Knife, 3-foot lead pipe, or pistol with 1 bullet?

[fpliii]

Say you're in a 3-man fight to the death. The fight takes place in a small-ish area (say 50x50 feet, and you're caged in), relatively featureless (i.e. no room for cover). Your opponents are two individuals of similar size/build to yourself.

You get to choose your weapon first, any of the three in the title (knife, 3-foot lead pipe, pistol with 1 bullet). What's your selection, and why?

[B-Low]

how big is the knife?

Either way I'm leaning towards the pipe

[fpliii]

how big is the knife?

Either way I'm leaning towards the pipe

However big you want it to be, within reason.

[fiddy]

I'd go with the knife. IMO its capable to deliver most damge of the 3 options.

[B-Low]

I want this knife. Or Wolverine claws. Otherwise I'll take the pipe

http://www.swordsknivesanddaggers.com/assets/images/fast-swords-knives-daggers/fm-551.jpg

[MMM]

I'd take the knife and hope the guy with the gun shoots and kills the guy with the pipe

[DeuceWallaces]

The winner will be whoever doesn't get shot. Unless the shooter is adept at pistol whipping someone with a pipe or knife.

[-p.tiddy-]

The correct answer is gun...

Shoot the man with the knife...take the knife...stab the man with the pipe

[-p.tiddy-]

The winner will be whoever doesn't get shot. Unless the shooter is adept at pistol whipping someone with a pipe or knife.
Or unless the shooter has the brains to simply pick up the weapon of the man he just shot

[Stuckey]

do the other two know I only have one bullet?

[fpliii]

do the other two know I only have one bullet?

Yes, but that's an interesting alternative. I guess answer both.

[-p.tiddy-]

Also if you take the gun you might be lucky enough to have the other two fight it out first...leaving one dead, then it is just you vs. the winner, and you have the gun.

[B-Low]

The correct answer is gun...

Shoot the man with the knife...take the knife...stab the man with the pipe


"FALSE. Correct answer: wait until both men are lined up perfectly. THEN, aim gun at opponent #1's skull. The lone bullet will pass thru said skull and connect with opponent #2's skull. Both men are dead. I win."

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/files/2010/07/rainn-wilson.jpg

[Is He Ill]

I would probably choose the pipe, because I feel that the guy with the knife is most likely getting shot anyway. Or choose the gun, shoot the guy with the knife, and take my chance against the guy with the pipe.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Pipe.

You can use agility and keep strafing left and right and beckoning the guy to shoot. If he doesn't shoot chuck the pipe right at his fukking head and in that brief moment of time grab his wrist and use up the bullets then it's even.

Pipe will fukk up knife, even a strong kick would displace the guy.

[-p.tiddy-]

Well, that is still the same answer as mine B-Low...you take the gun first

[pauk]

Gimme just any traditionally forged nihinto tamahagane 2048 layer handfolded steel blade by a Japanese master swordsmith... and we are ready to go... around knife size, i guess ill go with a "Wakizashi" then:

http://www.sword001.com/images/201208/goods_img/59_P_1346225722860.jpg


Look at that tamahagane steel carefully...............
dont know how good your forging metal process knowledge is but let me just say this baby with correct technique will amputate anything standing in its way and it wont break/chip either....

STRATEGY:
Easy.... I will just try and let the pipe guy draw the bullet guys attention, the pipe guy will be a guaranteed 1st goner and the survivor now armed with only bone & flesh.......... easy work... how many slices of human cheese do you want?

If that doesnt go then i can just pray the bullet doesnt hit me and if it does then i hope it hits me somewhere so i could be vital enough to continue the fight.......... the bullet guy is now a guaranteed 1st goner, the poor Pipe guy will be in trouble, a pipe sure wont break a Wakizashi block/parry (the steel is impossible to break, its kindof elastic aswell).... and then lets just say that one attack from a Wakizashi will cause much more damage, thats an understatement...... unless the pipe guys first attack is a lucky & perfect hit to my temple (that wont happen) he aint living to see another day..... then i just I walk away, maybe with a bruise and at the worst maybe with a bullet wound which i will take care of later... :)

Way of the samurai!

