When do "bandwagon" fans become regular fans?

[SpecialQue]

A month or so ago the Lakers blew out some team on the road and were getting loud cheers. Kobe even got louder MVP chants than he gets at Staples. In the GT, someone here commented on all the "bandwagon Laker fans" there, but seriously, at this point, are they still bandwagon fans? After two 2nd round exits and a sub-500 record?

The overall question here is: when can someone no longer be considered a bandwagon fan?

[maybeshewill13]

A month or so ago the Lakers blew out some team on the road and were getting loud cheers. Kobe even got louder MVP chants than he gets at Staples. In the GT, someone here commented on all the "bandwagon Laker fans" there, but seriously, at this point, are they still bandwagon fans? After two 2nd round exits and a sub-500 record?

The overall question here is: when can someone no longer be considered a bandwagon fan?

You have been making the playoffs/finals for an extended time and spent no practically no time down the bottom of the table. I'd say you'd have to stick through a 2-3 year slump of being shit and not making the playoffs before calling yourself a real fan. Half of the Laker fans have only been watching the game since they have been winning rings, they haven't even seen the Lakers suck ass yet. Watch them jump ship as soon as they miss the playoffs a couple of years.

[CHi1PriDe]

I really don't consider Laker fans to be bandwagon fans since the Lakers have been pretty consistent. Heat fans on the other hand, is another story. I remember seeing so many heat/lebron threads during 2011 playoffs and as soon as the heat lost, they all vanished. Now they're back again stronger than ever. Pre LeBron heat fans, probably had the least amount of fans on the board and who actually attend games, pretty pathetic. Bandwagon fans become real fans when they support their team through thick and thin :cheers:

[TheMarkMadsen]

You have been making the playoffs/finals for an extended time and spent no practically no time down the bottom of the table. I'd say you'd have to stick through a 2-3 year slump of being shit and not making the playoffs before calling yourself a real fan. Half of the Laker fans have only been watching the game since they have been winning rings, they haven't even seen the Lakers suck ass yet. Watch them jump ship as soon as they miss the playoffs a couple of years.

Yes, advice from the sonics fan turned OKC fan who's ready to be a sonics fan again at the drop of a dime while still cheering for OKC is exactly the type of expertise that we need on this subject.

Anyways, as long as you stuck by them 100% through the bad times you're not a bandwagoner.

For instance fans that starting following the Lakers in 2000 & has stuck by the team ever since is someone I wouldn't consider a bandwagoner.

the HEAT fans from 06 who disappears for 5 years only to reappear after the decision are pretty shameless

[Heavincent]

the HEAT fans from 06 who disappears for 5 years only to reappear after the decision are pretty shameless

ISH is infested with them.

[RedBlackAttack]

Yes, advice from the sonics fan turned OKC fan who's ready to be a sonics fan again at the drop of a dime while still cheering for OKC is exactly the type of expertise that we need on this subject.

Anyways, as long as you stuck by them 100% through the bad times you're not a bandwagoner.

For instance fans that starting following the Lakers in 2000 & has stuck by the team ever since is someone I wouldn't consider a bandwagoner.

the HEAT fans from 06 who disappears for 5 years only to reappear after the decision are pretty shameless
How about those who gleefully cheered for the Cavaliers for seven years and now take great delight in every opportunity to talk about how bad the franchise was during that span?

[jimmy77x]

Yes, advice from the sonics fan turned OKC fan who's ready to be a sonics fan again at the drop of a dime while still cheering for OKC is exactly the type of expertise that we need on this subject.

Anyways, as long as you stuck by them 100% through the bad times you're not a bandwagoner.

For instance fans that starting following the Lakers in 2000 & has stuck by the team ever since is someone I wouldn't consider a bandwagoner.

the HEAT fans from 06 who disappears for 5 years only to reappear after the decision are pretty shameless

And all of them will sware up and down that they were long time heat fans :lol if the heat dont win it all this year they will disappear yet again. The life of bandwagon fans.

[dbugz]

the right question is, "Is there such thing as legit fan in the internetz?"

- TheRealRajonRondo

[Legends66NBA7]

I would say... give them time to mature into fans who are more interested in the entire NBA, rather than ones who just want to follow a team until the major pieces are gone.. that way, they could just become regular fans of the NBA or stick to the team that used to have their favourite players.

Usually for the better for viewership sake, sports needs it's new/bandwagon fans.

