Lebron is on Jordan's level now

[Derivative]

The way Lebron plays the game, he's officially on Jordan's level now. He seems to be just toying with his competition, effortlessly destroying his competition.

The first quarter shows how good Lebron is compared to Durant.

[Hotlantadude81]

The way Lebron plays the game, he's officially on Jordan's level now. He seems to be just toying with his competition, effortlessly destroying his competition.

The first quarter shows how good Lebron is compared to Durant.

I think the comparisons are old. I honestly care very little about who would win a one on one match and all of that.

[notatop29pg]

I haven't seen enough of LeBron to judge. But something I do notice is that he'll be 13/17 for 34pts in a win and 13/17 for 34pts in a 15pt loss. A guy with his all universe talent should at least go down shooting in my opinion.

[Jolokia]

Agreed. He just needs the championships now. At least 5 more...ouch.

[gengiskhan]

The way Lebron plays the game, he's officially on Jordan's level now. He seems to be just toying with his competition, effortlessly destroying his competition.

The first quarter shows how good Lebron is compared to Durant.

Not even close.

He is not even at Birds level btw. let alone MJ.

MJ's level is 32.5 / 8 / 8.

Larry Bird's level is 30 ppg 10+rpg double double.

LBJ is definitely playing unbelievable but 27 ppg isnt exactly 30 ppg or 32.5 ppg.

MJ > Bird > LBJ

[lpublic_enemyl]

lebron has a ways to go b4 he hits the goat convo, but right now, best player in the league by a mile and for years :bowdown:

[gengiskhan]

lebron has a ways to go b4 he hits the goat convo, but right now, best player in the league by a mile and for years :bowdown:

That is agreed without a doubt.

But He is NO prime peak Bird.

He is NO prime peak MJ.

Just look at the stats of Bird & MJ at their physical peak. Both had better than LBJ stats.

[Haymaker]

Took him what? 10 seasons to play near MJ's level? :applause:

MJ was dominating since his early years.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Not even close.

He is not even at Birds level btw. let alone MJ.

MJ's level is 32.5 / 8 / 8.

Larry Bird's level is 30 ppg 10+rpg double double.

LBJ is definitely playing unbelievable but 27 ppg isnt exactly 30 ppg or 32.5 ppg.

MJ > Bird > LBJ
Ok buddy. Now turn on your tv and go watch the game. You know, the hate goes old sometimes. Just let it go and watch top3 player all time playing the best bball in his life. You are missing history, thats what you are doing, and 3-4 more haters on this forum. And thats sad. If you couldnt watch Wilt and Russell, heck even Jordan and Bird, than take the opportunity to watch Lebron and stop hating already.

[Bandito]

Not even close.

He is not even at Birds level btw. let alone MJ.

MJ's level is 32.5 / 8 / 8.

Larry Bird's level is 30 ppg 10+rpg double double.

LBJ is definitely playing unbelievable but 27 ppg isnt exactly 30 ppg or 32.5 ppg.

MJ > Bird > LBJ
I concur with this post.

[Bandito]

lebron has a ways to go b4 he hits the goat convo, but right now, best player in the league by a mile and for years :bowdown:
I agree with that.

[shaq2000]

If he were, it'd be leading to rings and FMVPs. Plural. Let's see.

With the squad he has around him right now, there's no excuses.

[2010splash]

Not even close.

He is not even at Birds level btw. let alone MJ.

MJ's level is 32.5 / 8 / 8.

Larry Bird's level is 30 ppg 10+rpg double double.

LBJ is definitely playing unbelievable but 27 ppg isnt exactly 30 ppg or 32.5 ppg.

MJ > Bird > LBJ
:roll:

Bird isn't worthy of lacing up LeBron's sneakers. Enough with this overrating of past players. Only one of them was as good as/better than LeBron, and that would be Jordan.

LeBron crushes Bird easily. He is the second greatest player to ever play the game.

[teddytwelvetoes]

Bron is beasting but he's older/been in the league longer than Durant

[PP34Deuce]

He is scary. Consistently dominating more now. He has the occasional choke in the 4th, but they are fewer now.

