcourt. The Heat have the best player, but the Clippers have a top 5 player, who excels at running these grind-out pick n' rolls. The Clippers will do very well in the half-court. It'd be more obvious if Del Negro was doing a better job. He's an issue and he needs to grow as the season progresses and the playoffs approach. But the Clippers are legit legit.

[jimmy77x]

You play the games to bring in ratings and revenue, but yes Miami is a lock for the Finals. The West is a little more wide open.

And no.. not anything can happen in the playoffs.. in a 5 games series upset were more likely, but they got rid of those for a reason.


Oh yeah right i forgot the 8th seeded warriors sent the first place mavericks packing in the first round a few years ago, i also dont remember the 8th seeded knicks being the first and only 8th seed to reach the finals where is my memory. Yeah and the 1 seeded spurs who were a " lock" for the finals didnt loose to 8th seed Memphis did they?

[imdaman99]

Oh yeah right i forgot the 8th seeded warriors sent the first place mavericks packing in the first round a few years ago, i also dont remember the 8th seeded knicks being the first and only 8th seed to reach the finals where is my memory. Yeah and the 1 seeded spurs who were a " lock" for the finals didnt loose to 8th seed Memphis did they?
everyone likes to pretend they are experts and never wrong. but predictions are called predictions because they dont know. so fck charles barkley and fck everyone else thats putting the heat in the finals already.

[ChuckOakley]

Oh yeah right i forgot the 8th seeded warriors sent the first place mavericks packing in the first round a few years ago, i also dont remember the 8th seeded knicks being the first and only 8th seed to reach the finals where is my memory. Yeah and the 1 seeded spurs who were a " lock" for the finals didnt loose to 8th seed Memphis did they?
The exceptions do not make the rule.

Meanwhile I'd make any bet you are willing to make (money, avatar) that the Heat are in the Finals.

[ChuckOakley]

Is this thread really just a collection of angry Knick fans that are upset that Barley didn't list them as one of 4 contenders? That's sad you guys care so much what he thinks. Let their results do the talking. But I'll still gladly make a wager with any Knick fan that they don't make the Finals.

[imdaman99]

Is this thread really just a collection of angry Knick fans that are upset that Barley didn't list them as one of 4 contenders? That's sad you guys care so much what he thinks. Let their results do the talking. But I'll still gladly make a wager with any Knick fan that they don't make the Finals.
is that you chuck? i didnt think you had it in you to post with perfect grammar. props though :applause:

[SpecialQue]

Charles Barkley yesterday on The Tonight Show:

"There's 4 legit title contenders! The Miami Heat, the Oklahoma City Thunder, San Antonio Spurs and the Memphis Grizzlies."

So he's including Grizzlies as legit contenders, but not the Clippers or Knicks. Discuss

I thought the Clippers were invincible in December, but I've seen a ton of their flaws exposed during the last month, especially with their weird reliance on Jamal. Plus Vinny is a horrible coach, so I'm guessing he'd find a way to fvck things up when games mattered.

I have no idea if the Knicks can make it to the finals this season. They have a ton of geezers on that team, so there's always a chance.

[Micku]

I think he's remarkably wrong on the Clippers. They will stay the 3rd seed.


And his issues with them in the halfcourt...he should have issues with Miami in the halfcourt. The Heat have the best player, but the Clippers have a top 5 player, who excels at running these grind-out pick n' rolls. The Clippers will do very well in the half-court. It'd be more obvious if Del Negro was doing a better job. He's an issue and he needs to grow as the season progresses and the playoffs approach. But the Clippers are legit legit.

He used to have issues with the Heat in the half court, but their issues don't matter that much since they have LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. Their talent overcome that and that's why they went to the finals twice in a row.

He also used to have issues with the Thunder half court, but then they beat the Spurs last year. The Clips and the Knicks would have to prove how good they are in the playoffs. But it's hard to see anyone beating Miami in the east.

I don't consider Memphis really contenders because I don't really see them beating the Thunder, Spurs, or the Clips at this time. They might not beat the Warriors either.

