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chosen_one6
02-27-2013, 02:00 AM
Kareem :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
@EliasSports tells us @KingJames is 1st player to shoot 64% FG in a month (min 200 att) since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in March 1983
coin24
02-27-2013, 02:02 AM
:facepalm :facepalm
TheBigVeto
02-27-2013, 02:05 AM
Better than Kobe.
1987_Lakers
02-27-2013, 02:09 AM
I've never seen a player dominate a month like LeBron dominated February.
13 Games - 29.7 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 7.8 APG | 64 FG%
k0kakw0rld
02-27-2013, 02:12 AM
I've never seen a player dominate a month like LeBron dominated February.
13 Games - 29.7 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 7.8 APG | 64 FG%
GOAT :bowdown:
Segatti
02-27-2013, 02:43 AM
This guy is insane
we are all witnesses :bowdown:
TheCorporation
02-27-2013, 02:47 AM
Wat the?! Why did you post that pic?
NumberSix
02-27-2013, 03:03 AM
LeBron's brilliance
Lebron23
02-27-2013, 04:04 AM
Video game LeBron
ballinhun8
02-27-2013, 04:06 AM
I've never seen a player dominate a month like LeBron dominated February.
13 Games - 29.7 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 7.8 APG | 64 FG%
Seriously? With a name of 1987 I thought you would have seen more impressive. Besides the shooting percentage I am sure there have been guys who have averaged close to triple double averages for a month or who have averaged 40ppg a month with really good reb/ast numbers. MJ in 88 possibly?
unbreakable
02-27-2013, 04:09 AM
You realize on a NON -SUPER STACKED team with 33 shots a night he could average like 37 ppg 7 ass 7 reb if he didnt mind his FG% dropping to about 49-51%. ... could maybe even average 40 if he had that kind of mentality.. 40 easy.
But instead we settle for this because he wants to play on a super stacked team.
ripthekik
02-27-2013, 04:28 AM
You realize on a NON -SUPER STACKED team with 33 shots a night he could average like 37 ppg 7 ass 7 reb if he didnt mind his FG% dropping to about 49-51%. ... could maybe even average 40 if he had that kind of mentality.. 40 easy.
But instead we settle for this because he wants to play on a super stacked team.
um.. without the super stacked team, all his stats will drop. he's going to get double teamed all game long, you think he'll still be this effective? he's going to shoot around 40%, grab only around 3-4 rebounds because there are bodies on him, and he's only going to get around 3-4 assists because there is no wade or bosh or ray allen to pass to.
without his super stacked team:
25 points 4 rebounds 4 assists 40%
still great though.
plowking
02-27-2013, 04:30 AM
um.. without the super stacked team, all his stats will drop. he's going to get double teamed all game long, you think he'll still be this effective? he's going to shoot around 40%, grab only around 3-4 rebounds because there are bodies on him, and he's only going to get around 3-4 assists because there is no wade or bosh or ray allen to pass to.
without his super stacked team:
25 points 4 rebounds 4 assists 40%
still great though.
Can you show me one case of this happening? :oldlol:
ripthekik
02-27-2013, 05:00 AM
Can you show me one case of this happening? :oldlol:
look at all the single star-led teams in the past decade. the single star can still average a high amount of points.. but at the expense of taking a high volume of shots which decreases the FG percentage..
assists naturally go down as you have to shoulder more of the scoring load, and your teammates aren't as likely to make their shots.
Dave3
02-27-2013, 05:02 AM
look at all the single star-led teams in the past decade. the single star can still average a high amount of points.. but at the expense of taking a high volume of shots which decreases the FG percentage..
assists naturally go down as you have to shoulder more of the scoring load, and your teammates aren't as likely to make their shots.
Didn't he play with Jeff Mcinnis, Eric Snow, Larry Highes, Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, and Zydrunas Ilgauskus? Does that looks like an all star supporting cast to you?
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:05 AM
Didn't he play with Jeff Mcinnis, Eric Snow, Larry Highes, Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, and Zydrunas Ilgauskus? Does that looks like an all star supporting cast to you?
Yeah and the Spurs shut him down hard:lol
Kingwillball
02-27-2013, 05:05 AM
um.. without the super stacked team, all his stats will drop. he's going to get double teamed all game long, you think he'll still be this effective? he's going to shoot around 40%, grab only around 3-4 rebounds because there are bodies on him, and he's only going to get around 3-4 assists because there is no wade or bosh or ray allen to pass to.
without his super stacked team:
25 points 4 rebounds 4 assists 40%
still great though.
