Russell Westbrook

[brandonislegend]

Finally the world sees it to refresh their memory, game stats look good, empty stats dude is top 5 lowest IQ in the league, the Thunder will never win a championship with this idiot running point takes the worst shots at the worst times.

in b4 he takes terrible shots because he has to win :roll:

[Glide2keva]

Man I was pausing the game and showing my son how this dude is dumb as a rock. Play after play. Just, stupid.

[Mr. Jabbar]

OKC will NEVER win it all with Westbrook. Abysmall IQ, moves 10x faster than he thinks. Westbrook is the closest thing I've seen to Shannon Brown IQ-wise, even athletically they are very similar.

Awful player.

[imnew09]

Steve Blake , Morris for Westbrook! Deal?

[andgar923]

Finally the world sees it to refresh their memory, game stats look good, empty stats dude is top 5 lowest IQ in the league, the Thunder will never win a championship with this idiot running point takes the worst shots at the worst times.

in b4 he takes terrible shots because he has to win :roll:
He's terrible and I don't say that lightly.

One of the worst point guards I've ever seen. Easily has a top 3 Low IQ for a PG of all time

[brandonislegend]

I know I will negged by every Westbrook groupie as usual, but it's the truth.

[imdaman99]

goatbrook gonna goat :rockon:

making ppl on the internet angry. lovin it :rockon:

[FindingTim]

at halftime I checked the box score, and I was stunned by how well Westbrook was performing. It didn't feel like he was having much of a positive impact at all...

[derb2k2]

at the beginning of the season it seemed he'd worked on his decision-making, but man he still doing stupid shit:biggums: :biggums:

[PP34Deuce]

OKC will NEVER win it all with Westbrook. Abysmall IQ, moves 10x faster than he thinks. Westbrook is the closest thing I've seen to Shannon Browns IQ wise, even athletically they are very similar.

Awful player.


Lol Hes moves too fast to make decisions. When I see westbrook drive to the lane its so explosive you'd have to go back and pin point where to make a pass. The guy just has a gear only Rose and AI had.

[imdaman99]

same old troll making the same old threads :roll:

[bdreason]

Keep chuckin Westbrick.

[brandonislegend]

at halftime I checked the box score, and I was stunned by how well Westbrook was performing. It didn't feel like he was having much of a positive impact at all...

Most of his fans have a similar IQ they see good numbers and dunks and start drooling from the mouth instead of actually thinking the PG is the guy with the ball most the time and the dumbass pullups he shoots with a teammate wide open is negated by fancy dunks

[gengiskhan]

OKC will NEVER win it all with Westbrook. Abysmall IQ, moves 10x faster than he thinks. Westbrook is the closest thing I've seen to Shannon Brown IQ-wise, even athletically they are very similar.

Awful player.

this.

[CelticBaller]

damn 6 To

[imdaman99]

he had a very shitty game but still had 26 pts with 10 assists. it happens. its not as if he shot 2-15 and had 6 pts :pimp:

[LikeABosh]

He pulls up for so many jumpers on the break and while taking the ball up.

[brandonislegend]

damn 6 To

Its not even the turnovers, if you could the dumb shots he shoots when a teammate is wide open or with a full shot clock as a turnover he would average 10 a game

[fos]

I am not a fan. He's got the mentality of a child. I can't believe Durant hasn't strangled him to death yet... heck of an athlete though.

[andgar923]

damn 6 To
Should've been more but either got bailed out by refs or teammates

[imdaman99]

He pulls up for so many jumpers on the break and while taking the ball up.
yeah, hes gotta try to make things happen in other ways. that is OKC's offense though. blame it on the coach. you think if he slowed it up, that scott brooks has some other magical play designed? no, odds are that its durant on the other side isolation. i know durant ended up with great numbers, but he was struggling at the time.

[brandonislegend]

yeah, hes gotta try to make things happen in other ways. that is OKC's offense though. blame it on the coach. you think if he slowed it up, that scott brooks has some other magical play designed? no, odds are that its durant on the other side isolation. i know durant ended up with great numbers, but he was struggling at the time.

There was at least 6 times this game where he shot a dumbass shot with a teammate wide open, that's the coaches fault? :biggums:

[imdaman99]

love it, got new posters that will follow goatbrook's every move :pimp:

[Smoke117]

he had a very shitty game but still had 26 pts with 10 assists. it happens. its not as if he shot 2-15 and had 6 pts :pimp:


I think you mean the refs happen, right? Only reason it LOOKS like he had a good game.

[Big Cheese]

i thought smoove had the worst shot selection in the nba westbrook but my god :facepalm . Pull up 3's when your teammates havent even crossed halfcourt yet :lol

[imdaman99]

There was at least 6 times this game where he shot a dumbass shot with a teammate wide open, that's the coaches fault? :biggums:
yeah perkins was open. he should have passed to him. holy shit you're a genius :bowdown:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I'm generally a fan of the guy but he has so many brain cramps it's unreal. those pull-up 3s :facepalm . they should move him to the 2.

