Thomas Robinson traded to the Rockets

[chazzy]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Sacramento has traded forward Thomas Robinson to the Houston Rockets, league source tells Y Sports.
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/304393671179116544

Wasn't for Morris as he was just traded to Phoenix for a 2nd round pick

[Zodiac]

Robinson to Rockets for Morris and filler it seems

Kings get P Patt, Aldrich, and Toney Douglas

In a separate deal Marcus Morris was dealt to Phx for a future 2

[DuMa]

woooow. morey :bowdown:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1 minute ago

The Houston Rockets have traded Marcus Morris to the Phoenix Suns for a future second-round draft pick, league sources tell Y! Sports.


Now the PHX suns are the first ever team to have a set of NBA Twins in their roster

what the bloody hell are they doing?

[Levity]

wow. the kings are giving up on t rob that quickly? hes looked good next to dmc as of late. i always thought they should have not re-signed JT, or at least made him available for trade.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

wow

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Holy shit

[O_City_Thunder]

Wait......what?

[Is He Ill]

Robinson to Rockets


Edit- Morris was traded to the Suns for a future 2nd

Morris Bros. together in Phoenix? :oldlol:

[Levity]

wait, was the edit a joke? cause if it wasnt, allow me to capitalize my initial WOW.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

For who is the question?

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Gave up on Robinson way too soon, what the hell?

[Grinder]

They gave up Patrick Patterson, Toney Douglas and Cole Aldrich. :facepalm

I know T-Rob has potential but to put in perspective: Patterson + Douglas combine for 20 points and 6 rebounds with good 3 point shooting; T-Rob has averaged 5/5 on <50% from the field.

[Zodiac]

This is big, Woj tweeted earlier that Phoenix was one of the main teams in the running for Josh

Now they've gotten Marcus for a future 2nd. Perhaps we see Gortat/Marcus/1st to Atlanta for Josh?

[DuMa]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA now

The Rockets will send Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich and Toney Douglas to the Kings for Thomas Robinson, sources tell Y!

dammit. not PatPat. :(

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Could be a good pnr partner for harden/lin

[Zodiac]

wait, was the edit a joke? cause if it wasnt, allow me to capitalize my initial WOW.
Nope, I assumed Marcus was part of the deal but minutes later Woj tweeted he was heading to PHX

[ElPigto]

The Rockets will send Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich and Toney Douglas to the Kings for Thomas Robinson, sources tell Y!
1:00 AM - 21 Feb 13

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

wow Pat Patterson going to the Kings

[Qwyjibo]

Gave up on Robinson way too soon, what the hell?
No kidding. Robinson may never turn into anything great but this is a prime example of "selling low". Draft player 5th overall, sink his value immediately and then trade him halfway through his 1st season. Genius.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Goddamn Kings organization is run by lunatics. Not only did they draft Jimmer in the top 10 they draft T-Rob and give up on him. Then when they hit an absolute goldmine in I.T they sign Aaron Brooks to take up his minutes.

[Bajanmale]

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/304393671179116544

Wasn't for Morris as he was just traded to Phoenix for a 2nd round pick


The Rockets will send Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich and Toney Douglas to the Kings for Thomas Robinson, sources tell Y!

[CelticBaller]

pat is going to go ham in the kings :bowdown:

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Garcia and Honeycutt going to Houston with Robinson

[Levity]

pat is going to go ham in the kings :bowdown:

i hope by going to the kings, this makes DMC play closer to the basket, considering Pat Pat likes to take his twenty footers. Could be a pretty legit front court. Time to move JT in my opinion for a better wing or 2 guard.

[iDunk]

Rockets overvalued T-Rob big time in this trade.

& they traded Marcus Morris? Are they trying to give the 8th seed to LA?

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

T-Rob and Marcus Morris are actually really close friends. I bet for a second they thought they were playing with each other but hey atleast Marcus gets to play with his twin.

[Is He Ill]

The Rockets seem to have an obsession with young power forwards.

[Zodiac]

Either way it looks like Greg Smith and Moltiejunas are about to get more minutes

[Skywalker]

plain pat whatup


what a dumb trade by the Kings, Patterson is a very solid player don't get me wrong but a top 5 pick? LOL

Garcia is an expirer as well I think

[Grinder]

Kings didn't make a bad deal. They parlayed the 5th pick in an average draft into two productive role players who also happen to be young.. Robinson was pretty much a consensus top 5 pick, you could argue they should have gone with Drummond, but it's not all their fault that he hasn't produced and lived up to expectations. Patterson and Cousins played together in college and should fit well together again in the NBA. Douglas was having a solid season.

[Fudge]

Totally forgot about Patterson and Cousins in Kentucky together.

[Skywalker]

Kings didn't make a bad deal. They parlayed the 5th pick in an average draft into two productive role players who also happen to be young.. Robinson was pretty much a consensus top 5 pick, you could argue they should have gone with Drummond, but it's not all their fault that he hasn't produced and lived up to expectations. Patterson and Cousins played together in college and should fit well together again in the NBA. Douglas was having a solid season.

um what

Douglas is not good

[andremiller07]

Non of the players the Kings got help them in any way shape or form, thats the most spastic trade they could have made.

[Skywalker]

Non of the players the Kings got help them in any way shape or form, thats the most spastic trade they could have made.

Only thing I can think of is someone at Kentucky tipped off the Kings FO that Patterson kept Cousins in check in college. Maybe they roomed together and Plain Pat kept him in line all the time. He seems like a Karl Malonish black guy, straight shooter.

[Levity]

He seems like a Karl Malonish black guy, straight shooter.

whats a karl malonish white guy like?

[TexasBloodMoney]

Non of the players the Kings got help them in any way shape or form, thats the most spastic trade they could have made.

Their next move is to trade for Bledsoe/Wall + the rest of the kentucky team :bowdown:


Doesn't matter how.....it will happen.

