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Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 12:38 AM
30 point games (Regular Season)
Michael Jordan -- 562
Wilt Chamberlain -- 515
Karl Malone -- 435
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 429
Kobe Bryant -- 424
Oscar Robertson -- 387
Jerry West -- 350
Dominque Wilkins -- 346
Allen Iverson -- 345
Lebron James -- 344
Elgin Baylor -- 343
Adrian Dantley -- 313
Shaquille O'Neal -- 313
George Gervin -- 296
Bob Pettit - 284
Alex English - 276
Elvin Hayes -- 253
Carmelo Anthony -- 243
Dirk Nowitzki -- 237
Bob McAdoo -- 236
Moses Malone -- 227
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 227
Rick Barry -- 226
Larry Bird -- 223
Charles Barkley -- 221

40 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 271
Michael Jordan -- 173
Kobe Bryant -- 121
Elgin Baylor -- 88
Allen Iverson -- 79
Oscar Robertson -- 77
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 70
Rick Barry -- 70
George Gervin -- 68
Jerry West -- 66
Bob McAdoo -- 58
Lebron James -- 53
Adrian Dantley -- 52
Dominique Wilkins -- 57
Shaquille O'Neal -- 49
Larry Bird -- 47
Bob Pettit -- 47
Bernard King -- 45
Tracy McGrady -- 45
Karl Malone -- 44
Kevin Durant -- 41
Tiny Archibald -- 37
Elvin Hayes -- 37
Pete Maravich -- 35
Carmelo Anthony -- 35
Alex English -- 33

50 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 118
Michael Jordan -- 31
Kobe Bryant -- 24
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Rick Barry -- 13
Allen Iverson -- 11
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 10
Lebron James -- 10
Bernard King -- 8
Dominique Wilkins -- 7
Adrian Dantley -- 6
Pete Maravich -- 6
Bob Pettit -- 6
George Gervin -- 5
Jerry West -- 5
Nate Archibald -- 4
Larry Bird -- 4
Karl Malone -- 4
Moses Malone -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Bob McAdoo -- 4
George Mikan -- 4
Carmelo Anthony -- 4
Kevin Durant -- 4

60 point games (Regular Season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 32
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Elgin Baylor -- 5
Michael Jordan -- 4
David Thompson -- 1
David Robinson -- 1
Pete Maravich -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1
Joe Fulks -- 1
Jerry West -- 1
George Gervin -- 1
Karl Malone -- 1
Tracy McGrady -- 1
George Mikan -- 1
Shaquille O'Neal -- 1
Bernard King -- 1
Larry Bird -- 1
Tom Chambers -- 1
Allen Iverson -- 1
Gilbert Arenas -- 1
Lebron James -- 1
Carmelo Anthony -- 1

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30 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 109
Kobe Bryant -- 88
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 75
Jerry West -- 74
Lebron James -- 68
Elgin Baylor -- 60
Shaquille O'Neal -- 55
Karl Malone -- 54
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 53
Rick Barry -- 48
Dirk Nowitzki -- 45
Larry Bird -- 43
Wilt Chamberlain -- 42
Allen Iverson -- 36
Tim Duncan -- 36
Bob Pettit -- 33
Kevin Durant -- 33
George Gervin -- 32
Dwyane Wade -- 32
John Havlicek -- 30
Reggie Miller -- 29
Charles Barkley - 28
Rick Barry -- 27
George Gervin -- 26
Oscar Robertson -- 23

40 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 38
Jerry West -- 20
Elgin Baylor -- 14
Kobe Bryant -- 13
Wilt Chamberlain -- 13
Shaquille O'Neal -- 12
Lebron James -- 12
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 11
Allen Iverson -- 10
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 9
Rick Barry -- 8
Bernard King -- 7
Dirk Nowitzki -- 7
Dwyane Wade -- 7
George Gervin -- 6
Charles Barkley -- 5
Larry Bird -- 5
John Havlicek -- 5
Bob McAdoo -- 5
Bob Pettit -- 5
Dominique Wilkins -- 5
Kevin Durant -- 5

50 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 3
Jerry West -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 1
Charles Barkley -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1
John Havlicek -- 1
Sam Jones -- 1
Eric Floyd -- 1
Ray Allen -- 1
Bob Pettit -- 1
Billy Cunningham -- 1
Bob McAdoo -- 1
Dominique Wilkins -- 1
Karl Malone -- 1
Vince Carter -- 1
Dirk Nowitzki -- 1
Kobe Bryant -- 1
Bob Cousy -- 1

60 point games (Playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 1
Elgin Baylor -- 1

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30 point games (Finals)
Jerry West -- 31
Michael Jordan -- 23
Elgin Baylor -- 19
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 16
Shaquille O'Neal -- 16
Bob Pettit -- 14
Kobe Bryant -- 13
Rick Barry -- 8
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 8
John Havlicek -- 8
Sam Jones -- 8
George Mikan -- 7
Dwyane Wade -- 7
Lebron James -- 7
Larry Bird -- 5
Julius Erving -- 5
James Worthy -- 5
Tom Heinsohn -- 5
Cliff Hagan -- 5
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Clyde Drexler -- 4
Tim Duncan -- 4