[Is He Ill]

The correct answer is gun...

Shoot the man with the knife...take the knife...stab the man with the pipe

The guy with the pipe isn't going to allow you to pick up the knife at that point. Once you shoot, he's going to pounce on that ass.

[ballup]

Are there more conditions to this scenario? How far apart do you start? Who are the other two guys? Do the other two guys know the conditions of the deathmatch or are they left blind about it?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Haha pauk u wouldn't stand a chance with a fukkin poisonous blowdart fresh from Ace Ventura when nature calls.

ANd don't get me started on shuriken

[bmulls]

Pipe. It would be incredibly difficult to hit a moving person with 1 bullet, and even if you do manage to get 1 guy the other dude has a huge advantage over you. The range of a pipe beats the knife any day.

[-p.tiddy-]

The guy with the pipe isn't going to allow you to pick up the knife at that point. Once you shoot, he's going to pounce on that ass.
You can home him back with the gun, before you shoot


Whoever you shoot, do so while you're the closest to him so that you can take his weapon

[-p.tiddy-]

Also a knife or shank is usually more effective than a pipe or bat...ask jail inmates, or look at murder stats of blade vs object

It is gun...shoot man with knife...take knife...guard your head and stab away

[pauk]

You people who say pipe, you better PRAY you kill the knife guy with your first and only hit....... and you know perfectly well that wont happen....

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Also a knife or shank is usually more effective than a pipe or bat...ask jail inmates, or look at murder stats of blade vs object

It is gun...shoot man with knife...take knife...guard your head and stab away

Pipe man is holding 36" of long, hard, cold steel bro. That's baseball bat-esque.

He can literally fall to the ground, ROLL quickly, and SMASH the back of your kneecaps forcing gunman or knifeman to lose the balance thus leaving him vulnerable for the beatdown.

If knifeman sprints full force at pipeman, pipe can do a front barrel kick. Distance is huge man. And if pipeman gets first hit in knifeman can and will be disoriented. Unless..

Think of the kind of karate stances they have available to protecting your vitals. Your heart, carotid artery, stomach, etc. wil be protected if you have an exagerrated front stance low to the ground and have your steel bar extended.


pauk u better pray you hit a vital because if you stab pipeman in the leg or shoulder or arm... Lol. And he retaliates with a nice swing right to the temple.

[fpliii]

Are there more conditions to this scenario? How far apart do you start? Who are the other two guys? Do the other two guys know the conditions of the deathmatch or are they left blind about it?

Hmmm...

All three of you have the same knowledge. The other two guys are random strangers, with the same size/build as you (as for mentality, it's an unknown in this scenario).

As for how far apart are you guys at the start, my preference would be all three will be equidistant, though I guess a square makes this ideal. Since it's 50x50 feet, I guess you'll be at least 25 feet from each other to start (let's say each of you is exactly 25 feet from the other two for simplicity, centered around the middle of the caged area).

[bmulls]

You people who say pipe, you better PRAY you kill the knife guy with your first and only hit....... and you know perfectly well that wont happen....

You watch too many movies. If I hit you with a lead pipe anywhere on your body you are going down. You aren't going to block it with your arm and stab me or some shit, it's going to shatter your arm and you're going to drop like a bitch.

[tpols]

Also a knife or shank is usually more effective than a pipe or bat...ask jail inmates, or look at murder stats of blade vs object

It is gun...shoot man with knife...take knife...guard your head and stab away
You would have to hit the guy right through the brain, neck or heart with hat bullet or your plan isn't working. That's tough when everyone's scrambling in a small space. If you hit him in the gut or any non fatal place he's dropping and curling up with the weapon still in his hands. You'll get pummeled while reaching.

Even if you do manage to get him to drop the knife with a good shot, you'll have to run over to the knife and bend down to get it while the other guy with the pipe springs at you swinging at your head or knees or spine whichever is vulnerable(you'll only have one hand to cover up while you reach). I'd rather get stabbed once or twice in the back than get rendered unable to move for a second or two from the blunt force shock of a pipe. You'd get beat down without getting a single lick.

Pipe would win..