[andremiller07]

Only thing I can think of is someone at Kentucky tipped off the Kings FO that Patterson kept Cousins in check in college. Maybe they roomed together and Plain Pat kept him in line all the time. He seems like a Karl Malonish black guy, straight shooter.

No one is going to keep Cousins in check, if the organisation and coach are not strong enough to control him they are better moving him (which I would not want to happend). They should have moved Jason Thompson or Chuck Hayes, T-Rob played awesome next to Cousins and hes a insane athlete.

Horrible horrible trade, Cole Alridge is one of the worse players in the NBA, Tony Douglas is our 5th PG and Morris is not even better than all the trash we have @SF in Salmons. Typical Kings get raped on the court so why not get raped off it to. Houston got a epic pick up for basically trading away below average players.

[Jailblazers7]

I think T-Rob could be a nice fit in HOU. Def a better place to develop instead of SAC which has become a toxic mess.

[InspiredLebowski]

whats a karl malonish white guy like?Karl Malone

[Levity]

Karl Malone

haha. fitting.

[Whoah10115]

Awful trade for Houston. Awful.


Horrendous.


If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.


Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?


But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

No one is going to keep Cousins in check, if the organisation and coach are not strong enough to control him they are better moving him (which I would not want to happend). They should have moved Jason Thompson or Chuck Hayes, T-Rob played awesome next to Cousins and hes a insane athlete.

Horrible horrible trade, Cole Alridge is one of the worse players in the NBA, Tony Douglas is our 5th PG and Morris is not even better than all the trash we have @SF in Salmons. Typical Kings get raped on the court so why not get raped off it to. Houston got a epic pick up for basically trading away below average players.

You don't have Morris, he got traded to Phoenix in a different trade. All the Kings have is Patterson, Douglas and Cole.

[andremiller07]

You don't have Morris, he got traded to Phoenix in a different trade. All the Kings have is Patterson, Douglas and Cole.
O wow...apprently we gave up on Tyler Honeycutt as well, and threw in a 2nd round pick, wow Houston with another almighty rape, there GM should get a noble prize.

[FireDavidKahn]

wtf is Sacramento thinking?:biggums:

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Thomas Robinson
Royce White
Terrance Jones

Rockets racked up on this past draft with PF's in the end.

[Droid101]

WTF is T Rob. Can you please post real names for ****'s sake?

[andremiller07]

WTF is T Rob. Can you please post real names for ****'s sake?
Thomas Robinson

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

WTF is T Rob. Can you please post real names for ****'s sake?

well it's obvious when you click the topic the first name you see is Robinson. The first team you see besides Houston is the Kings. Is it really that hard?

[Kurosawa0]

I get sticking with Jason Thompson at the four for Sacramento, but it does really just show the lack of a plan there. Damian Lillard and Harrison Barnes would've made a lot more sense in the draft.

Nice move though for Houston. Trying to find a sleeper star wherever they can.

[andremiller07]

I get sticking with Jason Thompson at the four for Sacramento, but it does really just show the lack of a plan there. Damian Lillard and Harrison Barnes would've made a lot more sense in the draft.

Nice move though for Houston. Trying to find a sleeper star wherever they can.

What do you expect from an organisation that has consistantly made horrible picks like Jimmer amongst others and have refused to build any sort of team around Cousins or Evans.

Whats next Evans for Lance Stephenson?

[Whoah10115]

O wow...apprently we gave up on Tyler Honeycutt as well, and threw in a 2nd round pick, wow Houston with another almighty rape, there GM should get a noble prize.



I just noticed that...that just makes me scratch my head more...Honeycutt has talent.

[Kurosawa0]

Whats next Evans for Lance Stephenson?

Let me ask you this, does Evans for Jared Dudley not make sense?

[andremiller07]

Let me ask you this, does Evans for Jared Dudley not make sense?

If your the Suns yes it really does

[Droid101]

well it's obvious when you click the topic the first name you see is Robinson. The first team you see besides Houston is the Kings. Is it really that hard?
Sorry all. Frustrated at myself for not knowing this guy. Seriously, the Kings are so bad that I can't even be bothered to check what players they have anymore.

[Levity]

Let me ask you this, does Evans for Jared Dudley not make sense?

if hes truly on the market, i think granger for evans + filler makes more sense for both teams.

maybe granger + augustine for evans + thompson?

[Dave3]

No kidding. Robinson may never turn into anything great but this is a prime example of "selling low". Draft player 5th overall, sink his value immediately and then trade him halfway through his 1st season. Genius.
Seems very Raptors-like of them.

[Kurosawa0]

If your the Suns yes it really does

See I like the deal for Sacramento more. You get a much needed character guy and let Phoenix pay Evans this summer. Giving Evans a big deal is a losing move.

[Jailblazers7]

Awful trade for Houston. Awful.


Horrendous.


If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.


Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?


But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.

I don't think its all that bad for HOU especially since they got Honeycutt and a pick.

Royce hasn't played a game an his future with HOU is sketchy at best (and should see time at the 3), Jones has potential but he is a tweener type who will be better as versatility off the bench in the future, and Montiejunas should be able to move over to C as he develops and fills out his frame a bit.

Robinson is still a great athlete and should fit better in HOU's fast-paced style. He can be a hustle guy as he develops and if anyone can teach him to play in the post it will be McHale.

Patterson is a nice player but they didn't really give up all that much, especially when you look long-term.

[andremiller07]

See I like the deal for Sacramento more. You get a much needed character guy and let Phoenix pay Evans this summer. Giving Evans a big deal is a losing move.

To a certain extent, but I honestly think if the Kings won't pay Evans they were better of trying to get something like Granger as someone said.

The least we could have got out of this deal was D-Mo or Terrance Jones but we didn't even get that. Cole Alridge might be the worst C in the whole NBA

[Qwyjibo]

Seems very Raptors-like of them.
Nah. The Raptors would give Robinson a 4 year extension regardless of how he plays and hold onto him for 6 years too long.

[sfballa13]

They are not messin around when they say Cali has the best kush around.

Yo Petrie puff puff pass niggga :pimp:

[Kurosawa0]

if hes truly on the market, i think granger for evans + filler makes more sense for both teams.

maybe granger + augustine for evans + thompson?

I like Jared Dudley more because he's a good role player and cheap.

I do whatever I can to get Marcus Smart in the draft and clear out the glut of guards this summer. Stay cheap, have good character guys to surround Cousins.

Also, hire Nate McMillian as the coach. :applause:

[andremiller07]

I like Jared Dudley more because he's a good role player and cheap.

I do whatever I can to get Marcus Smart in the draft and clear out the glut of guards this summer. Stay cheap, have good character guys to surround Cousins.

Also, hire Nate McMillian as the coach. :applause:
Yeah that would actually be rather epic tbh, Maruc Smart is a going to be very good and Nate as a coach would be beast.

[Kurosawa0]

To a certain extent, but I honestly think if the Kings won't pay Evans they were better of trying to get something like Granger as someone said.

The least we could have got out of this deal was D-Mo or Terrance Jones but we didn't even get that. Cole Alridge might be the worst C in the whole NBA

The team doesn't need a Granger now. You've got to bottom out (check), stay cheap and try to nail a couple of good draft picks. Granger is a guy you get to make a run, not to rebuild.

[SCREWstonRockets]

Awful trade for Houston. Awful.


Horrendous.


If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.


Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?


But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.
:oldlol: awful? The most the rockets gave up was Patterson. I'll take it.

[Kurosawa0]

Yeah that would actually be rather epic tbh, Maruc Smart is a going to be very good and Nate as a coach would be beast.

They have the assets to probably move up in the draft if they need to, unless Marcus Smart ends up going #1. They need a floor general and I think Smart has that DNA.

Nate is my pick if they go to Seattle. Would be kinda cool and he's a good coach. Got really screwed here in Portland.

[andremiller07]

The team doesn't need a Granger now. You've got to bottom out (check), stay cheap and try to nail a couple of good draft picks. Granger is a guy you get to make a run, not to rebuild.
Maybe than get Gerald Henderson than imo if they won't pay Tyreke, maybe Tyreke and something else for Jeffery Taylor and Hendo.

[Whoah10115]

:oldlol: awful? The most the rockets gave up was Patterson. I'll take it.


Mistake...awful for both is what I meant to say. I just realized that you got Honeycutt too, which makes it less awful, strictly because you have more assets.

What you have a glut of PF's with potential, don't you...too many.

[G-train]

Houston get T-Rob (5th pick full of potential, mainly restricted due to bad coaching/situation) at start of rookie contract in exchange of 2 nothing role players and Pat Pat who really is just a role player and at the end of rookie contract. T-Rob now at great club, and being coached by McHale.
Great trade for Houston.

[Jailblazers7]

Lin
Harden
Parsons/White
T-Rob/Greg Smith/Jones
Asik/Montie

Not sold on Lin as the future at PG but that is a lot of good young talent. Houston will be fun to watch develop.

[G-train]

What you have a glut of PF's with potential, don't you...too many.

DERP, they gave up two average ones today, and acquired the 5th pick in the draft. T-Rob has heaps of potential, was held back in Sac.

[Whoah10115]

I don't think its all that bad for HOU especially since they got Honeycutt and a pick.

Royce hasn't played a game an his future with HOU is sketchy at best (and should see time at the 3), Jones has potential but he is a tweener type who will be better as versatility off the bench in the future, and Montiejunas should be able to move over to C as he develops and fills out his frame a bit.

Robinson is still a great athlete and should fit better in HOU's fast-paced style. He can be a hustle guy as he develops and if anyone can teach him to play in the post it will be McHale.

Patterson is a nice player but they didn't really give up all that much, especially when you look long-term.



Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.


But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.


I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.

[Kurosawa0]

Maybe than get Gerald Henderson than imo if they won't pay Tyreke, maybe Tyreke and something else for Jeffery Taylor and Hendo.

It's amazing to me Evans isn't more in the rumors. Someone will give him a big contract this summer and I get the feeling Sacramento will match it. Don't understand why though.

[Phantom_Blue]

This will be good for Cousins, being reunited with Patterson who's always been a good character guy. This should make chuckwagon happy as well, seeing another familiar face.

[G-train]

Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.


But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.


I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.

Ah yeah except they can't have Harden, Smoove and Dwight.
They have Harden, young guys, and cap room for Dwight.

[Whoah10115]

DERP, they gave up two average ones today, and acquired the 5th pick in the draft. T-Rob has heaps of potential, was held back in Sac.



White has even more potential and is now with the team. Montiejunas has potential. It makes sense if they're packing up for a huge move.


I guess I'll watch and see what Morey does. Odd stuff tho.

[andremiller07]

The only reasoning I can think as far as this trade if that if Patterson starts over JT and opens the floor from the 3 point line to open lanes for Evans and Cousins. JT comes off the bench and becomes the go to guy off the bench with Thornton. But knowning Keith Smart that will not happend it makes to much sense.

[Jailblazers7]

Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.


But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.


I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.

Having all those guys who are questions marks isn't necessarily a bad thing. Developing talent is a numbers game sometimes and the team is better off taking a risk on a guy like T-Rob than sitting on their hands for the next 3 years hoping Terrence Jones develops or Royce White stops being afraid of the dark.

They seem to be going with the Thunder formula of acquiring young talent and I approve. Now its on them to develop them.

[Phantom_Blue]

Yea I didn't notice Honeycutt until I saw it on TV. Sacramento for the win lol.


