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konex
02-26-2013, 12:06 AM
Too many missed scoring opportunities and it is so demoralizing. Lakers will regret it if they max this guy out

Sarcastic
02-26-2013, 12:22 AM
What's his TS?

ispin69
02-26-2013, 12:36 AM
Laker stans act like they didn't know he has always been bad with freethrows, the same with Shaq. Learn to live with it or maybe you shouldn't have traded for him at all.

:facepalm

The-Legend-24
02-26-2013, 12:36 AM
We've lost like 6 games cuz of his FT shooting, how the FVCK do you go 3-14 while missing like 10 in a row?!!!

cotdt
02-26-2013, 12:41 AM
the dude is an APE!

Heavincent
02-26-2013, 12:42 AM
Howard is just not a good offensive player. Hell, he's flat out bad on that end of the floor.

G-train
02-26-2013, 12:44 AM
He's the NBA's best center playing with a bad shoulder and recovering from back surgery.
Maybe if fans/media realized that and lowered expectations for him his mind would be in a better place.

Heavincent
02-26-2013, 12:45 AM
He's the NBA's best center

:roll:

pauk
02-26-2013, 12:49 AM
Even if he would have hit most of his FTs tonight Lakers would have not won.

NumberSix
02-26-2013, 12:49 AM
Howard is just not a good offensive player. Hell, he's flat out bad on that end of the floor.
Somebody likes getting his opinions from Skip Bayless.

Mr. Jabbar
02-26-2013, 12:52 AM
Even if he would have hit most of his FTs tonight Lakers would have not won.

you cannot equate the intangibles involved in those misses though. Its demoralizing on offense and gives other teams confidence. Its more than just 11 missed free throws

G-train
02-26-2013, 12:52 AM
:roll:

That's not what I said jackass.


He's the NBA's best center playing with a bad shoulder and recovering from back surgery.


Which is correct. He has been the best center until he got injured.
But you are one of the jackass TMZ casual fans I am talking about.

Seriously Laker fans, get real.

32MJ32
02-26-2013, 12:55 AM
They gave up 119, including 33 fast break points.

The Lakers have bigger problems than Dwight's free throw shooting.

RoundMoundOfReb
02-26-2013, 12:57 AM
IDK if he'll ever be the same as he was pre injury.

tontoz
02-26-2013, 12:57 AM
Howard made it to the Finals with a weak supporting cast.

Bosnian Sajo
02-26-2013, 12:58 AM
you cannot equate the intangibles involved in those misses though. Its demoralizing on offense and gives other teams confidence. Its more than just 11 missed free throws

This.

And to the guy saying we Laker fans are "acting" like we didn't know he was a bad freethrow shooter, of course we knew about it, we are just fed up right now. Maybe we shouldn't of traded for him? Hmmm, I didn't realize it was up to the fans.......

ispin69
02-26-2013, 12:58 AM
Don't worry. Free tacos and a cup of Mr.Jabbar's tears tonight on the championship flight.

:applause:

IGOTGAME
02-26-2013, 12:59 AM
Howard made it to the Finals with a weak supporting cast.

that Howard no longer exists.

konex
02-26-2013, 01:00 AM
Even if he would have hit most of his FTs tonight Lakers would have not won.

Maybe we still lose but we'd have had a chance to win! If Dwight makes even half his fts, the game is totally different. I'd like to have seen Denver play with some pressure but Dwight didn't even give us a chance.

Bosnian Sajo
02-26-2013, 01:01 AM
Howard made it to the Finals with a weak supporting cast.

And Kobe only won these last 2 championships because of HOFers Gasol, Bynum, and Odom, right?

Eric Cartman
02-26-2013, 01:24 AM
You can have Howard's crappy free throw shooting or you can have horrible defense, but you can't have both and expect to win.

Rekindled
02-26-2013, 01:30 AM
Howard made it to the Finals with a weak supporting cast.

iverson made it to the finals with a weak supporting cast too. should the lakers max out iverson too?

tazb
02-26-2013, 01:33 AM
So? Denver as a team missed just as much as Howard did, it cancels each other out. Lakers lost today cause of their garbage defense. 80 something points in the paint.:wtf:

j3lademaster
02-26-2013, 02:00 AM
So? Denver as a team missed just as much as Howard did, it cancels each other out. Lakers lost today cause of their garbage defense. 80 something points in the paint.:wtf:This. The Nuggets feast on everyone at home though, don't feel too bad.