I do think if OKC finishes with a better record than MIA Durant should win it based off team wins and stats.

[gengiskhan]

:roll:

Bird isn't worthy of lacing up LeBron's sneakers. Enough with this overrating of past players. Only one of them was as good as/better than LeBron, and that would be Jordan.

LeBron crushes Bird easily. He is the second greatest player to ever play the game.

damb faaaak.

Bird has 5-6 seasons of 25+ ppg double double.
Bird as 3 seasons of almost 28-30 ppg double double.

Bird is still the best SF to ever play the game.

LBJ is all time great but he aint beating Bird at anything yet.

Just check LBJ stats & Bird Stats. you'll know.

we'll talk LBJ vs Bird when LBJ actually wins 3+ rings.

GOAT SF talk is still premature. Bird is by far the greatest.

[bdreason]

Agreed. He just needs the championships now. At least 5 more...ouch.


And 5 more Finals MVP's, and 2 more MVP's, a DPOY award, and 9 more Scoring titles, and 5 more All-defensive 1st teams, and 5 more All-NBA 1st teams, and.... an NCAA title.

Then we can have a discussion.

[tmacattack33]

I love it when people say stuff like "You can't say that now...let's wait until he wins some more rings".

Wow, way to go out on a limb and use your brain. Essentially, that's like we are discussing a game and making predictions and you say "Well yeah, I think team A might win, but let me wait until I see the final score and then I'll get back to you". :oldlol:

[tmacattack33]

Not even close.

He is not even at Birds level btw. let alone MJ.

MJ's level is 32.5 / 8 / 8.

Larry Bird's level is 30 ppg 10+rpg double double.

LBJ is definitely playing unbelievable but 27 ppg isnt exactly 30 ppg or 32.5 ppg.

MJ > Bird > LBJ

WTF?

Bird never once averaged 30 ppg and 10 rpg. He got 30 (29.9 actually) and 9 one year...but according to you, 9 isn't exactly 10 now is it.

And Bird was usually at 25 ppg and 10 rpg anyway...so i have no clue what u are talking about

[tmacattack33]

Also, MJ's level is not 32/8/8...LOL...he got 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game one season in his whole career. His norm was around 6.5 rebounds and 5 assists.

:facepalm

[Smoke117]

Lebron is definitely on Jordan's level. That doesn't mean he's better or greater, but he's certainly on the same tier.

[bdreason]

I love it when people say stuff like "You can't say that now...let's wait until he wins some more rings".

Wow, way to go out on a limb and use your brain. Essentially, that's like we are discussing a game and making predictions and you say "Well yeah, I think team A might win, but let me wait until I see the final score and then I'll get back to you". :oldlol:


Predicting someone is going to win 6 titles and 6 finals MVP's after he manages to win 1 in 3 tries is beyond optimistic. How about we wait until he gets at least 3 titles and 3 finals MVP's (half way) before we start comparing him to the GOAT's?

A more realistic comparison would be Kobe, Magic, or Bird... although he hasn't even reached that level yet. I'll never understand why people feel the need to compare every great player to MJ, while ignoring all the other great players.

[gengiskhan]

Also, MJ's level is not 32/8/8...LOL...he got 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game one season in his whole career.

:facepalm

damb ar$$

MJ was a lone all-star in that 1988-1989 team. You put Wade + Bosh, both all-star STARTERS on 1989 Bulls, 4-5 MJ seasons will be 30+ ppg + 10+ rpg or apg DOUBLE DOUBLES!

Respect Nikka. MJ got to 8 / 8 as only All-Star in the line up.

Bird had mchale + Parish. LBJ has Wade + Bosh.

Pippen & grant were still developing in 1989.

[bdreason]

Also, MJ's level is not 32/8/8...LOL...he got 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game one season in his whole career. His norm was around 6.5 rebounds and 5 assists.

:facepalm


MJ also has 9 NBA Scoring Titles. LeBron has 1.

[Smoke117]

Shut up gengis. Do you really think anyone actually takes you seriously? You and Andgar are the two biggest, stupidest, ****ing Jordan stans on the board. There is a reason I have you ignored...you say NOTHING of merit, EVER.