[brandonislegend]

yeah perkins was open. he should have passed to him. holy shit you're a genius :bowdown:

No Durant on the wing twice and Thabo several times.

[imdaman99]

I think you mean the refs happen, right? Only reason it LOOKS like he had a good game.
no, i said he had a shitty game no ifs ands or buts. but even when he plays like shit he helps the team. he aint no cp3 i know that. but this is a kid that helped his team get to the finals. its obvious they werent ready the last few years when they came up short. but once upon a time, lebron wasnt ready either.

[Graviton]

Even if he played a perfect game and made all the right decisions, it still wouldn't make a dent in a 20+ blowout. The whole team got exposed. OKC has...

No ball handler aside from Westbrook
No consistent big that can hit mid range, score inside or even get offensive rebounds vs small Heat
No offensive plan besides ISOs
No defensive scheme besides reaching and doubling
No coach that holds everyone accountable

And GTFO here with that "doesn't pass to open teammates" bull$hit, Miami doesn't leave anyone open. Their rotating D is too good. Westbrook wasn't responsible for Durant vanishing, or Perkins, Martin, Ibaka and Thabo playing like shit and standing aroung waiting for Westbrook/Durant to do everything. Brooks has no answer for Miami.

If Pop had this roster, you would much smarter play from them all, but Brooks lets them do whatever. OKC needs a real backup PG like Calderon and a big man with balls that can score inside. As is, Bosh/Lebron will keep raping OKC while Durant/Westbrook struggle vs their D.

[imdaman99]

No Durant on the wing twice and Thabo several times.
which durant? the one that was 0-7? or the one that magically ended up shooting 50%?

must hand it to you though, sefolosha did shoot 50% :applause: 2-4

[Smoke117]

no, i said he had a shitty game no ifs ands or buts. but even when he plays like shit he helps the team. he aint no cp3 i know that. but this is a kid that helped his team get to the finals. its obvious they werent ready the last few years when they came up short. but once upon a time, lebron wasnt ready either.

And they are ready now? The same thing that happened last year will happen this year if the Heat and Thunder end up in the finals. The Thunder just play right into the Heats hands and are a horrible match up for them. The Spurs and Clippers would have a better chance of possibly winning a series vs the Heat.

[brandonislegend]

Even if he played a perfect game and made all the right decisions, it still wouldn't make a dent in a 20+ blowout. The whole team got exposed. OKC has...

No ball handler aside from Westbrook
No consistent big that can hit mid range, score inside or even get offensive rebounds vs small Heat
No offensive plan besides ISOs
No defensive scheme besides reaching and doubling
No coach that holds everyone accountable

And GTFO here with that "doesn't pass to open teammates" bull$hit, Miami doesn't leave anyone open. Their rotating D is too good. Westbrook wasn't responsible for Durant vanishing, or Perkins, Martin, Ibaka and Thabo playing like shit and standing aroung waiting for Westbrook/Durant to do everything. Brooks has no answer for Miami.

If Pop had this roster, you would much smarter play from them all, but Brooks lets them do whatever. OKC needs a real backup PG like Calderon and a big man with balls that can score inside. As is, Bosh/Lebron will keep raping OKC while Durant/Westbrook struggle vs their D.

You mean OKC needs to get an actual starting point guard like Calderon, let Westbrook play SG, making a decision is too difficult for a moron.

[Glide2keva]

He does things that can't be measured in stats. Dumb things that they don't have a stat for.

[Whoah10115]

He's a SG.


And that's a fact.

[imdaman99]

And they are ready now? The same thing that happened last year will happen this year if the Heat and Thunder end up in the finals. The Thunder just play right into the Heats hands and are a horrible match up for them. The Spurs and Clippers would have a better chance of possibly winning a series vs the Heat.
So... let me guess. There are other teams that match up great against the Heat right now? We all thought the Thunder matched up well with the Heat last year, but that was debunked. OKC young players have a good memory. The Spurs used to whip up on them too like the Heat are doing now. And then the Thunder got their revenge. Regular seasons do not expose teams with .700 winning %s

[NumberSix]

Meh. He's better than that fraud Durant.

[Graviton]

You mean OKC needs to get an actual starting point guard like Calderon, let Westbrook play SG, making a decision is too difficult for a moron.
Yes the decision, pass to Perkins, Ibaka or Thabo, all inconsistent role players with no offensive game. And no one is gonna leave Durant wide open, not that he even needs to be assisted when he creates on his own.

Their issue is a team problem, team ball and body movement. You can put CP3 in there and he would struggle vs this Heat defense too. One guy isn't gonna magically fix these flaws, everyone needs to be held accountable. The coach first and foremost that allows that kind of shotjacking and has no real plan offensively besides riding Durant/Westbrook.