MisterAmazing
02-26-2013, 03:06 AM
And Kobe only won these last 2 championships because of HOFers Gasol, Bynum, and Odom, right?

Bynum and Odom HOFers? :biggums:

madmax
02-26-2013, 04:32 AM
Howard made it to the Finals with a weak supporting cast.

:applause:
how quickly clowns forget that...

AussieG
02-26-2013, 04:35 AM
I'm usually against the Dwight scapegoating but 3/14 is hilariously bad FT shooting. :lol

RoundMoundOfReb
02-26-2013, 04:35 AM
Bynum and Odom HOFers? :biggums:
He's being sarcastic

ripthekik
02-26-2013, 05:41 AM
:applause:
how quickly clowns forget that...
it's in the east, it doesn't mean shat. same way lebron going deep in the east doesnt meant crap.

9512
02-26-2013, 08:04 AM
Shaq was a perennially bad FT shooter. It didn't stop him or his teams to win titles. It won't stop him from getting into the HOF.

red1
02-26-2013, 08:19 AM
it's in the east, it doesn't mean shat. same way lebron going deep in the east doesnt meant crap.
what about the way he went balls-deep in your mother, does he get points for that?

tontoz
02-26-2013, 08:24 AM
And Kobe only won these last 2 championships because of HOFers Gasol, Bynum, and Odom, right?


I'll take those three over Nelson, Turk and Shard.

BlackWhiteGreen
02-26-2013, 08:24 AM
And if you don't sign him to the max you're left with Nash/Kobe/Gasol/trash with no assets and no money flexibility. You'd better hope Kupchak isn't that stupid...

rmt
02-26-2013, 08:40 AM
And if you don't sign him to the max you're left with Nash/Kobe/Gasol/trash with no assets and no money flexibility. You'd better hope Kupchak isn't that stupid...

LOL - damned if they sign him to the max and damned if they don't.

Floppy
02-26-2013, 10:13 AM
Man, who knew that Dwight was a terrible free throw shooter?

http://t.qkme.me/3pcnb1.jpg

Nick Young
02-26-2013, 10:20 AM
:applause:
how quickly clowns forget that...
His whole reputation is based on one fluke year, 4 years ago, and his game has not improved at all sense then and his work rate has gone down.

ripthekik
02-26-2013, 10:20 AM
what about the way he went balls-deep in your mother, does he get points for that?
really? this how low you going to go? :facepalm

andremiller07
02-26-2013, 10:22 AM
How can people still keep saying hes the best Centre in the NBA, hes been crap this year, his stats "look" good but if you actually watch games other than spoon feed dunks the dude can't do anything. On top of that he goaltends so many shots that are going to miss and well the free throw shooting is just :facepalm.

Him having a bad back does not make him a woeful passer, have crap hand and cause his to making low IQ plays every 2nd possesion. Zero creativity on offense and hes still easily the most physically capable centre in the NBA injured or not. He looked fine that other game when he went for 20+ points running all around while getting easy buckets non stop.

SCdac
02-26-2013, 10:57 AM
Howard made it to the Finals with a weak supporting cast.

Actually that team was pretty good. Won 59 games. Nearly lead the league in Three's. In the playoffs, Howard lead his team in scoring in about half the games.

Howard -- 20/11/1.4
Rashard -- 18/6/ 3 three's a game
Turkoglu -- 17/5/5
Nelson -- 17/5
Alston -- 12/5
Pietrus -- 9/3/ 2 three's a game

Budadiiii
02-26-2013, 11:20 AM
Actually that team was pretty good. Won 59 games. Nearly lead the league in Three's. In the playoffs, Howard lead his team in scoring in about half the games.

Howard -- 20/11/1.4
Rashard -- 18/6/ 3 three's a game
Turkoglu -- 17/5/5
Nelson -- 17/5
Alston -- 12/5
Pietrus -- 9/3/ 2 three's a game
I never understand why people base guys off of reputation instead of hardcore facts/stats. Boggles my mind.

PP34Deuce
02-26-2013, 11:55 AM
Laker stans act like they didn't know he has always been bad with freethrows, the same with Shaq. Learn to live with it or maybe you shouldn't have traded for him at all.