[Clutch]

Yeah, I don't understand his hate for the Knicks.
Watch the video and you'll get it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX5xmwQi0yc

[SpecialQue]

Watch the video and you'll get it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX5xmwQi0yc

GodDAMN that was cold!

[jimmy77x]

The exceptions do not make the rule.

Meanwhile I'd make any bet you are willing to make (money, avatar) that the Heat are in the Finals.

Didnt say the exceptions make the rule just saying anything can happen because its happend in the past. Its just hilarious that you are so sure the heat are a lock for the finals, how can someone be so confindent about something they have 0 control over :lol its people like you that go broke in vegas :lol Whats up with this new everybody must lay down for the heat just because they are the heat, attitude these days :facepalm

[All Net]

Before they traded Gay yeah..

[ChuckOakley]

Didnt say the exceptions make the rule just saying anything can happen because its happend in the past. Its just hilarious that you are so sure the heat are a lock for the finals, how can someone be so confindent about something they have 0 control over :lol its people like you that go broke in vegas :lol Whats up with this new everybody must lay down for the heat just because they are the heat, attitude these days :facepalm
Ask GOBB and CF86 how I'm doing with my bets so far.

And I'm not saying I know anything you aren't able to see for yourself. Like I said, make a wager with me if you think anyone but Miami (doesn't even have to be NY) is getting out of the East. LBJ will not let it happen.. unless something happens to him.

[DCL]

i'm doubting san antonio despite their current regular season dominance.

legs will be crucial in the playoffs, and those guys are just too old...

oklahoma will run them to death.

[jimmy77x]

Ask GOBB and CF86 how I'm doing with my bets so far.

And I'm not saying I know anything you aren't able to see for yourself. Like I said, make a wager with me if you think anyone but Miami (doesn't even have to be NY) is getting out of the East. LBJ will not let it happen.. unless something happens to him.

Im not making a bet on a phucking forum :lol and to the " LBJ will not let it happen" i wasn't aware lebron morphed into michael phuckin jordan over night, dude wins one ring and all of a sudden he's unbeatable. Whatever dude heat may or may not make it to the finals all im saying is anything can happen its not impossible as you make it seem to be. I can see you've never actually played any sports before because you have a 0 competitiveness attitude, Lets lay down for lebron because he's great, we dont have a chance :lol

[Kingwillball]

I agree that there's 4.. but replace the Grizzlies with the Clippers.


Agreed especially after losing Gay..

[Kingwillball]

I think he's remarkably wrong on the Clippers. They will stay the 3rd seed.


And his issues with them in the halfcourt...he should have issues with Miami in the halfcourt. The Heat have the best player, but the Clippers have a top 5 player, who excels at running these grind-out pick n' rolls. The Clippers will do very well in the half-court. It'd be more obvious if Del Negro was doing a better job. He's an issue and he needs to grow as the season progresses and the playoffs approach. But the Clippers are legit legit.


Why would he ? The HEat have become a very good Halfcourt team especially when Lebron gets in the post and a slew of 3 point shooters also they have already won a "Ship" so they have proven to do it. :confusedshrug:

[Whoah10115]

Why would he ? The HEat have become a very good Halfcourt team especially when Lebron gets in the post and a slew of 3 point shooters also they have already won a "Ship" so they have proven to do it. :confusedshrug:



The point is that they're comparable. Tho the Heat are the champs and they deserve that benefit of the doubt...however, it's super tough to repeat with the same problems.

[Clippersfan86]

Chuck has a hard on for the Grizz

Even when the Grizzlies have gotten exposed at times he has a massive bias towards them and AGAINST the Clippers and Knicks and I don't know why.

[Clippersfan86]

Ask GOBB and CF86 how I'm doing with my bets so far.

And I'm not saying I know anything you aren't able to see for yourself. Like I said, make a wager with me if you think anyone but Miami (doesn't even have to be NY) is getting out of the East. LBJ will not let it happen.. unless something happens to him.

Tough to say actually. At best the Nets who are struggling bad as of late may win 43 ish games which would only be 2 over what I capped them at. If Deron is out longer it may be 41 or less.

[ChuckOakley]

Tough to say actually. At best the Nets who are struggling bad as of late may win 43 ish games which would only be 2 over what I capped them at. If Deron is out longer it may be 41 or less.
At best they may win 43 games?
They are on pace for 47 and may pull something off at the trade deadline.
Meanwhile D.Will being out will help us short term and long term

If you're feeling good about the bet, want to double(ish) it...from an avatar for the playoffs, to an avatar all summer?

[Clippersfan86]

At best they may win 43 games?
They are on pace for 47 and may pull something off at the trade deadline.
Meanwhile D.Will being out will help us short term and long term

If you're feeling good about the bet, want to double(ish) it...from an avatar for the playoffs, to an avatar all summer?

What's the point of doubling it when the original bet is adequate? Nets have been a disappointment, are struggling bad lately and I still have a solid shot at winning.

[IGotACoolStory]

Meh, I can't see the Knicks wining it unless they are unconscious from 3 all playoffs. And if I think that, then I might as well put the Warriors and Nuggets in title contention too.

So no.


I agree with the guy who said replace Grizz with Clippers.

[ChuckOakley]

What's the point of doubling it when the original bet is adequate? Nets have been a disappointment, are struggling bad lately and I still have a solid shot at winning.
A disappointment to whom?

You said they would be a .500 team ("40 realistic, 42 max"), yet they are on pace for 48 wins. I said 45-50 wins and most "experts" had them around 45 wins and 5th in the East. I'd say they are playing right around what was expected.

It's year 1 in Brooklyn.. took the Knicks 2 years to get their stuff together.

Meanwhile despite D.Will playing as poorly as he has, JJ being as unimpressive as he has, G.Wallace playing no where near his contract and our PF position the weakest in the league, we're still a home court team in the East with wins over OKC, Clippers, Indy twice, NY twice, Boston twice and only 2 losses to sub .500 teams all season.


I don't get why you feel the need to be so stubborn. Would it really kill you to admit the Nets are better than you thought they would be? Man up, you'll look like the bigger man now than when you'll be whining about the avatar I give you. I'd even take it easier on your avatar and respect you more.

People need to listen to me... told you all the Sixers were overrated and we could expect Bynum to miss time, said BK was a 45-50 win team (and would finish behind NY) and I also predicted the Clippers as the 3rd best team in the West.

[Michael_Wilbon]

Is this thread really just a collection of angry Knick fans that are upset that Barley didn't list them as one of 4 contenders? That's sad you guys care so much what he thinks. Let their results do the talking. But I'll still gladly make a wager with any Knick fan that they don't make the Finals.

When you made this post only 2 Knicks fans had bitched about Barkley not including them. Niko didn't give a shit about it so he's not included. The 3rd person who commented on it was a Lakers fan so stop being a f@ggot and deal with the fact that your shitty Nets squad will always be second fiddle to the Knicks.

In reference to the context of the OP the Grizzlies should be taken out of the top four and the Bulls and/or Pacers should be added, however I don't think Miami will lose in the EC playoffs.

[tontoz]

I remember a couple of years ago that Chuck called several playoff series correctly that the experts got wrong, including Memphis beating the Spurs.

[ncrizzle]

Memphis's grind it out, slow it down in the half court, pound it inside style is suited well for the playoffs. With that said the clippers are a better team right now and should be in the
discussion before the grizz

[ChuckOakley]

Memphis's grind it out, slow it down in the half court, pound it inside style is suited well for the playoffs. With that said the clippers are a better team right now and should be in the
discussion before the grizz
Have faith.. you guys only have 1 less loss than the Clippers and I do think Prince will be more help in the playoffs with his experience. Your defense, half court game and pound it inside style will be very hard for most teams to match up with in the playoffs. I also think the Grizz have a chip on their shoulder which could help.

[Dbrog]

He must've forgotten that the Griz traded Gay :lol