[Is He Ill]

You watch too many movies. If I hit you with a lead pipe anywhere on your body you are going down. You aren't going to block it with your arm and stab me or some shit, it's going to shatter your arm and you're going to drop like a bitch.

This. The guy with the knife stands very little chance against the three foot lead pipe. The pipe is actually the most balanced weapon out of the three imo.

[ballup]

If you had the gun, pretty easy to get another weapon if one charges at you, but difficult if both do it at the same time. Shoot too early and you can miss, leaving you with a gun that can only serve as a crappy shield or a blunt weapon. Best to wait for a person to come at you, but it'll be a 1v1 afterwards.

If you have the knife or the pipe, going after the gun guy would most likely end up in you getting shot. Aside from that, the dude with the other melee weapon would turn on you when you make impact with the gun guy. If you go after the other melee weapon carrier, you'd be easy pickings for the gun guy as you'd be likely tired or too distracted to dodge the bullet. You can't guarantee the gun guy won't just try to shoot one of you immediately.

Or you can guarantee a least painful death by choosing the gun and opting to shoot yourself.

Best option would be the gun, hope that the guy with the pipe goes for you and kill him to take his pipe. The pipe has more range than the knife and is much easier to take because the handle is on both ends unlike the knife. It won't be pretty or success won't be guaranteed, but plan wise, this has the least amount of openings.

[Legend of Josh]

You never bring a knife to a gun fight. Only a single bullet, that's OK, no problem. I'd just pull out a couple of DOUBLE-A batteries and insert them into the chamber. Then just point and pull the trigger. I'm talkin' some Duracell overkill type shieeeeeeeeet.

[pauk]

You watch too many movies. If I hit you with a lead pipe anywhere on your body you are going down. You aren't going to block it with your arm and stab me or some shit, it's going to shatter your arm and you're going to drop like a bitch.

You dont know what you are talking about my man.... A pipe is a blunt object and you will get only one strike to determine whether your opponent can endure that hit and proceed to inevitably file you like a fish or if he will immediately go down "like a bitch".... i have been accidentaly hit by such objects in my time.... it hurts very much, but thats it, it most certainly wont stop you especially with all that assumed adrenaline flowing thru your body in such a life-death situation......... and it wont shatter anybodys arm unless you perfectly with tremendous force diagonally/vertically smash the pipe into the centre of the guys ulnar/radius bones in his arm (which he will have to hold horizontally for you).......... and that either isnt a guarantee, even if it does get shattered you stand zero chance (unless that knife guy is truly a bitch)........

Now, i dont need to tell you what a BLADE can do with one strike to anywhere on the human body compared to a Pipe..... especially a Wakizashi.... do i? That i havent been accidentaly hit by.... and i dont want to find out...

The only time a guy will "drop like a bitch" from a Pipe is if he is unarmed, then he is forced to do that or if he is armed (with a knife or gun or a pipe himself) then you most likely hit him on the head....... and that will in this case be the only way for you to drop somebody holding such a Blade (or better yet a Handgun) like a bitch...... and that wont happen unless the knife guy you are attacking is an imbecille, i assume he would know how to use his of hand for you to strike while he sticks that blade so far up your intestines you will begin to see your angel wings immediately............ a knife is also much more faster and more maneuverable of a weapon...

[Legend of Josh]

You dont know what you are talking about my man.... A pipe is a blunt object and you will get only one strike to determine whether your opponent can endure that hit and proceed to inevitably file you like a fish or if he will immediately go down "like a bitch".... i have been accidentaly hit by such objects in my time.... it hurts very much, but thats it, it most certainly wont stop you especially with all that assumed adrenaline flowing thru your body in such a life-death situation......... and it wont shatter anybodys arm unless you perfectly with tremendous force diagonally/vertically smash the pipe into the centre of the guys ulnar/radius bones in his arm (which he will have to hold horizontally for you).......... and that either isnt a guarantee, even if it does get shattered you stand zero chance (unless that knife guy is truly a bitch)........

....

:oldlol:

Come on man, if you get hit with a lead pipe, especially in say the head or a lucky strike that breaks for example an arm or leg, you're not going to be right back up with all that, with this "adrenaline flowing" like dude is coke'd up or some shit. LOL. I think the dude you quoted who said you watch too many movies was pretty much on point. You're probably quite young and play too many video games. Enough to the point you have difficulty distinguishing the difference between fantasy and reality.