Really Cause HE has never averaged under 47% from the Field. The Cavs were never Super Stacked and he averaged 35,10,8 one year in the Playoffs. He easily surpassed all those numbers U posted since his Rookie season. Do U know your a troll or are you serious with some of your posts? Why cant U admit he is better than KObe ever was and will finish ranked higher all time.
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:07 AM
Really Cause HE has never averaged under 47% from the Field. The Cavs were never Super Stacked and he averaged 35,10,8 one year in the Playoffs. He easily surpassed all those numbers U posted since his Rookie season. Do U know your a troll or are you serious with some of your posts. Why cant U admit he is better than KObe ever was and will finish ranked higher all time.
Is Kobe the measuring point of LeBrons whole career??
Kingwillball
02-27-2013, 05:08 AM
Is Kobe the measuring point of LeBrons whole career??
Nope but since a Kobe troll made an asinine post I had to bring him up.
Dave3
02-27-2013, 05:11 AM
Yeah and the Spurs shut him down hard:lol
So that one series is all that matters, and his 4 years with those guys (and 2 more with Mo Williams, Wally, Varejao, and 39 y/o Shaq) don't?
His 30/9/7 on 50%, his 32/6/6 on 48%, his 28/7/7 on 49%, none of those happened?
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:14 AM
Nope but since a Kobe troll made an asinine post I had to bring him up.
Yeah you really showed him a thing or two:applause:
Also another great random statistic to prop up LeBron. I cringed everytime the idiot commentators mentioned his 6 games in a row of over 30 points, 60% fg:facepalm
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:17 AM
So that one series is all that matters, and his 4 years with those guys (and 2 more with Mo Williams, Wally, Varejao, and 39 y/o Shaq) don't?
His 30/9/7 on 50%, his 32/6/6 on 48%, his 28/7/7 on 49%, none of those happened?
What did he win exactly in that time??
When the defense clamped down on him he struggled/ choked/ whatever you want to call it. He couldnt win as a lone superstar was the point.
You're arguing BUT HIS NUMBERS WERE GOOD:facepalm
some bald dude, what's his name, averaged 32-8-8 for an entire season.
some older dude earlier averaged an entire triple-couble for the season dude.
but they weren't cranking it out at 64%...
Dave3
02-27-2013, 05:19 AM
What did he win exactly in that time??
When the defense clamped down on him he struggled/ choked/ whatever you want to call it. He couldnt win as a lone superstar was the point.
You're arguing BUT HIS NUMBERS WERE GOOD:facepalm
When was that ever my point? You're changing an argument into something else. I was responding to a post that said he would average 25/4/4 on 40% if he ever had an unstacked team. There's no point in this thread in which I was arguing he could win alone...
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:20 AM
some bald dude, what's his name, averaged 32-8-8 for an entire season.
some older dude earlier averaged an entire triple-couble for the season dude.
but they weren't cranking it out at 64%...
But LeBronze did it for 6 games in a row!!!! OMG:bowdown: :bowdown:
ihoopallday
02-27-2013, 05:24 AM
But LeBronze did it for 6 games in a row!!!! OMG:bowdown: :bowdown:
For a Laker fan, you sure do seem to invest alot of time in these LeBron threads. Yeah, you seem very mad.
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:26 AM
For a Laker fan, you sure do seem to invest alot of time in these LeBron threads. Yeah, you seem very mad.
yes i am mad. very original
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
RoundMoundOfReb
02-27-2013, 05:28 AM
When was that ever my point? You're changing an argument into something else. I was responding to a post that said he would average 25/4/4 on 40% if he ever had an unstacked team. There's no point in this thread in which I was arguing he could win alone...
Dude don't respond to ripthekik. He's just a troll.
Poetry
02-27-2013, 05:36 AM
I've never seen a player dominate a month like LeBron dominated February.
13 Games - 29.7 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 7.8 APG | 64 FG%
http://i52.tinypic.com/n2h9is.png
RoundMoundOfReb
02-27-2013, 05:39 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/n2h9is.png
:applause:
coin24
02-27-2013, 05:41 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/n2h9is.png
repped. a fine example of a very selective statistic:applause: :applause:
Poetry
02-27-2013, 05:46 AM
a fine example of a very selective statistic:applause: :applause:
.668 FG% :pimp:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2yz0e2s.png
comerb
02-27-2013, 07:56 AM
um.. without the super stacked team, all his stats will drop. he's going to get double teamed all game long, you think he'll still be this effective? he's going to shoot around 40%, grab only around 3-4 rebounds because there are bodies on him, and he's only going to get around 3-4 assists because there is no wade or bosh or ray allen to pass to.
without his super stacked team:
25 points 4 rebounds 4 assists 40%
still great though.
