Magic and Skip say Jordan would beat Lebron 10 out of 10 one v one

[Kingwillball]

Hello.. Wake the F@ck up.. Listen I have seen Jordan throughout his career and I know how Great he is but Lebron is bigger, Stronger and Just as Fast and Athletic. Am I saying Lebron could beat Prime Jordan every time no, but it would probably be 50/50 at least. This Lebron can shoot over him Consistently and back U down or Bull his way past ya. Jordan would have to Rely alot more on that Fadeaway to create Space on the Bigger Longer Lebron. Anyway real point is Media is running out of things to criticize Lebron about so not have to knock him i Imaginary one v one games and not competing in the dunk contest.

[cotdt]

MJ would beat LJ 10 out of 10 times in the dunk contest.

[LikeABosh]

:oldlol: That is just ridiculous. Not even gonna get into this, but if people actually think Jordan would beat Lebron 100% of the time :facepalm

[secund2nun]

Lebron would post up Jordan all day and overpower him.

[KyrieTheFuture]

100% is quite laughable but MJ would win 8 probably. You guys don't understand that when Jordan refuses to lose, he will not lose.

[Ancient Legend]

Jordan would win 7 out of 10. He is definitely a better 1v1 player than Bron. His post moves alone are mind boggling and he did different stuff everytime.

[scandisk_]

MJ turnin 50, LeBron playing out of his mind. This shit ain't goin to stop :oldlol:

The Media mang! the media!

[Mr Exlax]

Do any of you guys remember when Jordan lost a 1 on 1 game to Michael Finley back in the day?

[TheMan]

:oldlol: That is just ridiculous. Not even gonna get into this, but if people actually think Jordan would beat Lebron 100% of the time :facepalm
I agree, MJ beats LBJ 9/10.

Just the superior player:confusedshrug:

[TheMan]

Do any of you guys remember when Jordan lost a 1 on 1 game to Michael Finley back in the day?
Do you remember when Jason Terry punked Bron in the Finals? Or when an unknown kid dunked on Bron so bad he had his posse confiscate the evidence?

Thought so.

[Mr Exlax]

Do you remember when Jason Terry punked Bron in the Finals? Or when an unknown kid dunked on Bron so bad he had his posse confiscate the evidence?

Thought so.

I don't remember Jason Terry "punking" Lebron James in the Finals. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "punking" him? I remember the kid dunking on Lebron. I don't really care how bad the dunk was. It happens when you play with athletes. I still don't understand why they made such a big deal about it. I don't know what you meant by "thought so".

[jstern]

Kobe says that he and Jordan are the best one on one player of all time, and that Lebron is a more of a Magic Johnson type of player and has no chance against him one on one. They're looking at it in the one on one concept.

[lefthook00]

Look, MJ is not Kobe. He is a stronger, faster version of him. Just like what MJ said when he was asked about playing Kobe 1v1, "I would have a better chance of stopping him than he would have stopping me." Same thing goes for MJ vs LBJ.

[TylerOO]

People love to act like old times were better. Talk to older people like Magic and Skip and they will think everything in their time was better. LeBron would be Jordan 7 out of 10. LeBron is too big and strong.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Junk removed

[Kingwillball]

Kobe says that he and Jordan are the best one on one player of all time, and that Lebron is a more of a Magic Johnson type of player and has no chance against him one on one. They're looking at it in the one on one concept.


Kobe Still thinks he Could beat Lebron Now one v 1 or at least tells Media I think Lebron would beat if not Destroy Kobe one v 1..Since Kobe is the Closest thing to Jordan Tells me Lebron would at least hang in there with Jordan.

[Remix]

MJ would win 8 or 9 times out of 10. Like above poster said, MJ refuses to lose. He would get physical with Bron and wouldn't allow him to just back him down in the paint.

Offensively, with a whole court to himself MJ's first step, quickness, and handles would be tough for Lebron to handle. MJ would get up a lot of midrange shots.

[tmacattack33]

MJ would probably win like 7 times out of 10.

But that obviously has nothing to do with 5 on 5 basketball, where passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding (there's obviously rebounding in one on one but it's different) come into play.

And passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding are three areas where Lebron wins over MJ.

[tikay0]

If a 34 year old Kobe Bryant can still put up a fight against Lebron and Wade, what in the blue hell makes you think a PRIME Jordan couldn't beat Lebron 1 on 1???

[Mr. Jabbar]

Jordan would humiliate Lebron in a fashion even I wouldn't approve :no:

[Da KO King]

Unless you played with some Jordan-friendly rules that state no backing down allowed LeBron wins EVERY game. He's 6'9" 250-260lbs. Jordan at his biggest was 6'6" 220lbs.

[tikay0]

MJ would probably win like 7 times out of 10.

But that obviously has nothing to do with 5 on 5 basketball, where passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding (there's obviously rebounding in one on one but it's different) come into play.

And passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding are three areas where Lebron wins over MJ.

Lebron doesn't have better defensive versatility. In MJ's DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD year, he was playing passing lanes, best perimiter man to man defense in the history of the NBA, and could come from the weak side and block the shit outta the ball.

Tell me exactly what Lebron does better than Jordan on the defensive end? He's too big, and doesn't have the foot coordination of a Jordan to be as elite as him, on a 1 on 1 defensive basis.

When Jordan was called upon to assume Lebron's position, ball dominant distributor, he posted up better numbers than Lebron could ever dream of. When Lebron tried to play off ball like MJ, oh wait, he tried that, and it failed miserably. LBJ HAS TO BE BALL DOMINANT in order to be successful. He has no clue what he's doing off the ball, besides an alley oop, here and there.