[gengiskhan]

MJ also has 9 NBA Scoring Titles. LeBron has 1.

10 scoring titles. its 7 straight + retirement + 3 straight.

[Sheik1287]

No one is on Jordan's level. I don't why people keep comparing the two. Lebron is more like Magic Johnson in the way he is an all around player. But he still needs to match the amount of championships as the other greats.

[tmacattack33]

damb ar$$

MJ was a lone all-star in that 1988-1989 team. You put Wade + Bosh, both all-star STARTERS on 1989 Bulls, 4-5 MJ seasons will be 30+ ppg + 10+ rpg or apg DOUBLE DOUBLES!

Respect Nikka. MJ got to 8 / 8 as only All-Star in the line up.

Bird had mchale + Parish. LBJ has Wade + Bosh.

Pippen & grant were still developing in 1989.

:biggums:

If you put Wade and Bosh on the 88 Bulls, MJ would have less possessions and it's more likely that his stats would go down rather than up.

[tmacattack33]

MJ also has 9 NBA Scoring Titles. LeBron has 1.

Scoring isn't even Lebron's best ability.

[Mr. Jabbar]

westbrook has the iq of a monkey

[gengiskhan]

:biggums:

If you put Wade and Bosh on the 88 Bulls, MJ would have less possessions and it's more likely that his stats would go down rather than up.

Have you even seen Wade's ball handling & dribbling ability :facepalm

Wade is the most careless ball handler for SG. He is a 'soft' dribbler & this means he cannot dribble away from his body like Pippen & Jordan who were 'hard' dribblers. :facepalm

[Jacks3]

He's playing in the weakest era for superstars in history. In a pathetic conference. With by far the most stacked team in the league.

Jordan level my ass. :facepalm

[Glide2keva]

I don't know about being on jordan's level, but to deny how he is just beasting without even busting a sweat is just hating.

[tmacattack33]

Have you even seen Wade's ball handling & dribbling ability :facepalm

Wade is the most careless ball handler for SG. He is a 'soft' dribbler & this means he cannot dribble away from his body like Pippen & Jordan who were 'hard' dribblers. :facepalm

I thought you said he was a good player and that would be a reason why MJ would have done better in 88 if Wade was on the 88 Bulls...

...and now you are saying he sucks?

:confusedshrug:

[PP34Deuce]

I don't know about being on jordan's level, but to deny how he is just beasting without even busting a sweat is just hating.

His stamina is whats amazing. He has shoot 3's really good, but he just out hustles you while being a star.

And I dont think he will ever get serious injuries because hes just bionic man.

[tmacattack33]

He's playing in the weakest era for superstars in history. In a pathetic conference. With by far the most stacked team in the league.

Jordan level my ass. :facepalm

They are 19-5 against the West. And they've already played OKC twice and LAC last week.

[Whoah10115]

Shut up gengis. Do you really think anyone actually takes you seriously? You and Andgar are the two biggest, stupidest, ****ing Jordan stans on the board. There is a reason I have you ignored...you say NOTHING of merit, EVER.



You're right on them, but James is certainly not on Jordan's level.


I wasn't a huge Jordan fan...especially as he beat my team a lot. But there really is no comparing. Michael could do everything at all times...and I don't mean he "could"; I mean he could because he DID.


The closest thing is Magic. Magic is pretty much my favorite player (along with Patrick) but I have to admit Jordan is somewhere else. Lebron is not there.

[Glide2keva]

You're right on them, but James is certainly not on Jordan's level.


I wasn't a huge Jordan fan...especially as he beat my team a lot. But there really is no comparing. Michael could do everything at all times...and I don't mean he "could"; I mean he could because he DID.


The closest thing is Magic. Magic is pretty much my favorite player (along with Patrick) but I have to admit Jordan is somewhere else. Lebron is not there.
But he is getting there.

[gengiskhan]

I thought you said he was a good player and that would be a reason why MJ would have done better in 88 if Wade was on the 88 Bulls...

...and now you are saying he sucks?

:confusedshrug:

MJ will still be a primary ball handler with Wade in the line up.

You said MJs touches will go down with Wade in the line up which is not true.