[red1]

You have been making the playoffs/finals for an extended time and spent no practically no time down the bottom of the table. I'd say you'd have to stick through a 2-3 year slump of being shit and not making the playoffs before calling yourself a real fan. Half of the Laker fans have only been watching the game since they have been winning rings, they haven't even seen the Lakers suck ass yet. Watch them jump ship as soon as they miss the playoffs a couple of years.
+1

How about those who gleefully cheered for the Cavaliers for seven years and now take great delight in every opportunity to talk about how bad the franchise was during that span?
Pauk and his ilk are shameless

[SpecialQue]

I would say... give them time to mature into fans who are more interested in the entire NBA, rather than ones who just want to follow a team until the major pieces are gone.. that way, they could just become regular fans of the NBA or stick to the team that used to have their favourite players.

Yeah, a part of me thinks that a lot of these fans are really Kobe fans, and since he's always been a Laker, they've always been fans of the Lakers. Once he retires and another player becomes the leader I guess we'll find out for sure.

[CHi1PriDe]

And all of them will sware up and down that they were long time heat fans :lol if the heat dont win it all this year they will disappear yet again. The life of bandwagon fans.

The few heat fans from 2006 at least deserves some props since they watch heat ball prior to LeBron joining. Heat fans grew larger as soon as LeBron and bosh joined wade but disappeared when the heat lost in the finals. The pandemic started when Miami won it last year, and before we know it, its over :facepalm

[Xsatyr]

When their teams starts to suck and they keep watching...

[Blingster]

When your a fan of the Denver Nuggets:facepalm

[jimmy77x]

Example of teenaged bandwagon heat fan tazb

http://i47.tinypic.com/30vg9ww.png

[red1]

Example of teenaged bandwagon heat fan tazb

http://i47.tinypic.com/30vg9ww.png
This is actually a very accurate description of you.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

You have been making the playoffs/finals for an extended time and spent no practically no time down the bottom of the table. I'd say you'd have to stick through a 2-3 year slump of being shit and not making the playoffs before calling yourself a real fan.

When their teams starts to suck and they keep watching...
qft's

[RedBlackAttack]

There are a slew of Heat "fans" who joined the site in July of 2010. We really should do a comprehensive list. :oldlol:

[jimmy77x]

This is actually a very accurate description of you.

Same could be said about you.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

There are a slew of Heat "fans" who joined the site in July of 2010. We really should do a comprehensive list. :oldlol:

June 2012 should be even longer. :oldlol:

[NuggetsFan]

After two 2nd round exits and a sub-500 record?


Jesus Christ :oldlol: ... there are teams in the league who would KILL for that. Sub .500 record isn't even that bad for some teams. 2 trips to the 2nd round? That's pretty successful for the majority of the league.

Just because you aren't winning rings and making the finals every year doesn't mean you're up shits creek. Welcome to the NBA Laker fans.

[red1]

Same could be said about you.
:oldlol: jimmy boy getting flamed up by everyone. "shut the **** up you ****ing piece of shit ****** ass queer"

LOL

[willds09]

When teamz stop forming "super"teamz :rolleyes:

[Blingster]

Jesus Christ :oldlol: ... there are teams in the league who would KILL for that. Sub .500 record isn't even that bad for some teams. 2 trips to the 2nd round? That's pretty successful for the majority of the league.

Just because you aren't winning rings and making the finals every year doesn't mean you're up shits creek. Welcome to the NBA Laker fans.

At this point, we would be happy to make it to the 2nd round once. Who cares if we lose once we get there. Small victories:D

[jimmy77x]

:oldlol: jimmy boy getting flamed up by everyone. "shut the **** up you ****ing piece of shit ****** ass queer"

LOL

:lol hop off my nuts son u really need too. And if you think i really care about some loser kids calling me a queer on an internet forum you just as pathetic as i thought. you actually care what people think about you here :lol go play with mr left and right hand get off my nuts.

[red1]

:lol hop off my nuts son u really need too. And if you think i really care about some loser kids calling me a queer on an internet forum you just as pathetic as i thought. you actually care what people think about you here :lol go play with mr left and right hand get off my nuts.
oh jimmy-boy you so silly, always making me laugh and shit :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

June 2012 should be even longer. :oldlol:

Lol to be fair though ISH was only open for registration for like 2 days all of 2012

[NumberSix]

I make it a general rule to not tell people who they should cheer for or why. The ONLY time I find it lame is when somebody has a home team, but cheers for some other team they have nothing to do with for no reason.

Like, if you're a lifelong resident of let's say Detroit, but you're for an OKC fan, that shit is just wack IMO.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lol to be fair though ISH was only open for registration for like 2 days all of 2012

Touche.


