Will D-Wade's Resurgence Cost LBJ season MVP?

[gengiskhan]

FLASH BACK!

1997: Scottie Pippen had unbelievable reg season run for a MONTH to MONTH-AND-A-HALF!

Pippen won PLAYER OF THE MONTH over MJ and everyone was crediting Scottie to be the most COMPLETE PLAYER IN THE NBA as he played steller perimeter defense along with great offense.

That resulted MJ not able to defend his 1996 season MVP even though he had better efficiency & playing weight than 1996 MJ as his jumpshot was little better in 1997.

Malone won the 1997 MVP over MJ as Stockton was no Scottie to Malone.

This 15 games MIA winning streak has AS MUCH Wade written on it as LBJ!

Can this happen again!

Wade is suppose to be on the decline & a notch lower than his past. He aint playing like that.

will that result LBJ not defending his season MVP like 1997 MJ despite playing at higher level!!

Last yr. Westbrook's play costed Durant his season MVP.

your thoughts!

[RoundMoundOfReb]

No because westbrook has been outplaying durant recently.

[tpols]

Nope. It won't.

[DaSeba5]

No

[upside24]

Doubt it. He has performed at an amazing level consistently over the entire season and is the clear reason for the Heat's success.

As good as Wade has been at times, LeBron has been better and is the best player in the league.

I think it's in the bag for LeBron. The Heat will extend their win streak to probably around 20 if they beat the Pacers and will finish the season strong.

[pegasus]

He got it last year because Wade was injured, and he'll get it this year because Wade is just as good? Makes no sense.

[raid09]

He got it last year because Wade was injured, and he'll get it this year because Wade is just as good? Makes no sense.

He got it last year because Wade was injured and he was slightly better than Durant.

He'll get it this year because the media have chosen him as the story of the year (and he's been slightly better than Durant), and he's playing well enough and winning enough to deserve it.

[arifgokcen]

The problem with that theory is jordan was 34 at the time and was a shell of himself and frankly wasnt that good in regular season(note that i am not comparing him to anyone else just himself).

Lebron is performing much better(regular season) compared to 34 year old jordan (which is expected of course nobody beats father time)

[G-Funk]

it could but the media will overlook that, but then again Shaq got dawged in his prime

[chips93]

He got it last year because Wade was injured, and he'll get it this year because Wade is just as good? Makes no sense.

he got it last year because he was the best player in the league

same applies for this year.

[G-Funk]

he got it last year because he was the best player in the league

same applies for this year.
And Shaq was not the best in late 90's early 00's?

[tmacattack33]

You wish.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Had this been a few months back? Maybe. Fact is, we're three quarters into the season. Lebron has his 4th MVP locked up.

[LikeABosh]

Westbrook is playing just as good as Wade.

[longhornfan1234]

LeBron is biggest reason for Wade's resurgence. Wade would average around 18-20 ppg on 44% without the King.

[francesco totti]

Lebron was on a planet of his own so much this year, that whatever goes for rest of years ...he isnt going to lose it.

4 time player of the month, won the direct encounters vs his main league mvp rival..and has the team record.

[LikeABosh]

Lebron is part of the reason for Wade's resurgence. They've really learned how to play well with each other. Wade is moving great without the ball and Lebron always finds him, spoon feeding him with great passes

[pauk]

Nope.

The "resurgance" is only a couple of games where Lebron was coasting and playing unselfish (including a game with a sore knee), a "resurgance" which cant be compared to Lebrons resurgance this season at all.

Next in line after him for MVP is Durant anyways, who has a worse record and a teammate that had a much better resurgance than Wade and unlike Wade played great entire season.

[arifgokcen]

LeBron is biggest reason for Wade's resurgence. Wade would average around 18-20 ppg on 44% without the King.


Nope.

Durant has an even better performing teammate who unlike Wade played great the entire season.

Wow you really dont remember how poorly he was shooting first couple of months.He was consistently criticized for this.

I dont disagree lebron is gonna win MVP but wade's resurgence has nothing to do with lebron and he is playing better than westbrook at this point(as amazing as he is wade has been better since february.Wade is playing fantastic because he is healthy.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Well as we can see according to Lebron fans MVP is awarded based off what you did before the all star break & nothing else after that matters

[Fudge]

Dude, he's pretty much a lock. Sucks as a Durant fan, but thats reality. Unless they go on a huge losing streak towards the end of the season, along with shitty numbers from LeBron, i dont see how anybody else is gonna get it.

[Nash]

Thing is, there is no other guys to give it to. Westbrook is playing as good as Wade is right now so it can't be Durant. There is no star player who is doing it all by himself, like Rose was doing 2 years ago.

The fact that Lebron is having a legendary season and that there are no legit alternatives out there basically secures Lebron the MVP.

[pauk]

Wow you really dont remember how poorly he was shooting first couple of months.He was consistently criticized for this.

I dont disagree lebron is gonna win MVP but wade's resurgence has nothing to do with lebron and he is playing better than westbrook at this point(as amazing as he is wade has been better since february.Wade is playing fantastic because he is healthy.