[brandonislegend]

Man I was pausing the game and showing my son how this dude is dumb as a rock. Play after play. Just, stupid.

Great dad :bowdown:

[B-Low]

Where's Budadiiaiiiiai?

[brandonislegend]

Yes the decision, pass to Perkins, Ibaka or Thabo, all inconsistent role players with no offensive game. And no one is gonna leave Durant wide open, not that he even needs to be assisted when he creates on his own.

Their issue is a team problem, team ball and body movement. You can put CP3 in there and he would struggle vs this Heat defense too. One guy isn't gonna magically fix these flaws, everyone needs to be held accountable. The coach first and foremost that allows that kind of shotjacking and has no real plan offensively besides riding Durant/Westbrook.

Oh please you can't really believe that, CP3 on the hornets had David West who isn't half the player Durant is and who else? He made his teammates better because he knows how to play correctly, shooting terrible pullups is sure gonna make things better. You forgot about a guy named Kevin Martin who is a proven 20 pt scorer in this league who got 5 shots tonight, great point guard.

[imdaman99]

Ok I have fed him enough.

Don't feed the troll, terrible poster is terrible poster

[Whoah10115]

Oh please you can't really believe that, CP3 on the hornets had David West who isn't half the player Durant is and who else? He made his teammates better because he knows how to play correctly, shooting terrible pullups is sure gonna make things better. You forgot about a guy named Kevin Martin who is a proven 20 pt scorer in this league who got 5 shots tonight, great point guard.



He's a great player who plays PG and performs as a great player. Going by your posts, you would think he hurts more than he helps...even tho that's impossible.



But, they'll never win the title with him playing PG. Especially without someone else who can help facilitate or command the floor.

[Celtic_Pride]

He's a SG.

And that's a fact.

SG who is horrible in catch and shoot situations

He needs a playmaking long-distance threat guard beside him. Harden is a perfect fit who can cover Westbrook's weaknesses..such a shame that OKC cannot afford him

[SilkkTheShocker]

Irving >>>> Westbrick.

[brandonislegend]

Ok I have fed him enough.

Don't feed the troll, terrible poster is terrible poster]
thank god stop posting you are so delusional even worse than a troll cause trolls are just making shit up you actually believe what you say:roll:

[Whoah10115]

SG who is horrible in catch and shoot situations

He needs a playmaking long-distance threat guard beside him. Harden is a perfect fit who can cover Westbrook's weaknesses..such a shame that OKC cannot afford him



So was Wade, even in his prime. Westbrook reminds me of Wade a little...maybe a little Arenas.


I agree on what Harden brought...however, I also think he needs someone to actually play PG next to him. He's great at breaking down a defense and playmaking like that, but he's not a floor general or very much a facilitator. They need something.

[Graviton]

Oh please you can't really believe that, CP3 on the hornets had David West who isn't half the player Durant is and who else? He made his teammates better because he knows how to play correctly, shooting terrible pullups is sure gonna make things better. You forgot about a guy named Kevin Martin who is a proven 20 pt scorer in this league who got 5 shots tonight, great point guard.
And after CP3, Jarret Jack replicated his performance, after Jack, Vasquez is doing the same. Hornets actually have a PG oriented system. OKC has nothing.

And how is that Westbrook's fault? Did Brooks run plays for Martin and Westbrook refused to pass? You argue like a child with no logic. It's not all black and white. 1 player isn't gonna make a difference when there is no real offensive system in place.

Why did the Spurs sweep the Clippers when CP3 was supposed to be superior to Parker? Because Spurs actually utilized a system that made the most of their talent, it's the same with OKC vs Heat.

[brandonislegend]

And after CP3, Jarret Jack replicated his performance, after Jack, Vasquez is doing the same. Hornets actually have a PG oriented system. OKC has nothing.

And how is that Westbrook's fault? Did Brooks run plays for Martin and Westbrook refused to pass? You argue like a child with no logic. It's not all black and white. 1 player isn't gonna make a difference when there is no real offensive system in place.

Why did the Spurs sweep the Clippers when CP3 was supposed to be superior to Parker? Because Spurs actually utilized a system that made the most of their talent, it's the same with OKC vs Heat.
Maybe because all the point guards are known for having high IQ and Westbrick is as smart as a pile of bricks.

[Celtic_Pride]

So was Wade, even in his prime. Westbrook reminds me of Wade a little...


Wade w/o the IQ, vision and finishing ability..

[Whoah10115]

there is no real offensive system in place.




This is absolutely not true. The offensive system in place is tailor-made for the guys on this team and, specifically, Russell Westbrook. He does a lot more than Brandon gives him credit for, but he makes bad decisions.

[Whoah10115]

Wade w/o the IQ, vision and finishing ability..



