It's not right that Kobe is still beasting

[SacJB Shady]

This guy is almost 35. He's supposed to be washed up. We think Richard Jefferson is old. He's like 3 years younger than Kobe. It seems like Kobe has started to dunk on people lately, viciously. I mean he's dunkin on Josh Smith and Brook Lopez. His dunking days are supposed to be done.

The guy is on steroids and the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs if it weren't for him juicing like he's Lance Armstrong. Obviously, you can tell he has an angry look in his eyes lately. Seriously, he looks like he's going to explode and punch a dude, it creeps me out. He already has recovered from that injury from yesterday. Nothing stops him from going off. He goes on 20 to 0 runs against the Hornets. Game winning basket, another dunk.

The only reason the league is letting him fly under the radar is so they can make money. Of course they're gonna go after little fish like Turgoglu. That way the ''nobodies'' as Howard would say, won't be competitive with the big dogs.

[Haymaker]

Get used to it. Modern medicine and training methods can help athletes with their longevity. Just look at Bernard Hopkins and Randy Couture. For modern athletes, the 40's are the new 30's.

[red1]

how dumb are you?

[SacJB Shady]

Get used to it. Modern medicine and training methods can help athletes with their longevity. Just look at Bernard Hopkins and Randy Couture. For modern athletes, the 40's are the new 30's.



Modern medicine as in PED's. Kobe is supposed to be done. He cheats.

[AceManIII]

It's not right that you're allowed to post threads

[DukeDelonte13]

dat work ethic.

[Haymaker]

Modern medicine as in PED's. Kobe is supposed to be done. He cheats.

It's not cheating when almost everybody is doing it.

[SacJB Shady]

It's not right that you're allowed to post threads



wack punch line

[SacJB Shady]

It's not cheating when almost everybody is doing it.


No. Lee and Curry are not. Durant is not either.

[Magic 32]

Why is he the only one then?

Idiot.

[Magic 32]

MJ at 35.

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/gty_michael_jordan_celebrates_nba_1998_ss1_jt_1302 16_ssv.jpg

Kobe at 35

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/02/19/2013-02-19-kobe-bryant-4_3_r536_c534.jpg?1b79b3da202957124496e3768cfb7b67 cdb10c81

Clealy someone was on PED.

[shady6121]

This guy is almost 35. He's supposed to be washed up. We think Richard Jefferson is old. He's like 3 years younger than Kobe. It seems like Kobe has started to dunk on people lately, viciously. I mean he's dunkin on Josh Smith and Brook Lopez. His dunking days are supposed to be done.

The guy is on steroids and the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs if it weren't for him juicing like he's Lance Armstrong. Obviously, you can tell he has an angry look in his eyes lately. Seriously, he looks like he's going to explode and punch a dude, it creeps me out. He already has recovered from that injury from yesterday. Nothing stops him from going off. He goes on 20 to 0 runs against the Hornets. Game winning basket, another dunk.

The only reason the league is letting him fly under the radar is so they can make money. Of course they're gonna go after little fish like Turgoglu. That way the ''nobodies'' as Howard would say, won't be competitive with the big dogs.

stfu f*ggot and change your username you piece of shit.

[red1]

stfu f*ggot and change your username you piece of shit.
:oldlol:

[kshutts1]

Someone beat me to it, but this bears repeating:

http://www.nba.com/history/players/jordan_stats.html

Check out the stats for '97 (jordan was 33/34) and '98 (Jordan was 34/35).

Just sayin'

[KenneBell]

MJ at 35.

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/gty_michael_jordan_celebrates_nba_1998_ss1_jt_1302 16_ssv.jpg

Kobe at 35

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/02/19/2013-02-19-kobe-bryant-4_3_r536_c534.jpg?1b79b3da202957124496e3768cfb7b67 cdb10c81

Clealy someone was on PED.
*Waits for Loki*

[Godzuki]

he's playing a lot smarter too, the smartest he has his entire career. even tho he scored more and had some great years before i think this could be the best year of his career. that experimental whatever surgery he got in Germany must be a breakthru in modern medicine since he looks like he's in prime form.