You just fail.

[TheMan]

I don't remember Jason Terry "punking" Lebron James in the Finals. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "punking" him? I remember the kid dunking on Lebron. I don't really care how bad the dunk was. It happens when you play with athletes. I still don't understand why they made such a big deal about it. I don't know what you meant by "thought so".
Google Jason Terry trash talk LeBron James and refresh your memory by watching the YouTube video of Terry knocking down a dagger three in James face...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

MJ should swallow his pride and take on the king 1on1 this all-star weekend. maybe best out of 3? if mj could take at least one @50, i'm pretty sure that this convo would be squashed.

[lilgodfather1]

Anytime someone agrees with Skip Bayless about anything, they lose all credibility. I don't care if Skip Bayless brought up the wiki page proving that grass is green, he is still wrong that is how wrong Skip Bayless always is.

Besides MJ already said LeBron is better than he is.

[Whoah10115]

MJ would probably win like 7 times out of 10.

But that obviously has nothing to do with 5 on 5 basketball, where passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding (there's obviously rebounding in one on one but it's different) come into play.

And passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding are three areas where Lebron wins over MJ.



James is a better help defender than Jordan? :roll:


Rebounding is down more to position. Per position, Lebron is not a better rebounder than Michael is.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I don't remember Jason Terry "punking" Lebron James in the Finals. Can you elaborate on what you mean by "punking" him? I remember the kid dunking on Lebron. I don't really care how bad the dunk was. It happens when you play with athletes. I still don't understand why they made such a big deal about it. I don't know what you meant by "thought so".


maybe this is what he was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMY6cqd8al0

or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuheUeZ7BYQ

[Kingwillball]

Lebron doesn't have better defensive versatility. In MJ's DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD year, he was playing passing lanes, best perimiter man to man defense in the history of the NBA, and could come from the weak side and block the shit outta the ball.

Tell me exactly what Lebron does better than Jordan on the defensive end? He's too big, and doesn't have the foot coordination of a Jordan to be as elite as him, on a 1 on 1 defensive basis.

When Jordan was called upon to assume Lebron's position, ball dominant distributor, he posted up better numbers than Lebron could ever dream of. When Lebron tried to play off ball like MJ, oh wait, he tried that, and it failed miserably. LBJ HAS TO BE BALL DOMINANT in order to be successful. He has no clue what he's doing off the ball, besides an alley oop, here and there.

You just fail.


Your a Jordan/ Bulls homer so your just a tad biased. The fact that people even compare or talk Lebron in same sentence as Jordan shows how Elite Lebron is and his career is probably half over. Lets revisit this topic 5 years from now I bet a lot of people who didn't give Lebron chance will say something different if Lebron wins a few more championships and MVPs

[TheMarkMadsen]

Your a Jordan/ Bulls homer so your just a tad biased. The fact that people even compare or talk Lebron in same sentence as Jordan shows how Elite Lebron is and his career is probably half over. Lets revisit this topic 5 years from now I bet a lot of people who didn't give Lebron chance will say something different if Lebron wins a few more championships and MVPs


You're a poster who created his account & named it after Lebron, and who's avatar is a picture of Lebron..

uhh you may be just a tad biased :lol

[tikay0]

You're a poster who created his account & named it after Lebron, and who's avatar is a picture of Lebron..

uhh you may be just a tad biased :lol

Pot calling kettle....you the know the rest. :oldlol:

[Segatti]

Who the **** cares about 1v1?

[Doranku]

It would be a stalemate. Whenever LeBron gets the ball, he'd just dribble around forever because he'd never be able to get a high percentage look against MJ's defense to justify jeopardizing his FG%.

[tmacattack33]

Lebron doesn't have better defensive versatility. In MJ's DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD year, he was playing passing lanes, best perimiter man to man defense in the history of the NBA, and could come from the weak side and block the shit outta the ball.

Tell me exactly what Lebron does better than Jordan on the defensive end? He's too big, and doesn't have the foot coordination of a Jordan to be as elite as him, on a 1 on 1 defensive basis.

When Jordan was called upon to assume Lebron's position, ball dominant distributor, he posted up better numbers than Lebron could ever dream of. When Lebron tried to play off ball like MJ, oh wait, he tried that, and it failed miserably. LBJ HAS TO BE BALL DOMINANT in order to be successful. He has no clue what he's doing off the ball, besides an alley oop, here and there.

You just fail.

Yes he does. Defensive versatility = ability to guard multiple positions. Lebron has defended (and has been successful) guarding players from Derrick Rose to Pau Gasol. MJ would not be able to guard Pau Gasol near the basket. GTFOH.

Lebron's defensive versatility is matched by only a few players...Dennis Rodman is one. I can't even think of another. Maybe Pippen.

[NumberSix]

Didn't Jerry Stackhouse beat MJ 1on1? Lol.

[brandonislegend]

MJ would probably win like 7 times out of 10.

But that obviously has nothing to do with 5 on 5 basketball, where passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding (there's obviously rebounding in one on one but it's different) come into play.

And passing, help defense, defensive versatility, and rebounding are three areas where Lebron wins over MJ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

[SilkkTheShocker]

You're a poster who created his account & named it after Lebron, and who's avatar is a picture of Lebron..

uhh you may be just a tad biased :lol


LOL this f.aggot is so pissed LeBron>>>>>Kobe :oldlol: :oldlol:

[TheMan]

Didn't Jerry Stackhouse beat MJ 1on1? Lol.
Didn't LBJ get dunked on by a HS kid? Lol.