I make it a general rule to not tell people who they should cheer for or why. The ONLY time I find it lame is when somebody has a home team, but cheers for some other team they have nothing to do with for no reason.

Like, if you're a lifelong resident of let's say Detroit, but you're for an OKC fan, that shit is just wack IMO.

Celtics fans that live in LA make me want to puke. It's like.....WTF are you doing? :oldlol:

[kenny817]

There are no real Heat fans. Just Bron stans.

Pay them no mind

[DaSeba5]

There are no real Heat fans. Just Bron stans.

Pay them no mind

I'm not a LeBron stan. This statement is not true at all.

[DaSeba5]

There are a slew of Heat "fans" who joined the site in July of 2010. We really should do a comprehensive list. :oldlol:

I already made that thread.

There are real Heat fans here. We know who the trolls/bandwagon fans are.

[AlonzoGOAT]

June 2012 should be even longer. :oldlol:
That's because they finally opened registration on this site on june. all those days of lurking were finally over :lol

[NumberSix]

I already made that thread.

There are real Heat fans here. We know who the trolls/bandwagon fans are.
To what end? To alienate fans of the same team you're a fan of? What's the benefit?

That's like saying someone who lives in West Palm or Davie isn't as legit of a fan as people in Miami Beach.

btw: YOUR join date is July 2012.

[maybeshewill13]

Example of teenaged bandwagon heat fan tazb

http://i47.tinypic.com/30vg9ww.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qu2JtOs.jpg

[DaSeba5]

To what end? To alienate fans of the same team you're a fan of? What's the benefit?

That's like saying someone who lives in West Palm or Davie isn't as legit of a fan as people in Miami Beach.

btw: YOUR join date is July 2012.

No to show who the real Heat fans are so they don't get classed with the bandwagon fans who troll here.

And I wanted to register in early 2012, but it wasn't open.

[DMV2]

DaSeba, bump your Heat fans thread.

[maybeshewill13]

Touche.



Celtics fans that live in LA make me want to puke. It's like.....WTF are you doing? :oldlol:


Those exist? :biggums:

[DaSeba5]

DaSeba, bump your Heat fans thread.

ok

[AlonzoGOAT]

http://i.imgur.com/Qu2JtOs.jpg
never seen that one before :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Those exist? :biggums:

Yep. It's ****ing nauseating.

[NumberSix]

Those exist? :biggums:
Yeah, but that's more acceptable.

LA is a transient city. If you're a Celtics fan who moves from the NE area to LA, I wouldn't expect you suddenly become a Lakers fan.

The dumb thing is when you you have a person who was born and raised in Manhattan, still lives there. and they're Clipper fans.....

It's like, WTF are you doing? You have a home team. Why are you rooting for the Clippers?

[AlonzoGOAT]

Touche.



Celtics fans that live in LA make me want to puke. It's like.....WTF are you doing? :oldlol:
Is that really a bandwagon fan tho :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yeah, but that's more acceptable.

LA is a transient city. If you're a Celtics fan who moves from the NE area to LA, I wouldn't expect you suddenly become a Lakers fan.

The dumb thing is when you you have a person who was born and raised in Manhattan, still lives there. and they're Clipper fans.....

It's like, WTF are you doing? You have a home team. Why are you rooting for the Clippers?

That's acceptable in my book as well. Being born and raised in LA YET you're a Boston fan? Different story.

[DaSeba5]

I always get shit for this, but how do you root for a team with no history with where you live?

I don't understand how there can be a Heat fan in Minnesota with no connections to South Florida unless you bandwagon. Even if you started to root for them when they weren't good, how do you become a fan of them?

[AlonzoGOAT]

I always get shit for this, but how do you root for a team with no history with where you live?

I don't understand how there can be a Heat fan in Minnesota with no connections to South Florida unless you bandwagon. Even if you started to root for them when they weren't good, how do you become a fan of them?
I know people who became phin fans from outside of florida from watching dan marino and remained phin fans. I wouldn't call them bandwagon fans today.

[kenny817]

I'm not a LeBron stan. This statement is not true at all.

You're in Florida you are excluded

I'm talking about these idiots who were Cavs fans since '03 and became Heat fans in 2010

There was a pic going around on twitter about a Cav fan his bio said #TeamCavs then when Bron joined the Heat his bio said #TeamHeat...somebody put those two pics together lol it was hilarious

[LikeABosh]

I always get shit for this, but how do you root for a team with no history with where you live?