[Shep]

kobe beasting against some of the worst teams in the history of the nba and goes 6-22 against anyone else :bowdown:

[SilkkTheShocker]

kobe beasting against some of the worst teams in the history of the nba and goes 6-22 against anyone else :bowdown:


:oldlol:

[SacJB Shady]

he's playing a lot smarter too, the smartest he has his entire career. even tho he scored more and had some great years before i think this could be the best year of his career. that experimental whatever surgery he got in Germany must be a breakthru in modern medicine since he looks like he's in prime form.


probably steroids he got, it was a cover up

[Boogey]

U really that mad?

[BlueandGold]

Anyone can speculate. Kobe's body really isn't even all that impressive compared to a Lebron or Dwight, who consequently had a massive growth spurt during his 2nd season in the league. Lebron has obviously gotten bigger as well but it's been gradual, then again Bonds was gradual as well. If you just look at Lebron's chin.. wow.

[Funnyfuka]

how dumb are you?
he s not dumb, it holds some truth. But let's not forget that kobe is also an obsessive, ball nazi who s been playing since birth and has nothing else in his life. When you spend your whole life focusing on something, odds are you might get good at it at some point... Same can be said about any human activity.

He s on hgh, steroids, but they all are, and he s still better than others cause he s ****ing training 7/7 24/24 365 days a year. And, he prolly has great genetics for that particular sport, let's not forget his own father was a decent ball player.

[Funnyfuka]

It's not cheating when almost everybody is doing it.
it is still cheating. The real hypocrisy comes from the "fans" who dont want to see old tired guys not even able to run from one side of the court to the other or jump with their huge frames several hours a week... People support the whole thing by injecting money in the industry because they want to see juiced freaks going at each others. Animals, we are.

[game3524]

he's playing a lot smarter too, the smartest he has his entire career. even tho he scored more and had some great years before i think this could be the best year of his career. that experimental whatever surgery he got in Germany must be a breakthru in modern medicine since he looks like he's in prime form.

He is not predetermine things anymore, which has always been his one major flaw as a basketball player.

[NBASTATMAN]

It's not cheating when almost everybody is doing it.


I agree. Have you seen how fast Kobe is running ? He hasn't run like that in like 5-6 years.. But I also believe Wade has used them as well with his injuries and all.

[NBASTATMAN]

Anyone can speculate. Kobe's body really isn't even all that impressive compared to a Lebron or Dwight, who consequently had a massive growth spurt during his 2nd season in the league. Lebron has obviously gotten bigger as well but it's been gradual, then again Bonds was gradual as well. If you just look at Lebron's chin.. wow.

I doubt they are on Steroids but HGH I am sure of. Or some kind of testosterone boosting treatments

[NBASTATMAN]

kobe beasting against some of the worst teams in the history of the nba and goes 6-22 against anyone else :bowdown:


Kobe has played well vs the some of the good teams as well. :confusedshrug:

[ralph_i_el]

humans all have different speeds of aging :confusedshrug:

He had that new german knee therapy that apparently works. He looks like he wants to punch people because he does and he always has.

this thread is really retarded

[White Mamba]

:roll: :roll: :roll: ppl just can't accept greatness:facepalm

[tomtucker]

THE GOAT.........:bowdown:

[Eat Like A Bosh]

It's baffling how obsessiveness you are with the Lakers and Kobe despite not being a fan.

[SilkkTheShocker]

9th seed.

[longtime lurker]

I pray the Warriors miss the playoffs so you can go into full meltdown mode

[BlackVVaves]

kobe beasting against some of the worst teams in the history of the nba and goes 6-22 against anyone else :bowdown:

11/13/12 versus San Antonio (primarily defended by Leonard)
28 points
4 rebounds
8 assists
63% FG


1/11/13 versus OKC (primarily defended by Selfalosha)
21 points
9 rebounds
14 assists
67% FG


1/23/13 versus Memphis (primarily defended by Tony Allen)
29 points
3 rebounds
3 assists
48% FG


2/10/13 versus Miami (primarily defended by D. Wade & Lebron James)
28 points
6 rebounds
9 assists
58% FG


I have a severe distaste for Kobe (and Lebron) stans on this site, but I have an equally malevolent perception of you posters who waste our time reading your attempts at demeaning those same players.