40 point games (Finals)
Jerry West -- 10
Michael Jordan -- 6
Shaquille O'Neal -- 5
Elgin Baylor -- 5
Rick Barry -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Dwyane Wade -- 2
Bob Pettit -- 2
John Havlicek -- 2
Allen Iverson -- 1
Wilt Chamberlain -- 1
Isiah Thomas -- 1
Magic Johnson -- 1
Charles Barkley -- 1
Russell Westbrook -- 1
Kobe Bryant -- 1
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 1
Cliff Hagan -- 1
James Worthy -- 1
Julius Erving -- 1

50 point games (Finals)
Elgin Baylor -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1
Michael Jordan -- 1
Jerry West -- 1
Bob Pettit -- 1

60 point games (Finals)
Elgin Baylor -- 1

TheMarkMadsen
02-24-2013, 12:41 AM
do they count 50 pt games as a 40pt game and a 30pt game as well as being a 50pt game?

dgaras
02-24-2013, 12:43 AM
lol at wilt in playoffs. goes to show how much you should respect his ppg

plowking
02-24-2013, 12:46 AM
I think Lebron being so high up on the 30 point game list, while dropping off slightly on the 40 point list is immensely impressive. Just goes to show how consistent he is. He'll more than likely always give you 25-30 a night and get your 6-7 assists and rebounds.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 12:47 AM
do they count 50 pt games as a 40pt game and a 30pt game as well as being a 50pt game?
Yeah

Let's say a guy scores 55
That is 1 50 pt game, 1 40 point game, and 1 30 point game.

A 30 point game is any game which you scored at least 30. It doesn't mean 30-39, it's 30 or more.

Droid101
02-24-2013, 12:47 AM
do they count 50 pt games as a 40pt game and a 30pt game as well as being a 50pt game?
I'm guessing yes from the data shown.

bergs14
02-24-2013, 12:50 AM
I find

50 point games (regular season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 118

and

60 point games (regular season)
Wilt Chamberlain -- 32

just so unbelievable, in my opinion.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 01:11 AM
Bonus:

70 point games
Wilt Chamberlain -- 6
Kobe Bryant -- 1
David Thompson -- 1
David Robinson -- 1
Elgin Baylor -- 1

L.Kizzle
02-24-2013, 01:13 AM
do they count 50 pt games as a 40pt game and a 30pt game as well as being a 50pt game?
Yeah, a 50 point game is a 40 point game.

:biggums:

Jacks3
02-24-2013, 01:30 AM
lol

no pun intended
02-24-2013, 01:31 AM
In before "Career 80 point game"

Tking714
02-24-2013, 01:37 AM
60 point games (regular season)

Gilbert Arenas -- 1

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I remember this one, was also a 40 point game for Kobe

:( This marks the decline of his career as well

L.Kizzle
02-24-2013, 01:40 AM
I remember this one, was also a 40 point game for Kobe

:( This marks the decline of his career as well
No, he had a better game the same road trip vs Phoenix, he dropped 54.

Tking714
02-24-2013, 01:42 AM
No, he had a better game the same road trip vs Phoenix, he dropped 54.

Was that the one with the game winner? or am I remembering wrong

L.Kizzle
02-24-2013, 01:43 AM
Was that the one with the game winner? or am I remembering wrong
Somewhat a game winner. He banked in a 3 in overtime to seal the victory.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 01:44 AM
I remember this one, was also a 40 point game for Kobe

:( This marks the decline of his career as well
He had 16 in OT, which is a record for most points in an overtime period. A lot of his points came with Kobe guarding him too.

NLZ
02-24-2013, 01:46 AM
do they count 50 pt games as a 40pt game and a 30pt game as well as being a 50pt game? No, Bob Cousy listed for 50+ points playoffs but not 40+.
Hard to believe Bob had a 50+ performance but never scored 30+ points in another playoff game..

Tking714
02-24-2013, 01:57 AM
He had 16 in OT, which is a record for most points in an overtime period. A lot of his points came with Kobe guarding him too.

Yea I remember the And1 jumper he got on Kobe. There was a point in time where Gilbert was my favorite player to watch, just because he looked like he wasn't SUPPOSED to score that much, he just willed himself to high point games. Every made shot of his looked like an accident :lol

KOBE143
02-24-2013, 01:59 AM
30 point games (playoffs)
Michael Jordan -- 109
Kobe Bryant -- 88
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 75
Jerry West -- 74
Elgin Baylor -- 60
Shaquille O'Neal -- 55
Karl Malone -- 54
Lebron James -- 53
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 53
Dirk Nowitzki -- 45
Larry Bird -- 43
Wilt Chamberlain -- 40
I think the above stats alone is enough evidence to show people who are/were the greatest playoffs performer of all time.. :applause:

Tking714
02-24-2013, 02:02 AM
No, Bob Cousy listed for 50+ points playoffs but not 40+.
Hard to believe Bob had a 50+ performance but never scored 30+ points in another playoff game..

No it's accurate, there's just a cutoff after five 40 point games. Otherwise the list would go on for a while. If I remember right Rondo snuck in a 40 point playoff game

La Frescobaldi
02-24-2013, 02:07 AM
lol at wilt in playoffs. goes to show how much you should respect his ppg
Just so you know. Wilt was a volume scorer only for his first 7 seasons.

After that he spent 3 years as an all-round player - a triple double player.

And after he missed a season with a knee injury, he spent his last 4 years as a defensive player (a la Tyson Chandler). Adding his games as a Laker into his career totals is the fool's play. He wasn't even 3rd scoring option, he was a defensive specialist who often didn't even go to the offensive side of the court. They protected Wilt's knees as much as possible.