I wouldn't agree on the finishing ability. I mean, not as good as Wade, but how many players have been? But he's got finishing.


And yes, I agree on both IQ and vision.

[Celtic_Pride]

And after CP3, Jarret Jack replicated his performance, after Jack, Vasquez is doing the same. Hornets actually have a PG oriented system. OKC has nothing.

And how is that Westbrook's fault? Did Brooks run plays for Martin and Westbrook refused to pass? You argue like a child with no logic. It's not all black and white. 1 player isn't gonna make a difference when there is no real offensive system in place.

Why did the Spurs sweep the Clippers when CP3 was supposed to be superior to Parker? Because Spurs actually utilized a system that made the most of their talent, it's the same with OKC vs Heat.

Their offensive system (which is everyone thriving of Durant's attention) is ideal for Westbrook. Put him in place of Parker, he will suck

[Celtic_Pride]

I wouldn't agree on the finishing ability. I mean, not as good as Wade, but how many players have been? But he's got finishing.


Wade was a superstar because of his insane finishing ability. Westbrook's finishing ability is a joke compared to Wade

That comparison is not fair at all..

[brandonislegend]

He shoots low 40s now, if you put him on a different team, lets say the Cavs for laughs, with no Durant getting attention what percentage would he shoot? 38%? You are complaining about playmaking for Durant, Ibaka, Collison, Kevin Martin how about instead of them you get Thompson, Zeller, Waiters, and Gee. How would he do then? He might average 26ppg on 40% with 5 turnovers at best but how many assist does he get now from just walking up the court and hitting Durant on a pin down, you swear like he doesn't have help.

He is another Steve Francis/Stephen Marbury

[andremiller07]

They should try do a 3 way deal to get Milsap and trade away Ibaka but it would require a 3rd team.

[Graviton]

Their offensive system (which is everyone thriving of Durant's attention) is ideal for Westbrook. Put him in place of Parker, he will suck
Their offensive system is ISO Durant or ISO Westbrook. :oldlol:

There is no team ball or body movement, just those 2 guys taking turns pounding the ball while everyone is a spot up shooter. That was Celtics with Rondo, except they couldn't win that way. When Rondo went out, Celtics offense actually improved with everyone now touching the ball.

Team ball movement>one predictable guy overdribbling and padding assists. That's what OKC needs, constant movement and passing. Learn from Spurs and 2011 Dallas, only way to beat Miami is to play as a team, otherwise 1-2 guys doing everything will easily be shut down by Heat's defense.

[Noyze]

Westbrook took an unreal amount of bad shots and turnovers. If you look at the stats and didn't see the game then it looks like he played well. Not trying to diss, he just made so many bad decisions when OKC was cutting into the lead.

[brandonislegend]

Their offensive system is ISO Durant or ISO Westbrook. :oldlol:

There is no team ball or body movement, just those 2 guys taking turns pounding the ball while everyone is a spot up shooter. That was Celtics with Rondo, except they couldn't win that way. When Rondo went out, Celtics offense actually improved with everyone now touching the ball.

Team ball movement>one predictable guy overdribbling and padding assists. That's what OKC needs, constant movement and passing. Learn from Spurs and 2011 Dallas, only way to beat Miami is to play as a team, otherwise 1-2 guys doing everything will easily be shut down by Heat's defense.

I dont think you are understanding if they ran a real system Westbrook would not be successful. It would be like putting Shaq on the Suns when they were still running, it doesnt fit because he is too stupid all he is is athleticism that's why he isolates he doesnt understand the game.

[Whoah10115]

Wade was a superstar because of his insane finishing ability. Westbrook's finishing ability is a joke compared to Wade

That comparison is not fair at all..



It's not like I'm comparing quality. I'm comparing the kinds of players they are. Wade is almost 6'4 with no shoes. Westbrook is 6'3. Both are combo guards. Both are SG's. Both slash, both like to work for their own buckets in the midrange. They're both all-time elite athletes, who aggressively attack the basket.


The point is that, like Wade, Westbrook should be playing SG. Wade has much better handles, vision, IQ, ability to run an offense and play the point. And he didn't have an elite wing player who led the league in scoring, to give the ball to.


But he wasn't the point guard. So why is Westbrook being asked to play PG? At this point, I think he wants to stay at the point because someone else is going to be looking for Durant before Westbrook...and Westbrook doesn't want to be anyone's second option.

[andremiller07]

The point is that, like Wade, Westbrook should be playing SG.


Say they want to move him to SG, would your trade Thabo/Ibaka for a passing PG/scoring PF?

[Whoah10115]

He shoots low 40s now, if you put him on a different team, lets say the Cavs for laughs, with no Durant getting attention what percentage would he shoot? 38%? You are complaining about playmaking for Durant, Ibaka, Collison, Kevin Martin how about instead of them you get Thompson, Zeller, Waiters, and Gee. How would he do then? He might average 26ppg on 40% with 5 turnovers at best but how many assist does he get now from just walking up the court and hitting Durant on a pin down, you swear like he doesn't have help.