:hammerhead:

[macmac]

I've blocked a wooden baseball bat with my forearm before and as much as if Fukkin killed and bruised my bone, I don't see how a pipe is all that different, a huge knife is much harder to parry. Ill take the knife any day, especially if you get into his arms reach, the pipe becomes obsolete, if you both end up on the floor, wrestling, much easier to stab or cut than to swing....

As far as the pistol, it better be a goddamn magnum with a 44 caliber at least...if I had it, I would keep my distance and order the other two to fight to the death, before I take the winner out

[pauk]

:oldlol:

Come on man, if you get hit with a lead pipe, especially in say the head or a lucky strike that breaks for example an arm or leg, you're not going to be right back up with all that, with this "adrenaline flowing" like dude is coke'd up or some shit. LOL. I think the dude you quoted who said you watch too many movies was pretty much on point. You're probably quite young and play too many video games. Enough to the point you have difficulty distinguishing the difference between fantasy and reality.

:hammerhead:

A knife is much more faster & maneuverable.... can be used to kill you either from millimeter distance or further away, you will be able to move and manuever not only that weapon better but also yourself, there is so many ways for you to attack and every single attack/stab does much more damage...... Using a pipe you are extremly one dimensional & limited for doing vulnerable attacks because the opponent needs to be at one specific distance only and because it is a blunt you need to hit him only where it truly shuts him down (hoping that any hit on him anywhere will drop him is just a life ending risk)..... Using a knife you will always be deadly..... imagine the knife guy latching on to you, what will you do now? You certainly wont be able to hit him with a pipe from that distance/situation (not vulnerably), even if he doesnt attack you there he is at no danger....... but you are... at all times...

I have watched many movies.... and in none of them have i seen a guy with a blade lose to a somebody with a cro-magnon blunt object indeed.... but its also reality unfortunately...

You are a smart guy Legends of Josh, but on this one you need to trust me... i love movies & video games indeed, but i am not as young as you think and my sources as a martial artist far exceeds the facts i get from watching movies or playing games...

[Dasher]

The person with the gun is very likely to miss. Most people aren't marksmen. I'd take the pipe. It has the better reach than the knife, and should fell either foe with one blow.

[Riddler]

I'll take my fist over all three weapons.

[pauk]

The bat/pipe has the advantage on the outside but once you get within range the fight is over and to get to that range is much more easier than for the Pipe guy to keep you at one specific distance. Then it will be a grappling match, one holding a knife and one most probably being forced to throw his pipe away and defend himself with nothing but skin, flesh and bones....... If you shoot in they have basically one lucky swing to stop you before you get through the range. But just in case, fake high to get them to commit to a swing and then shoot for a takedown Royce Gracie style. Once you have a hold of them its over... cut hamstrings/puncture chest cavity/slash throats as necessary. Worst case scenario you eat a shot from the bat but if it's accurate enough to hit you on the level change it won't be powerful enough to knock you out......

Now, if the pipe/bat was a sword then its a different story, that hit you wont be able to shrug of at all no matter where it lands... hell you can just point it right out and run straight towards the guy with the knife... :P

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

"I got a knife and the knife is sharp"

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/StrikSkillz/evie.jpg

[pauk]

"I got a pipe!"

http://i.imgur.com/fBgrlwK.jpg

[Riddler]

You have to take the gun... I'm not gonna take my chances against a guy with a loaded gun even if it has one bullet.

[-p.tiddy-]

Okay, I got this...you take the gun and point it back and forth at both if them and force them to fight it out.

Then shoot the winner of the two.

[pauk]

Wait, how big lead pipes are we talking about here? 3 foot in diameter or length?

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_images/highres/2008-2-29-ecuaoil51582512.jpg


Can we sharpen the tip of the lead pipe?

Could we attach sharp objects into the lead pipe?

https://www.darkknightarmoury.com/images/Product/large/MB-M37204.png

Could we have one of those lead pipes that has multiple other lead pipes on it?

Could we use the pipe as a BLOW PIPE?

http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/air-guns-history/blowpipe-airgun.jpg

:D

[Riddler]

Okay, I got this...you take the gun and point it back and forth at both if them and force them to fight it out.

Then shoot the winner of the two.

:applause:

We have a winner.


reminds me of the Joker having tryouts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXbib9MahE
pool tryouts by the joker

[iamgine]

Say you're in a 3-man fight to the death. The fight takes place in a small-ish area (say 50x50 feet, and you're caged in), relatively featureless (i.e. no room for cover). Your opponents are two individuals of similar size/build to yourself.

You get to choose your weapon first, any of the three in the title (knife, 3-foot lead pipe, pistol with 1 bullet). What's your selection, and why?
Definitely pistol. Reason being I think it ensure the highest chance of survival.

First, if you pick any of the other two weapons, your survival chance already dropped to 50% at the very start. The pistol guy can choose whoever he wanted to kill.

Second, lead pipe isn't that scary. It could be devastating but it's freakin heavy and in such a small space it would be prone to rush tactic.

Third, knife guy is likely to be the one to get shot. I would definitely shoot the knife guy and take his knife if I can. If I can't then I can throw the pistol and bumrush the pipe guy.

[pauk]

Okay, I got this...you take the gun and point it back and forth at both if them and force them to fight it out.

Then shoot the winner of the two.

:roll:

But i dont think that will work, the handgun guy will be #1 priority...

[LeFraud James]

A pipe is a blunt object and you will get only one strike to determine whether your opponent can endure that hit

Yeah maybe if your arms were made of spaghetti. :oldlol:

Maybe in your specific case since you're fighting people the same relative height/weight as you, going with the knife would be best since you probably wouldn't even be able to lift the pipe over your head.

[Legend of Josh]

"I got a knife and the knife is sharp"

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/StrikSkillz/evie.jpg

I can't recall ... is that Evo from the old message board or starface?

[Is He Ill]

Okay, I got this...you take the gun and point it back and forth at both if them and force them to fight it out.

Then shoot the winner of the two.

That won't work, you're basically assuming the other two people are complete morons.

[macmac]

Okay, I got this...you take the gun and point it back and forth at both if them and force them to fight it out.

Then shoot the winner of the two.

I like how you just ripped off my idea from two posts earlier :rant

[ace23]

I like how you just ripped off my idea from two posts earlier :rant
Can you count?

[BuGzBuNNy]

Not having read any posts I'd probably take the pistol and do my best to make sure I landed it. I'd aim for the torso, definitely wouldn't go for a head shot. From there hope it cripples him enough to go one on one with the second guy. The thought of having the lead pipe or knife taken from me and then beaten/stabbed with it takes them out of the discussion. The pipe would be the easiest of the three to have taken away but probably the most effective due to the space you can keep.

Pistol
Pipe
Knife

I'm assuming that neither of them have a weapon

ah, i misread. Well if we're all getting one of the three I'd definitely take the gun being that its insta kill. I'd shoot dude with the pipe :lol then again idk, it'd be a lot easier to dodge a swing from the pipe than being cut or stabbed by the knife. No yea, I'd shoot dude with the pipe and then take the pipe

[CelticBaller]

Okay, I got this...you take the gun and point it back and forth at both if them and force them to fight it out.

Then shoot the winner of the two.
You're just asking for them to team up on you :oldlol:

[BuGzBuNNy]

The correct answer is gun...

Shoot the man with the knife...take the knife...stab the man with the pipe
It'd be easier the other way around imo. I'd rather the pipe over the knife

[Legend of Josh]

We can sit here and talk about sticks and stones, atomic bombs and bazookas, knifes, crack pipes or whatever the **** you **** heads are yapping about, but the real shit that'll leave the common e-ga deceased and beneath the dirt of the earth, is this:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/2afde94e3cd40486f21613e2d5f6bb0d/tumblr_metl6rnPjN1qjym10o1_500.jpg

Step to the Zapper, the original gun-clapper, bitch-ass eye in S yappers - I outta smack yah, who'z ya master.