But I actually meant to add that it was awful for both teams. It just seemed like a lateral move.


I actually see plenty of the fit for Robinson in Houston...but they have so many guys there and, while they're all question marks, so is Robinson. I'd be looking for bigger moves than Robinson. I'd go for Josh Smith and see if Howard would follow.

I actually like the trades for all involved, Morey did Morris a favor letting him reunite with his brother, and Patterson gets to reunite with Cousins and Hayes, hopefully help Cousins get his head straight.

For the Rockets, they get rebounding and athleticism, something they haven't had from the PF spot even going back to the Scola/Landry days. Trading away 2 PF's also opens up minutes for Jones & D-Mo, who were the future anyway. Robinson will get a chance to shine in a good organization, and the Rockets now have a good nucleus going forward, not to mention they still have a max deal to offer someone, probably an upgrade at the 3?

[bl2k8]

This will be good for Cousins, being reunited with Patterson who's always been a good character guy. This should make chuckwagon happy as well, seeing another familiar face.
Idk why everyone thinks Cousins having one of his boys on the team matters. If anything it'll be someone to tell him he's always right. Y'all talk like Patterson is a 30'yeard old vet

[Whoah10115]

Having all those guys who are questions marks isn't necessarily a bad thing. Developing talent is a numbers game sometimes and the team is better off taking a risk on a guy like T-Rob than sitting on their hands for the next 3 years hoping Terrence Jones develops or Royce White stops being afraid of the dark.

They seem to be going with the Thunder formula of acquiring young talent and I approve. Now its on them to develop them.


I'll give you this: makes more sense for Houston than for Sacramento.


Not that getting Patterson doesn't make any sense...or even Douglas, if you get rid of Brooks and Jimmer...but they just didn't get enough and are clogging up their roster with a lot of...what the hell?

[Whoah10115]

I actually like the trades for all involved, Morey did Morris a favor letting him reunite with his brother, and Patterson gets to reunite with Cousins and Hayes, hopefully help Cousins get his head straight.

For the Rockets, they get rebounding and athleticism, something they haven't had from the PF spot even going back to the Scola/Landry days. Trading away 2 PF's also opens up minutes for Jones & D-Mo, who were the future anyway. Robinson will get a chance to shine in a good organization, and the Rockets now have a good nucleus going forward, not to mention they still have a max deal to offer someone, probably an upgrade at the 3?



Well, they've definitely got themselves a 3...the upgrade would have to come at PG. Unless they make a crazy move for Howard...in which case they could still move for a PG.

[Jailblazers7]

Idk why everyone thinks Cousins having one of his boys on the team matters. If anything it'll be someone to tell him he's always right. Y'all talk like Patterson is a 30'yeard old vet

Patterson was clearly the leader on the UK team. He's not going to be some yes man that treats Cousins like a prodigy. Not sure it will make a difference but it certainly can't hurt.

[spiegel]

Robinson will get so much better with two great passers like Harden and Lin.They will find him off the cuts and thats smething that will help him. This also means we found our PF without having t spend ur cap space n someone like Millsap. We still have our max cap space and found a future PF and the sametime

[d.bball.guy]

Wow, they just gave up on T-Rob already?

And I'm playing a T-Rob Create-A-Legend on 2K13 :mad: :facepalm I'll just go with Drum-Drum/T-Ross then.

[bmd]

I actually like the trades for all involved, Morey did Morris a favor letting him reunite with his brother, and Patterson gets to reunite with Cousins and Hayes, hopefully help Cousins get his head straight.

For the Rockets, they get rebounding and athleticism, something they haven't had from the PF spot even going back to the Scola/Landry days. Trading away 2 PF's also opens up minutes for Jones & D-Mo, who were the future anyway. Robinson will get a chance to shine in a good organization, and the Rockets now have a good nucleus going forward, not to mention they still have a max deal to offer someone, probably an upgrade at the 3?Not the 3. Rockets have Parsons at the 3, and he is really good.

[Clippersfan86]

Robinson will get so much better with two great passers like Harden and Lin.They will find him off the cuts and thats smething that will help him. This also means we found our PF without having t spend ur cap space n someone like Millsap. We still have our max cap space and found a future PF and the sametime

He also should get good playing time. Won't be surprised if he blossoms with this young group.

[Kujo]

I'm really surprised Sacramento gave up on T-Robb so quick. I don't think he played as much as he should have. He definitely has the most upside of any player in this trade.

Patterson may just be a better fit with the Kings. Not sure how Douglas fits in when they already have Evans,Thomas, Brooks, and Jimmer.

[33teeth]

This is all about the Maloofs getting cash out of the deal. That is it. End of story.

Robinson hasn't had a quick start, but is showing plenty of potential and I doubt any Kings fans would have approved this deal.

Shady.

Maloofs are out, and doing what they can to get cash on the way out the door.

[Whoah10115]

This is all about the Maloofs getting cash out of the deal. That is it. End of story.

Robinson hasn't had a quick start, but is showing plenty of potential and I doubt any Kings fans would have approved this deal.

Shady.

Maloofs are out, and doing what they can to get cash on the way out the door.


They're honestly disgusting.

[bagelred]

Wait...Morey raped the Kings AGAIN? :lol

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Kings clearly the losers in this deal. On so many levels. ...ok, like 2 or 3 levels...but still!

[daily]

Trade can't happen without the approval of the soon to be new owners group from Seattle. Here you go Seattle your new owners at work, pulling out all the stops to save a few million dollars

[bagelred]

It's as if Kings think the Rockets are the only team to trade with. They just gave away the #5 pick in the draft for table scraps. Can anyone explain this?

[BlueCrayon]

inb4 Thomas Robinson becomes GOAT.

[supe12sta12z]

inb4 Thomas Robinson becomes GOAT.

Robinson is the biggest winner in the trade. He's going to a team where he doesn't have to be a focal point of their offense and defense. He'll actually have a defined role in Houston. I can see him thriving in Houston's fast pace offense.

[d.bball.guy]

Not yet official but whatever..here's a quick one

http://i.imgur.com/LRn1XkK.jpg

[Bobcats2013]

Houston just found that missing piece to make the playoffs.

Basically got him for free too.

[hawkfan]

Houston just found that missing piece to make the playoffs.

Basically got him for free too.

Agreed.
Houston just got better for nothing.
Rockets potentially got their power forward for the next 10 years.
It looks like this takes the Rockets out of the running for Josh Smith, while they should have cap space this summer to add another shooting wing.

[Miles and Miles]

I'm sure it will turn out to be some kind of salary dump for the Kings. They gave up on the wrong guy (T-Rob). I was hoping to get rid of DMC. I don't know the new guys but hopefully one of them has some type of decent BB IQ because no one on the Kings does with exception to IT.

[hawkfan]

Awful trade for Houston. Awful.


Horrendous.


If you have too many PF's...guys with talent, like Montiejunas and now Royce White...when you have Terrence Jones...you trade for Thomas Robinson.


Robinson could be great for them, but what do you do with all the other stuff? You're trading it for a different PG? Getting rid of Lin? What are you doing?


But I knew those Twins would end up together lol.

They can swap some of those younger players for JJ Redick.

Lin, Harden, Redick, Robinson, Asik - a very nice team going forward.

[Jailblazers7]

They can swap some of those younger players for JJ Redick.

Lin, Harden, Redick, Robinson, Asik - a very nice team going forward.

Why would they trade young pieces for Reddick when they can just sign him as a FA in the summer?

[hawkfan]

Why would they trade young pieces for Reddick when they can just sign him as a FA in the summer?

If they want to make a push now in the playoffs.
But yea, they can wait until the summer.
Also if they think some of these guys aren't any good, get rid of them now while they have some trade value.

[d.bball.guy]

Why would they trade young pieces for Reddick when they can just sign him as a FA in the summer?
Morey would be willing to give him $40 million in 4 years :lol

[Whoah10115]

They can swap some of those younger players for JJ Redick.

Lin, Harden, Redick, Robinson, Asik - a very nice team going forward.


Nah they don't need him. They have Delfino who's a very good defender and rebounder, as well as a shooter, with some balls too. No need for Redick.

[iDunk]

Patrick Patterson is actually a pretty good PF. He's a starting quality PF.

I don't think T-Rob is gonna be a star in this league. Maybe a JJ Hickson type of player.

Houston slightly won this trade. But its not rapage by the Rockets.

[Miles and Miles]

Patrick Patterson is actually a pretty good PF. He's a starting quality PF.

I don't think T-Rob is gonna be a star in this league. Maybe a JJ Hickson type of player.

Houston slightly won this trade. But its not rapage by the Rockets.

I wish JJ Hickson would have done for the Kings what he is doing for Portland this year. He has had some real nice games and is a starter there. For Sacramento he was garbage. But who hasn't been the last 7 years.

[shoops]

Houston slightly won this trade. But its not rapage by the Rockets.
I think Morey's main goal was to get rid of the jumpshooting forwards, particularly Morris, and probably get rid of Aldrich. I think he wanted better trade chips too, he might do something else with the acquisitions

[B4llin]

I would be willing to put money on the fact Lin made them trade douglas away, because he is a better player than him haha. and Douglas getting minutes exposes Lin.

[TheAesirsFinest]

I would be willing to put money on the fact Lin made them trade douglas away, because he is a better player than him haha. and Douglas getting minutes exposes Lin.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read on here.

And considering "here" is ISH, that's really saying something.

[InspiredLebowski]

I feel for you Kings fans. Sincerely. Yeah the Pacers don't spend tens of millions on the lux tax and it's basically a hard cap for us, but a lot of the fanbase doesn't realize how blessed we are that the Simon Bros bought the team. Being a fan of a small market team is one thing, but when the owners of that team are scumbags, man, I'm sorry.

[andremiller07]

I'm sure it will turn out to be some kind of salary dump for the Kings. They gave up on the wrong guy (T-Rob). I was hoping to get rid of DMC. I don't know the new guys but hopefully one of them has some type of decent BB IQ because no one on the Kings does with exception to IT.

Lmao do you actually watch Kings games or are you that dumb? IT is one of the worst passing/IQ PG's in the L and is the worst starting PG in the NBA. IT is dumber than anyone in the starting 5. Dude can't even run a pick n roll to save his life or assist anyone for a easy bucket. I love IT but to act like he has decent BB IQ is beyond idiotic.

[All Net]

Houston are so well set for the future..damn

[B4llin]

This is one of the dumbest things I've read on here.

And considering "here" is ISH, that's really saying something.

Sorry, it just pains me to think of how much better Houston would be without Lin, having replaced him with a decent PG.

[steve franchise]

Sorry, it just pains me to think of how much better Houston would be without Lin, having replaced him with a decent PG.

Lin is playing great but I still think Houston shouldn't have signed him.

Imagine a Harden-Dragic back court. :coleman:

[Kingsfans818]

As a kings fans this trade makes 0 sense

The problem with the team is we have a bunch of pieces with no collaboration and we gave away a 22 year old lotto pick for more pieces

Patrik pat is a nice player but is not the answer to our needs

Toney douglas is useless -- another shoot first undersize guard (thorton , fridette, brooks, thomas )

We dont become better at all and we give away a player with a ton of upside :facepalm

Just ac

[InspiredLebowski]

As a kings fans this trade makes 0 sense

The problem with the team is we have a bunch of pieces with no collaboration and we gave away a 22 year old lotto pick for more pieces

Patrik pat is a nice player but is not the answer to our needs

Toney douglas is useless -- another shoot first undersize guard (thorton , fridette, brooks, thomas )

We dont become better at all and we give away a player with a ton of upside :facepalm

Just acIt was about dumping Garcia to clear money for a sale. That's it. The Magoofs don't give a shit about anything about that. Seriously man, I feel for you. Hope they get a local owner and stay in Sacto.

[andremiller07]

It was about dumping Garcia to clear money for a sale. That's it. The Magoofs don't give a shit about anything about that. Seriously man, I feel for you. Hope they get a local owner and stay in Sacto.

The Hanson group (Seattle) approved the deal as well

[InspiredLebowski]

The Hanson group (Seattle) approved the deal as wellOf course they did. It clears a contract they had no say in. I like Thomas Robinson, but people are overreacting to the quality of player he is and can be. I'm not even sure he'll be a starter on 50+ win type team.

But it's not about that, it's the principle. They just dumped a 5th pick rookie like 65% through his first year just to clear (basically) dead money. None of these players are anything special, but this move goes down on draft night and it's just a straight up Pat Pat and scrubs for the 5th pick people'd be going apeshit. This is a complete clear money move just to ease a sale. That's ****ing awful man.

[andremiller07]

Of course they did. It clears a contract they had no say in. I like Thomas Robinson, but people are overreacting to the quality of player he is and can be. I'm not even sure he'll be a starter on 50+ win type team.

But it's not about that, it's the principle. They just dumped a 5th pick rookie like 65% through his first year just to clear (basically) dead money. None of these players are anything special, but this move goes down on draft night and it's just a straight up Pat Pat and scrubs for the 5th pick people'd be going apeshit. This is a complete clear money move just to ease a sale. That's ****ing awful man.

I agree, T-Rob is going to be a solid player I don't see him being a superstar but its what the Kings got in return which is a complete joke.I think the Kings mistake was actually drafting T-Rob when we had more use for Drummond/Lillard/Barnes. Its just one horrible move after another.

[bdreason]

Cousins, "you want me to stay you better bring in some of my old college friends".


Kings about to make a trade for Bledsoe next.

[andremiller07]

Cousins, "you want me to stay you better bring in some of my old college friends".


Kings about to make a trade for Bledsoe next.

Where did he say that? The Kings made the move to cut costs. If they are going to bring in any college friend it may as well be Wall lol.
Apprently they are going to make another move theres reports involving Atlanta and maybe someone else.

[bdreason]

What I don't get is the Kings didn't even give Robinson a chance. Why would you draft a guy at #5, not give him a chance to play, then trade him half way through his rookie season?


This trade obviously had nothing to do with trying to build a winning basketball team.


I don't think Rockets are worried about winning now. They have some nice young talent signed for the next 4-5 years, and are 1 key player away from being a perennial playoff team... which isn't easy out West.

[bdreason]

Where did he say that? The Kings made the move to cut costs. If they are going to bring in any college friend it may as well be Wall lol.
Apprently they are going to make another move theres reports


It was a bad joke, sry.

[tomtucker]

[B]rockets gonna be good now.......:eek: .......Lakers should have jumped on T-rob........why didn

[CeltsGarlic]

It was a bad joke, sry.

it was a good joke :lol

[Dasher]

This isn't a lateral move for the Rockets. The little money they saved gives them enough space to offer someone else a max contract this summer.

The Kings got the best player in the deal. If T-Rob becomes as good and steady as Patrick Patterson I'd be surprised.

[Mr Exlax]

So wait who's our starting PF now? I liked Robinson in college. Love that motor and that grit. You have to have that in the west.

[andremiller07]

So wait who's our starting PF now? I liked Robinson in college. Love that motor and that grit. You have to have that in the west.
I assume it will be T-Rob, this season when Jason Thompson got into foul trouble early he beasted quiet a few games. He will probably be the best rebounder on the Rockets squad the guy when hes into a game literally pulled more boards than in a short amount of time than Thompson, Hayes or DMC.

T-Rob has a little bit of a butter fingers issue but he makes up for it with the speed and hustle. He at times tends to rush things but hes got way better with that as the season has gone on. His jumpshot is so-so and he will be backed down easily by bigger PF's. Elite athlete and seems like he wants to get better but never got a true chance in the Kings since JT played very solid @PF.

[Mr Exlax]

I assume it will be T-Rob, this season when Jason Thompson got into foul trouble early he beasted quiet a few games. He will probably be the best rebounder on the Rockets squad the guy when hes into a game literally pulled more boards than in a short amount of time than Thompson, Hayes or DMC.

T-Rob has a little bit of a butter fingers issue but he makes up for it with the speed and hustle. He at times tends to rush things but hes got way better with that as the season has gone on. His jumpshot is so-so and he will be backed down easily by bigger PF's. Elite athlete and seems like he wants to get better but never got a true chance in the Kings since JT played very solid @PF.

Appreciate that bro. I can honestly say I haven't seen a single second of him playing this season lol.

[supe12sta12z]

Robinson is a much better rebounder than Patterson. Watching him in college, he's also better than Patterson at running the floor and plays with more energy overall. The reason why this trade hurts the Rockets isn't because of Patterson. It's the combination of both Patterson and Morris. They are losing a lot of production this year. But I don't think they care as they aren't expected to contend this year and with Robinson, he is a rookie and still has the potential to be better than Patterson.

[Mr Exlax]

I wonder how long it's gonna take for them to start printing up the Robinson jerseys. I wanna get one ASAP!

[Miles and Miles]

Lmao do you actually watch Kings games or are you that dumb? IT is one of the worst passing/IQ PG's in the L and is the worst starting PG in the NBA. IT is dumber than anyone in the starting 5. Dude can't even run a pick n roll to save his life or assist anyone for a easy bucket. I love IT but to act like he has decent BB IQ is beyond idiotic.

Have you not watched Tyreke or DMC play for more than 5 minutes? Tyreke has been playing the same way since his rookie year and everyone in the league knows he's going to drive to the basket but he will still do it no matter what. Even if there are 3 guys in the paint to stop him. DMC make moronic passes that make me lose my mind ever night. Turnover after turnover just on stupid plays that a 5th grader that has learned the game wouldn't make.

[Miles and Miles]

I agree, T-Rob is going to be a solid player I don't see him being a superstar but its what the Kings got in return which is a complete joke.I think the Kings mistake was actually drafting T-Rob when we had more use for Drummond/Lillard/Barnes. Its just one horrible move after another.

I don't see him as a star either although his hustle and hops remind me a Gerald Wallace the one year we had him. This deal also reminds me of giving up Gerald Wallace in the expansion draft too, stupid.

[D-Rose]

This is a rather weird trade. Shouldn't the Rockets want more established guys rather than an unproven rookie? They trade away solid rotation pieces for him? Weird. Must be for cap and next year. Not bad pick up either with T-Rob.

[BuffaloBill]

This is a good trade for the Rockets. I think Robinson has a much higher ceiling than Pat. TRob is a great athlete, good rebounder and finisher, also very exciting to watch. Asik and T-Rob will be a beast rebounding/hustle play combo. He could turn out to be a great player if the Rockets keep him and use him correctly.

[supe12sta12z]

This is a rather weird trade. Shouldn't the Rockets want more established guys rather than an unproven rookie? They trade away solid rotation pieces for him? Weird. Must be for cap and next year. Not bad pick up either with T-Rob.

I like what they're doing. They're loading up on young talent on cheap contracts and they still have the capspace to land some veterans. I'm sure Houston is considered an attractive place since they are a young up and coming team with a solid foundation. This has to be the fastest rebuilt I've ever seen.

[tomtucker]

asik, lin, harden, t-rob, parsons ........pretty damm good team......:eek:

[brantonli]

Patrick Patterson is actually a pretty good PF. He's a starting quality PF.

I don't think T-Rob is gonna be a star in this league. Maybe a JJ Hickson type of player.

Houston slightly won this trade. But its not rapage by the Rockets.

Don't let PPat's size fool you. He's got great range, and looks really strong, but is pretty allergic to rebounds. We were all hoping that Patterson could be a great POWER forward but if anything, he's a downgraded version of Scola.

[BuffaloBill]

asik, lin, harden, t-rob, parsons ........pretty damm good team......:eek:


And 4 of those players weren't even on the team last season

[Miles and Miles]

Although I don't like losing T-Rob he's been really overrated on this thread. I can't see him starting in the NBA on any team anytime soon. But I could be wrong.

[supe12sta12z]

Although I don't like losing T-Rob he's been really overrated on this thread. I can't see him starting in the NBA on any team anytime soon. But I could be wrong.

Hard to overrate a guy who was considered a bust before he was drafted by most people here. Most people thought he was a late lottery pick at best.

[Miles and Miles]

Hard to overrate a guy who was considered a bust before he was drafted by most people here. Most people thought he was a late lottery pick at best.

Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.

[supe12sta12z]

Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.

No one said that. :oldlol:

[Mr Exlax]

Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.

Damn I haven't read that on here anywhere. Who's gonna score in the paint for us though? I guess Asik will be the #1 option down there. Can T-Rob post up?

[tomtucker]

And 4 of those players weren't even on the team last season

rockets are trying to build a champion.......or what ?

[Jailblazers7]

Well when people say he's going to be starting tomorrow for the Rockets, he's a beast, he's the best rebounder, etc, etc. THAT would all be overrating him.

The reason people are high on the trade for him is because he has a pretty good chance to fit into the Rockets system. He will be a high energy rebounder/screener who will get to run the floor more on the Rockets. Its a scenario where he can play to his strengths while having time to develop his weaknesses.

[Miles and Miles]

Didn't realize that the Rockets traded away all the PFs. T-Rob should actually get some playing time, maybe he will get a chance to develop. Good for him.

[longtime lurker]

The best part about this trade is that the Kings only added to their 1000 guards when they should have been trying to clear the glut instead they added to it :oldlol:

[Miles and Miles]

The best part about this trade is that the Kings only added to their 1000 guards when they should have been trying to clear the glut instead they added to it :oldlol:

Positions or players on the court weren't a factor, just money.

[hawkfan]

Tyreke Evans to the Hawks for 2 first round picks (the Hawks' own pick and the Nets' pick from the Joe Johnson trade).

If Sacramento is going into destroy the roster because of salary reasons, then this at least gives the Kings some return, versus that garbage deal of yesterday.

[longtime lurker]

Positions or players on the court weren't a factor, just money.

I know but they took in Tony Douglas which when you consider Brooks, Thornton, Jimmer, Tyreke, Thomas and Salmons in the mix 6 players at the PG or SG position. That makes no damn sense.

[chips93]

The reason people are high on the trade for him is because he has a pretty good chance to fit into the Rockets system. He will be a high energy rebounder/screener who will get to run the floor more on the Rockets. Its a scenario where he can play to his strengths while having time to develop his weaknesses.

he fits well in the rockets system?

they run tons of pick and rolls, with asik as the screener, and the pf spotting up, marcus morris and patrick patterson are both shooting a career high in attempts from 3. the rockets clearly out a huge emphasis in their pfs shooting 3, something robinson hasnt shown the ability to do.

so i guess the rockets think that robinson is talented enough to justify the poor fit, becasue he definitely doesnt fit the system that they are currently running.

[Miles and Miles]

I know but they took in Tony Douglas which when you consider Brooks, Thornton, Jimmer, Tyreke, Thomas and Salmons in the mix 6 players at the PG or SG position. That makes no damn sense.