[LikeABosh]

Didn't LBJ get dunked on by a HS kid? Lol.
Very relevant to the discussion

[SilkkTheShocker]

Didn't LBJ get dunked on by a HS kid? Lol.


Didn't Jordan get his dad killed because of gambling debts?

[tikay0]

Yes he does. Defensive versatility = ability to guard multiple positions. Lebron has defended (and has been successful) guarding players from Derrick Rose to Pau Gasol. MJ would not be able to guard Pau Gasol near the basket. GTFOH.

Lebron's defensive versatility is matched by only a few players...Dennis Rodman is one. I can't even think of another. Maybe Pippen.

Ummm....he gaurded Pau Gasol for like 3 possessions. The ability to guard a player for a few possesions don't necessarily mean you can guard that position.

Tell me when he consistently guards the opposing team's big men. HE HASN'T.

That's the biggest myth that BSPN has put out there.

Yes, technically he can guard all 5 positions, but that doesn't mean he's effective at it.

Magic Johnson played center for a game in the Finals. Does that make him one of the great centers of all time?

Floyd Mayweather can fight the Klitschko brothers, does it mean he'll be effective?

Edit: Rodman and Pippen are MUCH better defenders than Lebron.

:biggums: :wtf: :facepalm

[LikeABosh]

Ummm....he gaurded Pau Gasol for like 3 possessions. The ability to guard a player for a few possesions don't necessarily mean you can guard that position.

Tell me when he consistently guards the opposing team's big men. HE HASN'T.

That's the biggest myth that BSPN has put out there.

Yes, technically he can guard all 5 positions, but that doesn't mean he's effective at it.

Magic Johnson played center for a game in the Finals. Does that make him one of the great centers of all time?

Floyd Mayweather can fight the Klitschko brothers, does it mean he'll be effective?
Lebron guards 1-4 all the ****ing time. Watch some Heat game dumbass

[TheMan]

Didn't Jordan get his dad killed because of gambling debts?
Didn't Delonte West fckk LBJ's mom?

[Rysio]

i really hate to disagree with magic and skip right here but lebron would quit after the very first game.

[LikeABosh]

Didn't Delonte West fckk LBJ's mom?
Very relevant again. :rolleyes:

[tikay0]

Lebron guards 1-4 all the ****ing time. Watch some Heat game dumbass

He guards a SF for the majority of the game, then guards a PG/PF when the defensive rotation calls for it. He doesn't start out guarding the 1-5.

"DUMB ASS"

And please don't give me the "he guards Rose!" BS. He guards him at the very end of games, for like 2 possessions, and the media creams their pants over it.

[jstern]

Kobe Still thinks he Could beat Lebron Now one v 1 or at least tells Media I think Lebron would beat if not Destroy Kobe one v 1..Since Kobe is the Closest thing to Jordan Tells me Lebron would at least hang in there with Jordan.

Remember also that at 49 Jordan is still beating current NBA players one on one.

[SilkkTheShocker]

He guards a SF for the majority of the game, then guards a PG/PF when the defensive rotation calls for it. He doesn't start out guarding the 1-5.

"DUMB ASS"

And please don't give me the "he guards Rose!" BS. He guards him at the very end of games, for like 2 possessions, and the media creams their pants over it.


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[TheMan]

Ummm....he gaurded Pau Gasol for like 3 possessions. The ability to guard a player for a few possesions don't necessarily mean you can guard that position.

Tell me when he consistently guards the opposing team's big men. HE HASN'T.

That's the biggest myth that BSPN has put out there.

Yes, technically he can guard all 5 positions, but that doesn't mean he's effective at it.

Magic Johnson played center for a game in the Finals. Does that make him one of the great centers of all time?

Floyd Mayweather can fight the Klitschko brothers, does it mean he'll be effective?

Edit: Rodman and Pippen are MUCH better defenders than Lebron.

:biggums: :wtf: :facepalm
[quote]In game 6, Magic Johnson played what may have been the greatest game of his career. Playing on the road in Philadelphia, Magic (a 6'9" point guard) started the game at center and eventually played all 5 positions in a dominating performance. Scoring a game-high 42 points and grabbing a game-high 15 rebounds

[LikeABosh]

He guards a SF for the majority of the game, then guards a PG/PF when the defensive rotation calls for it. He doesn't start out guarding the 1-5.

"DUMB ASS"

And please don't give me the "he guards Rose!" BS. He guards him at the very end of games, for like 2 possessions, and the media creams their pants over it.
Rose shot 1 for 15 while guarded by Lebron in the last 2 games of the series

[tikay0]

Rose shot 1 for 15 while guarded by Lebron in the last 2 games of the series

THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. The defensive rotations the Heat were throwing SOLELY at Rose were amazingly fast. AKA, they loaded up on Rose.

I'll give you guys credit. Your defensive rotations are something to marvel at.

[TheMan]

Rose shot 1 for 15 while guarded by Lebron in the last 2 games of the series
Rose shot horribly the whole series though. As a Bulls fan, those are growing pains for a youngster like Rose. LBJ, regarded as the best player in the game the last few years, had to wait almost a decade to get his first NBA title.

[Kingwillball]

Remember also that at 49 Jordan is still beating current NBA players one on one.


If he played Lebron Right now LEbron would Dismantle him if not for the fact Lebron is too nice of a guy and would not do that to one of his biggest Idols. I bet Lebron is Secretly hurt by Jordan's recent statements but it also should fuel him to keep being Great and keep on winning.