I don't understand how there can be a Heat fan in Minnesota with no connections to South Florida unless you bandwagon. Even if you started to root for them when they weren't good, how do you become a fan of them?
maybe it's possible for someone to live in South Florida then move away? :lebronamazed:

[DaSeba5]

maybe it's possible for someone to live in South Florida then move away? :lebronamazed:

I said no connections to South Florida

[DMV2]

maybe it's possible for someone to live in South Florida then move away? :lebronamazed:
Why would anybody want to do that? :oldlol:

[kenny817]

I always get shit for this, but how do you root for a team with no history with where you live?

I don't understand how there can be a Heat fan in Minnesota with no connections to South Florida unless you bandwagon. Even if you started to root for them when they weren't good, how do you become a fan of them?

I'm from Dallas I've always been an Ohio State fan cuz I always wanted to go there...

It's not about who you root for...its more of when you started rooted for them and if you stick with them when they suck

[DaSeba5]

I know people who became phin fans from outside of florida from watching dan marino and remained phin fans. I wouldn't call them bandwagon fans today.

I know some too, but what makes them stick wit the team after Marino after he retired, especially since the Fins have been down lately.

[LikeABosh]

I said no connections to South Florida
oh haha my bad. Well there's only 32 cities with NBA teams so it's not unreasonable to just pick a team/player you like and root for them

[TheMarkMadsen]

How do you guys feel bout people born in the states but don't werent born or dont live in an NBA city or state?

I fall into that category

[NumberSix]

I always get shit for this, but how do you root for a team with no history with where you live?

I don't understand how there can be a Heat fan in Minnesota with no connections to South Florida unless you bandwagon. Even if you started to root for them when they weren't good, how do you become a fan of them?
What happens if you live in Transylvania or Tokyo? :confusedshrug:

You have no connection to ANY NBA team. If you're a basketball fan, you're probably going to have a favorite team or favorite player/players.

Whatever the reason they have to favor one team, who are you to say that's not a legit enough reason?

Even in America. What if you live in Des Moines Iowa? Iowa doesn't have a team. Why can't you be a Heat fan or a Grizzlies fan?

[eriX]

Does people who are fans of players only and follow whichever team they're on get regarded as bandwagon fans?

[DaSeba5]

What happens if you live in Transylvania or Tokyo? :confusedshrug:

You have no connection to ANY NBA team. If you're a basketball fan, you're probably going to have a favorite team or favorite player/players.

Whatever the reason they have to favor one team, who are you to say that's not a legit enough reason?

Even in America. What if you live in Des Moines Iowa? Iowa doesn't have a team. Why can't you be a Heat fan or a Grizzlies fan?

I'm just wondering what makes people stick with the teams after those players retire, or move on. How many Heat fans who became Heat fans in 2010 will remain fans after the Heat stop being good?

[AlonzoGOAT]

I know some too, but what makes them stick wit the team after Marino after he retired, especially since the Fins have been down lately.
My guess is they just decided to settle in and if this was that was their first team to root for even better. I personally can't root for other sports team outside of miami/forida/US national teams. That's why I can't get into soccer leagues like EPL (Except following some of the USMNT players in there) and there are not florida based MLS teams :( . I just started getting into hockey so I've just started following the panthers although I know they're nothing close to world beaters.

[NumberSix]

I'm just wondering what makes people stick with the teams after those players retire, or move on. How many Heat fans who became Heat fans in 2010 will remain fans after the Heat stop being good?
Why does it matter?

Seriously. In what possible way does it affect you if they stay fans or don't?

[kenny817]

Does people who are fans of players only and follow whichever team they're on get regarded as bandwagon fans?

Yup...look at Bron stans for example

[DaSeba5]

Why does it matter?

Seriously. In what possible way does it affect you if they stay fans or don't?

It doesn't if those people are quality and reasonable posters. If they are just trolls or LeBron stans like a lot of them here, they give the real Heat fans a bad name, and people assume every Heat fan are like those people.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Why does it matter?

Seriously. In what possible way does it affect you if they stay fans or don't?

Why are you getting all bent out of shape for? :oldlol:

[Money 23]

Why are you getting all bent out of shape for? :oldlol:
He's feeling insecure about his clinging to Bron Bron's nut sack, while supposedly being a Laker fan. Knowing full well if he was a legit Laker fan, LeBron and Miami would arguably be public enemy number one. His stanship of LeBron and fierce argumentation over him basically exposes him as a non biased "Laker Fan". So the projection leaks through in grilling a poster about bandwagon fandom.

[NumberSix]

Yup...look at Bron stans for example
Yeah, but people take that too far. Before LeBron joined the Heat, I didn't give a flaming bag of dogshit about LeBron James, yet I constantly get accused of being a bandwagon fan who switched from being a Cavs fan to a Heat fan. I've never for a day in my life rooted for any fcuking Cleveland team.

I just don't like people labelling anybody who likes any team as a bandwagon fan when they don't even know what they're talking about.

I see people call Pauk a bandwagon fan. Ok. That's fine. If you've seen with your own eyes that he switched from being a Cavs fan to a Heat fan, then you're not just guessing it out of nowhere.

I've seen people try to call LikeABosh a bandwagon fan though. How the fck would you know? You've never seen him cheer for some other team. You don't know his past.

[AlonzoGOAT]

My guess is they just decided to settle in and if this was that was their first team to root for even better. I personally can't root for other sports team outside of miami/forida/US national teams. That's why I can't get into soccer leagues like EPL (Except following some of the USMNT players in there) and there are not florida based MLS teams :( . I just started getting into hockey so I've just started following the panthers although I know they're nothing close to world beaters.
By the way is there a way I can follow a certain club in the EPL or if not get all games from the US? Maybe I'll try one day to get into it

[NumberSix]

Why are you getting all bent out of shape for? :oldlol:
Uh, I'm not. We're having a conversation. People know EXACTLY what my history is dog.

[DaSeba5]

Yeah, but people take that too far. Before LeBron joined the Heat, I didn't give a flaming bag of dogshit about LeBron James, yet I constantly get accused of being a bandwagon fan who switched from being a Cavs fan to a Heat fan. I've never for a day in my life rooted for any fcuking Cleveland team.

I just don't like people labelling anybody who likes any team as a bandwagon fan when they don't even know what they're talking about.

I see people call Pauk a bandwagon fan. Ok. That's fine. If you've seen with your own eyes that he switched from being a Cavs fan to a Heat fan, then you're not just guessing it out of nowhere.

I've seen people try to call LikeABosh a bandwagon fan though. How the fck would you know? You've never seen him cheer for some other team. You don't know his past.

Like I said, we know who the bandwagon fans/trolls are. We can tell by their posts. If they post reasonable and quality posts as an average fan, then nobody has a problem. However, that is not the case here. Many of the post-2010 Heat fans troll and dickride LeBron. Now I am a post 2010 Heat fan on ISH, but I don't do that, and people don't jump on me as much for being a bandwagon fan. I'm just saying those people make the real fans look bad because people generalize all Heat fans with those people.

IDC if you bandwagon the Heat as long as you at least be a solid poster here.

[NumberSix]

He's feeling insecure about his clinging to Bron Bron's nut sack, while supposedly being a Laker fan. Knowing full well if he was a legit Laker fan, LeBron and Miami would arguably be public enemy number one. His stanship of LeBron and fierce argumentation over him basically exposes him as a non biased "Laker Fan". So the projection leaks through in grilling a poster about bandwagon fandom.
What? :roll:

Why? :confusedshrug:

Oh, that's right. That ages old Heat/Lakers rivalry, right? :rolleyes:

[Money 23]

What? :roll:

Why? :confusedshrug:

Oh, that's right. That ages old Heat/Lakers rivalry, right? :rolleyes:
It's a theory. I've never met a legit Laker fan who hates Kobe the way you do. I mean even if you don't like him, you'd have to respect that man and what he's done for your franchise for a decade and a half.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Yeah, but people take that too far. Before LeBron joined the Heat, I didn't give a flaming bag of dogshit about LeBron James, yet I constantly get accused of being a bandwagon fan who switched from being a Cavs fan to a Heat fan. I've never for a day in my life rooted for any fcuking Cleveland team.

I just don't like people labelling anybody who likes any team as a bandwagon fan when they don't even know what they're talking about.

I see people call Pauk a bandwagon fan. Ok. That's fine. If you've seen with your own eyes that he switched from being a Cavs fan to a Heat fan, then you're not just guessing it out of nowhere.

I've seen people try to call LikeABosh a bandwagon fan though. How the fck would you know? You've never seen him cheer for some other team. You don't know his past.

Why are you so but hurt?

All you ever do on here is ride Lebron's nuts, troll Laker/ Kobe topics, Melo/knicks topics and Okc/ Durant topics, you bash any and evey player that is a threat to Lebron and make attention grabbing ploys with every post you make.

You're a Lebron Stan who claims to be a Lakers fan, yet you admitted before that you stopped being a laker fan after Shaq left.. What a joke

[NumberSix]

Why are you so but hurt?

All you ever do on here is ride Lebron's nuts, troll Laker/ Kobe topics, Melo/knicks topics and Okc/ Durant topics, you bash any and evey player that is a threat to Lebron and make attention grabbing ploys with every post you make.

You're a Lebron Stan who claims to be a Lakers fan, yet you admitted before that you stopped being a laker fan after Shaq left.. What a joke
Oh, was that right after you admitted you stopped liking women after you watched "The Crying Game".....

See, I can make up shit that you never said too.



Believe it or not, I say exactly what I believe to be true about Melo/Kobe/Durant.....


Well, maybe not Kobe. I admittedly do ramp that up a little for effect.

[Money 23]

Why are you so but hurt?

All you ever do on here is ride Lebron's nuts, troll Laker/ Kobe topics, Melo/knicks topics and Okc/ Durant topics, you bash any and evey player that is a threat to Lebron and make attention grabbing ploys with every post you make.

You're a Lebron Stan who claims to be a Lakers fan, yet you admitted before that you stopped being a laker fan after Shaq left.. What a joke
And then there is all of this too, which is the best description of you that I could think of ... specifically the bolded sections.

[DaSeba5]

Why are you so but hurt?

All you ever do on here is ride Lebron's nuts, troll Laker/ Kobe topics, Melo/knicks topics and Okc/ Durant topics, you bash any and evey player that is a threat to Lebron and make attention grabbing ploys with every post you make.

You're a Lebron Stan who claims to be a Lakers fan, yet you admitted before that you stopped being a laker fan after Shaq left.. What a joke

This is what I'm saying. I don't mind if he bandwagons the Heat, but if he does this, then people start saying all Heat fans do this, and we all get a bad rep for it.

[NumberSix]

This is what I'm saying. I don't mind if he bandwagons the Heat, but if he does this, then people start saying all Heat fans do this, and we all get a bad rep for it.
Lol. How ME does telling the obvious truth make YOU look bad? :confusedshrug:


Yeah, I say Melo is an overrated selfish under-achiever and that Durant get babied by the officials. You gonna tell me I'm wrong? G'head. Tell me I'm wrong about that.


btw, call me crazy, but I'm not sure your "rep" on a forum should be a major priority.

[TheMarkMadsen]

And then there is all of this too, which is the best description of you that I could think of ... specifically the bolded sections.


yeah because i ride Lebron's nuts and bash every player that is a thread to Lebron :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Oh, was that right after you admitted you stopped liking women after you watched "The Crying Game".....

See, I can make up shit that you never said too.



Believe it or not, I say exactly what I believe to be true about Melo/Kobe/Durant.....


Well, maybe not Kobe. I admittedly do ramp that up a little for effect.


I became a Heat fan because of Shaq and remained a Heat fan even when he left.

And since you admittingly don't like Kobe it's pretty safe to assume this is where you stopped rooting for the Lakers?

I mean really, you're a fan of a team but you hate the one guy who's been a focal point of their past 5 championships.. i mean really?

[RedBlackAttack]

It doesn't if those people are quality and reasonable posters. If they are just trolls or LeBron stans like a lot of them here, they give the real Heat fans a bad name, and people assume every Heat fan are like those people.
I feel for you... Trust me, I do. We dealt with them for the better part of a decade. That is the downside to having a really great player on your team, unfortunately.

[NumberSix]

And since you admittingly don't like Kobe it's pretty safe to assume this is where you stopped rooting for the Lakers?

I mean really, you're a fan of a team but you hate the one guy who's been a focal point of their past 5 championships.. i mean really?
I don't "hate" Kobe. He's CERTAINLY not my ideal choice for a franchise player, but I don't hate the guy.

Full disclosure, I hope when Kobe and LeBron's contracts are up, Kobe retires and the Lakers sign LeBron.

[DaSeba5]

I feel for you... Trust me, I do. We dealt with them for the better part of a decade. That is the downside to having a really great player on your team, unfortunately.

Yes, you're right. I've never rooted for a team this good. All my teams have always been under the radar or mediocre. This is all new to me.

[BrickingStar]

yeah because i ride Lebron's nuts and bash every player that is a thread to Lebron :roll:
He speaks the truth nearly all the post I see from you are anti lebron or digs at him and the heat. No idea why you rep a tronto homer when you never talk about them.

[SpecialQue]

Jesus Christ :oldlol: ... there are teams in the league who would KILL for that. Sub .500 record isn't even that bad for some teams. 2 trips to the 2nd round? That's pretty successful for the majority of the league.

Just because you aren't winning rings and making the finals every year doesn't mean you're up shits creek. Welcome to the NBA Laker fans.

Believe me, this wasn't a "woe is me" thing. It just seems like now would be a strange time to randomly start rooting for the Lakers. I mean, Kobe's been on this team forever...people who were living in their dad's sacs when he was drafted are now going to prom and driving. When could they have been fans when the team had a really big dry spell? I'm willing to give most of them the benefit of the doubt, but then again, they ARE my favorite team.

Anyhow, it's kind of sad that this thread, like nearly every other thread here, has devolved into a general "fvck Lebron fans" thread. :facepalm

[TheMarkMadsen]

He speaks the truth nearly all the post I see from you are anti lebron or digs at him and the heat. No idea why you rep a tronto homer when you never talk about them.

these "digs" you speak of, are mostly me not agreeing that Lebron is better than Jordan or is an all time top 6 player already.. When people are discussing him being MVP, best player in the league or anything else about his game i have nothing negative to say because i agree with that?

lately i've been a little anti heat/lebron more than usual because i feel his fans are hyping him up like he's better than prime MJ.. and thats just..no.

and i pay respect to the dope ass throwbacks of Toronto? so what? Also it was a little anti jinx after they beat the Lakers, and hey since then the Lakers have been playing half way decently so :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I don't "hate" Kobe. He's CERTAINLY not my ideal choice for a franchise player, but I don't hate the guy.

Full disclosure, I hope when Kobe and LeBron's contracts are up, Kobe retires and the Lakers sign LeBron.

:applause:

and if we're all being honest here, my anti Lebron attitude doesn't come from a dislike of Lebron, i was a HUGE Bron fan when he came into the L, still have his Cavs jersey, i just started resenting the media's admiration to label this guy as better than everybody from such an early age, when the comparisons were first made back in like 06 to Kobe. and the media started asking who was better i felt like it was waay to pre mature at the time, and just a typical ESPN thing to do.

Now i feel the same way, with the Jordan comparisons..

let the guy repeat as champion before we start comparing him to MJ

[CelticBaller]

When you stop being a frontrunner and stay with the team through it's worst imo

[I<3NBA]

because i don't live in the US, have no ties and feel no loyalty to any one city, i will always be a bandwagon fan. i follow my favorite players and root for the teams they are on. i would however, root for the team where i live if i ever move there.

my history of fandom since i started following the NBA

Bulls (Pippen)
Kings (Webber-Christie era)
Suns (Nash MVP years)
Cavs (Lebron)
Heat (Lebron)

[alleykat]

:applause:

and if we're all being honest here, my anti Lebron attitude doesn't come from a dislike of Lebron, i was a HUGE Bron fan when he came into the L, still have his Cavs jersey, i just started resenting the media's admiration to label this guy as better than everybody from such an early age, when the comparisons were first made back in like 06 to Kobe. and the media started asking who was better i felt like it was waay to pre mature at the time, and just a typical ESPN thing to do.

Now i feel the same way, with the Jordan comparisons..

let the guy repeat as champion before we start comparing him to MJ

No offense brah but that ain't any better than bandwagoning.....if u a true MJ fan u would know amount of hate Jordan received after being probably the biggest media sensation even before his first retirement...

Almost everybody is a bandwagon MJ fan, having never been a chitown fan before he rocked the league...remember when NY and Brooklyn rode Jordan because he happened to have been born there? Wasn't THE DUNK Starks the man after he dunked on MJ and Grant? Spike Lee ring a bell?

Trolling is one thing and all in good fun, but Bandwagon hating is not any better than being a bandwagon fan......

[TheMarkMadsen]

No offense brah but that ain't any better than bandwagoning.....if u a true MJ fan u would know amount of hate Jordan received after being probably the biggest media sensation even before his first retirement...

Almost everybody is a bandwagon MJ fan, having never been a chitown fan before he rocked the league...remember when NY and Brooklyn rode Jordan because he happened to have been born there? Wasn't THE DUNK Starks the man after he dunked on MJ and Grant? Spike Lee ring a bell?

Trolling is one thing and all in good fun, but Bandwagon hating is not any better than being a bandwagon fan......


What we you talking about I said IMO its to early to compare Mj & Lebron on an all time scale ?