He is another Steve Francis/Stephen Marbury



More than Irving.



He's already better than either Marbury or Francis ever were. Francis was never anything special...at least not as a PG, which he played. Marbury was a PG and he had himself one really great year. But Westbrook has already been better and his attitude, despite being that brat that tries to show he's tough at the playground, is much better than either of theirs.

[brandonislegend]

Say they want to move him to SG, would your trade Thabo/Ibaka for a passing PG/scoring PF?

Honest question do you really think with westbricks ego he would agree to give up the PG spot?

[brandonislegend]

More than Irving.



He's already better than either Marbury or Francis ever were. Francis was never anything special...at least not as a PG, which he played. Marbury was a PG and he had himself one really great year. But Westbrook has already been better and his attitude, despite being that brat that tries to show he's tough at the playground, is much better than either of theirs.

They never played with Kevin Durant or James Harden.

[Whoah10115]

Say they want to move him to SG, would your trade Thabo/Ibaka for a passing PG/scoring PF?



I would trade Harden for one....


oh shit.


Presti make mistake...I wouldn't trade Ibaka. I want him to be around when he's finally the defender that his blocks says he is. I would trade Lamb, Sefalosha and that 1st round pick. What the hell is that pick gonna get? And how useful is Thabo next to Westbrook? I'm just trying to think who they could get...

[Graviton]

I dont think you are understanding if they ran a real system Westbrook would not be successful. It would be like putting Shaq on the Suns when they were still running, it doesnt fit because he is too stupid all he is is athleticism that's why he isolates he doesnt understand the game.
Is that a fact or your baseless opinion? I am sure an NBA all-star with scoring and passing skill can't adapt to change. Afterall, they get paid 100+ million to be stubborn and one-dimensional. They are not scrubs, they can handle different systems, ball movement isn't magic.

[andremiller07]

I'm just trying to think who they could get...

Darren Collison? DJ Augustine,Jameer Nelson and Andre Miller they say seems to be unhappy being a back up for Denver

[Celtic_Pride]

And how useful is Thabo next to Westbrook?

Defending Kobe? Defending Paul?

If Brooks didn't make that change of Thabo guarding Parker from Game 3, no way they would have beaten the Spurs.

Westbrook cannot guard Kobe/Paul/Parker 1 on 1 despite his athleticism and if they can't control them, OKC ain't getting to the Finals!

[Whoah10115]

Honest question do you really think with westbricks ego he would agree to give up the PG spot?



This is my issue, and I posted it just before you did. If there's another PG then Durant will be that PG's first option. It wouldn't go thru Westbrook's discretion. He may be stupid on the court, but he's not stupid enough not to know that. And he doesn't want that.



They never played with Kevin Durant or James Harden.



True, but they never outplayed both of them in the NBA Finals either. Westbrook was, by far, OKC's best player in the Finals.

[DuMa]

that Maynor injury is hurting OKC. i mean Harden was pretty good in the 4th quarter decision making last 2 years for them but OKC really used Maynor for much of that prior to Harden breaking out the last year or two. Maynor is a true point guard and can calm down the team with his poise and playmaking. His injury is a huge loss for them if he cant recover. Reggie Jackson aint the same or is too far from developing into that PG that OKC needs.

If Maynor is healthy, i dont think you see Russ handling the rock as much as he is doing right now.

[bdreason]

It's interesting that OKC chose Westbrook over Harden because of his position and relative importance to the team. However, it's starting to look like Harden is both a better scorer and playamker, and OKC may have been better off just plugging in a veteran shooter at PG and letting Harden and Durant take turns on offense.

[Graviton]

Defending Kobe? Defending Paul?

If Brooks didn't make that change of Thabo guarding Parker from Game 3, no way they would have beaten the Spurs.

Westbrook cannot guard Kobe/Paul/Parker 1 on 1 despite his athleticism and if they can't control them, OKC ain't getting to the Finals!
Westbrook was the one guarding Parker in 4th quarters, his D on Paul in 4th/Overtime won them the game vs Clippers this season.

And LOL at Thabo guarding Kobe, Bryant took a shit on him last year, Durant was switched on Kobe in 4th quarters and bothered him with his length. Thabo gets posted up and owned by Kobe.

Sefalosha is such an overrated defender, he is useless vs Kobe/Lebron on top of being a non factor offensively. He can only pick on small guys like CP3/Parker. :oldlol:

You can get a better defender with more offense, Arron Afflalo perhaps.

[Celtic_Pride]

Westbrook was the one guarding Parker in 4th quarters, his D on Paul in 4th/Overtime won them the game vs Clippers this season.