I posted that information so you could effectively take Kobe's ******* out your mouth and dismantle your "witty" charade. Kobe does have some awful shooting nights (coupled with sometimes awful decision making), but to prance around trying to perpetuate this notion that he can only have sensational performances against below mediocre teams and defenders is ignorant, and quite simply the measuring stick of your intellectual competence.

I suppose OKC, Miami, San Antonio, and Memphis aren't the 4 top teams in the NBA right now and all season, but rather bottom feeders in their conference? I suppose Selfalosha, Lebron, Wade, Leonard, and Tony Allen aren't some of the best perimeter defenders this league offers, but rather D-League talent that simply let Kobe do what he pleases for lack of defensive capability?

Or maybe, just maybe, you just made yourself look like a part-time employee at F U C K Boy Incorporated, and should find a better day job than trying to discredit one of the 10 greatest players to ever lace them up.

Kobe ain't Jordan. And hell, at this point at his career, Kobe's not Lebron either. But Kobe is still a Top 5 player in the NBA, somehow at 34 years of age with 17 years of mileage on his knees, and still the best SG in the NBA since 2001 (though 2009 Wade is certainly debatable, and 2011 Wade is more than debatable considering Kobe was playing on one leg for half the season). Not some scrub at the YMCA playing pick up ball.

So take your head out your ass and show some respect. And that goes for Lebron detractors as well, talking about he only has .5 rings. STFU, you all sound like toddlers. Grow the **** up.

That is all.

[dynasty1978]

11/13/12 versus San Antonio (primarily defended by Leonard)
28 points
4 rebounds
8 assists
63% FG


1/11/13 versus OKC (primarily defended by Selfalosha)
21 points
9 rebounds
14 assists
67% FG


1/23/13 versus Memphis (primarily defended by Tony Allen)
29 points
3 rebounds
3 assists
48% FG


2/10/13 versus Miami (primarily defended by D. Wade & Lebron James)
28 points
6 rebounds
9 assists
58% FG


I have a severe distaste for Kobe (and Lebron) stans on this site, but I have an equally malevolent perception of you posters who waste our time reading your attempts at demeaning those same players.

I posted that information so you could effectively take Kobe's ******* out your mouth and dismantle your "witty" charade. Kobe does have some awful shooting nights (coupled with sometimes awful decision making), but to prance around trying to perpetuate this notion that he can only have sensational performances against below mediocre teams and defenders is ignorant, and quite simply the measuring stick of your intellectual competence.

I suppose OKC, Miami, San Antonio, and Memphis aren't the 4 top teams in the NBA right now and all season, but rather bottom feeders in their conference? I suppose Selfalosha, Lebron, Wade, Leonard, and Tony Allen aren't some of the best perimeter defenders this league offers, but rather D-League talent that simply let Kobe do what he pleases for lack of defensive capability?

Or maybe, just maybe, you just made yourself look like a part-time employee at F U C K Boy Incorporated, and should find a better day job than trying to discredit one of the 10 greatest players to ever lace them up.

Kobe ain't Jordan. And hell, at this point at his career, Kobe's not Lebron either. But Kobe is still a Top 5 player in the NBA, somehow at 34 years of age with 17 years of mileage on his knees, and still the best SG in the NBA since 2001 (though 2009 Wade is certainly debatable, and 2011 Wade is more than debatable considering Kobe was playing on one leg for half the season). Not some scrub at the YMCA playing pick up ball.

So take your head out your ass and show some respect. And that goes for Lebron detractors as well, talking about he only has .5 rings. STFU, you all sound like toddlers. Grow the **** up.

That is all.