Well Salmons is mostly a SF but I know your point. I am sure that Coach Smart will try to play them all too. :banghead:

[stevieming]

Patterson was clearly the leader on the UK team. He's not going to be some yes man that treats Cousins like a prodigy. Not sure it will make a difference but it certainly can't hurt.

Ppat is a stand up guy. He's pretty outspoken and isn't afraid to voice his opinion.

When Houston was going through the 7 game losing streak, he called out Harden for being too ball greedy and taking too many hero shots. He also criticised himself for not rebounding enough, which was true.

He won't pander to DMC.

[stevieming]

he fits well in the rockets system?

they run tons of pick and rolls, with asik as the screener, and the pf spotting up, marcus morris and patrick patterson are both shooting a career high in attempts from 3. the rockets clearly out a huge emphasis in their pfs shooting 3, something robinson hasnt shown the ability to do.

so i guess the rockets think that robinson is talented enough to justify the poor fit, becasue he definitely doesnt fit the system that they are currently running.

yeah but he'll be great on pick and rolls for Lin and Harden, rather than always a jump shot, Lin and Harden can actually now attempt to throw alley oop passes....

[chips93]

yeah but he'll be great on pick and rolls for Lin and Harden, rather than always a jump shot, Lin and Harden can actually now attempt to throw alley oop passes....

true, but the way the rockets have been playing, they have always had a shooter at the 4.

if they are gonna play asik and robinson together, either robinson will have to change his game (more jumpshots), or the rockets will have to change their offensive strategy, less spacing, less 3pt shooting, and a more traditional offense.

[DuMa]

has t-rob done anything like this dunk over dwight, lately?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eWHLqGzaho

[brantonli]

true, but the way the rockets have been playing, they have always had a shooter at the 4.

if they are gonna play asik and robinson together, either robinson will have to change his game (more jumpshots), or the rockets will have to change their offensive strategy, less spacing, less 3pt shooting, and a more traditional offense.

That's more a product of the players Mchale has rather than the system Houston needs (a stretch four). If Mchale truly was targeting that kind of system, Morey wouldn't have traded away Patpat and Morris at the same time. Robinson won't be asked to take those silly three pointers (I always hated Ppat taking those 3s) and we can actually have somebody roll to the basket that isn't named Omer Stone-handed Asik.

[andremiller07]

he fits well in the rockets system?

they run tons of pick and rolls, with asik as the screener, and the pf spotting up, marcus morris and patrick patterson are both shooting a career high in attempts from 3. the rockets clearly out a huge emphasis in their pfs shooting 3, something robinson hasnt shown the ability to do.

so i guess the rockets think that robinson is talented enough to justify the poor fit, becasue he definitely doesnt fit the system that they are currently running.

T-Rob fits very well into the Rockets system, a large part of his major success in college was the pick n roll, the main reason other than playing time in why he struggled in the Kings was cause not a single guard can run the pick n roll. T-Rob is the perfect PF to have next to Lin or Harden, he can use his quickness on rolls to the rim and get plenty of easy buckets.

[stevieming]

true, but the way the rockets have been playing, they have always had a shooter at the 4.

if they are gonna play asik and robinson together, either robinson will have to change his game (more jumpshots), or the rockets will have to change their offensive strategy, less spacing, less 3pt shooting, and a more traditional offense.

yeah but I think that's because of ppat, he never rolls in, always drifts out for the pick and pop...

When Lin runs the pick and roll with greg smith, smith always rolls to the hoop.

Now that Lin is shooting better, the spacing should be OK without a stretch four. Not a big fan of the PF taking threes anyway unless they're Dirk, and even Dirk admits he takes more twos then threes.

[B-Easy8]

Is he going to start straight away for the Rockets?

Who else do they have at the 4 spot?

[bdreason]

Houston isn't going to win a title running their current system. They ran that offense because that's the players they had. I bet it actually drives McHale crazy watching his team chuck all these 3's... but they simply don't have a post threat.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Goddamn Kings organization is run by lunatics. Not only did they draft Jimmer in the top 10 they draft T-Rob and give up on him. Then when they hit an absolute goldmine in I.T they sign Aaron Brooks to take up his minutes.


they actually thought that they were potentially putting a play-off team together by signing all them role players to go along with the young talent. instead, the kings are looking like the old rockets (like the suns), with demarcus cousins.

[ElPigto]

Houston isn't going to win a title running their current system. They ran that offense because that's the players they had. I bet it actually drives McHale crazy watching his team chuck all these 3's... but they simply don't have a post threat.

They might not win a championship but it is making the owner happy. :lol :lol

Les has always wanted the Rockets to be a running team, he's been pushing Morey hard to make this a running team and he finally got his wish this season. I definitely don't expect a championship with this system until we develop/sign/trade for a legit post player, but at least it is fun to watch.

[noob cake]

Is he going to start straight away for the Rockets?

Who else do they have at the 4 spot?

I'm guessing that this will be our rotation.

Asik/Smith
Motiejunas/Robinson/Anxiety Trooper
Parsons/Delfino/Jones
Harden/Garcia
Lin/Beverly

Don't worry, we still got plenty of tweener PF's.

[gengiskhan]

I'm guessing that this will be our rotation.

Asik/Smith
Motiejunas/Robinson/Anxiety Trooper
Parsons/Delfino/Jones
Harden/Garcia
Lin/Beverly

Don't worry, we still got plenty of tweener PF's.

Add Howard to that List next yr.

That nikka jumping drowning ship called Los Angeles Fakers.

[barkleynash]

A core of Lin, harden,parsons, Robinson, asik to go along with cheap team option contracts of delfino, Greg smith. Then they have guys like Terrence jones and montajuinus and white. One or two of those guys might turn into a solid rotation players.
They also have excellent cap space with parsons also being so cheap.