And LOL at Thabo guarding Kobe, Bryant took a shit on him last year, Durant was switched on Kobe in 4th quarters and bothered him with his length. Thabo gets posted up and owned by Kobe.

Sefalosha is such an overrated defender, he is useless vs Kobe/Lebron on top of being a non factor offensively. He can only pick on small guys like CP3/Parker. :oldlol:

You can get a better defender with more offense, Arron Afflalo perhaps.

No

Westbrook got shitted on by Parker so bad that Brooks was forced to make that change which saved the series. He did a good job on Bryant as well

Afflalo is not a better defender than Thabo..Just no and how are they getting Afflalo on his current contract?

Westbrook is having the best supporting cast of all the top point guards in this league and you are saying he needs more help :coleman:

[Graviton]

No

Westbrook got shitted on by Parker so bad that Brooks was forced to make that change which saved the series. He did a good job on Bryant as well

Afflalo is not a better defender than Thabo..Just no and how are they getting Afflalo on his current contract?

Westbrook is having the best supporting cast of all the top point guards in this league and you are saying he needs more help :coleman:
Paul has better teammates. Besides Durant/Westbrook, who do teams have to fear in the playoffs? Perkins? Ibaka? Thabo? Martin?

You obviously haven't watched lot of OKC games if you think Thabo is so good. :oldlol: How about you take him for Bradley?

[Mr. Jabbar]

I watch OKC entirely unbiased, I don't like or dislike any of their players. And let me tell ya, Westbrook is dumb as a rock, and holding this team.

[Celtic_Pride]

Paul has better teammates. Besides Durant/Westbrook, who do teams have to fear in the playoffs? Perkins? Ibaka? Thabo? Martin?

You obviously haven't watched lot of OKC games if you think Thabo is so good. :oldlol: How about you take him for Bradley?

Hmm who exactly does Paul have who steps up in the playoffs? He basically has to carry their offense all the time

Westbrook's supporting cast >>> Paul's and it's not even close.

Bradley for Thabo? I am in if we are allowed to swap Jeff Green for Kevin Durant!

[Whoah10115]

Darren Collison? DJ Augustine,Jameer Nelson and Andre Miller they say seems to be unhappy being a back up for Denver



I have no more respect for Jameer so I wouldn't look at him. Andre Miller can be perfect anywhere. But I can't see Denver doing anything like that.

Augstine could be worth a shot, but it's a risk. Darren Collison played with Westbrook at UCLA, but he sometimes gets way too ahead of himself. But I think he could work because he is a PG. And he can shoot.


For the most part, I think it's too much of a risk to bring in someone like Nelson or Augustine, because it could upset Westbrook. It's not like if you got Rondo. His whining wouldn't be acceptable then. But, due to play style and due, mostly, to their previous partnership at UCLA, I do think Collison could be a great pickup. It can't happen this season tho. It's gonna have to be in the Summer.

[Whoah10115]

Defending Kobe? Defending Paul?

If Brooks didn't make that change of Thabo guarding Parker from Game 3, no way they would have beaten the Spurs.

Westbrook cannot guard Kobe/Paul/Parker 1 on 1 despite his athleticism and if they can't control them, OKC ain't getting to the Finals!



I get that, but he's not a good offensive fit. And I actually think Westbrook could handle himself as a man defender and defend any guard. I'd rather get a slight defensive downgrade in Thabo's place, assuming it's an actual PG. Afflalo is not a good fit, I don't think...he's also not a better defender than Thabo (I know it wasn't you who said that).

[Graviton]

Hmm who exactly does Paul have who steps up in the playoffs? He basically has to carry their offense all the time

Westbrook's supporting cast >>> Paul's and it's not even close.

Bradley for Thabo? I am in if we are allowed to swap Jeff Green for Kevin Durant!
Paul>Westbrook
Griffin>>>Ibaka
DJ>>>>>Perkins
Crawford>Martin
Butler/Barnes/Hill>Thabo/Liggins
Bledsoe>any OKC backup PG
Odom>any OKC backup PF
Turiaf/Hollins>Thabeet

Westbrook has Durant, Paul has advantages everywhere else. You are on crack if you think Westbrook has a better supporting CAST, supporting PLAYER maybe, but not a ****in CAST. Most would agree.

How about you take back Perkins along with Ibaka, Martin and Thabo and give us KG, Lee, Green, Bradley. OKC has an amazing supporting cast afterall. :oldlol:

[brandonislegend]

Paul>Westbrook
Griffin>>>Ibaka
DJ>>>>>Perkins
Crawford>Martin
Butler/Barnes/Hill>Thabo/Liggins
Bledsoe>any OKC backup PG
Odom>any OKC backup PF
Turiaf/Hollins>Thabeet

Westbrook has Durant, Paul has advantages everywhere else. You are on crack if you think Westbrook has a better supporting CAST, supporting PLAYER maybe, but not a ****in CAST. Most would agree.