Well Said :applause:

[kennethgriffin]

german knee cartilage surgery

+

a team of fitness experts

+

modern day nutrition science

+

work ethic

+

not drinking alcohol or doing drugs your entire life

+

protein supplements

+

advanced equipment

+

unlimited resources

+

a green light from your coach, franchise, team mates

+

a bit of luck



= the possibility of dominating at age 34




jordan only had half of these things and he dominated at age 35

:confusedshrug:

[L8kersfan222]

11/13/12 versus San Antonio (primarily defended by Leonard)
28 points
4 rebounds
8 assists
63% FG


1/11/13 versus OKC (primarily defended by Selfalosha)
21 points
9 rebounds
14 assists
67% FG


1/23/13 versus Memphis (primarily defended by Tony Allen)
29 points
3 rebounds
3 assists
48% FG


2/10/13 versus Miami (primarily defended by D. Wade & Lebron James)
28 points
6 rebounds
9 assists
58% FG


I have a severe distaste for Kobe (and Lebron) stans on this site, but I have an equally malevolent perception of you posters who waste our time reading your attempts at demeaning those same players.

I posted that information so you could effectively take Kobe's ******* out your mouth and dismantle your "witty" charade. Kobe does have some awful shooting nights (coupled with sometimes awful decision making), but to prance around trying to perpetuate this notion that he can only have sensational performances against below mediocre teams and defenders is ignorant, and quite simply the measuring stick of your intellectual competence.

I suppose OKC, Miami, San Antonio, and Memphis aren't the 4 top teams in the NBA right now and all season, but rather bottom feeders in their conference? I suppose Selfalosha, Lebron, Wade, Leonard, and Tony Allen aren't some of the best perimeter defenders this league offers, but rather D-League talent that simply let Kobe do what he pleases for lack of defensive capability?

Or maybe, just maybe, you just made yourself look like a part-time employee at F U C K Boy Incorporated, and should find a better day job than trying to discredit one of the 10 greatest players to ever lace them up.

Kobe ain't Jordan. And hell, at this point at his career, Kobe's not Lebron either. But Kobe is still a Top 5 player in the NBA, somehow at 34 years of age with 17 years of mileage on his knees, and still the best SG in the NBA since 2001 (though 2009 Wade is certainly debatable, and 2011 Wade is more than debatable considering Kobe was playing on one leg for half the season). Not some scrub at the YMCA playing pick up ball.

So take your head out your ass and show some respect. And that goes for Lebron detractors as well, talking about he only has .5 rings. STFU, you all sound like toddlers. Grow the **** up.

That is all.
ETHER

[INDI]

He is not predetermine things anymore, which has always been his one major flaw as a basketball player.

He still does. Just the other game I told my daughter what Kobe was going to do when he came up the court, and he did exactly that.

He has a pattern that when he makes a shot from a certain spot on the floor, he will 50 percent of the time try the exact same shot from the same spot. If he succeeds with the second shot then it is 99.8 percent chance he will attempt the same shot the next time up the court

[CavaliersFTW]

This guy is almost 35. He's supposed to be washed up. We think Richard Jefferson is old. He's like 3 years younger than Kobe. It seems like Kobe has started to dunk on people lately, viciously. I mean he's dunkin on Josh Smith and Brook Lopez. His dunking days are supposed to be done.

The guy is on steroids and the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs if it weren't for him juicing like he's Lance Armstrong. Obviously, you can tell he has an angry look in his eyes lately. Seriously, he looks like he's going to explode and punch a dude, it creeps me out. He already has recovered from that injury from yesterday. Nothing stops him from going off. He goes on 20 to 0 runs against the Hornets. Game winning basket, another dunk.

The only reason the league is letting him fly under the radar is so they can make money. Of course they're gonna go after little fish like Turgoglu. That way the ''nobodies'' as Howard would say, won't be competitive with the big dogs.

at least he isn't abusing HGH

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NLUVO6CZ1lo/URNNNfhavNI/AAAAAAAAEL8/xfMrnCLzMyY/s800/1109301121158993252.jpg

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

He still does. Just the other game I told my daughter what Kobe was going to do when he came up the court, and he did exactly that.