[LikeABosh]

THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. The defensive rotations the Heat were throwing SOLELY at Rose were amazingly fast. AKA, they loaded up on Rose.

I'll give you guys credit. Your defensive rotations are something to marvel at.
GTFO of here. First you say Lebron only guarded Rose for "like 2 possesion" now you say Rose shot so badly only because of a "team effort" Rewatch those games if you want, Rose was helpless while Lebron was on him. Couldn't get around him, struggled to even get passes of. Lebron tore Rose a new asshole. Get over it.

[tikay0]

If he played Lebron Right now LEbron would Dismantle him if not for the fact Lebron is too nice of a guy and would not do that to one of his biggest Idols. I bet Lebron is Secretly hurt by Jordan's recent statements but it also should fuel him to keep being Great and keep on winning.

Did you even hear the full context of the interview? He never even said Kobe was the better player. He said, right now, I take Lebron, he's been the most dominant player in the game. As for their careers, gotta go with Kobe, because of the rings. The media is just hyping that interview up.

[LikeABosh]

Rose shot horribly the whole series though. As a Bulls fan, those are growing pains for a youngster like Rose. LBJ, regarded as the best player in the game the last few years, had to wait almost a decade to get his first NBA title.
The league MVP, lightning quick point guard, who gets to the basket at will shoots 1 for 15 vs Lebron and it's growing pains? :roll:

[Kingwillball]

Rose shot horribly the whole series though. As a Bulls fan, those are growing pains for a youngster like Rose. LBJ, regarded as the best player in the game the last few years, had to wait almost a decade to get his first NBA title.


And just like your Idol Jordan this could be the Beginning of the end for the rest of the league for years to come. Lebron might win the next 4 or 5 in a row now that he knows what it takes and knows he is the best in the game just like MJ. Knowing He will be judged by Titles will Fuel Lebron to keep being great and hungry.

[tikay0]

GTFO of here. First you say Lebron only guarded Rose for "like 2 possesion" now you say Rose shot so badly only because of a "team effort" Rewatch those games if you want, Rose was helpless while Lebron was on him. Couldn't get around him, struggled to even get passes of. Lebron tore Rose a new asshole. Get over it.

Rose, ONLY PLAYER ABLE TO CREATE HIS OWN OFFENSE ON COURT. HENCE, USED UP LIKE AN OLD SOCK BY THE ECF.

Lebron, WADE AND BOSH TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIM. HENCE, HE'S A LITTLE BITCH WITH 2 OTHER STARS HAVING HIS BACK.

:facepalm

[livinglegend]

The Bulls and Celtics fans will always be butthurt because of what has been happening to them last 2 years.

[tikay0]

And just like your Idol Jordan this could be the Beginning of the end for the rest of the league for years to come. Lebron might win the next 4 or 5 in a row now that he knows what it takes and knows he is the best in the game just like MJ. Knowing He will be judged by Titles will Fuel Lebron to keep being great and hungry.

The only thing that fuels Lebron is by having people love him, and having all the media attention.

He aint no hungry, killer like you guys dream he'd be.

STOP IT. :no:

[TheMan]

THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT. The defensive rotations the Heat were throwing SOLELY at Rose were amazingly fast. AKA, they loaded up on Rose.

I'll give you guys credit. Your defensive rotations are something to marvel at.
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The Heat's whole focus was on Rose. Pretty tough to beat a team when all their focus is on one player and nobody else could create their own shot to lessen the load. LBJ fans should know this, LBJ was owned by the Spurs in 07. Part of the reason LBJ hooked with Wade, he needed someone else who could burden some of the load.

Rose needs to get his 'Wade', per s

[Whoah10115]

Lebron can guard 1-3 and some 4's. He cannot guard Gasol with regularity...at least not when Gasol played like he had balls.


Shane Battier was the Heat's PF early in the season. Lebron was not playing PF. He was playing his position and making up for the rebounding issues. But he was not playing PF, nor was he guarding the other PF. Shane Battier is a 3 who can play some 2 and not a PF. He was literally getting abused early in the season and Lebron was playing the 3. That's not to say Lebron was selfish or that he should have guarded the opposing 4's. But he didn't, despite him being much better suited to guarding 4's than Battier is. Lebron has the body for anyone. He wasn't guarding 4's because it's not his game. He can tho, if he's asked too. But it's exaggerated when people say he does it game to game.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Rose, ONLY PLAYER ABLE TO CREATE HIS OWN OFFENSE ON COURT. HENCE, USED UP LIKE AN OLD SOCK BY THE ECF.

Lebron, WADE AND BOSH TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIM. HENCE, HE'S A LITTLE BITCH WITH 2 OTHER STARS HAVING HIS BACK.

:facepalm


so Rose was the only guy that could create his own shot, yet you fail to mention LeBron was the only guy who could create his own shot in the 09 ECF. :oldlol:

[Kingwillball]

Did you even hear the full context of the interview? He never even said Kobe was the better player. He said, right now, I take Lebron, he's been the most dominant player in the game. As for their careers, gotta go with Kobe, because of the rings. The media is just hyping that interview up.


Yeah I heard that part but also heard comments of saying only 4 players would be successful in yesterdays NBA. He also said Lebron would NOT be as Dominant and almost Laughed at notion of Lebron being compared to Oscar Robertson. MJ is still the GOAT however I think all the Lebron talk and Hype has made him a bit uneasy thus needing to knock him down a peg or two to make himself look and feel better. I grew up watching MJ and that NBA and I know Lebron would be just as good than that he is now.