How about you take back Perkins along with Ibaka, Martin and Thabo and give us KG, Lee, Green, Bradley. OKC has an amazing supporting cast afterall. :oldlol:

Really you didn't even post Durant, he is a top 2 player in the NBA. It's like LeBron you would take him alone over multiple players. But we can agree to disagree, atleast you are using some logical points and not resorting to personal attacks.... :cheers:

Would be more like this IMO
CP3 >> Westbrook
Griffin <<<<< Durant
DJ <<< Ibaka
Crawford=Martin
Butler/Barnes/Hill>Thabo/Liggins
Bledsoe>any OKC backup PG
Odom>any OKC backup PF
Turiaf/Hollins=Thabeet

[Celtic_Pride]

Paul>Westbrook
Griffin>>>Ibaka
DJ>>>>>Perkins
Crawford>Martin
Butler/Barnes/Hill>Thabo/Liggins
Bledsoe>any OKC backup PG
Odom>any OKC backup PF
Turiaf/Hollins>Thabeet

Westbrook has Durant, Paul has advantages everywhere else. You are on crack if you think Westbrook has a better supporting CAST, supporting PLAYER maybe, but not a ****in CAST. Most would agree.

How about you take back Perkins along with Ibaka, Martin and Thabo and give us KG, Lee, Green, Bradley. OKC has an amazing supporting cast afterall. :oldlol:

You are a fool if you think Paul has better supporting cast than Westbrook. Give Durant, 2 good shooters in Ibaka and Martin to Paul and he will be unstoppable and OKC will be obvious favorites to win it all.

The biggest difference between the 2 is when an offense stagnates, Paul knows what to do and will make something outta nothing. Westbrook on the other hand....

Give Durant to Celtics and you can take all 13 players. That's how good Durant is!

[andremiller07]

Odom>any OKC backup PF


Imo this season Collison > Odom

Odom has been awful this year

[Celtic_Pride]

Would be more like this IMO
CP3 >> Westbrook
Griffin <<<<< Durant
DJ <<< Ibaka
Crawford=Martin
Butler/Barnes/Hill>Thabo/Liggins
Bledsoe>any OKC backup PG
Odom>any OKC backup PF
Turiaf/Hollins=Thabeet

This is way better than what he did..

More importantly, Brooks >> Vinnie!

[Graviton]

Really you didn't even post Durant, he is a top 2 player in the NBA. It's like LeBron you would take him alone over multiple players. But we can agree to disagree, atleast you are using some logical points and not resorting to personal attacks.... :cheers:
Yea, while I kinda hate you, you can be reasonable when you want to.

Though why do you troll Westbrook so hard, I remember before you said he is a great player that should just play SG. But you accepted the fact that OKC's lack of ball handlers puts him in that position. Afterall Durant is even worse than Westbrook when he tries to go Lebron and play PG.

[brandonislegend]

Yea, while I kinda hate you, you can be reasonable when you want to.

Though why do you troll Westbrook so hard, I remember before you said he is a great player that should just play SG. But you accepted the fact that OKC's lack of ball handlers puts him in that position. Afterall Durant is even worse than Westbrook when he tries to go Lebron and play PG.

He would be decent as a SG, the thing is with his EGO he would never let it happen, that even YOU have to admit. That is the problem right there.

And I agree with the Durant part.

[Graviton]

Give Durant to Celtics and you can take all 13 players. That's how good Durant is!
You say that after Durant got so exposed today? :oldlol:

He is not THAT good. He is an amazing scorer, that's it. And the ref help can't be ignored either, even I can't act like it's not true.

Durant isn't a good defender, or rebounder for his size, or a passer/playmaker. His deficiencies may not be exposed vs West teams that play crappy defense. But vs East and especially against Miami you see what Durant brings to the table, just scoring. Can't believe you would trade KG, Rondo, Pierce for Durant. The same group of guys that gave Heat a tougher series and fought hard. All for the guy that was completely exposed in the Finals by the same team as just a one-dimensional scorer.

[brandonislegend]

You say that after Durant got so exposed today? :oldlol:

He is not THAT good. He is an amazing scorer, that's it. And the ref help can't be ignored either, even I can't act like it's not true.

Durant isn't a good defender, or rebounder for his size, or a passer/playmaker. His deficiencies may not be exposed vs West teams that play crappy defense. But vs East and especially against Miami you see what Durant brings to the table, just scoring. Can't believe you would trade KG, Rondo, Pierce for Durant. The same group of guys that gave Heat a tougher series and fought hard. All for the guy that was completely exposed in the Finals by the same team as just a one-dimensional scorer.

He is averaging 51% FG, 90% FT, 2 three pointers made, 29 points, 8 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 1.6 steals, 1.2 blocks on the season man, that is impressive. Top 2 player right now regardless of shitty game today.