In those 7 years when he was a 'volume scorer', he played in 43 playoff games. He averaged 32.86 ppg. in playoffs.

In other words, in 43 games, he scored 40+ 10 times (3 of his high scoring games came after he had taken a different role). How many guys get 40 points every 4 games?
Wilt is the only one to do it.

Clippersfan86
02-24-2013, 02:28 AM
Kobe's scored 60 5 times??? I thought it was just like 3 times.

Mr. I'm So Rad
02-24-2013, 02:31 AM
Kobe's scored 60 5 times??? I thought it was just like 3 times.

65 against Portland
62 against Dallas
60 against Memphis
61 against New York
81 against Toronto

Clippersfan86
02-24-2013, 02:35 AM
65 against Portland
62 against Dallas
60 against Memphis
61 against New York
81 against Toronto

Yea I only knew of Toronto, NY and Dallas. Didn't know he did it against Memphis and Portland :applause: .

tikay0
02-24-2013, 02:37 AM
Bonus:

70 point games
Wilt Chamberlain -- 6
Kobe Bryant -- 1
David Thompson -- 1
David Robinson -- 1
Elgin Baylor -- 1

Kobe scored 70 in the playoffs!? When was this?

NVM. I assumed it meant playoffs.

TheMarkMadsen
02-24-2013, 02:38 AM
No, Bob Cousy listed for 50+ points playoffs but not 40+.
Hard to believe Bob had a 50+ performance but never scored 30+ points in another playoff game..

I find that odd. If you scored 50 you scored 40 so it should count as a 40 pt game as well?

Tking714
02-24-2013, 02:48 AM
I find that odd. If you scored 50 you scored 40 so it should count as a 40 pt game as well?

The list cuts off after 5. Meaning if you had 1, 2, or 3 40 point games it won't show. If that were the case then Rondo, Paul Pierce and Vince Carter would be on the list. Notice how VC is on the 50 point list

dgaras
02-24-2013, 02:52 AM
Just so you know. Wilt was a volume scorer only for his first 7 seasons.

After that he spent 3 years as an all-round player - a triple double player.

And after he missed a season with a knee injury, he spent his last 4 years as a defensive player (a la Tyson Chandler). Adding his games as a Laker into his career totals is the fool's play. He wasn't even 3rd scoring option, he was a defensive specialist who often didn't even go to the offensive side of the court. They protected Wilt's knees as much as possible.

In those 7 years when he was a 'volume scorer', he played in 43 playoff games. He averaged 32.86 ppg. in playoffs.

In other words, in 43 games, he scored 40+ 10 times (3 of his high scoring games came after he had taken a different role). How many guys get 40 points every 4 games?
Wilt is the only one to do it.

ok? still dont respect his scoring as much. ive seen his highlights. a good player but the rest of the league was crap. would have been a 30ppg scorer now. thats it.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 02:55 AM
ok? still dont respect his scoring as much. ive seen his highlights. a good player but the rest of the league was crap. would have been a 30ppg scorer now. thats it.
Don't know about 30 ppg...

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 03:31 AM
Yea I remember the And1 jumper he got on Kobe. There was a point in time where Gilbert was my favorite player to watch, just because he looked like he wasn't SUPPOSED to score that much, he just willed himself to high point games. Every made shot of his looked like an accident :lol
Dude fell off so bad though. One of the biggest dropoffs in production from one season to the other after '07.

Psileas
02-24-2013, 09:19 AM
lol at wilt in playoffs. goes to show how much you should respect his ppg

Still #5 in 40 pointers and #2 in 50 pointers while playing 2/3 of his games in his non high scoring seasons. How sucky... :rolleyes:

If anything, it shows you why he was a better scorer than his average indicates.

WillC
02-24-2013, 10:01 AM
LOL at all the idiots in this thread who fail to realise that there was one less playoff round back when Wilt played. Also, the first round was best of 5 back then.

So the number of 40+ (etc) point games in the playoffs is irrelevant.

It's an unfair comparison.

Nice try though :facepalm

KayHaven
02-24-2013, 10:20 AM
What about Ray Allens 50pt playoff game?

RobertdeMeijer
02-24-2013, 10:45 AM
Rick Barry's high amount of 40 point games as compared to his 30 point games; I wonder how much that had to do with his attitude.

LikeABosh
02-24-2013, 11:15 AM
Lebron with just 2 less 40+ point playoff games than Kobe :bowdown:

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 12:46 PM
What about Ray Allens 50pt playoff game?
Added. I knew I missed one of those 50pt playoff games.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 12:48 PM
LOL at all the idiots in this thread who fail to realise that there was one less playoff round back when Wilt played. Also, the first round was best of 5 back then.

So the number of 40+ (etc) point games in the playoffs is irrelevant.

It's an unfair comparison.

Nice try though :facepalm
Wilt played in 160 playoff games still. Just saying. Jordan played in 179 for comparison.

julizaver
02-24-2013, 02:37 PM
Wilt played in 160 playoff games still. Just saying. Jordan played in 179 for comparison.

Again Jordan was a scorer his whole career. Wilt was a scorer who intentionally cut his scoring after leading the league in his first 7 years.
Furthermore even in his scoring years his scoring goes down in playoffs but it was because Wilt need to do everything on court not just scoring points for his team to win. If you have read what Cousy after game 7 in 62 EDF you will understand this. Both Russell and Wilt played great and have similar stat numbers but if you look at Wilt's 50 ppg average comparing to his 22 points you can say that Russell shut down Wilt. In fact Wilt was praised after the game for playing terrific defensive game by his opponents.