Wade is taking more shots, Lebron is averaging season highs in assists and season lows in FG attempts.... it has to do a bit with Lebron and i dont complain, i think this is great... they are winning...

About Westbrook, yes but he has performed/produced overall better than Wade.

[imnew09]

LeBron is biggest reason for Wade's resurgence. Wade would average around 18-20 ppg on 44% without the King.


Said no Dwayne Wade ever.

[HiphopRelated]

Wade is taking more shots, Lebron is averaging season highs in assists and season lows in FG attempts.... it has to do a bit with Lebron and i dont complain, i think this is great... they are winning...

About Westbrook, yes but he has performed/produced overall better than Wade.
That's because Wade was averaging career lows in FGA.

Did you really think he would go around averaging 15 shots?

[Papaya Petee]

About Westbrook, yes but he has performed/produced overall better than Wade.

No he hasn't you assclown, Wade the past 2 months has been better then Westbrook, and his efficiency is lights out better than Russell's.

Wades also been the best player in the 4th quarter since the winning streak, he's been closing out games.

[Mr. Incredible]

The haters make me laugh every time. LeBron is the MVP once again.



Deal with it.

[Ikill]

LeBron is biggest reason for Wade's resurgence. Wade would average around 18-20 ppg on 44% without the King.
http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player-vs-player.html#LeBron-James-vs-Dwyane-Wade|2544,2548;year=201213;season=r

[longtime lurker]

It's already been established that having Wade on the team doesn't change whether Lebron is MVP in the mind of the voters and why should it? Also the voters are idiots but that's another story.

[jlip]

As has been stated, Lebron's chief rival for the MVP, Durant, is in the same situation that he is in. Both of their "2nd options" are "resurging" at the same moment. Here are the stats of both Wade and Westbrook in Feb. and Mar. (so far)

Edit: Also Compare the "resurging '2nd options" stats to the star players' stats over these same stretches.

Westbrook
Feb.- 11 games 25.5ppg 3.9rpg 6.1apg 50.3fg%
Durant
Feb.- 11 games 24.4ppg 9.2rpg 5.5apg 48.5fg%

Westbrook
Mar.- 3 games 34.7ppg 7.3rpg 6.7apg 52.8fg%
Durant
Mar.- 3 games 28.7ppg 10.7rpg 4.0apg 41.8fg%

Wade
Feb.- 13 games 23.9ppg 6.2rpg 5.5apg 53.2fg%
Lebron
Feb. 13 games 29.7ppg 7.5rpg 7.8apg 64.1fg%

Wade
Mar.- 3 games 24.7ppg 6.3rpg 8.7apg 58.2fg%
Lebron
Mar.- 3 games 22.3ppg 9.7rpg 7.0apg 47.2fg%

If somehow Wade had started to improve while Westbrook was struggling causing Durant to "carry" the team then Durant's case would be stronger, and Lebron's MVP chances would decrease. But that's not the case. Couple that with the fact that Tony Parker will be out a month, and CP3 has already missed 12 games, Lebron's MVP chances are pretty good at the moment. Barring some unexpected collapse or slump over the last 1/4 of the season, the MVP is pretty much his.

[Hoopz2332]

no, because Lberon has been playing on a godlly level above Wade while esbrokk has been playing much better than Durant

copy and paste from another board..



According to basketball reference and the game scores in the game logs for this season, Russell Westbrook has outplayed Durant 19 of 59 games this season, which is 33% of their games played together (with one game them having an identical score). Wade has had 9 games better than LeBron, 18% of the games they've played together.

Durant hasn't posted a better game score than Westbrook for the last three games.

In that 15 game win streak, LeBron has played better than Wade in 11 games according to gamescore.

It seems like Westbrook's recent play has been providing a further disadvantage for Durant and hurting his chances of catching a distant LeBron, since Westbrook's been outplaying Durant more regularly than Wade outplaying LeBron. Don't ignore that.

[HiphopRelated]

LeBron is biggest reason for Wade's resurgence. Wade would average around 18-20 ppg on 44% without the King.
what a load of shit

[gengiskhan]

what a load of shit

thats actually true.

I believe LBJ saved Wade's career from NOSE DIVING.

2011 Heat, we already saw Wade declining as he lost first step. Not good for a SG who doesn't have Kobe-like complete post-up game.

2012 Heat, we already saw Wade injured & performing mediocre.

2013 Heat, Wade is resurging like crazy despite being 2 yrs older. & this had everything to do with LBJ's play.

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2011 LBJ on MIA, dropped off a notch. Tried hard SHARING a ball with co-captain Wade & please him & please NBA Fans for 2010 THE DECISION.

2012 LBJ on MIA, took charge went back to CAVs LBJ era. Wade injured. LBJ stepped up even further. delivered season MVP, FMVP = CLEAN MVP SWEEP.

2013 LBJ on MIA playing like top 10 GOAT as he hits peak prime years. hence all the pressure is off Wade hence AGING WADE RESURGING. Even Bosh is joining the party.

Yes.

LBJ IS THE REASON FOR WADE"S RESURGENCE & MUST BE GIVEN CREDIT WITH SEASON MVP IF YOU ASK ME.

Unlike Kobe who is destroying HOWARD, LBJ can actually make his 2nd fiddle play a NOTCH HIGHER just like MJ made PIPPEN play BETTER!

[ripthekik]

no, steroid and other performance enhancing drugs are what will cost lebron his mvp

[Shepseskaf]

LBJ will be MVP.

[Ikill]

thats actually true.

I believe LBJ saved Wade's career from NOSE DIVING.

2011 Heat, we already saw Wade declining as he lost first step. Not good for a SG who doesn't have Kobe-like complete post-up game.

2012 Heat, we already saw Wade injured & performing mediocre.

2013 Heat, Wade is resurging like crazy despite being 2 yrs older. & this had everything to do with LBJ's play.

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2011 LBJ on MIA, dropped off a notch. Tried hard SHARING a ball with co-captain Wade & please him & please NBA Fans for 2010 THE DECISION.

2012 LBJ on MIA, took charge went back to CAVs LBJ era. Wade injured. LBJ stepped up even further. delivered season MVP, FMVP = CLEAN MVP SWEEP.

2013 LBJ on MIA playing like top 10 GOAT as he hits peak prime years. hence all the pressure is off Wade hence AGING WADE RESURGING. Even Bosh is joining the party.

Yes.

LBJ IS THE REASON FOR WADE"S RESURGENCE & MUST BE GIVEN CREDIT WITH SEASON MVP IF YOU ASK ME.

Unlike Kobe who is destroying HOWARD, LBJ can actually make his 2nd fiddle play a NOTCH HIGHER just like MJ made PIPPEN play BETTER!
Wade plays better with Lebron on the bench
http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player-vs-player.html#LeBron-James-vs-Dwyane-Wade|2544,2548;year=201213;season=r

Wade was not declining in 2011 he didn't show any signs of decline until he got injured even the first few games of the 2012 season he was looking super athletic.

[tazb]

Well, same with Durant. Westbrook has been out-performing him as of late and now Parker is injured and the Spurs are still winning. So I guess the MVP is going to no one. :confusedshrug:

[Jolokia]

All I know is that Wade is Lebron's leader.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Westbrook is playing better than Wade anyway. It'll come down to who has the best record.

[SilkkTheShocker]

All I know is that Wade is Lebron's leader.


Every other post is you finding away to prop Wade up and put LeBron down.

[Kingwillball]

Westbrook is playing better than Wade anyway. It'll come down to who has the best record.


What will come down to best Record and between who ? Lebron has it all but locked up already. If they can go on an NBA long Winning streak for season it will also just put icing on the cake.

[HiphopRelated]

thats actually true.

I believe LBJ saved Wade's career from NOSE DIVING.

2011 Heat, we already saw Wade declining as he lost first step. Not good for a SG who doesn't have Kobe-like complete post-up game.

2012 Heat, we already saw Wade injured & performing mediocre.

2013 Heat, Wade is resurging like crazy despite being 2 yrs older. & this had everything to do with LBJ's play.

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2011 LBJ on MIA, dropped off a notch. Tried hard SHARING a ball with co-captain Wade & please him & please NBA Fans for 2010 THE DECISION.

2012 LBJ on MIA, took charge went back to CAVs LBJ era. Wade injured. LBJ stepped up even further. delivered season MVP, FMVP = CLEAN MVP SWEEP.

2013 LBJ on MIA playing like top 10 GOAT as he hits peak prime years. hence all the pressure is off Wade hence AGING WADE RESURGING. Even Bosh is joining the party.

Yes.

LBJ IS THE REASON FOR WADE"S RESURGENCE & MUST BE GIVEN CREDIT WITH SEASON MVP IF YOU ASK ME.

Unlike Kobe who is destroying HOWARD, LBJ can actually make his 2nd fiddle play a NOTCH HIGHER just like MJ made PIPPEN play BETTER!
I stopped reading at Wade showing decline in 2011...carry on

[Kurosawa0]

The MVP race is done guys. LeBron's getting it. There was a little momentum for Tony Parker there for a bit, but he got hurt and will miss probably all the meaningful games remaining.

Durant's not getting it because you can't make any legit claim that he's better than LeBron. LeBron outplayed him in the Finals and Miami has beaten OKC in the two meetings this year. There's not a narrative for Durant.

It's a wrap guys. Miami is going to cruise to the top seed in the East and that'll do it.

[Rubio2Gasol]

What will come down to best Record and between who ? Lebron has it all but locked up already. If they can go on an NBA long Winning streak for season it will also just put icing on the cake.

Whatever.

One of the more pointless awards I've seen.

[TheNaturalWR]

lol @ Wade slowing down in 2011. He was the best player in the league that season, foh with that ish.

[gengiskhan]

lol @ Wade slowing down in 2011. He was the best player in the league that season, foh with that ish.

You meant 2010 wade when he was the SCORING LEADER of the NBA.

2011 was the first year LBJ-Wade-Bosh trio got going in MIA.

2011 saw both LBJ & Wade SLUMP in stats & efficiency as MIA couldn't figure out who is their REAL LEADER as we only saw Co-Captains in LBJ & Wade.