You do know he played on the Cavs for 7 years, right? You know, that team where his #2 guy was Mo Williams... and that lost 26 straight and went 19-63 after Lebron left.
He averaged 29.7p 8.6a & 7.3r on .503 in his last year.
chips93
02-27-2013, 08:14 AM
.668 FG% :pimp:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2yz0e2s.png
not enough FGA, but a fantastic month nonetheless.
#number6ix#
02-27-2013, 08:19 AM
That's why he's the KING!!!!
KOBE143
02-27-2013, 08:42 AM
What is this first player selective stats bullshit crap?
Kobe was the first player to score 80+pts while shooting more than 60% from the field since Wilt Chamberlain weak era.. See.. I can also make my own, pretty easily.. :facepalm
Fatstogey
02-27-2013, 08:53 AM
Seriously? With a name of 1987 I thought you would have seen more impressive. Besides the shooting percentage I am sure there have been guys who have averaged close to triple double averages for a month or who have averaged 40ppg a month with really good reb/ast numbers. MJ in 88 possibly?
Um... FG%? I could make 40ppg taking 40 shots no prob. You cant just ignore how many shots are taken. Lebron could average 50 ppg if he wanted. But he wants to win teh finals. And he gets his teammates involved.
In MJs day people had no problem riding his coattails and jus twatching him play. During this age everyone is good and wants the ball. Lebron cant just take 30 shots a game like MJ.
OldSchoolBBall
02-27-2013, 09:48 AM
I've never seen a player dominate a month like LeBron dominated February.
13 Games - 29.7 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 7.8 APG | 64 FG% | 1.8 SPG | .6 BPG
Jordan 3/1/90-4/1/90: 37.1 pts/7.9 reb/6.0 ast/3.8 stl/.9 blk/56% FG/33.1 GameScore
Jordan 3/1/89-4/1/89 - 28.5 pts/8.7/11.2 ast/51% FG/26.6 GameScore
By comparison, Lebron in February has a 28.2 GameScore average. And this is if we just look at months exclusively rather than any 30-day span, in which case Jordan had month-long stretches like these:
32.7 pts/9.9 reb/10.7 ast/2.5 stl/.8 blk/51% FG/30.5 GameScore
38.1 pts/7.7 reb/5.8 ast/3.6 stl/1.0 blk/56% FG/33.7 GameScore
PLAYOFFS - 38.4 pts/7.4 reb/6.8 ast/3.2 stl/.9 blk/52% FG/30.6 GameScore
PLAYOFFS, 3 Weeks - 37.5 pts/7.8 reb/8.3 ast/2.7 stl/53% FG/31.4 GameScore
I'm sure guys like KAJ, Shaq, Bird, Magic, and Wilt have had similar/better months than Lebron too.
Mo Williams
Kobe
Anthony Parker
Jamison
Illgauskas
How many rings? Would Kobe have had his 5 by now?
Jesus, people act as if Lebron did bad with those Cavs..
SilkkTheShocker
02-27-2013, 10:55 AM
coin24 is legit butthurt right now :oldlol:
Bandito
02-27-2013, 10:58 AM
Um... FG%? I could make 40ppg taking 40 shots no prob. You cant just ignore how many shots are taken. Lebron could average 50 ppg if he wanted. But he wants to win teh finals. And he gets his teammates involved.
In MJs day people had no problem riding his coattails and jus twatching him play. During this age everyone is good and wants the ball. Lebron cant just take 30 shots a game like MJ.
Let's be honest, Lebron lost 2 finals playing "his" way. Hes 1-3. Don't pretend like all Lebron does is win win win. MJ and even Kobe "selfishly" shots their teams to the championship 6 and 5 times respectively thanks to their "teams". They didn't do it by themselves.
STATUTORY
02-27-2013, 11:03 AM
why does the thread title say "shoot" when he scores primarily with dunks and layups? :confusedshrug:
partial out all the fastbreak dunks and layups then tell me what his fg% is.
RoundMoundOfReb
02-27-2013, 11:10 AM
why does the thread title say "shoot" when he scores primarily with dunks and layups? :confusedshrug:
partial out all the fastbreak dunks and layups then tell me what his fg% is.
A layup is worth just as many points as a jumper, you know? He's shooting 42.7% on shots more than 10 ft away for the season btw.