:facepalm


I observed old laker games from Shaq Kobe era and I've come to see this...

SHaq was pretty bad at free throws, but because the team was in the penalty this allowed Kobe to be even more aggressive getting to the basket. I remember count less times Kobe getting 8-10 FT trips from Shaq drawing fouls. LA capitalized on this all the time and Shaq also was able to make decent amount of Free throws in the final minutes of a game. Hack a Shaq was not as effective because eventually it would lead to kobe attacking the ball once players were in foul trouble.

This laker team can't capitalize on it because Kobe can't attack like he used to. Dwight also has the habit of bring the ball down and getting stripped. Lacking explosion

BlackVVaves
02-26-2013, 01:14 PM
Shaq was a perennially bad FT shooter. It didn't stop him or his teams to win titles. It won't stop him from getting into the HOF.

Shaq's domination on the offensive end compensated for the missed points on the free throw line. When you are averaging 27-30 PPG in the paint, and your young shooting guard teammate is averaging 27-30 PPG on the perimeter, those 6-8 points on the free throw line are neutralized.

The problem with Dwight is, he's averaging 17 PPG right now, not 27 like a Shaq. So those 6-8 free points (or on some nights like last night 10-12 free points) really hurt. Especially when the team can't stop the opposing team from scoring at all.

dunksby
02-26-2013, 01:18 PM
There is no excuse for a franchise player to shoot this bad from the FT line, dude makes millions and whines even more but never takes a look at himself to try to improve his shortcomings. Seriously D12's fundamentals are so weak I can never respect him as a basketball player since he does not know the basics of the game.

tontoz
02-26-2013, 01:41 PM
Actually that team was pretty good. Won 59 games. Nearly lead the league in Three's. In the playoffs, Howard lead his team in scoring in about half the games.

Howard -- 20/11/1.4
Rashard -- 18/6/ 3 three's a game
Turkoglu -- 17/5/5
Nelson -- 17/5
Alston -- 12/5
Pietrus -- 9/3/ 2 three's a game


Why do you think those guys had all those open 3s? How have those guys done without Howard?

Doranku
02-26-2013, 02:44 PM
Why do you think those guys had all those open 3s? How have those guys done without Howard?
How has Howard done without them? :roll:

Mr Exlax
02-26-2013, 03:02 PM
So wait, the game boiled down to Howard's missed freethrows? Were they all in a row at the end of the game or were there other players missing shots throughout the game? He was the only player that missed a shot or something like that?

Nick Young
02-26-2013, 03:04 PM
You can't get momentum as a team with Dwight getting fouled and bricking 2 freethrows every other time you go down the court

taucesays
02-26-2013, 03:09 PM
How has Howard done without them? :roll:

Better yet, how did they do in the finals? Relying on 3s for half your points is a recipe for failure in pressure situations.

SCdac
02-26-2013, 03:17 PM
Why do you think those guys had all those open 3s? How have those guys done without Howard?

It was largely because of the system in place (Rashard Lewis, starting PF, camping on the perimeter taking literally 7 three's a game). The Magic played outside-in as much as they played inside-out. In the playoffs that season, Howard was their best player, yet he took the 4th most shots on his team (behind Rashard, Turk, and Alston).

You look at, say, prime Duncan and prime Shaq and they were never that low on their teams offensive totem pole in terms of volume of shots. They were at times surrounded by three point shooters just like Howard, but they were also head-and-shoulder better shot creators out of the post and picking apart defenses using their skills.

Howard's usage-% was 26.1 in the RS and dropped to a fairly low 23.3 in the playoffs as the scoring evened out (Turk, Rashard, Alston, Pietrus all had some big games, as did Howard).

tontoz
02-26-2013, 03:26 PM
How has Howard done without them? :roll:


Very well until he got hurt and went to the Lakers. Meanwhile several of the guys that played on that Orlando Finals team are on the back of milk cartons.

senelcoolidge
02-26-2013, 03:27 PM
Dwight doesn't have Wilt or Shaq hands (giant hands)...so he can be a better FT shooter, he just doesn't want to get better. He's been in the league for years now.

Ballin416
02-26-2013, 05:32 PM
There's no way that he makes 20 or 30 in a row or is anywhere near 80% like they say he is in practice. This guy just plain sucks at shooting the ball from a distance.