MJ's touches went down because Pippen was a great Point Forward an excellent ball handler & passer.

[gengiskhan]

He's playing in the weakest era for superstars in history. In a pathetic conference. With by far the most stacked team in the league.

Jordan level my ass. :facepalm

this.

[Whoah10115]

His stamina is whats amazing. He has shoot 3's really good, but he just out hustles you while being a star.

And I dont think he will ever get serious injuries because hes just bionic man.


Agree with all of this.

[Smoke117]

You're right on them, but James is certainly not on Jordan's level.


I wasn't a huge Jordan fan...especially as he beat my team a lot. But there really is no comparing. Michael could do everything at all times...and I don't mean he "could"; I mean he could because he DID.


The closest thing is Magic. Magic is pretty much my favorite player (along with Patrick) but I have to admit Jordan is somewhere else. Lebron is not there.

I said they are on the same tier, I never said he was as good as Jordan. Michael Jordan isn't god where nobody can reach his level. He may be the greatest but that doesn't mean he has no peers.

[tmacattack33]

MJ will still be a primary ball handler with Wade in the line up.

You said MJs touches will go down with Wade in the line up which is not true.

MJ's touches went down because Pippen was a great Point Forward an excellent ball handler & passer.

Man, arguing with you is highly entertaining and confusing.

[gengiskhan]

Man, arguing with you is highly entertaining and confusing.

Brother. 1988 & 1989 Pippen SUCKED !

& you are "EXCHANGING" an All-Star STARTER Wade for 1988 1989 pippen on Bulls so I said, MJ will get beyond 8 / 8

all-star STARTER Wade will give 2 more APG to MJ & get MJ total of APG to 8 + 2 = 10 APG

all-star STARTER 6'4" Wade will collect 2 less defensive RPG than 6'8" Pippen so MJ's RPG will go up 2 so 8+ 2 = 10 RPG

all-star STARTER Wade will steal 2-3 PPG from MJ so MJ's PPG will go down from 32.5 PPG to 30 PPG.

all-star STARTER Jordan + all-star STARTER Wade in 1989 Bulls line up will actually help MJ stats to 30 / 10 / 10

[BrickingStar]

genghis and kennethgriffen are pretty similiar

[Jax]

Lebron is not even trying, he's just toying with people, which only hurts his stats. He could go for 40 every night by just shooting 20 something shots.

[gengiskhan]

Lebron is not even trying, he's just toying with people, which only hurts his stats. He could go for 40 every night by just shooting 20 something shots.

trust me.

If lebron tries even harder, he'll start shooting 45%FG.

I mean just look at the ill advised 27 foot 3-pt kobe-like attempt he took to put the nail in OKC's coffin.

2-3 of those & he'll get to 45%FG.

He is better off toying & not trying too hard.

[chosen_one6]

trust me.

If lebron tries even harder, he'll start shooting 45%FG.

I mean just look at the ill advised 27 foot 3-pt kobe-like attempt he took to put the nail in OKC's coffin.

2-3 of those & he'll get to 45%FG.

He is better off toying & not trying too hard.

The level of idiocy in your posts cannot be described in words.

:facepalm

[gengiskhan]

The level of idiocy in your posts cannot be described in words.

:facepalm

What part of pathetic 27 foot kobe like 3pt FGA by LBJ did you miss. :facepalm

[NumberSix]

He's on the same level as a player. I doubt he accomplishes the same amount though.

[Dave3]

What part of pathetic 27 foot kobe like 3pt FGA by LBJ did you miss. :facepalm
The part where that is supposedly him "trying" - man doesn't care, just throws up whatever for fun, game was over.

[gengiskhan]

He's on the same level as a player. I doubt he accomplishes the same amount though.

No he is not.

LBJ is playing great. actually all-time great. :applause:

LBJ is not at MJ level.

MJs level is being on a "scoring champ" mode every year with 32+ PPG & still shoot 51+%FG despite TRIAGLE OFFENSE making pippen primary ball handler & playmaker.

LBJ is also not at BIRD level.

BIRD level is being 28+PPG with 9-11 RPG DOUBLE DOUBLE despite TWO 7-footers 7'0" perish & 7'0" Mchale stealing defensive RPG away from BIRD.