And I am not diminishing Jordan's achievements as he had all the rights to claim that he is the best basketball player ever.

However the point I wanted to make was that just citing the numbers of games played in that particular case is irrelevant - a better comparison will be to check the percentage of 30, 40, 50pts games in wilt's scoring years against the percentage of Jordan's.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 02:52 PM
Again Jordan was a scorer his whole career. Wilt was a scorer who intentionally cut his scoring after leading the league in his first 7 years.
Furthermore even in his scoring years his scoring goes down in playoffs but it was because Wilt need to do everything on court not just scoring points for his team to win. If you have read what Cousy after game 7 in 62 EDF you will understand this. Both Russell and Wilt played great and have similar stat numbers but if you look at Wilt's 50 ppg average comparing to his 22 points you can say that Russell shut down Wilt. In fact Wilt was praised after the game for playing terrific defensive game by his opponents.

And I am not diminishing Jordan's achievements as he had all the rights to claim that he is the best basketball player ever.

However the point I wanted to make was that just citing the numbers of games played in that particular case is irrelevant - a better comparison will be to check the percentage of 30, 40, 50pts games in wilt's scoring years against the percentage of Jordan's.
Well you can't compare them at all because Wilt's era isn't as good as Jordan's. And I know about him changing roles in the mid 60s from an offensive player to defensive anchor. Even when you compare the regular season numbers ro the playoff numbers when he was the main man on offense, his scoring dropped. Anyways when I looked at the numbers that people had for Wilt's 30 point playoff games, I saw one had Wilt at 40 and another at 42. Do you know how much he has?

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 02:54 PM
Rick Barry's high amount of 40 point games as compared to his 30 point games; I wonder how much that had to do with his attitude.
I found out how many Rick Barry had and added it on the list. He had 48 30 point playoff games which is a high amount and corresponds with his high amount of 40 point playoff games.

Nezty
02-24-2013, 02:54 PM
I'm curious to know the teams W-L when the player goes for that many points.

Deuce Bigalow
02-24-2013, 04:07 PM
I'm curious to know the teams W-L when the player goes for that many points.
I found the W-L record of 50 point regular season games

A player has scored 50 points 430 times in the regular season in NBA history

Team record: 313-117 (.728 W-L%)

415 times before Feb. 7. 2009.
302-113 (.728 W-L%)

http://www.apbr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1968

Here are the W-L numbers of some of the all time leaders, the while list is in the link above.

Wilt Chamberlain 118 (81-37) .686
Michael Jordan 31 (23-8) .742
Kobe Bryant 24 (17-7) .708
Elgin Baylor 17 (15-2) .882
Rick Barry 14 (13-1) .929
Allen Iverson 11 (6-5) .545
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 10 (8-2) .800
Bernard King 8 (4-4) .500
Dominique Wilkins 7 (4-3) .571
Adrian Dantley 6 (4-2) .667
LeBron James 6 (4-2) .667
Pete Maravich 6 (6-0) 1.000
Bob Pettit 6 (6-0) 1.000
George Gervin 5 (4-1) .800
Jerry West 5 (4-1) .800

15 times since Feb. 7. 2009.
11-4 (.733 W-L%)

Deuce Bigalow
03-02-2013, 05:54 PM
30 ppg seasons
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 7
Oscar Robertson -- 6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Jerry West -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Kobe Bryant -- 3
Bob McAdoo -- 3
Adrian Dantley -- 3
Rick Barry -- 2
Lebron James -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
George Gervin -- 2

30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
Lebron James -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2

fpliii
03-02-2013, 05:57 PM
30 ppg seasons
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 7
Oscar Robertson -- 6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Jerry West -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Kobe Bryant -- 3
Bob McAdoo -- 3
Adrian Dantley -- 3
Rick Barry -- 2
Lebron James -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
George Gervin -- 2

30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
Lebron James -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2

Great stuff! I'll see if I have anything to contribute to this thread when I have a chance. Do you have lists for 30,40 ppg Finals series too?

Deuce Bigalow
03-02-2013, 06:02 PM
Great stuff! I'll see if I have anything to contribute to this thread when I have a chance. Do you have lists for 30,40 ppg Finals series too?
I'll try to find out the finals stats if I can and post it. I know I saw somewhere the top 10 most finals points somewhere but I dont remember. My list of 40pt rs games is a little short though.

fpliii
03-02-2013, 06:07 PM
I'll try to find out the finals stats if I can and post it. I know I saw somewhere the top 10 most finals points somewhere but I dont remember. My list of 40pt rs games is a little short though.

B-R is pretty helpful...they have complete PPG for series going back to 1950 (I believe):

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2012_finals.html

just change the year in the URL. I can help you out later on when I'm done organizing some files.

The penultimate round (ECF/EDF/WCF/WDF) would be a fun add too, but that requires a bit more manual calculation since the data isn't as neatly organized.

EDIT: I'll also look into 40 pt regular season games.