:lol

[-p.tiddy-]

I like how you just ripped off my idea from two posts earlier :rant
My bad didnt see...you get cred for the correct answer

[plowking]

The only logical answer here is gun.

You guarantee yourself a 50% chance of survival. You have a weapon guaranteed of being a one shot stopper.
Taking anything other than the gun immediately puts your life in danger from the get go. You could be the one shot with the gun if you don't choose it.
And never was it implied that people act rationally and logically. Who knows, maybe the other guys attack each other before going for the guy with the gun.
At the very worst, even after firing it, you still have an extremely heavy object to throw, or distract someone with.

[pauk]

Can it be a .50 cal explosive/incendiary round? :)

[-p.tiddy-]

Shooting someone with a gun at close range is very easy.

This isn't the matrix, in the real world people can't dodge bullets

Just take your time, aim...shoot...man down


you want to know what most can't do? Fight with a knife or club...that takes actual skill.

[iamgine]

It doesn't have to be a kill shot.

[bmulls]

Shooting someone with a gun at close range is very easy.

This isn't the matrix, in the real world people can't dodge bullets

Just take your time, aim...shoot...man down


you want to know what most can't do? Fight with a knife or club...that takes actual skill.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Hitting a moving target with a single bullet in a life or death situation would be incredibly difficult.

Real life is not like a movie or Call of Duty. All these incredible shots you see on TV don't ever happen in reality. I guarantee you if I took you to a shooting range you wouldn't hit the bullseye on a stationary piece of paper with your first shot, let alone a moving target.

[fpliii]

far as the pistol, it better be a goddamn magnum with a 44 caliber at least

Yes.


Wait, how big lead pipes are we talking about here? 3 foot in diameter or length?

Can we sharpen the tip of the lead pipe?

Could we attach sharp objects into the lead pipe?

Could we have one of those lead pipes that has multiple other lead pipes on it?

Could we use the pipe as a BLOW PIPE?

3 foot length, whichever diameter you want within reason

You can fashion the pipe however you choose, but remember that you'd have to do this during live combat in a constrained area. I guess if you steal the knife guy's weapon you can attach it, but I don't know how you'd acquire darts or needles for a blow pipe.


Can it be a .50 cal explosive/incendiary round? :)

Standard round (maybe piercing, but I'm trying to underpower the gun in order to make all three options relatively equally attractive).

[-p.tiddy-]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Hitting a moving target with a single bullet in a life or death situation would be incredibly difficult.

Real life is not like a movie or Call of Duty. All these incredible shots you see on TV don't ever happen in reality. I guarantee you if I took you to a shooting range you wouldn't hit the bullseye on a stationary piece of paper with your first shot, let alone a moving target.
I'm a gun owner and go to the range somewhat often...its you who has no idea what your talking about...do you think these guys are just going to run in circles forever? Lol

A woman can shoot a pistol...and they do

If you can't shoot someone close range with a pistol, then you are probably 10x as worthless with a malee weapon

[johndeeregreen]

Just about everyone in this thread seems to think movies = RL.

[-p.tiddy-]

Give me a gun with one bullet vs. anyone with any blunt object and I am winning 100 times out of 100...unless of course you are Neo or Agent Smith

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Homicide-by-Weapon-Type-1976-2005-256x200.jpeg

^^^

1. handguns
2. knives
3. blunt objects

why are murders at different rates with different weapons? they are listed by ease of use...it's really hard to kill someone with a pipe or bat, many times that ends up with both people holding it and pulling at it...whch is why killers have more success with knives, but of course a handgun takes the cake.

[jamal99]

Can it be a .50 cal explosive/incendiary round? :)
You're trying too hard to showoff your weapon knowledge. And with that knife you posted, I'm sure you would be gunman's priority target and gun>>>>knife...

Gun has too much power to pass up on it imo. With gun, you have one almost certain kill and you can try to take his weapon. If you choose knife or pipe, you have 50% of getting shot.

[DeuceWallaces]

Or unless the shooter has the brains to simply pick up the weapon of the man he just shot

Apparently you don't have to brains to consider the guy with the pipe isn't gonna let you pick up the knife un-contested; PT just got a pipe to the skull.