[tikay0]

so Rose was the only guy that could create his own shot, yet you fail to mention LeBron was the only guy who could create his own shot in the 09 ECF. :oldlol:

AGAINST THE MAGIC!!! BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

AND THEY LOST! :applause:

[tikay0]

Yeah I heard that part but also heard comments of saying only 4 players would be successful in yesterdays NBA. He also said Lebron would NOT be as Dominant and almost Laughed at notion of Lebron being compared to Oscar Robertson. MJ is still the GOAT however I think all the Lebron talk and Hype has made him a bit uneasy thus needing to knock him down a peg or two to make himself look and feel better. I grew up watching MJ and that NBA and I know Lebron would be just as good than that he is now.

Fair enough, but the way you come at people, make it seem like you think LBJ would dominate Kareem/MJ/Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt all in one night.

Just tone it down a bit with the over bearing LBJ homerism.

[Kingwillball]

Fair enough, but the way you come at people, make it seem like you think LBJ would dominate Kareem/MJ/Hakeem/Shaq/Wilt all in one night.

Just tone it down a bit with the over bearing LBJ homerism.


I hear ya but some of these Kobe stand/Lebron Haters make me get that level at times.

[TheMan]

The league MVP, lightning quick point guard, who gets to the basket at will shoots 1 for 15 vs Lebron and it's growing pains? :roll:
Well, he did hurt his ankle during the Pacers series that slowed him down. Didn't LBJ complain about his elbow during the Celtics series he lost? If LBJ can use that as an excuse, I see no reason why Rose shouldn't also (he hasn't).

I will absolutly say growing pains, we all here cut LBJ some slack for his performance against the Spurs in 07, he was a young guy first time that deep in the playoffs vs a veteran team. Or would you perfer us to say LBJ has laid in egg twice in the Finals and come up big once?

Most people here cut LBJ some slack for 07, (youth, inexperience, overmatched) even though he stunk.

[tikay0]

I hear ya but some of these Kobe stand/Lebron Haters make me get that level at times.

Yeah, same here. The Rose haters get me to my boiling point too.

[SilkkTheShocker]

AGAINST THE MAGIC!!! BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

AND THEY LOST! :applause:


Whats it matter if it was against the Magic? They had the next best 3 players after Lebron in the series. Finally you admit that Cleveland team had no shot creators

[Dragonyeuw]

Depends on a few things:

- Game rules. Make it, take it? This is the kind of game that could come down to who misses first

- Can Lebron handle Jordan's offensive versatility? Is Jordan strong enough to prevent Lebron from backing him down and bulldozing him to the rim?

- Who's 'hot' at that given moment. Lebron is literally impossible to guard if his jumpshot is on. Jordan has more offensive weapons that can be employed in a one on one scenario.

I'd take MJ, but 10 out f 10 is insanity. 6/10, max 7/10, is the absolute best case scenario.

[tikay0]

Whats it matter if it was against the Magic? They had the next best 3 players after Lebron in the series. Finally you admit that Cleveland team had no shot creators

Dwight, who wasn;t guarding Lebron 1 on 1. Rashard Lewis? Hedo? Nelson?

:lol

Rashard Lewis is such a nightmare defender!!!

Also, their team defense was only good, because of the rim protection. Lebron didn't have resistance leading up the rim, only at the rim. In which he got a shit ton of foul calls.

I remember Dwight being in foul trouble early as hell in those games.

[3peated]

lebron isnt even that great of an iso player

[TheMan]

so Rose was the only guy that could create his own shot, yet you fail to mention LeBron was the only guy who could create his own shot in the 09 ECF. :oldlol:
Silk, thanks for making our point for us, lol.
You try putting Rose down so much it's not funny ...You have Rose on one side with nobody else with him that can create their own shot. On the Heat you have LBJ and Wade, plus an All Star PF. We were outgunned and a 22/23 year old wasn't going to beat by himself a Heat team with their best players in their prime.

It was still a close series even though it was 4-1 because 3 of your wins came down to the last minutes of the game.

[tikay0]

Silk, thanks for making our point for us, lol.
You try putting Rose down so much it's not funny ...You have Rose on one side with nobody else with him that can create their own shot. On the Heat you have LBJ and Wade, plus an All Star PF. We were outgunned and a 22/23 year old wasn't going to beat by himself a Heat team with their best players in their prime.

It was still a close series even though it was 4-1 because 3 of your wins came down to the last minutes of the game.

:applause:

[Mr Exlax]

Google Jason Terry trash talk LeBron James and refresh your memory by watching the YouTube video of Terry knocking down a dagger three in James face...

So "punking" him is trash talking and hitting a shot? A scorer scores and talks some trash and that's punking him? What was Lebron supposed to do? Punch him or something? As far as him hitting a shot, I don't know if you never seen it before, but players hit shots all the time. :biggums:

[LikeABosh]

Well, he did hurt his ankle during the Pacers series that slowed him down. Didn't LBJ complain about his elbow during the Celtics series he lost? If LBJ can use that as an excuse, I see no reason why Rose shouldn't also (he hasn't).

I will absolutly say growing pains, we all here cut LBJ some slack for his performance against the Spurs in 07, he was a young guy first time that deep in the playoffs vs a veteran team. Or would you perfer us to say LBJ has laid in egg twice in the Finals and come up big once?