Deuce Bigalow
03-02-2013, 06:35 PM
30 ppg Finals series
Jerry West -- 6
Michael Jordan -- 5
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
Rick Barry -- 1
Dwyane Wade -- 1
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 1
Kobe Bryant -- 1
George Mikan -- 1
Allen Iverson -- 1
Kevin Durant -- 1
Julius Erving -- 1
Bob Pettit -- 1

40 ppg Finals series
Michael Jordan -- 1
Rick Barry -- 1

Deuce Bigalow
03-02-2013, 09:13 PM
Finals stats added in the OP.
Jerry West :applause:

Ne 1
03-02-2013, 11:38 PM
30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
Lebron James -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2

Players who have averaged 30+ ppg in the playoffs on route to a championship: Kareem, Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq, Kobe and LeBron.

tazb
03-02-2013, 11:44 PM
30 ppg seasons
Michael Jordan -- 8
Wilt Chamberlain -- 7
Oscar Robertson -- 6
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Jerry West -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Kobe Bryant -- 3
Bob McAdoo -- 3
Adrian Dantley -- 3
Rick Barry -- 2
Lebron James -- 2
Elgin Baylor -- 2
George Gervin -- 2

30 ppg playoffs
Michael Jordan -- 12
Jerry West -- 7
Kobe Bryant -- 5
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 4
Wilt Chamberlain -- 4
Elgin Baylor -- 4
Allen Iverson -- 4
Tracy McGrady -- 4
Shaquille O'Neal -- 3
Lebron James -- 3
George Mikan -- 2
Hakeem Olajuwon -- 2
Oscar Robertson -- 2
Bob McAdoo -- 2
Reggie Miller -- 2

Nice stat. I'm actually surprised Durant only has 1 30ppg season.

Deuce Bigalow
03-03-2013, 03:35 AM
Players who have averaged 30+ ppg in the playoffs on route to a championship: Kareem, Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq, Kobe and LeBron.
Yeah, and George Mikan did it also. Here are the highest playoff ppg runs en route to a championship.

1993 Michael Jordan - 35.1 ppg
1992 Michael Jordan - 34.5 ppg
1995 Hakeem Olajuwon - 33 ppg
1998 Michael Jordan - 32.4 ppg
1980 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 31.9 ppg
1950 George Mikan - 31.3 ppg
1991 Michael Jordan - 31.12 ppg
1997 Michael Jordan - 31.1 ppg
2000 Shaquille O'Neal - 30.74 ppg
1996 Michael Jordan - 30.7 ppg
2001 Shaquille O'Neal - 30.4 ppg
2012 Lebron James - 30.30 ppg
1949 George Mikan - 30.3 ppg
2009 Kobe Bryant - 30.2 ppg
2001 Kobe Bryant - 29.4 ppg
2010 Kobe Bryant - 29.2 ppg
1956 Paul Arizin - 28.9 ppg
1994 Hakeem Olajuwon - 28.86 ppg
1965 Sam Jones - 28.6 ppg
2002 Shaquille O'Neal - 28.5 ppg
2006 Dwyane Wade - 28.4 ppg
1975 Rick Barry - 28.2 ppg
1967 Hal Greer - 27.73 ppg
1958 Cliff Hagan - 27.72 ppg
2011 Dirk Nowitzki - 27.71 ppg
1984 Larry Bird - 27.5 ppg
1974 John Havlicek - 27.1 ppg
1979 Gus Williams - 26.7 ppg
2002 Kobe Bryant - 26.63 ppg
1971 Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 26.6 ppg
1983 Moses Malone - 26.0 ppg
1968 John Havlicek - 25.94 ppg
1986 Larry Bird - 25.88 ppg

The Mamba
03-03-2013, 03:43 AM
1993 Michael Jordan - 35.1 ppg
1992 Michael Jordan - 34.5 ppg
1995 Hakeem Olajuwon - 33 ppg
1998 Michael Jordan - 32.4 ppg
1980 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 31.9 ppg
1950 George Mikan - 31.3 ppg
1991 Michael Jordan - 31.12 ppg
1997 Michael Jordan - 31.1 ppg
2000 Shaquille O'Neal - 30.74 ppg
1996 Michael Jordan - 30.7 ppg
:biggums:

That's the top ten playoff scoring averages en route to a ring, through 4 rounds of playoffs and Finals. Most amount of games played, possible. Greatest level of context. And Michael Jordan absolutely dominates that list. Utterly absurd.

No wonder he's clearly the GOAT. Not only did he do his thing in the regular season, but he obviously held back in the regular season. When the playoffs and Finals came around he took his game to even higher levels, to match the intensity, hype, and pressure surrounding the playoffs and it's advancing rounds.

By far the greatest player, post season player, pressure player, and big game player I've ever seen. Ridiculous. Everyone should take a bow. Those numbers are bonkers.

Droid101
03-03-2013, 05:12 AM
Yeah, and George Mikan did it also. Here are the highest playoff ppg runs en route to a championship.

1993 Michael Jordan - 35.1 ppg
1992 Michael Jordan - 34.5 ppg
1995 Hakeem Olajuwon - 33 ppg
1998 Michael Jordan - 32.4 ppg
1980 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 31.9 ppg
1950 George Mikan - 31.3 ppg
1991 Michael Jordan - 31.12 ppg
1997 Michael Jordan - 31.1 ppg
2000 Shaquille O'Neal - 30.74 ppg
1996 Michael Jordan - 30.7 ppg
2001 Shaquille O'Neal - 30.4 ppg
2012 Lebron James - 30.30 ppg
1949 George Mikan - 30.3 ppg
2009 Kobe Bryant - 30.2 ppg
2001 Kobe Bryant - 29.4 ppg
2010 Kobe Bryant - 29.2 ppg
1956 Paul Arizin - 28.9 ppg
1994 Hakeem Olajuwon - 28.86 ppg
1965 Sam Jones - 28.6 ppg
2002 Shaquille O'Neal - 28.5 ppg
2006 Dwyane Wade - 28.4 ppg
1975 Rick Barry - 28.2 ppg
1967 Hal Greer - 27.73 ppg
1958 Cliff Hagan - 27.72 ppg
2011 Dirk Nowitzki - 27.71 ppg
1984 Larry Bird - 27.5 ppg
1974 John Havlicek - 27.1 ppg
1979 Gus Williams - 26.7 ppg
2002 Kobe Bryant - 26.63 ppg
1971 Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 26.6 ppg
1983 Moses Malone - 26.0 ppg
1968 John Havlicek - 25.94 ppg
1986 Larry Bird - 25.88 ppg
Kobe Bryant, eight years a part, and still consistent.

Love it!

G-Funk
03-03-2013, 06:02 AM
Players who have averaged 30+ ppg in the playoffs on route to a championship: Kareem, Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq, Kobe and LeBron.
I guess thats how start to weed out the top 10 players list,only one miising is Lebron but he will ge there in time.

gengiskhan
03-03-2013, 01:45 PM
Kobe Bryant, eight years a part, and still consistent.

Love it!

2001 was when all the NBA including Kobe Bryant was SUCKING SHAQS PEAK PRIME PEEN1S & nobody could suck him dry.

stop crediting 2nd fiddle.

Kobe 4 The Win
03-03-2013, 02:19 PM
You should add 80 point games to the OP. :D

Jerry West :bowdown: Maybe he'll get the respect he deserves now that it's in black and white for all of ISH to see.

The-Legend-24
03-09-2013, 04:20 AM
LOL @ Wilt completely falling off when the playoffs start... And some people put this nikka as the GOAT and in the top 5. Fvcking joke. :oldlol:

Deuce Bigalow
11-30-2013, 07:31 PM
Updated, added a few missing players, and extended the list. BR has points stats as far back as 1963-64 now.

Psileas
11-30-2013, 07:43 PM
You should add 80 point games to the OP. :D

Jerry West :bowdown: Maybe he'll get the respect he deserves now that it's in black and white for all of ISH to see.

Ηe dominates Finals' records like few others, including most points scored and most 30+, 40+ and 50+ point games in the Finals and if his name was Jordan, they would obviously be called "more proof he's the GOAT".

JimmyMcAdocious
11-30-2013, 07:51 PM
Ηe dominates Finals' records like few others, including most points scored and most 30+, 40+ and 50+ point games in the Finals and if his name was Jordan, they would obviously be called "more proof he's the GOAT".

Or if he won more of those Finals series.

fpliii
11-30-2013, 07:58 PM
Or if he won more of those Finals series.

It's tough going against strong GOAT candidate in Russell for each of those series through 68-69 though.

Psileas
11-30-2013, 08:19 PM
Or if he won more of those Finals series.

Not his fault usually. And it doesn't really matter: A few plays going the other way with West adding nothing more than what he did would make him a multiple time champion.
But it's not as if many are calling the one that beat him GOAT either. So, I guess that even if he won more, most would still offer the usual "weak competition" excuses.

JimmyMcAdocious
11-30-2013, 08:56 PM
True, but you can't select your competition. Same excuse I see with 90's ringless players and Jordan. It's poppycock.

And West probably would get a heavy GOAT consideration if you reversed his Finals record. He went 3-6, right? (going off memory). 6-3 and his resume looks completely different. Hypotheticals don't mean shit because they never happened. Not sure why I see so many of them used to help a player's argument on ISH.

fpliii
11-30-2013, 09:00 PM
True, but you can't select your competition. Same excuse I see with 90's ringless players and Jordan. It's poppycock.

And West probably would get a heavy GOAT consideration if you reversed his Finals record. He went 3-6, right? (going off memory). 6-3 and his resume looks completely different. Hypotheticals don't mean shit because they never happened. Not sure why I see so many of them used to help a player's argument on ISH.

1-8 Finals record I think.

I disagree about hypotheticals though, if we're just discussing things that happened, these boards would get very boring. I think it's much, much more interesting to consider what-ifs, and try and figure out how players would do in different situations, or how good a guy is in a vacuum when taking into account context/circumstances.

La Frescobaldi
11-30-2013, 09:03 PM
Updated, added a few missing players, and extended the list. BR has points stats as far back as 1963-64 now.

Do you know about this site?

http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/home.htm

Go Playoffs, or Finals, in the toolbar at the top.... then select by season.

Has all playoffs & Finals box scores up to 2003, and there is some interesting conversation about many of the series too.

Deuce Bigalow
11-30-2013, 09:20 PM
Do you know about this site?

http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/home.htm

Go Playoffs, or Finals, in the toolbar at the top.... then select by season.

Has all playoffs & Finals box scores up to 2003, and there is some interesting conversation about many of the series too.
Yes of course. I use it to look up Finals stats pre-mid '80s since it has series totals/averages.

Marchesk
11-30-2013, 09:33 PM
Jerry West flat out balling in the finals. He and Baylor had 50 30 point finals, that's five-oh, and yet only one championship. :confusedshrug:

Dat Celtic dyansty.

Marchesk
11-30-2013, 09:35 PM
I think the above stats alone is enough evidence to show people who are/were the greatest playoffs performer of all time.. :applause:

Need to show # of playoff games also. Kobe would have played in more than West and Baylor, even though those two were in 9 finals (West was 9, Baylor 8?).

Marchesk
11-30-2013, 09:40 PM
Well you can't compare them at all because Wilt's era isn't as good as Jordan's. And I know about him changing roles in the mid 60s from an offensive player to defensive anchor. Even when you compare the regular season numbers ro the playoff numbers when he was the main man on offense, his scoring dropped. Anyways when I looked at the numbers that people had for Wilt's 30 point playoff games, I saw one had Wilt at 40 and another at 42. Do you know how much he has?

But Jordan didn't grow up in the 50s. You play against your competition, not people decades in the future. We'll never really know how MJ, Lebron or Shaq would have faired in the 60s, because we don't have time machines (which I'm sure we'd use to send athletes back in), and they didn't grow up in different eras.

You can only really measure athletes across time relative to how they did against their competition.

Marchesk
11-30-2013, 09:49 PM
And West probably would get a heavy GOAT consideration if you reversed his Finals record. He went 3-6, right? (going off memory). 6-3 and his resume looks completely different. Hypotheticals don't mean shit because they never happened. Not sure why I see so many of them used to help a player's argument on ISH.

If West was 8-1 in the finals, having the exact same stats, he would be with MJ in the GOAT conversation. Interesting how much rings influence people's perception of players. West isn't even top 10 anymore.

La Frescobaldi
11-30-2013, 10:26 PM
If West was 8-1 in the finals, having the exact same stats, he would be with MJ in the GOAT conversation. Interesting how much rings influence people's perception of players. West isn't even top 10 anymore.

West is on my all-time team as starting guard, with Jordan the other.
Logo didn't have the best first step but I've still to this day never seen anyone quicker than a young West from the perimeter to the hoop. Absolutely unstoppable, totally clutch, balls to the wall every minute.
Elite anywhere on the court, with the ball, without it, on defense, open court offense or defense.

Deuce Bigalow
11-30-2013, 10:38 PM
West is on my all-time team as starting guard, with Jordan the other.
Logo didn't have the best first step but I've still to this day never seen anyone quicker than a young West from the perimeter to the hoop. Absolutely unstoppable, totally clutch, balls to the wall every minute.
Elite anywhere on the court, with the ball, without it, on defense, open court offense or defense.
What years if any do you think West was or considered the best player in the league?

La Frescobaldi
11-30-2013, 11:17 PM
What years if any do you think West was or considered the best player in the league?
actually......... none. He played in a league with Bill Russell & Wilt Chamberlain. It's like Kobe being called the best in the league when Shaq was in his heyday..... no knock on Bryant, just the way it was in that time frame.

branslowski
11-30-2013, 11:18 PM
6,000 views, 70+ post. Lurkers def see dat Wilt, Jordan, Kobe domination.:applause:

Deuce Bigalow
11-30-2013, 11:26 PM
actually......... none. He played in a league with Bill Russell & Wilt Chamberlain. It's like Kobe being called the best in the league when Shaq was in his heyday..... no knock on Bryant, just the way it was in that time frame.
Who was the best in '69 and '70 in your opinion?

La Frescobaldi
11-30-2013, 11:37 PM
Who was the best in '69 and '70 in your opinion?
To me Havlicek was robbed of MVP in 68 & 69, and if West had not gotten the FMVP in '69 it should have gone to Hondo. Willis Reed was incredible in '70... after that of course Kareem owned most of the '70s. After Chamberlain retired and Reed faded with injuries, the only guy that could contain Kareem was Thurmond until Moses showed up. Bill Walton of course is imponderable due to injuries

If you are thinking about West in through there.... dude was injured a lot as i recall

TaLvsCuaL
11-30-2013, 11:45 PM
Looking at this thread numbers I realize that I was underestimating Jerry West all my life.

D.J.
12-01-2013, 01:05 AM
Don't forget that Tony Delk has a 50 point game. :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
12-01-2013, 01:58 AM
How about these games...




Career 30-30 games:

Aside from Chamberlain, there have been 36 30-30 games in NBA history, and Russell is the leader of that group, with 7 (Bellamy and Thurmond are next with 3 each.)

How about Wilt? 132.


40-30 (or 30-40) games: Other than Wilt, the NBA has had 9 40-30 games, with Baylor being the only player to have 2.

Chamberlain? 73


50-30 games: Pettit and Baylor each with 1

Wilt? 32


60-20 games: Aside from Wilt, there have been four (Baylor with 3 and Shaq with 1)

Chamberlain? 28


60-30 games: Baylor with 1

Wilt? 8


40-40 games: There have been 8 in the history of the NBA, and Chamberlain had all of them.


50-40 games: Obviously, Wilt would be the only player to have ever have accomplished that feat, which he did 5 times.


70-30 games: Chamberlain has the only 2, 78-43 and 73-36 (against Bellamy.)

Marchesk
12-01-2013, 05:36 AM
How about these games...

Baylor, the greatest rebounding small forward of all time.

That 78-43 game Wilt had. That's like Love having a 54-26 game today, or whatever the pace adjustment equals. ISH would be going crazy.

LAZERUSS
12-01-2013, 07:39 AM
Baylor, the greatest rebounding small forward of all time.

That 78-43 game Wilt had. That's like Love having a 54-26 game today, or whatever the pace adjustment equals. ISH would be going crazy.

The current NBA is averaging 99 ppg and 44 rpg. Wilt's 61-62 NBA averaged 118.8 ppg and about 63 rpg (and yes, you have to subtract team rebounds from year's prior to 68-69.)

So, using that math, and Wilt's 78-43 game translates into a 65-30 game today.

BTW, Chamberlain had a 73-36 game against the 6-11 HOFer Bellamy in that same season. Or the equivalent of about a 61-25 game today.

branslowski
12-01-2013, 07:26 PM
The current NBA is averaging 99 ppg and 44 rpg. Wilt's 61-62 NBA averaged 118.8 ppg and about 63 rpg (and yes, you have to subtract team rebounds from year's prior to 68-69.)

So, using that math, and Wilt's 78-43 game translates into a 65-30 game today.

BTW, Chamberlain had a 73-36 game against the 6-11 HOFer Bellamy in that same season. Or the equivalent of about a 61-25 game today.

Still would be a dominant game, jesus christ.:eek:

Also, could you do this game stat translater for guys like West, Oscar, Wilt, Baylor exc...Basically any All Time great playing in higher poss era's into this era and today's pace?

CavaliersFTW
12-01-2013, 07:41 PM
Jerry F*ckin West :bowdown:

ArbitraryWater
03-05-2014, 03:45 PM
do they count 50 pt games as a 40pt game and a 30pt game as well as being a 50pt game?

Of course. It's basically 30 PLUS, 40 PLUS, etc. Jordan has 108 30+ Point Games, counting all 40, 50, etc. efforts.

Good chance to bump a thread with some nice info in it

kshutts1
03-05-2014, 03:53 PM
something to consider is the amount of RS and P games each players has.

For instance, I thought Kobe would have less playoff games than Jordan, and thus the difference in 30p playoff games wouldn't be necessarily as large the raw data suggests. Yet upon looking into it, Jordan plays 179 playoff games to Kobe's 220. Making the difference even larger.

Deuce Bigalow
03-05-2014, 04:16 PM
To me Havlicek was robbed of MVP in 68 & 69, and if West had not gotten the FMVP in '69 it should have gone to Hondo. Willis Reed was incredible in '70... after that of course Kareem owned most of the '70s. After Chamberlain retired and Reed faded with injuries, the only guy that could contain Kareem was Thurmond until Moses showed up. Bill Walton of course is imponderable due to injuries

If you are thinking about West in through there.... dude was injured a lot as i recall
68-69
Season
West- 26-4-7 47%fg
Hondo- 22-7-5 41%fg

Playoffs
West: 31-4-8 46%fg (#1 in scoring)
Hondo: 25-10-6 45%fg

Finals
West 38-5-7 49%fg (FMVP, #1 in scoring and apg)
Hondo: 28-11-4 46%fg

69-70
Season
West: 31-5-8 50%fg (#1 in scoring)
Hondo: 24-8-7 46%fg

Playoffs
West: 31-4-8 47%fg (#1 in apg)
Hondo: DNP

Finals
West: 31-3-8 45%fg (#1 in scoring)
Hondo: DNP

You don't want to admit West was the best in the league because Wilt failed to win with him both times.

Deuce Bigalow
12-08-2014, 05:52 PM
Updated

La Frescobaldi
12-08-2014, 07:02 PM
68-69
Season
West- 26-4-7 47%fg
Hondo- 22-7-5 41%fg

Playoffs
West: 31-4-8 46%fg (#1 in scoring)
Hondo: 25-10-6 45%fg

Finals
West 38-5-7 49%fg (FMVP, #1 in scoring and apg)
Hondo: 28-11-4 46%fg

69-70
Season
West: 31-5-8 50%fg (#1 in scoring)
Hondo: 24-8-7 46%fg

Playoffs
West: 31-4-8 47%fg (#1 in apg)
Hondo: DNP

Finals
West: 31-3-8 45%fg (#1 in scoring)
Hondo: DNP

You don't want to admit West was the best in the league because Wilt failed to win with him both times.

lol all this time I never saw that til the bump.

No man, I was a Knicks fan in those days to this day Walt Frazier is my favorite player ever but also just the enormousness of those teams was great days
smooth ice cool #10

Done_And_Done
12-08-2014, 07:03 PM
:biggums:

That's the top ten playoff scoring averages en route to a ring, through 4 rounds of playoffs and Finals. Most amount of games played, possible. Greatest level of context. And Michael Jordan absolutely dominates that list. Utterly absurd.

No wonder he's clearly the GOAT. Not only did he do his thing in the regular season, but he obviously held back in the regular season. When the playoffs and Finals came around he took his game to even higher levels, to match the intensity, hype, and pressure surrounding the playoffs and it's advancing rounds.

By far the greatest player, post season player, pressure player, and big game player I've ever seen. Ridiculous. Everyone should take a bow. Those numbers are bonkers.

Worthy :bowdown:

f0und
12-08-2014, 09:38 PM
very nice informative thread. a nice break from all the trolling that floods the board.

best thread ive seen in a while.

good job OP :applause:

La Frescobaldi
12-08-2014, 10:00 PM
very nice informative thread. a nice break from all the trolling that floods the board.

best thread ive seen in a while.

good job OP :applause:

DB can be known to troll on Lazeruss remorselessly but he's the real deal too

Magic 32
12-08-2014, 10:03 PM
For instance, I thought Kobe would have less playoff games than Jordan, and thus the difference in 30p playoff games wouldn't be necessarily as large the raw data suggests. Yet upon looking into it, Jordan plays 179 playoff games to Kobe's 220. Making the difference even larger.

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