He has a pattern that when he makes a shot from a certain spot on the floor, he will 50 percent of the time try the exact same shot from the same spot. If he succeeds with the second shot then it is 99.8 percent chance he will attempt the same shot the next time up the court

Everyone does though. When you're feeling it and have a rhythm you continue to shoot with confidence. It's a scorer's mentality.

[ispin69]

VC is 36, you just gave him major props unintentionally. VC might be averaging less points per game but he still has a bunch of 20-30pt games though averaging 13ppg this season. KB and VC are both on sub 500 teams.

[imnew09]

-Coming from the Number Warrior fan who bash his own team like there's no tomorrow.

[G-train]

I think Kobe's, Duncan's and Garnett's play is highly suspect.

I don't want to think that, but 99.9% of sportspeople I have watched in the last 30 years that were competing at a level too good to be true have been doing drugs.

It's a sad fact.

Duncan was COOKED a few seasons back. Finished. Bryant sleeps a few hours a night and trains. After 17 seasons. Plays big minutes night after night.

Garnett runs around like a 28 year old. 82 games a season + playoffs with no drop off.

Something is happening with recovery here, and it's not just an ice bath.

[G-train]

VC is 36, you just gave him major props unintentionally. VC might be averaging less points per game but he still has a bunch of 20-30pt games though averaging 13ppg this season. KB and VC are both on sub 500 teams.

VC was done years ago. All of a sudden dropping 25 point games.

[SacJB Shady]

VC was done years ago. All of a sudden dropping 25 point games.


Yes. And Kobe and Duncan looked done. Seriously. Anyone is naive if they don't think they are on something

[1987_Lakers]

Why are people so easily trolled?:oldlol:

[G-train]

Why are people so easily trolled?:oldlol:

Doping is a legitimate issue and the NBA is dodgey.
I don't trust what is happening. American's don't want to believe it though.

[Vertical-24]

Yes. And Kobe and Duncan looked done. Seriously. Anyone is naive if they don't think they are on something

When did Kobe ever look "done"? The past two years he averaged 25 5 5 (2011) and 28 5 5 (2012) respectively. 2011 he put up his career averages while playing on one knee and little to no formal team practices. The year before that? Champion. Year before that? Champion. Done? Maybe Duncan but Kobe has proven people wrong time and time again and has kept sheep like you making excuses.

[SacJB Shady]

When did Kobe ever look "done"? The past two years he averaged 25 5 5 (2011) and 28 5 5 (2012) respectively. 2011 he put up his career averages while playing on one knee and little to no formal team practices. The year before that? Champion. Year before that? Champion. Done? Maybe Duncan but Kobe has proven people wrong time and time again and has kept sheep like you making excuses.



But what's your reasoning for him not on roids?

[KenneBell]

But what's your reasoning for him not on roids?
What's your reason for it?

Until there's any proof, its all conjecture.

I do think he benefitted from the procedure he had done on his ankle and knee.

I could easily say that MJ and Malone were juicing in '98. Malone was putting up 27/10/4 on 60% TS playing 37mpg. Jordan was putting up 29/6/4 playing 39mpg.

Were they playing too well for being 34? Should they have been that good when guys like Barkley and Hakeem were falling off a cliff?

Should we cast doubt on any achievement in the modern NBA?

Nah.

[Shep]

11/13/12 versus San Antonio (primarily defended by Leonard)
28 points
4 rebounds
8 assists
63% FG


1/11/13 versus OKC (primarily defended by Selfalosha)
21 points
9 rebounds
14 assists
67% FG


1/23/13 versus Memphis (primarily defended by Tony Allen)
29 points
3 rebounds
3 assists
48% FG


2/10/13 versus Miami (primarily defended by D. Wade & Lebron James)
28 points
6 rebounds
9 assists
58% FG


I have a severe distaste for Kobe (and Lebron) stans on this site, but I have an equally malevolent perception of you posters who waste our time reading your attempts at demeaning those same players.

I posted that information so you could effectively take Kobe's ******* out your mouth and dismantle your "witty" charade. Kobe does have some awful shooting nights (coupled with sometimes awful decision making), but to prance around trying to perpetuate this notion that he can only have sensational performances against below mediocre teams and defenders is ignorant, and quite simply the measuring stick of your intellectual competence.

I suppose OKC, Miami, San Antonio, and Memphis aren't the 4 top teams in the NBA right now and all season, but rather bottom feeders in their conference? I suppose Selfalosha, Lebron, Wade, Leonard, and Tony Allen aren't some of the best perimeter defenders this league offers, but rather D-League talent that simply let Kobe do what he pleases for lack of defensive capability?

Or maybe, just maybe, you just made yourself look like a part-time employee at F U C K Boy Incorporated, and should find a better day job than trying to discredit one of the 10 greatest players to ever lace them up.

Kobe ain't Jordan. And hell, at this point at his career, Kobe's not Lebron either. But Kobe is still a Top 5 player in the NBA, somehow at 34 years of age with 17 years of mileage on his knees, and still the best SG in the NBA since 2001 (though 2009 Wade is certainly debatable, and 2011 Wade is more than debatable considering Kobe was playing on one leg for half the season). Not some scrub at the YMCA playing pick up ball.

So take your head out your ass and show some respect. And that goes for Lebron detractors as well, talking about he only has .5 rings. STFU, you all sound like toddlers. Grow the **** up.

That is all.
lol @ this bum.

firstly bryant is not a top 10 player of all-time, he is lucky to squeeze into the top 15 and is probably the most overrated player of all-time. just because he makes it to a few highlight reels because he hits some clutch shots people like ranking him with the greatest players. well, i hate to break it to you dumb shits, but here is something to ponder:

GUESS WHAT LOSERS, IF HE HAD SHOT THE BALL AT A CLIP RESEMBLING ANYWHERE NEAR 50% FOR THE ENTIRE GAME UP UNTIL THAT POINT THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR HIM TO MAKE A CLUTCH SHOT!

secondly bryant at fifth best in the nba at this point? more hilarity :roll: . he wasn't even in the 11 best players in the league last season. This season he is barely in the top 10 in his own conference :roll: .

thirdly bryant being the best sg in the nba since '01? well from '01 - '04 yes, he was the best sg in the nba. in '05 he wasn't top 2 sg, '06 wade was worlds better, '07 bryant wasn't even top 3 shooting guard :roll: , bryant was again the best from '08 - '10, and in '11 and '12 wade was again worlds better.

now that all that filth has been dealt with accordingly, i will deal with your main trash of that post that was full with pure garbage.

the season in 62 games old, and this loser wants to mention 4 games to prove a point. 4 out of 62, even bryant is more successful than that :roll: .

it has been well documented that bryant's production and shooting percentages take a hit when competing in the playoffs as a whole, but that is a story for another day. today i will just destroy you with 2012-2013 facts.

of the lakers 31 wins, only 11 have come against teams with winning records. coming off a season in which they were already boasting the second best shooting guard, and a top 3 power forward, they add the best center in the league, and a 2 x mvp point guard who was still one of the best starting point guards in the league, yet they are still .500 62 games into the season. the lakers, including both howard and nash, are struggling because bryant is too selfish to relinquish any drop off in his production to incorporate these new players in the system.

everyone pencilled in the lakers to be atop of the conference at this point in the season, yet they aren't even 8th in the west yet everyone is quick to big note bryant as soon as he has a big night against the worst team in the nba - it is sickening. like wow man, you came back against 20 points down to beat the worst team in the nba, congratulations. fact is they should never had been down 20.

the fact is in the games bryant has shot the ball over 20 times the lakers are 13-23, compared to being 18-8 in games where he shoots under 20 times.

bryant being mentioned in mvp discussions is the biggest joke of the season.

[SacJB Shady]

Doping is a legitimate issue and the NBA is dodgey.
I don't trust what is happening. American's don't want to believe it though.



Yes u r accurate

[Shogon]

Bump. Kobe bROIDant.