Sarcastic
02-27-2013, 11:12 AM
I love how they always put caveats with Lebron. They always adjust minimum attempts to either include him, or exclude someone else.
Dave3
02-27-2013, 11:14 AM
why does the thread title say "shoot" when he scores primarily with dunks and layups? :confusedshrug:
partial out all the fastbreak dunks and layups then tell me what his fg% is.
Sure. In February (the subject of this thread), on 3s it's 43%, on shots just inside the 3 (16-23) he shot 63% (yeah, that's not a typo...), and on 3-15 feet, he shot 68%.
Was that sufficient?
Mr. Incredible
02-27-2013, 11:26 AM
So much better than Kobe. Not even close.
InfiniteBaskets
02-27-2013, 11:28 AM
Sure. In February (the subject of this thread), on 3s it's 43%, on shots just inside the 3 (16-23) he shot 63% (yeah, that's not a typo...), and on 3-15 feet, he shot 68%.
Was that sufficient?
LeBron is laying it up from the 3 point line so it's skewing his average.
chosen_one6
02-27-2013, 11:31 AM
why does the thread title say "shoot" when he scores primarily with dunks and layups? :confusedshrug:
partial out all the fastbreak dunks and layups then tell me what his fg% is.
http://i.imgur.com/Y5UyDIB.gif
So with your logic, lets take away three pointers from Kevin Durants PPG and see how many points he scores per game because he shoots so many
:roll:
Y'all LeBron haters crack me up.
And there's a minimum attempt number on the stat so that random role players that only played 20 minutes a game and made 3 out of 4 shots don't get accounted for. Come on people. :facepalm
SilkkTheShocker
02-27-2013, 11:35 AM
Kobe fans love to discredit MVPs, FG%, and PER. :oldlol:
Roundball_Rock
02-27-2013, 12:01 PM
Jordan 3/1/90-4/1/90: 37.1 pts/7.9 reb/6.0 ast/3.8 stl/.9 blk/56% FG/33.1 GameScore
Jordan 3/1/89-4/1/89 - 28.5 pts/8.7/11.2 ast/51% FG/26.6 GameScore
By comparison, Lebron in February has a 28.2 GameScore average. And this is if we just look at months exclusively rather than any 30-day span, in which case Jordan had month-long stretches like these:
32.7 pts/9.9 reb/10.7 ast/2.5 stl/.8 blk/51% FG/30.5 GameScore
38.1 pts/7.7 reb/5.8 ast/3.6 stl/1.0 blk/56% FG/33.7 GameScore
PLAYOFFS - 38.4 pts/7.4 reb/6.8 ast/3.2 stl/.9 blk/52% FG/30.6 GameScore
PLAYOFFS, 3 Weeks - 37.5 pts/7.8 reb/8.3 ast/2.7 stl/53% FG/31.4 GameScore
I'm sure guys like KAJ, Shaq, Bird, Magic, and Wilt have had similar/better months than Lebron too.
:oldlol: at comparing FG % straight up. Lebron is doing this while taking 3.4 three's a game (at 43% in February). Jordan's highest FG % seasons all came when he took 0.6-1.2 three's a game (at 18%, 28%, and 31%). Moreover, Lebron is not jacking 25+ shots along with 10-11 FTA a game to achieve these results. Lebron's efficiency is off the charts and comes within the team context. If he were limited to only taking 2 pointers he would likely be around 67-69%. No perimeter player has ever approached this level of efficiency.
We are all witnesses. :bowdown:
lebeast666
02-27-2013, 12:20 PM
some bald dude, what's his name, averaged 32-8-8 for an entire season.
some older dude earlier averaged an entire triple-couble for the season dude.
but they weren't cranking it out at 64%...
Faster pace era. More possessions = more pts, rebs, asts. :confusedshrug: Reason why MJ was able to take more shots than LeBron/KD and still avg 8asts/8rebs
TheMarkMadsen
02-27-2013, 12:23 PM
Didn't he play with Jeff Mcinnis, Eric Snow, Larry Highes, Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, and Zydrunas Ilgauskus? Does that looks like an all star supporting cast to you?
you forgot Carlos Boozer and Big Z was an all star in 05, along with Hughes still being a very productive player.
Not an all star supporting cast by any means, but people always love to leave out that Big Z was a 2x all star & Carlos Boozer made a name for himself in a Cavs uniform
This is a great accomplishment but surely 64% is a very selective stat.
Why not 65? why not 63?
EDIT: Barkley's stats a few pages ago are a good example
Dave3
02-27-2013, 12:45 PM
you forgot Carlos Boozer and Big Z was an all star in 05, along with Hughes still being a very productive player.