[ballup]

Apparently you don't have to brains to consider the guy with the pipe isn't gonna let you pick up the knife un-contested; PT just got a pipe to the skull.
This is why it's too risky to be offensive in this situation unless you are overly skilled compared to the other two guys of if the other guy is too much of a ***** to do anything after you kill your first target.

[bagelred]

Knife, 3-foot lead pipe, or pistol with 1 bullet?

http://couponconnections.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/clue-game.jpeg

I'll say it's Professor Plum in the Conservatory with the Candlestick.


Drat! I was wrong......

[-p.tiddy-]

Murder rates are different because of different weapon availabilities and killing power. It's much easier to get a gun, have it in your pocket and then shoot someone than it is to bludgeon someone to death.

A gun also leaves less time for the assailant to think about their actions. One pull of the trigger and the person could die. You have to wreck someone repeatedly with a blunt object to kill them, most people would probably realize they should stop before it gets to the point of brains on the floor... Then it would just be assault charges or attempted murder.
handguns are the hardest to aquire of the 3...but killing power was my point...A handgun is the easiest to use and the most lethal...then a knife...then a blunt object.

Blunt objects are the easiest to aquire, and the least amount of deaths...anyone can aquire a pipe or a hammer or a bat...but it is more difficult to kill someone with a blunt object than a knife which sees more murders and obviously a gun which sees the most.

[-p.tiddy-]

Yeah it does. If this is to the death someone that was merely winged by a bullet isn't going to stop and cry about it.

The other guy would then go after the gun holder because the gun has no power once the bullet is shot. (Assuming everyone knows about the 1 bullet caveat)
I don't know what "winged" means to you but if you are shot in the torso head or thigh you're going down unless it is a .22 calibre or something

getting shot in the arm then maybe you're right...but he is still at a disadvantage with only one arm

[Blue&Orange]

Gun obviously and without a question...

If you choose the gun, you're not getting shot, and who do you think the other two would go for? Who in his right mind would chose to attack a guy with a gun over a guy with a knife\pipe?

I would wait for knife vs pipe match up winner and i would kill him.

If some idiot try to attack me first, i would put a bullet in his head a proceed to pick up his knife\pipe.


:coleman:

[bmulls]

Just about everyone in this thread seems to think movies = RL.

You can tell the ones who don't shoot because they act like a gun is some magical death machine and shooting a moving target in the head with a single bullet is easy :roll:

[bmulls]

Give me a gun with one bullet vs. anyone with any blunt object and I am winning 100 times out of 100...unless of course you are Neo or Agent Smith

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Homicide-by-Weapon-Type-1976-2005-256x200.jpeg

^^^

1. handguns
2. knives
3. blunt objects

why are murders at different rates with different weapons? they are listed by ease of use...it's really hard to kill someone with a pipe or bat, many times that ends up with both people holding it and pulling at it...whch is why killers have more success with knives, but of course a handgun takes the cake.

This is absolutely meaningless. We're talking about a cage match with multiple armed people trying to kill you, not unsuspecting murder victims.

[iamgine]

Yeah it does. If this is to the death someone that was merely winged by a bullet isn't going to stop and cry about it.

The other guy would then go after the gun holder because the gun has no power once the bullet is shot. (Assuming everyone knows about the 1 bullet caveat)
A bullet to about anywhere certainly will make people stop and cry about it.

[-p.tiddy-]

You can tell the ones who don't shoot because they act like a gun is some magical death machine and shooting a moving target in the head with a single bullet is easy :roll:
A gun is literally a death machine lol

And these targets can't move forever

And I shoot all the time, I have a licence, I have taken classes...I don't think you do though

[knickballer]

I'm leaning towards the lead pipe but then again that would leave you at a disadvantage due to how big it is and how it will basically cripple you.

The gun would be an instant kill but would it be easy to kill someone when they are running around? But then again if you had strong combat skills you can disarm the dude with the knife or lead pipe.

I'd probably go for the knife.

[-p.tiddy-]

This is absolutely meaningless. We're talking about a cage match with multiple armed people trying to kill you, not unsuspecting murder victims.
It's not meaningless at all, and not all of these were unsuspecting assassinations...it is clear evidence of which tools are the most efficient for killing