[Money 23]

OKC will NEVER win it all with Westbrook. Abysmall IQ, moves 10x faster than he thinks.
Verbatim the truth.

He's dumb as hell. Can't think the game out at all, which is a necessity for a PG. A innate feel for the game, understanding the ebb and flow.

When to take shots, when to distribute, who has it going and when to get them the ball. BE COACHABLE. All things Westbrook is not. His redeeming qualities of athleticism, durability, and streak scoring do not justify all his glaring flaws.

A volume scoring SG who can't shoot, playing PG ... sounds like a GREAT idea.

All that and he has some kind of awkward ghetto social disorder, gets mad and is a pissy little spaz of a teammate, and let's his emotions control him like a female. Plus, his fashion sense is horrendous.

UrkelBrook gonna Urkel.

[brandonislegend]

Verbatim the truth.

He's dumb as hell. Can't think the game out at all, which is a necessity for a PG. A innate feel for the game, understanding the ebb and flow.

When to take shots, when to distribute, who has it going and when to get them the ball. BE COACHABLE. All things Westbrook is not. His redeeming qualities of athleticism, durability, and streak scoring do not justify all his glaring flaws.

A volume scoring SG who can't shoot, playing PG ... sounds like a GREAT idea.

All that and he has some kind of awkward ghetto social disorder, gets mad and is a pissy little spaz of a teammate, and let's his emotions control him like a female. Plus, his fashion sense is horrendous.

UrkelBrook gonna Urkel.

YP

[imdaman99]

goatbrook still on their minds :bowdown:

[Greg Oden 50]

goatbrook still on their minds :bowdown:

lol :biggums:

[Baller1986]

In the last 2 months. He's averaging 25.3 ppg on 50 FG%, 6 apg, 5 rpg, and 1.7 spg in 21 games.

[dunksby]

In the last 2 months. He's averaging 25.3 ppg on 50 FG%, 6 apg, 5 rpg, and 1.7 spg in 21 games.
Easily the best PG in the league. :bowdown:

[brandonislegend]

I don't think anyone in this thread is arguing the numbers.

[Suckafree]

I don't think anyone in this thread is arguing the numbers.

Exactly. he can have 35/8/6 and still lose you the game.

And in his time in the league, I haven't seen enough improvement in his attitude to suggest that he will grow out of his knucklehead ways

[tomtucker]

still better then steve blake......

[gengiskhan]

still better then steve blake......

& better than Kobe bryant.....

[red1]

Easily the best PG in the league. :bowdown:
no doubt

[SilkkTheShocker]

No team will win anything with Westbrick starting. The guy has the lowest IQ in the league.

[NugzFan]

how come no mention of westbrook pulling a jrsmith...

ibaka goes down bleeding and westbrook just keeps playing and almost jumps over him. :facepalm

[brandonislegend]

:roll:

[whippyAU]

Such a waste of a player, he has the gifts to be amazing...

[Graviton]

:roll:
Finally he has a bad game in 2 months and you get to bump, I was starting to worry about your mental health if he didn't.

Can't be mad about this one though, was in Memphis on a B2B after losing to Denver in a high pace game. Tonight everyone played like Westbricks, including the opposing team. Both squads shot 35%, at least Westbrook made 4 clutch free throws that coulda won the game in regulation, plus the last shot in OT to put them up by 1 til the Gasol tip in.

He has still played better than Durant since the All-Star break and carried the team. They just gotta work on their horrible hot potato ISO ball in the clutch. And kill Perkins/Fisher.

[Budadiiii]

Such a waste of a player, he has the gifts to be amazing...
I can't refrain from ignorant posts like that.

You think this guy is some sort of natural god like talent? He has worked his ass off for what he has.

The guy couldn't dunk until his senior year in high school, and today he is considered one of the best dunkers in the league.

He was born with relatively average basketball skills, and has been relentlessly working his whole life to be in his position.

Has the gifts to be amazing? Waste of a player? Shut the **** up.

[Budadiiii]

:roll:
I'm still laughing at him absolutely shitting on the Lakers a couple weeks ago.

He crushed your soul Mr. 2ppg :roll:

[dunksby]

Trolls are so predictable...

[imnew09]

GoatBrook is good yo, without him Thunders wont even make it to the playoff... yea I exaggerated abit

I would love to have Goatbrook on the Lakers tho :rockon:

[brandonislegend]

http://i.minus.com/ibdb7yT6EgwuFW.gif

[mjokc]

http://i.minus.com/ibdb7yT6EgwuFW.gif

Your hate for Russel Westbrook is palpable.

[imdaman99]

goatbrook keeps trolls up at night :rockon:

[nycjeff45]

with his age,dude got massive upside ...some just develope the mental game later

[willds09]

He must be on some crack type steroids for him to not miss a game yet, something doest seem right:confusedshrug: