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BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 09:53 PM
Of all the top players in history, he has no rings without playing with 2 other superstars. Great player, but no rings without playing with 2 other superstars. I just keep think [sp] of Wade and Bosh carrying conspiring with lebron to form a super team. And Lebron not being able to win without them.

TheMarkMadsen
02-17-2013, 09:57 PM
Wade was/is a top 5-7 player.

Bosh was a top 10 player. Now prolly top 15

gengiskhan
02-17-2013, 09:59 PM
Of all the top players in history, he has no rings without playing with 2 other superstars. Great player, but no rings without playing with 2 other superstars. I just keep think [sp] of Wade and Bosh carrying conspiring with lebron to form a super team. And Lebron not being able to win without them.

Just like Kobe couldn't even make it to playoffs without 2 most talented Big men in LAL line up, forget the finals & the rings.

Kobe couldn't even get to playoffs. LBJ atleast gets to playoffs by himself.

tmacattack33
02-17-2013, 09:59 PM
Because in Cleveland, his second best player was Mo Williams. Mo Williams last year was a bench player and this year he's a 12 ppg scorer (his best quality...he certainly isn't a great facilitator or defender) on the very average Utah Jazz.

And in 2007, it was Illgauskas.

tmacattack33
02-17-2013, 10:01 PM
Also, last year he didn't have Bosh for the 2nd and 3rd round of the playoffs.

And Wade was battling injuries and was no top 5 player in last year's playoffs beyond getting hot in Indiana.

ripthekik
02-17-2013, 10:02 PM
:applause: only guy in league history was is considered best in the league yet still need so much help. I mean this year they have 3 of the east's starters. That's the 3 best players. It isn't all bron.

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 10:04 PM
Depending on the agenda, wade is sometimes a top 2 player in the league, or injured and past his prime.

Pau is the best big man in the league, yet he is soft as a tissue.

nathanjizzle
02-17-2013, 10:10 PM
why does it matter anyway? dwyane wade and chris bosh always play sub par.:facepalm

Solid Snake
02-17-2013, 10:12 PM
Name another player who did it without help.

Micku
02-17-2013, 10:16 PM
Name another player who did it without help.

Hakeem and Duncan did it without all stars. MJ did it without all stars in 91, but their play was good enough to be called an all-star.

Not to say that you can't do it without help, but there are cases where players done it without all-star/all-nba players.

I will say that without Wade and Bosh, LeBron may not as much freedom on offense since the defense could double team him more.. It still doesn't stop him from making the shots the way he does.

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 10:17 PM
Hakeem and Duncan did it without all stars. MJ did it without all stars in 91, but their play was good enough to be called an all-star.

Not to say that you can't do it without help, but there are cases where players done it without all-star/all-nba players.

I will say that without Wade and Bosh, LeBron may not as much freedom on offense since the defense could double team him more.. It still doesn't stop him from making the shots the way he does.

lebron getting doubled and triple teamed will not make shots.

he also wont' make shots with handchecking

Nash
02-17-2013, 10:18 PM
Why did Lebron manage to lead the 07 Cavs scrubs to the finals?

ripthekik
02-17-2013, 10:19 PM
Hakeem and Duncan did it without all stars. MJ did it without all stars in 91, but their play was good enough to be called an all-star.

Not to say that you can't do it without help, but there are cases where players done it without all-star/all-nba players.

I will say that without Wade and Bosh, LeBron may not as much freedom on offense since the defense could double team him more.. It still doesn't stop him from making the shots the way he does.
Dirk too...

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 10:20 PM
Why did Lebron manage to lead the 07 Cavs scrubs to the finals?

name the top 8 teams in the east at the time and you will know why

Mr. Incredible
02-17-2013, 10:21 PM
Lol. Only posters on ISH. Why isnt any of the NBA greats saying what you are saying? :oldlol:

Deuce Bigalow
02-17-2013, 10:21 PM
Why did Lebron manage to lead the 07 Cavs scrubs to the finals?
4th best defense in the league = scrub team

keepinitreal
02-17-2013, 10:27 PM
Why Doesn't Lebron Have Any Rings without Joining 3 other Top 5 players?

Who are the 3 top 5 players he joined? O_o

Micku
02-17-2013, 10:27 PM
lebron getting doubled and triple teamed will not make shots.

he also wont' make shots with handchecking


It's defensive pressure. They hardly double team Lebron because they cannot. With all the shooters he has on the team and with two great players with Wade and Bosh, you can't really double team him. Not to say he should be counted against it since it's the team that's epic, but I don't think you can deny how Wade and Bosh helped LeBron as much as he helped them. All three of them have career highs of FG% while playing together.

I don't think handchecking would matter all that much. He could somewhat slow him down, but sometimes guys get away with it anyway. You either have to hope his jumper is off or play some really good team defense. And don't turn the ball over.


Dirk too...

I forgot about Dirk. Shame since he did beat the Heat in the Finals too. Which makes it all the more sweeter.

ripthekik
02-17-2013, 10:30 PM
Lebron was lucky to be in the east early in his career so he could stat pad and lead his team into the playoffs because it was so weak. Then he found out he just didn't have it in him, so he joined two other superstars.

Unbelievable how guys like Dirk (top 30) can lead his own team to a ring but LeBron (top 15) and best player of the league can't

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 10:32 PM
Lebron was lucky to be in the east early in his career so he could stat pad and lead his team into the playoffs because it was so weak. Then he found out he just didn't have it in him, so he joined two other superstars.

Unbelievable how guys like Dirk (top 30) can lead his own team to a ring but LeBron (top 15) and best player of the league can't

lebron's stats are misleading.

playing with 2 other superstars would definitely help increase your stats.

allball
02-17-2013, 10:35 PM
Lebron was lucky to be in the east early in his career so he could stat pad and lead his team into the playoffs because it was so weak. Then he found out he just didn't have it in him, so he joined two other superstars.

Unbelievable how guys like Dirk (top 30) can lead his own team to a ring but LeBron (top 15) and best player of the league can't

Dirk had quite a few failings along the way and had a very deep team with an underrated Jason Terry to make the tough shots down the stretch. Much better team than Lebron had in Cleveland.

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 10:37 PM
Kobe said lebron won't respond to his trash talk.

Lebron crumbled to delonte west.

How would lebron fare against jordan/rodman?

tmacattack33
02-17-2013, 10:40 PM
Kobe said lebron won't respond to his trash talk.

Lebron crumbled to delonte west.

How would lebron fare against jordan/rodman?

Lebron's proven to be able to handle scrutiny that no player has ever dealt with. I doubt some trash talk from an idiot like Rodman would do anything to him.

Maybe MJ though, since that's someone Lebron probably respects.

Mr. Jabbar
02-17-2013, 10:57 PM
he would be force into a houdini

LebronairJAMES
02-17-2013, 11:07 PM
Op Is A B!tch
Jabbar Is A Smelly Piece Of Shit

Mr. Jabbar
02-17-2013, 11:08 PM
Op Is A B!tch
Jabbar Is A Smelly Piece Of Shit

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/2628/houdinio.jpg

nathanjizzle
02-17-2013, 11:11 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/2628/houdinio.jpg

why? :facepalm

atljonesbro
02-17-2013, 11:12 PM
LeBron has taken more crap than any player in NBA history and he seems to be doing fine.

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 11:12 PM
LeBron has taken more crap than any player in NBA history and he seems to be doing fine.

name some crap?

kNicKz
02-17-2013, 11:14 PM
That 2011 mavs squad was great. Nothing flashy. Hardworking players like Dirk, Marion, Tyson humiliating the "it's gon' be easy" squad making it really "not 1" :roll:

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 11:23 PM
with tampering to make a super team, yet lakers get shafted with "basketball reasons" for making a fair trade?

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 11:25 PM
then cross over to the left and went with a left hand layup.

MISSED

jordan was right.

MetsPackers
02-17-2013, 11:32 PM
Lmaooo kobe/laker fans literally in a manic state right now :roll:

Somebody get this guy some meds before the whole first page is all him :roll:

b1imtf
02-17-2013, 11:33 PM
Pretty bad, he was really young when they played

dbk123
02-17-2013, 11:34 PM
because pat riley is dat nikka

Dbrog
02-17-2013, 11:35 PM
? What could Stern even have done? Denied free agent rights....for basketball reasons?

atljonesbro
02-17-2013, 11:37 PM
name some crap?
Leaving Cleveland made the entire world hate him and want him to fail. Do you watch basketball?

BMOGEFan
02-17-2013, 11:40 PM
Leaving Cleveland made the entire world hate him and want him to fail. Do you watch basketball?

So losing fans is THE MOST CRAP any player in the history of basketball can take and overcome now???

How soft is this new generation?

funnystuff
02-17-2013, 11:40 PM
lebron's stats are misleading.

playing with 2 other superstars would definitely help increase your stats.
Quit talking to your other account(yourself).

plowking
02-17-2013, 11:41 PM
Because you touch yourself at night.

Kurosawa0
02-17-2013, 11:45 PM
People really misunderstand what happened with that Chris Paul trade. :facepalm

inclinerator
02-17-2013, 11:47 PM
because he wanted to give them a better team in kobe dwight nash and gasol

Trentknicks
02-17-2013, 11:48 PM
How many times does it need to be said.

Any decent owner would have rejected the Lakers deal in favour of a better one, which came soon enough anyway.

gengiskhan
02-17-2013, 11:58 PM
with tampering to make a super team, yet lakers get shafted with "basketball reasons" for making a fair trade?

Because before this. Pat Riley also created a superteam with Magic-Kareem-worthy & gave LAL franchise 4 rings.

Whoever helped LAL franchise gets a pass.

Like Kobe helped LAL win 3 rings before raping, so he is NOT convicted as a rapist.

Refs were paid to FAVOR LAL in making calls in 2002 Kings playoffs series. they get the pass.

NBA = LALBA

pauk
02-17-2013, 11:59 PM
:facepalm

Droid101
02-18-2013, 12:02 AM
How many times does it need to be said.

Any decent owner would have rejected the Lakers deal in favour of a better one, which came soon enough anyway.
What, that awesome Clipper offer where the star player (Eric Gordon) has played all of 20 games for them so far and shows no signs of wanting to be there?

NumberSix
02-18-2013, 12:07 AM
People still pretending the Clipper trade was the better deal for NOLA?

tmacattack33
02-18-2013, 12:15 AM
name some crap?

U serious brah?

Dealt with more pressure coming into the league than any other player...maybe in any sport, period.

Dealt with more scrutiny than any athlete in history who did not even commit an actual crime after The Decision...from fans, current players, legends, and the so called experts.

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:15 AM
He listened to jordan's comments.

He learned from jordan.

He broke down lebron's mechanics.

He trash talked and broke lebron down.

BLOCKBe

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:15 AM
He listened to jordan's comments.

He learned from jordan.

He broke down lebron's mechanics.

He trash talked and broke lebron down.

BLOCKBe

Trentknicks
02-18-2013, 12:18 AM
What, that awesome Clipper offer where the star player (Eric Gordon) has played all of 20 games for them so far and shows no signs of wanting to be there?
Him being injured means they got the no. 1 pick.

Even if they trade Gordon or he is injured they still have a future franchise player in Davis, and potentially a franchise duo in Gordon/Davis.

Better than the mediocre pieces from Houston and LAL that makes them a borderline playoff team with no real future prospects.

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:22 AM
Kobe strips lebron when lebron goes left.

Then kobe gets another block.

sbw19
02-18-2013, 12:24 AM
Make it two.

9erempiree
02-18-2013, 12:25 AM
He listened to jordan's comments.

He learned from jordan.

He broke down lebron's mechanics.

He trash talked and broke lebron down.

BLOCKBe

Which one?

There was more than 1...:applause:

funnystuff
02-18-2013, 12:26 AM
All Star Game

CelticBaller
02-18-2013, 12:26 AM
A freaking block made the ISH servers go batshit :facepalm

SCdac
02-18-2013, 12:27 AM
this is all Kobe fanboys have to cheer about this season :roll: :roll: :roll:

francesco totti
02-18-2013, 12:28 AM
lakers season saved with a block shot

miller-time
02-18-2013, 12:28 AM
A freaking block made the ISH servers go batshit :facepalm

Haha I know. Amazing. They must be feeling really low if this is what gets them to climb out of the woodwork.

imdaman99
02-18-2013, 12:29 AM
BLOCKS i think you mean, BLOCKS

Deuce Bigalow
02-18-2013, 12:29 AM
this is all Kobe fanboys have to cheer about this season :roll: :roll: :roll:
Everybody by now knows I'm a Kobe fan, but come on now. I don't care about this.

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:29 AM
First and second quarter

- Ya lebron gonna win the all stars MVP the way he's playing and dominating.

4th quarter time; after 2 blocks, a strip, and a 1 point 4th quarter performance.

- Its only an all star game, kobe fans going ape shit over 2 blocks.

ripthekik
02-18-2013, 12:30 AM
We need to get the video of the blocks on YouTube Asap!!!

Flagrant 2
02-18-2013, 12:30 AM
First and second quarter

- Ya lebron gonna win the all stars MVP the way he's playing and dominating.

4th quarter time; after 2 blocks, a strip, and a 1 point 4th quarter performance.

- Its only an all star game, kobe fans going ape shit over 2 blocks.
:roll: :applause: So true

Wang Zhi Zhi
02-18-2013, 12:30 AM
First and second quarter

- Ya lebron gonna win the all stars MVP the way he's playing and dominating.

4th quarter time; after 2 blocks, a strip, and a 1 point 4th quarter performance.

- Its only an all star game, kobe fans going ape shit over 2 blocks.

/thread

LikeABosh
02-18-2013, 12:30 AM
This is hilarious. Lebron haters just clinging to anything they can. I pity you fools, I really do

oh the horror
02-18-2013, 12:31 AM
Haters REAL mad.

Flagrant 2
02-18-2013, 12:32 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

Mr. Jabbar
02-18-2013, 12:32 AM
17th season kobe > prime lebron

kobe putting the clamps and forcing yet another signature lebron Houdini :applause: :applause: :applause: :bowdown: :bowdown:


:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

plowking
02-18-2013, 12:33 AM
Can't wait for Kobe to do that type of defense in the playoffs.

Oh wait...

LikeABosh
02-18-2013, 12:33 AM
Moment of the season for Kobe stans/Laker fans. Enjoy the fishing ******s

Kingwillball
02-18-2013, 12:34 AM
DO me a Favor and Bump this thread when Lebron wins his 4th MVP and 2nd championship in a few months..

DropStep
02-18-2013, 12:34 AM
You made 4 threads in the past 10 minutes over the same topic. Calm down before you get a heart attack.

ripthekik
02-18-2013, 12:34 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif
:bowdown:
You the man

Flagrant 2
02-18-2013, 12:35 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

Noob Saibot
02-18-2013, 12:36 AM
and yet Chris Paul wins the MVP award! It's a travesty!

Mr. Jabbar
02-18-2013, 12:37 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

CHi1PriDe
02-18-2013, 12:38 AM
Too bad the lakers comes back to reality on Wednesday..

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:38 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

going left, when doing a jump shot, he doesn't release the ball at the peak of his jump and does a fadeaway.

Da Hammer
02-18-2013, 12:38 AM
The Amount of butthurt by lebron stans is unbelievable :roll: :lol

RoseCity07
02-18-2013, 12:40 AM
Bragging about Kobe playing in a defense in a game where no one is playing hard. What a try hard Kobe is.:oldlol:

Lebron was shooting it because he is expecting players to back off. When Lebron realized Kobe was trying he took Kobe one on one and embarrassed him.

LikeABosh
02-18-2013, 12:40 AM
ISH is showing it's true colors with this shit. Truly diluted garbage on this forum. Kobe plays 2 min. of D in an all star game and the site ****ing crashes with literally dozens of threads about it.

webberz0044
02-18-2013, 12:41 AM
So I'm guessing the Lakers season began after that block?

DropStep
02-18-2013, 12:42 AM
Most of the threads are from one person.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
02-18-2013, 12:42 AM
Bragging about Kobe playing in a defense in a game where no one is playing hard. What a try hard Kobe is.:oldlol:

Lebron was shooting it because he is expecting players to back off. When Lebron realized Kobe was trying he took Kobe one on one and embarrassed him.

The d picked up in the 4th. Like I said, Bron fans are scrambling for anything ... :oldlol: KoMe embarrassed him. Admit it.

CHi1PriDe
02-18-2013, 12:42 AM
Stop spamming with your dumbass threads.. Smfh :facepalm

RoundMoundOfReb
02-18-2013, 12:43 AM
reported for spamming the forum with 5 threads about 1 play

Fawker
02-18-2013, 12:43 AM
MJ's views still making an impact. kobe with a block on a lebron jumpshot from the left side

The-Legend-24
02-18-2013, 12:44 AM
All the Bron stans are panicking like crazy, so much butthurt... shit is hilarious.

:roll:

ripthekik
02-18-2013, 12:44 AM
reported for spamming the forum with 5 threads about 1 play
Reported for being butt hurt

RoseCity07
02-18-2013, 12:45 AM
The d picked up in the 4th. Like I said, Bron fans are scrambling for anything ... :oldlol: KoMe embarrassed him. Admit it.

Scrambling? Lol that's a stretch. Kobe fans are trying so hard to make a big deal out of it. Didn't the Heat already spank the Lakers in a game that mattered. You people don't seriously think Kobe could stop Lebron do you?

They weren't even calling fouls like this is an nba game. TryHardbe would foul out the way he rides Lebron's arm the up the court.

Wang Zhi Zhi
02-18-2013, 12:45 AM
Reported for being butt hurt
reported for false reporting

alleykat
02-18-2013, 12:45 AM
hey you should keep all these threads in one thread....

there are so many of these spamming the discussion boards I can't see the actual topics people want to talk about

Noob Saibot
02-18-2013, 12:45 AM
somewhere out there, Michael Jordan is smiling.

Da Hammer
02-18-2013, 12:46 AM
All the Bron stans are panicking like crazy, so much butthurt... shit is hilarious.

:roll:
Bron fans really are the worst fans in sports right next to floyd mayweather nutthuggers :lol

ripthekik
02-18-2013, 12:46 AM
Bragging about Kobe playing in a defense in a game where no one is playing hard. What a try hard Kobe is.:oldlol:

Lebron was shooting it because he is expecting players to back off. When Lebron realized Kobe was trying he took Kobe one on one and embarrassed him.
Did you see the second block where LeBron raced full speed down the court trying to push off Kobe, but still got blocked anyways:lol

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:46 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

Kingwillball
02-18-2013, 12:47 AM
KObe Stans are Disgusting this flat out proves it.. Lebron Outplayed Kobe EASILY in head to head meetings 2-0 this year 5 out of last 6. Lebron having Superior season by far but yet U **** Jizz over a Block here He came off his own man and blocked shot from Behind. Only thing I blame Lebron for is not stepping it up a notch late in game he still seemed to be playing half assed and didnt seem to sense Kobe stepping up intensity.

game3524
02-18-2013, 12:47 AM
Yeah, it is an all-star game. But Kobe flat-out embarrassed him.

It is a damn shame we never got to see this guys go at it in the Finals. Should have happened in 2010.

BMOGEFan
02-18-2013, 12:47 AM
Did you see the second block where LeBron raced full speed down the court trying to push off Kobe, but still got blocked anyways:lol

GIF GIF GIF PLEASE!!!!!

tikay0
02-18-2013, 12:48 AM
DAMN SON, YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED!!!!

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

Kingwillball
02-18-2013, 12:48 AM
Did you see the second block where LeBron raced full speed down the court trying to push off Kobe, but still got blocked anyways:lol


R U serious If Lebron Raced Full speed Kobe wouldnt be able to keep up with him

Kobe 4 The Win
02-18-2013, 12:49 AM
The Amount of butthurt by lebron stans is unbelievable :roll: :lol

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

It stings doesn't it? Prime Lebron going head to head with old Kobe and getting shut down, swatted twice and embarrassed. He wouldn't even have gotten those 2 freethrows if the refs made he correct call. The ball was out of bounds off Lebron and posession should have gone to the West.

This has been a season of suck in Laker town. It's nice to get a small victory like this. When these two go one on one Kobe seems to get the better of him at both ends of the floor. That being said it's still Lebron's time right now. I expect him to win MVP and get another ring this year.

LBJFTW
02-18-2013, 12:49 AM
Stop making pointless threads about the same topic. Kobe blocked LeBron. We saw it. No need to make 10 threads about it.

Wang Zhi Zhi
02-18-2013, 12:49 AM
R U serious If Lebron Raced Full speed Kobe wouldnt be able to keep up with him
let them enjoy this this is their finals :coleman:

Mr. Jabbar
02-18-2013, 12:49 AM
Did you see the second block where LeBron raced full speed down the court trying to push off Kobe, but still got blocked anyways:lol

I saw it :roll:

Lebron should be thankful kobe didn't allow what was surely gonna be a big CLANK

tikay0
02-18-2013, 12:50 AM
Bron fans really are the worst fans in sports right next to floyd mayweather nutthuggers :lol

NO ONE tops a Flowmo.

LikeABosh
02-18-2013, 12:50 AM
this clown seriously needs to be banned, no joke

jaydacris
02-18-2013, 12:50 AM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs624.snc3/27532_114965795204648_8012_n.jpg

junior
02-18-2013, 12:50 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ncoqIb6R1rscbxlo1_500.gif

ish logic
iverson > jordan

Flagrant 2
02-18-2013, 12:51 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

The-Legend-24
02-18-2013, 12:54 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

















































http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2183379/kobereturns_medium.gif

Bandito
02-18-2013, 12:54 AM
Yeah, it is an all-star game. But Kobe flat-out embarrassed him.

It is a damn shame we never got to see this guys go at it in the Finals. Should have happened in 2010.
Too bad Lebron quit in 2010 and Gasol dissipated coupled with Kobe knees just failing him in 2011.:facepalm

Money 23
02-18-2013, 12:55 AM
Shawn Marion called Bron a b i t c h in the NBA Finals, re-acted by doing NOTHING.

How would MJ have re-acted to someone DARE saying something like that to him?

Exactly.

Budadiiii
02-18-2013, 12:55 AM
5>1



Kobe > LeBron

plowking
02-18-2013, 04:34 AM
This has been a season of suck in Laker town. It's nice to get a small victory like this. When these two go one on one Kobe seems to get the better of him at both ends of the floor.

What sport have you been watching the last 5 years? :oldlol:

LebronairJAMES
02-18-2013, 04:51 AM
I Took A Shit On OPs Face And Now He Smells like Shit

Doranku
02-18-2013, 06:17 AM
Why did Lebron manage to lead the 07 Cavs scrubs to the finals?

Because they played two 40 win teams (one that was missing their best two players) and the aging, washed up Pistons in the playoffs.

arifgokcen
02-18-2013, 06:33 AM
I dont understand.This is an exhibition game and because of one block everyone gets so excited.Let me show everyone another block

http://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/turkoglu-blocks-kobe-bryant.jpg

Exactly the same scenario and stakes were much higher.Does that block prove anything about hedo.No.

HEDO BLOCKS KOBE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHKsYlpL-NY)