Most people here cut LBJ some slack for 07, (youth, inexperience, overmatched) even though he stunk.
None of this is relevant. I said Lebron can guard 1-4's well and some guy goes and says he can't and says Lebron never shut down Rose "he only guarded him a few possessions" So I simply told him he held Rose to 1-15 shooting

[Mr Exlax]

Dwight, who wasn;t guarding Lebron 1 on 1. Rashard Lewis? Hedo? Nelson?

:lol

Rashard Lewis is such a nightmare defender!!!

Also, their team defense was only good, because of the rim protection. Lebron didn't have resistance leading up the rim, only at the rim. In which he got a shit ton of foul calls.

I remember Dwight being in foul trouble early as hell in those games.


So wait wait wait, are you saying they lost that series because of Lebron?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

So "punking" him is trash talking and hitting a shot? A scorer scores and talks some trash and that's punking him? What was Lebron supposed to do? Punch him or something? As far as him hitting a shot, I don't know if you never seen it before, but players hit shots all the time. :biggums:
on the basketball court, sure, why not? this isn't ufc we're talking about tough guy.

[TheMan]

So "punking" him is trash talking and hitting a shot? A scorer scores and talks some trash and that's punking him? What was Lebron supposed to do? Punch him or something? As far as him hitting a shot, I don't know if you never seen it before, but players hit shots all the time. :biggums:
Jason Terry outscored him in the Finals...in no universe should Terry out score the best player in the league. Would Terry out score Jordan in a Finals series.

Thought so...

[Mr Exlax]

on the basketball court, sure, why not? this isn't ufc we're talking about tough guy.

So you can punk somebody by hitting a shot and talking some trash? You do know that happens all game every game right? It's part of basketball. That ain't punking him IMO. I could see if he hit him with a cheap shot and they had words and he backed down then yeah he punked him. Hitting a shot and talking trash. That's basketball.

[Mr Exlax]

Jason Terry outscored him in the Finals...in no universe should Terry out score the best player in the league. Would Terry out score Jordan in a Finals series.

Thought so...

Jason Terry comes in to shoot. Was Jason Terry sent in to run the offense and all that? Was he the defensive anchor for Dallas? Did the Heat owners and players come out and say their main objective on defense was to stop Jason Terry bro? Come on man. You have Scottie Pippen as your avatar bro. Act like you know basketball please bro. Don't rep Scottie like that. Act like you have a basketball mind man please.

[TheMan]

Jason Terry comes in to shoot. Was Jason Terry sent in to run the offense and all that? Was he the defensive anchor for Dallas? Did the Heat owners and players come out and say their main objective on defense was to stop Jason Terry bro? Come on man. You have Scottie Pippen as your avatar bro. Act like you know basketball please bro. Don't rep Scottie like that. Act like you have a basketball mind man please.
Dude, LBJ is the Heat's best offensive player and their biggest mismatch on offense, HE SHOULD NOT GET OUTSCORED BY A SUB NO MATTER HOW MUCH THAT SUB JACKS UP SHOTS!!!!

You're the only one who seems baffled by this concept.

[Swaggin916]

Lebron could beat him... but Jordan would have the mental advantage and that's a lot of the battle especially in one on one.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

So you can punk somebody by hitting a shot and talking some trash? You do know that happens all game every game right? It's part of basketball. That ain't punking him IMO. I could see if he hit him with a cheap shot and they had words and he backed down then yeah he punked him. Hitting a shot and talking trash. That's basketball.
again, this isn't the ufc. i agree, it is basketball, but if you were going to use the term punk in a basketball game....it would be talking trash then hitting big shots in their face.

[TheMan]

again, this isn't the ufc. i agree, it is basketball, but if you were going to use the term punk in a basketball game....it would be talking trash then hitting big shots in their face.
^^^this man gets it...da fuq is that guy talking about punching someone in hoops and calling it "punking someone", it's hoops fer fuqs sake:facepalm

[Mr Exlax]

again, this isn't the ufc. i agree, it is basketball, but if you were going to use the term punk in a basketball game....it would be talking trash then hitting big shots in their face.

In all my years of playing basketball I've NEVER heard the term of punking somebody as hitting a shot in their face and talking shit. I've NEVER heard ANYBODY say that's punking somebody. We don't do that shit in the south.

[tmacattack33]

Ummm....he gaurded Pau Gasol for like 3 possessions. The ability to guard a player for a few possesions don't necessarily mean you can guard that position.

Tell me when he consistently guards the opposing team's big men. HE HASN'T.

That's the biggest myth that BSPN has put out there.

Yes, technically he can guard all 5 positions, but that doesn't mean he's effective at it.

Magic Johnson played center for a game in the Finals. Does that make him one of the great centers of all time?

Floyd Mayweather can fight the Klitschko brothers, does it mean he'll be effective?

Edit: Rodman and Pippen are MUCH better defenders than Lebron.

:biggums: :wtf: :facepalm

He played center for two games for Cleveland. One was on Tyson chandler and he did fine. Chandlers no beast in the post, but no average sf would be as to guard him for a whole game.

Also, Lebron plays the 4 a lot for Miami.

Also, there are things called rotations, fast breaks, and pick and rolls where players end up on people who they aren't normally guarding. Lebron can switch out onto anyone on the floor 95% of the time and its not a mismatch. Because he can guard Westbrook, D rose, Paul pierce, serve ibaka, or Tyson chandler.
.

[Mr Exlax]

Dude, LBJ is the Heat's best offensive player and their biggest mismatch on offense, HE SHOULD NOT GET OUTSCORED BY A SUB NO MATTER HOW MUCH THAT SUB JACKS UP SHOTS!!!!

You're the only one who seems baffled by this concept.


The whole team was geard towards stopping Lebron James. Not the Miami Heat. LEBRON JAMES. You should check out the game footage and listen to Mark Cuban explaint the defensive scheme they ran on Lebron. It was a thing of beauty.

[jstern]

If he played Lebron Right now LEbron would Dismantle him if not for the fact Lebron is too nice of a guy and would not do that to one of his biggest Idols. I bet Lebron is Secretly hurt by Jordan's recent statements but it also should fuel him to keep being Great and keep on winning.
Obviously, Lebron is unbelievable and Jordan is 49, but the point is that it shows how strong of a one on one player Jordan is that he still beats current NBA players who are in the best shape of their lives, so the point of my comment was, "Imagine prime Jordan then." Jordan would be shit if came back to the NBA at the age of 50 probably even compared to the current players he's beating one on one, but one on one is a completely different game is the point, so you just can't judge it by the physical look of the players.

[TheMan]

The whole team was geard towards stopping Lebron James. Not the Miami Heat. LEBRON JAMES. You should check out the game footage and listen to Mark Cuban explaint the defensive scheme they ran on Lebron. It was a thing of beauty.
No shit, Sherlock. The best player on a team usually gets the most attention defensively from the opposing team.

[Mr Exlax]

No shit, Sherlock. The best player on a team usually gets the most attention defensively from the opposing team.

Did you listen to Mark Cuban break down the defense they ran against him? I would imagine the shots that Jason Terry got were a hell of a lot easier to get off than the shots Lebron took.

[JellyBean]

These debates are pointless but I do think that Jordan would beat Lebrn 8 out of 10 games. If they played 1 v 1, Jordan would get those 8 wins. We can't kid ourselvs. Those of us that have see Jordan play know what he was capable of doing. And how he would use any defeat, slight, or negative comment to motivate himself. Once Lebron won a game, it would have been all out warfare on that court. You guys forget, Jordan kept a dunklist while in college, of players that he just had o dunk on....just for fun. And that killer instinct that Jordan had. Jordan in his prime would get 8 out of 10 wins against Lebron.

[NumberSix]

These debates are pointless but I do think that Jordan would beat Lebrn 8 out of 10 games. If they played 1 v 1, Jordan would get those 8 wins. We can't kid ourselvs. Those of us that have see Jordan play know what he was capable of doing. And how he would use any defeat, slight, or negative comment to motivate himself. Once Lebron won a game, it would have been all out warfare on that court. You guys forget, Jordan kept a dunklist while in college, of players that he just had o dunk on....just for fun. And that killer instinct that Jordan had. Jordan in his prime would get 8 out of 10 wins against Lebron.
Oh, you watched Jordan play 1on1? :confusedshrug:

[BoutPractice]

Far worse players than LeBron could get at least 1 out of 10 against Jordan... In 1 on 1s, inferior players can easily win if they get into a zone with their jumpshot.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

In all my years of playing basketball I've NEVER heard the term of punking somebody as hitting a shot in their face and talking shit. I've NEVER heard ANYBODY say that's punking somebody. We don't do that shit in the south.
i'm sorry, but comparing your little 5 on 5's to professional ball is pretty comical. i imagine the phrase "punking somebody" would have a very different meaning during your little ghetto assss 5 on 5's.

[Jolokia]

Only player that could beat MJ consistently is Kobe. MJ will still win the series though.
AI would give MJ a scare but it'd only last 3-5 points.

[Mr Exlax]

i'm sorry, but comparing your little 5 on 5's to professional ball is pretty comical. i imagine the phrase "punking somebody" would have a very different meaning during your little ghetto assss 5 on 5's.

Middle school, high school and some city leagues and I've NEVER heard anybody say punking somebody while playing basketball consists of hitting a shot and talking some trash.

[NumberSix]

Only player that could beat MJ consistently is Kobe. MJ will still win the series though.
AI would give MJ a scare but it'd only last 3-5 points.
So much fail in this post

[TheMarkMadsen]

LOL this f.aggot is so pissed LeBron>>>>>Kobe :oldlol: :oldlol:

You're obsessed with me almost as much as your obsessed with a guy who if you met in real life wouldn't even acknowledge your existence

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Middle school, high school and some city leagues and I've NEVER heard anybody say punking somebody while playing basketball consists of hitting a shot and talking some trash.
it's because you're a hood rat.

[TheMan]

Middle school, high school and some city leagues and I've NEVER heard anybody say punking somebody while playing basketball consists of hitting a shot and talking some trash.
I guess we just take our hoops more seriously in Chicago...

[Mr Exlax]

it's because you're a hood rat.

Shit I would think the hood is where the trash talk comes from. That's why I find it crazy that I've never heard the term being used by scoring and talking trash. That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

[Orlando Magic]

I would pick MJ to win 1on1 vs Bron every time if I were a betting man.

I'd also pick prime Kobe over prime LeBron 1 on 1 and it's not even close.

That being said... I'd still take LeBron over both of those guys when starting a team from scratch. LeBron's play style is more conducive to winning than Jordan and Bryant.

Basically, LeBron can elevate everyone around him. Those guys can't.

LeBron is the best team basketball player that ever lived.

[Mr Exlax]

I guess we just take our hoops more seriously in Chicago...

So if i were to hit a three in your face and said something like that's how I'm gonna bust your ass all game, then I just punked you?

What if you score on the next possession and talk shit? Did you punk me back or does that negate me punking you? Or did we not punk each other at all?

The only punking I know is if i hit you with a hard foul and you get mad about, but you bitch up and don't tell me anything about it and or don't retaliate. Then I'd say I punked you.