6'8" LBJ cannot up RPG to 6'9" BIRD level depite NOT having a single 7'0" guy on his team also wade is only 6'4"

LBJ is all-time great mode. BUT notch below peak prime MJ & peak prime BIRD.

reality check.

[plowking]

Brother. 1988 & 1989 Pippen SUCKED !

& you are "EXCHANGING" an All-Star STARTER Wade for 1988 1989 pippen on Bulls so I said, MJ will get beyond 8 / 8

all-star STARTER Wade will give 2 more APG to MJ & get MJ total of APG to 8 + 2 = 10 APG

all-star STARTER 6'4" Wade will collect 2 less defensive RPG than 6'8" Pippen so MJ's RPG will go up 2 so 8+ 2 = 10 RPG

all-star STARTER Wade will steal 2-3 PPG from MJ so MJ's PPG will go down from 32.5 PPG to 30 PPG.

all-star STARTER Jordan + all-star STARTER Wade in 1989 Bulls line up will actually help MJ stats to 30 / 10 / 10

Those stats are spread among the team. You just assume Jordan picks them up over the whole team? :oldlol:
He plays completely differently with Wade in the team.

[NumberSix]

No he is not.

LBJ is playing great. actually all-time great. :applause:

LBJ is not at MJ level.

MJs level is being on a "scoring champ" mode every year with 32+ PPG & still shoot 51+%FG despite TRIAGLE OFFENSE making pippen primary ball handler & playmaker.

LBJ is also not at BIRD level.

BIRD level is being 28+PPG with 9-11 RPG DOUBLE DOUBLE despite TWO 7-footers 7'0" perish & 7'0" Mchale stealing defensive RPG away from BIRD.

6'8" LBJ cannot up RPG to 6'9" BIRD level depite NOT having a single 7'0" guy on his team also wade is only 6'4"

LBJ is all-time great mode. BUT notch below peak prime MJ & peak prime BIRD.

reality check.
Not that rebounding alone decides how great a player is, but did you know LeBron is the best rebounder in the NBA?

I know, it sounds like I'm just being a homer, but there's a new 3D camera stats system that proves it.

Think about it. LeBron is a wing player who runs the point on offense. He's not usually right next to the basket for rebounds, but when he is in rebounding range, he grabs the rebound 83% of the time. That's the highest percentage in the NBA.

[nextlife]

These debates are as redundant as NBA player interview responses. Who cares, just enjoy watching them play

[gengiskhan]

Those stats are spread among the team. You just assume Jordan picks them up over the whole team? :oldlol:
He plays completely differently with Wade in the team.

thats the secret regarding Michael Jordan.

He is still the same attacking MJ.

When TRIANGLE OFFENSE was introduced to FORCE MJ to change the game & turn him into 24-25 PPG SG......MJ attacked back with "mid-range" game & still got to 32 PPG

When PF like PIPPEN playmaker ball handler was introduced to FORCE MJ to change his game & become 24-25 PPG SG......MJ attacked back with "post-up fallaways, fadeaways" Jumper's & still got to 32 PPG.

MJ's scoring insticts NEVER changed despite EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE introduced by Phil Jackson.

You honestly think introducing Wade into Bulls line up will cause MJ to loose SCORING TITLES.

think again.

[NumberSix]

thats the secret regarding Michael Jordan.

He is still the same attacking MJ.

When TRIANGLE OFFENSE was introduced to FORCE MJ to change the game & turn him into 24-25 PPG SG......MJ attacked back with "mid-range" game & still got to 32 PPG

When PF like PIPPEN playmaker ball handler was introduced to FORCE MJ to change his game & become 24-25 PPG SG......MJ attacked back with "post-up fallaways, fadeaways" Jumper's & still got to 32 PPG.

MJ's scoring insticts NEVER changed despite EQUAL OPPORTUNITY OFFENSE introduced by Phil Jackson.

You honestly think introducing Wade into Bulls line up will cause MJ to loose SCORING TITLES.

think again.
Who cares if it would or wouldn't? You act as if scoring is the undisputed most valuable skillset for being a basketball player. Michael Jordan can't shine Wilt Chamberlain's shoes as a scorer. It doesn't matter. That's not the be all end all of being a great player.

[Jyap9675]

My only criticism of Lebron is that his jumpshot doesn't look as pretty as Kobe's or Melo's. But other than that, amazing player.. it seems like he can gel into any system.

[NumberSix]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Jaxandalan/Funny%20Stuff/More%20Funny%20Stuff/fail-owned-pizza-hut-has-pizza-obvi.jpg

[Mr. Jabbar]

on current jordan maybe

[Micku]

My only criticism of Lebron is that his jumpshot doesn't look as pretty as Kobe's or Melo's. But other than that, amazing player.. it seems like he can gel into any system.

Not to me. That's actually my criticism of LeBron. As great as he is, I still don't think he is as good off the ball as Durant, Bird, or Jordan. He doesn't have that versatility to operate like that. But he has improved, no doubt! He could spot up better and get into the position to post up. But he is more of a PG than anything else.

But if he didn't play like a PG, then he wouldn't take away Wade's ability in the first year of handling the ball. That's really my only criticism. And his FTs.

[Jax]

trust me.

If lebron tries even harder, he'll start shooting 45%FG.

I mean just look at the ill advised 27 foot 3-pt kobe-like attempt he took to put the nail in OKC's coffin.

2-3 of those & he'll get to 45%FG.

He is better off toying & not trying too hard.
I'm pretty sure he did it on purpose to end the 60% talk...was getting boring to him. He shot like 2 or 3 of those.

[FPJ]

Im a big fan of Lebron's game. He has a smart game, taking tough shots only when he feels he can make em (unlike Kobe who just doesnt care). Very good player, will go down as an All time greatest.

Jordan's game though was out of this world. He'd target the best player of the opposite team and just crush him. We should only take into account the opinion of people who saw him play. Jordan was a winner, had the killer instinct. The impact he's had on the game itself was amazing. Players were intimidated by just Jordan's presence. I can only imagine how Jordan would do in todays game against the likes of Anthony and Durant.

The player (that i saw playing, not all time) who came the closest to Jordan domination was prime Shaq in my opinion.

[B4llin]

See a thread that tells me Lebron is on Jordan's level.

Then see stats that tell me Jordan averaged 37PPG in his 3rd season



SHUT THE **** UP ****** **** SUCKER

[DCL]

lebron is absolutely beasting right now, but stop comparing him to god.

jordan ain't even goat anymore. he's god now.

dude is turning 50 years old, and they run half-hour specials about his ass all week that he's turning 50 years old.

no athlete is coming close to that level when 10 years have passed since your last game and they randomly make an excuse to worship you like deity just because you're turning 50.

even the real god is jealous.

[Magic 32]

Let him do it in the playoffs. MJ did.

[All Net]

Let him do it in the playoffs. MJ did.

He did last year he just needs to keep doing it.

[Alan Ogg]

I don't post a lot, but I think this thread warrants a response. It really bothers me when people compare players of different eras without adjusting for the pace of the game. It makes a difference, and it can not be ignored. I've been watching ball since the 80s and the difference between then and now is substantial.

Take a look at the league pace and points per game difference between now and the Magic / Bird / Jordan eras.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html)

I'm a huge fan of greatness and legacies. I've been pretty critical of comparisons with Lebron in the past. But to me, there is no denying that right now he is playing as well as anyone who has ever played the game.

Unlike many, I'm actually a fan of ALL Kobe, Lebron, Bird, Magic, and Jordan. I love great basketball.

In a way, it's also unfair to compare Lebron right now since his career is not over. If his career ended today, I'd probably place his legacy still outside the top 10 of all time (although another MVP, championship, and Finals MVP would certainly change that).

Just wait and see everyone, and enjoy the greatness on the way. So far, so good though for Lebron.

[Living Being]

I don't post a lot, but I think this thread warrants a response. It really bothers me when people compare players of different eras without adjusting for the pace of the game. It makes a difference, and it can not be ignored. I've been watching ball since the 80s and the difference between then and now is substantial.

Take a look at the league pace and points per game difference between now and the Magic / Bird / Jordan eras.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html
(http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html)

I'm a huge fan of greatness and legacies. I've been pretty critical of comparisons with Lebron in the past. But to me, there is no denying that right now he is playing as well as anyone who has ever played the game.

Unlike many, I'm actually a fan of ALL Kobe, Lebron, Bird, Magic, and Jordan. I love great basketball.

In a way, it's also unfair to compare Lebron right now since his career is not over. If his career ended today, I'd probably place his legacy still outside the top 10 of all time (although another MVP, championship, and Finals MVP would certainly change that).

Just wait and see everyone, and enjoy the greatness on the way. So far, so good though for Lebron.
3pt% is up. Your point? :banana:

[Magic 32]

He did last year he just needs to keep doing it.

http://i46.tinypic.com/huf02b.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/w6v5w8.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/1r5eeu.jpg

[KOBE143]

Jordan level my ass!!

He need to win a real whole ring first in a complete season before we can put him in the same sentence as Jordan and Kobe..

Right now he's on Malone and Barkley's level.. Still s high level tho..

[tontoz]

I think what Lebron is doing now is comparable to what Jordan did in the regular season. But what people remember is what Jordan did in the playoffs.

-dropping 63 on the eventual champion Celtics in Boston.
-last second shot on Ehlo in deciding 5th game.
-35 points in first half in Game one of Finals against Portland.
-last second shot on Russell in the Finals.

and so on and on. Lebron has to show out in the playoffs to be seen as being on Jordans level.

The "superfriends" team in Miami doesn't help his case. Jordan stayed in Chicago and struggled for years to finally get a ring which makes him more popular than a guy who joins other stars looking for the easy road to the title.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I think what Lebron is doing now is comparable to what Jordan did in the regular season. But what people remember is what Jordan did in the playoffs.

-dropping 63 on the eventual champion Celtics in Boston.
-last second shot on Ehlo in deciding 5th game.
-35 points in first half in Game one of Finals against Portland.
-last second shot on Russell in the Finals.

and so on and on. Lebron has to show out in the playoffs to be seen as being on Jordans level.

The "superfriends" team in Miami doesn't help his case. Jordan stayed in Chicago and struggled for years to finally get a ring which makes him more popular than a guy who joins other stars looking for the easy road to the title.

All of this

[guy]

If he continues this into the playoffs, then you can definitely argue he is. But thats a big assumption to make not based on anything but his current play. Jordan has had similar regular seasons and then was able to continue it into the playoffs.

I'd actually go as far to say that Lebron still has the potential to reach a higher peak then Jordan. But he can't do that based on his regular season. And even if he does surpass his peak, for their overall career it will be hard due to his embarassing moments in the past and it'll be very hard for him to age as well as Jordan did.

[tikay0]

Lebron is not even trying, he's just toying with people, which only hurts his stats. He could go for 40 every night by just shooting 20 something shots.

Then his precious FG% would take a dip. He's damn sure trying to protect that.

[Dave3]

Then his precious FG% would take a dip. He's damn sure trying to protect that.
Yeah, I'd pull up for shots 5 feet behind the 3 point line too if I was trying to protect FG%...and 3 times in one game too.

The FG% is a result of taking good shots and avoiding bad shots, not avoiding shots altogether.

[bizil]

You have too look at the things Bron has on Bird, Magic, or MJ. For starters, dude is 6'8 260 pounds and a freakish athlete. Secondly, Bron's defensive versatility can't be touched by any of them. And Bron scoring the rock is so efficient it's scary. It's damn near to where everytime he touches the rock he's gonna get points or assists. If anything, Bron peak value is proving to be the best all around or most versatile player of all time. He's eclipsed MJ, Bird, and Magic in that regard. Frankly, I put a guy like KG second in that all around or versatility list. MJ and Kobe can literally do it all at their size. But those guys have three position versatility on both sides of the rock. While Bron and KG come the closest to having 5 position versatility on both sides. But I do put MJ over Bron in terms of who is the better player. Better player and most versatile player are two different arguments. Plain and simple NOBODY can take a game by the throat the way MJ did.