[maybeshewill13]

because i don't live in the US, have no ties and feel no loyalty to any one city, i will always be a bandwagon fan. i follow my favorite players and root for the teams they are on. i would however, root for the team where i live if i ever move there.

my history of fandom since i started following the NBA

Bulls (Pippen)
Kings (Webber-Christie era)
Suns (Nash MVP years)
Cavs (Lebron)
Heat (Lebron)

Yeah I understand that. I'm from Australia thus have no real allegiance to any city. I was a huge Garnett fan, and thus a Timberwolves fan, but then started watching Durant in college and fell in love with his game thus Seattle to OKC fan.

I will follow Seattle though when they get a team back no matter if the best player is ****ing Byron Mullens. I've now been to the USA and loved Washington State and also Oregon.. so I feel an allegiance to that area now. I'd follow Portland but my favorite color is green and I always had a soft spot for the Sonics.

[boozehound]

A month or so ago the Lakers blew out some team on the road and were getting loud cheers. Kobe even got louder MVP chants than he gets at Staples. In the GT, someone here commented on all the "bandwagon Laker fans" there, but seriously, at this point, are they still bandwagon fans? After two 2nd round exits and a sub-500 record?

The overall question here is: when can someone no longer be considered a bandwagon fan?
when the stick with a team through extended suckage. so, no, not after two years of 2nd round exits. after several years of not even sniffing the playoffs.

[boozehound]

also, if you are only a fan of a team because of a player (in other words, you will stop rooting for that team after the player leaves or retires) you are a bandwagoneer.

[maybeshewill13]

also, if you are only a fan of a team because of a player (in other words, you will stop rooting for that team after the player leaves or retires) you are a bandwagoneer.

http://www.troll.me/images/nicholas-guy/oh-really.jpg

[alleykat]

What we you talking about I said IMO its to early to compare Mj & Lebron on an all time scale ?

Yes, and u said its part of ur anti James attitude (its in ur post).....I'm merely saying its the same kind of hype and hate MJ received before he earned it...

Just saying hating sumone to counteract bandwagoning is just as whack...it might be another MJ story so....

[HorryIsMyMVP]

What if you are just a fan of an individual player in the NBA? Does that make you a bad person?

[NumberSix]

What if you are just a fan of an individual player in the NBA? Does that make you a bad person?
No.

Look, if my cousin gets drafted by an NBA team, whatever fcuking team it is, that's the team I'm gonna be a fan of and I'm ditching my team. Call that bandwagon if you want, but thats what I would do.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I really don't mind bandwagon fans. is it really wrong to cheer for a team because they play the game the right way as opposed to where they are geographically located?


Edit: Also if there were no such thing as bandwagon fans and everyone was a hardcore fan there would be little reason for a team to try and get better.

[NumberSix]

I really don't mind bandwagon fans. is it really wrong to cheer for a team because they play the game the right way as opposed to where they are geographically located?


Edit: Also if there were no such thing as bandwagon fans and everyone was a hardcore fan there would be little reason for a team to try and get better.
I'm a strong believer that teams should earn their fanbase. Look at it like this, even if there are a lot of LeBron bandwagoners, Cleveland should have done what it takes to keep LeBron and his fanbase. That's business.

Either make your team interesting, good or both. You'll earn fans.

[CHi1PriDe]

TTT

[NumberSix]

Chip L'Huile

[atljonesbro]

Fans of bad teams are much more of a fan than fans of teams like the Lakers or Celtics. Most of them only saw who was the best team at the time they started watching basketball and its usually one of the two. Rarely endure hard times and live in a fairytale world with their team.

[NumberSix]

Fans of bad teams are much more of a fan than fans of teams like the Lakers or Celtics. Most of them only saw who was the best team at the time they started watching basketball and its usually one of the two. Rarely endure hard times and live in a fairytale world with their team.
I'm sorry, but that's fcuking idiotic. If you grew up in Boston, what are you supposed to do? Be a Wizards fan? Why? So random forum posters will respect you as a "real fan"? Really bro?

[atljonesbro]

I'm sorry, but that's fcuking idiotic. If you grew up in Boston, what are you supposed to do? Be a Wizards fan? Why? So random forum posters will respect you as a "real fan"? Really bro?
Don't try to tell me a Lakers fan has just as much Fandom as a f*cking Bucks fan. It takes something strong to be a Bucks fan, Lakers not so much.

[NumberSix]

Don't try to tell me a Lakers fan has just as much Fandom as a f*cking Bucks fan. It takes something strong to be a Bucks fan, Lakers not so much.
You ever been to LA. I can tell you there are plenty of absolutely rabid fans. Why do you think there is so much pressure for the team to succeed? Why, because nobody cares? That make sense to you?

You think Bucks fans or Bobcats fans are as demanding of success? For real?