[TheMarkMadsen]

So if i were to hit a three in your face and said something like that's how I'm gonna bust your ass all game, then I just punked you?

What if you score on the next possession and talk shit? Did you punk me back or does that negate me punking you? Or did we not punk each other at all?

The only punking I know is if i hit you with a hard foul and you get mad about, but you bitch up and don't tell me anything about it and or don't retaliate. Then I'd say I punked you.


No. If you were to tell somebody prior to the game that you were gonna "bust their ass all game" and then you outscored them in the game & hit a 3 in their eye to seal the game..

then you've punked them.

Kinda like if JT would have been talking smack all game and then would have done this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMY6cqd8al0


oh wait..

[TheMan]

So if i were to hit a three in your face and said something like that's how I'm gonna bust your ass all game, then I just punked you?

What if you score on the next possession and talk shit? Did you punk me back or does that negate me punking you? Or did we not punk each other at all?

The only punking I know is if i hit you with a hard foul and you get mad about, but you bitch up and don't tell me anything about it and or don't retaliate. Then I'd say I punked you.
We just have different views on the word punked, you obviously link it to a violent act while I link it to someone making you look foolish in a basketball game.

If my oppossing player keeps saying he's gonna score on me no matter what I do and he baxks it up and I can't stop him and he goes on to drain the game winner in my face, I could pretty much expect my teammates to tell me he punked me in that game.

It's just street lingo man, get over it. You're probably a white boy legend beating other surburban kids, I played against some good Chicago street ballers in my time, and got punked from time to time:lol

[crisoner]

I disagree with Magic...i think 9-10


Jordan was the better one on one player straight up I'm not surprised.

[nathanjizzle]

:facepalm

[Papaya Petee]

100% is quite laughable but MJ would win 8 probably. You guys don't understand that when Jordan refuses to lose, he will not lose.

So going by this stupid logic, Jordan should be a 14x MVP and 14x Champion, unless he lost on purpose.

a 6'9 270 pound guy whos been automatic from 3 and been a beast down low wouldn't beat a 6'6 215 pound guy in a game 1v1 if they played 10 times? :roll: :roll: You people are so dumb.

[nathanjizzle]

jordan would probably beat lebron 7-6 out of 10. jordan has too many moves for lebron to handle.

[NumberSix]

LeBron would win about 6 of 10.

[TheMarkMadsen]

So going by this stupid logic, Jordan should be a 14x MVP and 14x Champion, unless he lost on purpose.

a 6'9 270 pound guy whos been automatic from 3 and been a beast down low wouldn't beat a 6'6 215 pound guy in a game 1v1 if they played 10 times? :roll: :roll: You people are so dumb.


his 3pt shot is greatly improved, however he's far from automatic, it's not like he's out there hoisting 3's all game. He's 4th on his own team in 3FGA

[Papaya Petee]

his 3pt shot is greatly improved, however he's far from automatic, it's not like he's out there hoisting 3's all game. He's 4th on his own team in 3FGA
Have you watched the past 8-10 Heat games? Almost every 3 he puts up is money. Defenders are scared to jump on it as much because they know he will blow by them for a dunk.

Prime Jordan vs Prime LeBron wins 6 out 10 close games, no way in hell he dominates him in any way shape or form.

[ThaRegul8r]

Who cares who would beat who in a game of 1-on-1? Ugh, I hate this mentality.

:banghead:

Basketball is not reducible to who can go 1-on-1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 better than another. People should just disband every team then and just throw everyone into the AND1 circuit and play "seasons" in which everyone can go 1-on-1 and then see who comes out on top at the end of it. Since that's all most people seem to care about.

:facepalm

[diamenz]

mj would win the majority of the time on fundamentals and iq alone. the man has a million moves in his arsenal and he uses them until he gets an open shot.

lebron is great, no doubt, but there's plenty of others who qualify for mj vs. ______ more than lebron james does.

[Mr Exlax]

We just have different views on the word punked, you obviously link it to a violent act while I link it to someone making you look foolish in a basketball game.

If my oppossing player keeps saying he's gonna score on me no matter what I do and he baxks it up and I can't stop him and he goes on to drain the game winner in my face, I could pretty much expect my teammates to tell me he punked me in that game.

It's just street lingo man, get over it. You're probably a white boy legend beating other surburban kids, I played against some good Chicago street ballers in my time, and got punked from time to time:lol

Don't know how or why you would think I'm white, but I'm a 30 year old black man. I guess it's a lingo thing like you say. If i out due my opponent while talking cash shit then all I've done was beat him. Punking is taking somebody's manhood. It's like calling another man the word bitch. I've seen dudes get mopped up without hesitation just for calling somebody that. If a man call you a bitch while we're hooping and you don't check him then he punked you. I dunno. I might be too old or something.

[Vragrant]

Theres a great article on ESPN on Jordan and his 50th birthday

quotes


The announcers gush about LeBron, mentioning him in the same sentence with Jordan, who hears every word. Those words have an effect on him. He stares at the TV and points out a flaw in LeBron's game.

"I study him," he says.

When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."

For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"



http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Michael-Jordan/michael-jordan-not-left-building

[andremiller07]

a). They will never play each other 1 on 1 both in there primes
b). 1 on 1 is completely different to 5 on 5 and 5 on 5 is what actually matters.
c). No one actually knows who would win

[Calabis]

Lebron would post up Jordan all day and overpower him.

Yeah because Lebron's post game is so deadly:facepalm

With that said, there is no way Jordan beats Lebron 10 out of 10 times.