Not an all star supporting cast by any means, but people always love to leave out that Big Z was a 2x all star & Carlos Boozer made a name for himself in a Cavs uniform
This is a great accomplishment but surely 64% is a very selective stat.
Why not 65? why not 63?
EDIT: Barkley's stats a few pages ago are a good example
Carlos Boozer was a sophomore and LeBron was a rookie. I said 4 years for a reason - I wasn't including his rookie year in assessing his statistical potential. Larry Hughes was absolute crap when he got to the Cavs and was never "productive" with them at all. And yeah I know Z was an all star in 2005 (and 2003) - but after that it was downhill and it's not like you needed to be a great player to make it as a center on the Eastern All star team. Can anyone even name the second best big in the East in 2005 after Shaq?
I was never trying to make any point other than what you already conceded, he never played with an All Star level supporting cast. Yeah Boozer was there (in LeBon's rookie year, so that means next to nothing) and yeah Z had one all star year.
And yeah 64% is selective, but it's selected based on the fact that it's his shooting percentage. If someone was to score at least 67, they would say "the last person to score 67 was in 200X). You can be selective when you're talking about just one stat. It's not like they said "last person to average 29, 7, 7, and 64% and 43% 3s, etc. etc. They just said last person to shoot this high. There's no issue of being too selective there.
All Net
02-27-2013, 04:25 PM
PER of 38
Kareem :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
@EliasSports tells us @KingJames is 1st player to shoot 64% FG in a month (min 200 att) since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in March 1983
LeBron's month:
217 FGA, .641 %
Some of Shaq's months that were pretty close:
'93 jan - 213 FGA - .639 %
'93 dec - 307 FGA - .612 %
'94 jan - 291 FGA - .619 %
'94 march - 324 FGA - .580 %
'95 dec - 337 FGA - .591 %
'96 nov - 296 FGA - .605 %
'99 march - 308 FGA .591
'00 march - 376 FGA .590
'02 march - 293 FGA .614
'03 march - 320 FGA .588
'04 feb - 216 FGA .639
'05 jan - 245 FGA .620
'06 feb - 140 FGA .643
'06 apr - 97 FGA .680 (8 games)
'08 march - 128 FGA .648
'09 feb - 142 FGA .641
'09 march - 192 FGA .641
'10 jan - 125 FGA .648
'10 nov - 62 FGA .694
'11 jan - 65 FGA .677 (39 year old shaq in his very last season...)
So basically although it is technically true, it is just another made up stat, and Shaq had several far more impressive months in this regard.
He even came to within 0.001% two times :D
chosen_one6
02-27-2013, 05:52 PM
LeBron's month:
217 FGA, .641 %
Some of Shaq's months that were pretty close:
'93 jan - 213 FGA - .639 %
'93 dec - 307 FGA - .612 %
'94 jan - 291 FGA - .619 %
'94 march - 324 FGA - .580 %
'95 dec - 337 FGA - .591 %
'96 nov - 296 FGA - .605 %
'99 march - 308 FGA .591
'00 march - 376 FGA .590
'02 march - 293 FGA .614
'03 march - 320 FGA .588
'04 feb - 216 FGA .639
'05 jan - 245 FGA .620
'06 feb - 140 FGA .643
'06 apr - 97 FGA .680 (8 games)
'08 march - 128 FGA .648
'09 feb - 142 FGA .641
'09 march - 192 FGA .641
'10 jan - 125 FGA .648
'10 nov - 62 FGA .694
'11 jan - 65 FGA .677 (39 year old shaq in his very last season...)
So basically although it is technically true, it is just another made up stat, and Shaq had several far more impressive months in this regard.
He even came to within 0.001% two times :D
The thing is, Shaq was a center that lived in the paint. The fact that LeGawd can do it and he's a wing player and taking three's is just holier than thou.
All hail the King! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
:oldlol: @ that butt-hurt Kobe stan on the first page. LeBron averaged 38 points / 8 rebounds / 8 assists on the Cleveland Cavs in 08-09 playoff run. 38/8/8 and they somehow still lost. :wtf:
coin24
02-27-2013, 06:20 PM
:oldlol: @ that butt-hurt Kobe stan on the first page. LeBron averaged 38 points / 8 rebounds / 8 assists on the Cleveland Cavs in 08-09 playoff run. 38/8/8 and they somehow still lost. :wtf:
So what team do you actually follow? Or are you just a sad Lebron stan laker hater because its cool?:confusedshrug:
You have a very exciting life it seems:lol
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