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hawkfan
03-07-2013, 10:51 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/richard-sherman-gets-snarky-skip-bayless-provides-marginal-234849310--nfl.html

Nice work, Richard Sherman.

willds09
03-07-2013, 10:53 PM
He iz better than skip:lol

d.bball.guy
03-07-2013, 10:55 PM
Skip is oozing with idiocy.

Peteballa
03-07-2013, 10:56 PM
I hate Skip (I don't hate him, since it seems obvious to me that he is just a TV personality, basically a professional troll, but he still annoys the shit out of me), but what Sherman said made him out to be a total dick (Sherman).

#number6ix#
03-07-2013, 11:04 PM
Damn dats that ether... I wish lebron would go on first take and do the same thing

MMM
03-07-2013, 11:09 PM
damn that is some cold blooded stuff

New World Order
03-07-2013, 11:10 PM
I have no horses in this race. However, seeing Skip Bayless uncomfortable and seemingly stunned/confused shows that if somebody shows a similar level of disrespect he hands out on a regular basis, he'll freeze up. Get nasty with Skip and he doesn't like it. Maybe he'll change now that he's on the other end of this for a change.

TylerOO
03-07-2013, 11:12 PM
I think the whole "Im better at life than you" thing was kinda ****ed up :lol

But he is right about everything else.

Jailblazers7
03-07-2013, 11:12 PM
I have no horses in this race. However, seeing Skip Bayless uncomfortable and seemingly stunned/confused shows that if somebody shows a similar level of disrespect he hands out on a regular basis, he'll freeze up. Get nasty with Skip and he doesn't like it. Maybe he'll change now that he's on the other end of this for a change.

Yeah, that was awkward as shit and Sherman acted like an asshole but Skip deserves it for all the shit he has pulled in the past. I still think Bosh should have got in his face when he was on the show for calling him Bosh Spice.

Djahjaga
03-07-2013, 11:13 PM
"...I'm better at life than you."

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Jesus Christ he f*cking obliterated him.

Euroleague
03-07-2013, 11:24 PM
Sherman showing all the classic traits of narcissistic psychopathy....

9512
03-07-2013, 11:25 PM
From watching the show 1st take with SAS, it seems the director tells both to pick one side of the story and play devil's advocate to each other

since SAS seems somewhat more "alpha" than Skip and gets to defend the point he can defend, Skip is stuck having to defend a side he is not entirely comfortable or ready to defend.

He sounds like an idiot when he does it. And a rude one at that.

If it's not that, then he has no idea what he is talking about.

Jolokia
03-07-2013, 11:25 PM
Taking Skip way too seriously. Skip won. He got under Sherman's skin. Dick Sheman mad. :roll:

tmacattack33
03-07-2013, 11:26 PM
Eh, Sheridan was talking smack but not really making any good points. He actually didn't even attack anything specific about Skip...basically all he said was "fukk you, i'm better at you...you haven't accomplished as much as me in life".







If you want to watch a real ether, watch Mark Cuban's ether of Skip.

AngelEyes
03-07-2013, 11:27 PM
From watching the show 1st take with SAS, it seems the director tells both to pick one side of the story and since SAS seems somewhat more "alpha" than Skip, Skip is stuck having to defend a side he is not entirely comfortable or ready to defend.

If it's not that, then he's an idiotic ahole most of the time.

Absolutely, the debates are contrived.

RoundMoundOfReb
03-07-2013, 11:27 PM
Sherman showing all the classic traits of narcissistic psychopathy....
You got unbanned in 1 day after spamming 30 threads yesterday... lmao unbelievable.

TylerOO
03-07-2013, 11:29 PM
From watching the show 1st take with SAS, it seems the director tells both to pick one side of the story and play devil's advocate to each other

since SAS seems somewhat more "alpha" than Skip and gets to defend the point he can defend, Skip is stuck having to defend a side he is not entirely comfortable or ready to defend.

He sounds like an idiot when he does it. And a rude one at that.

If it's not that, then he has no idea what he is talking about.

Also remember, SAS always wants to be every athletes BFF. "Thats my brother" "A dear, dear friend"

Skip has to be controversial otherwise it would be a dick sucking fest.

Euroleague
03-07-2013, 11:33 PM
Richard Sherman was on point in everything he said. Not only is he obviously a better athlete, he has also had a superior education.

Stanford > Vanderbilt.

Sherman sounded borderline retarded.

"What is your proof?" "You don't have any facts." "I'm the bestest ever and it's a fact, blah blah blah............

The guy sounded like a complete psycho. He actually seemed to think him telling people he's "the bestest" is a "fact" and "being smart" and someone else saying "no you are not the bestest" is "a lie and being pompous".

Dude sounded more delusional than TO and Ocho Cinco.

Derka
03-07-2013, 11:33 PM
Funny thing: Skip's brother Rick...couldn't be more the polar opposite of his douchey, blowhard brother.

Soft-spoken, incredibly funny and possibly one of the best American purveyors of Mexican-inspired cuisine in the country. Rick Bayless > Skip Bayless

Whoah10115
03-07-2013, 11:34 PM
He called him a cretin?


:roll:

The Big Skinny
03-07-2013, 11:36 PM
"I am better at life than you"

That Just proves his inferiority complex. He doesn't know how to handle criticism so he goes on the attack. The fact he got all hot n bothered from skip bayless of all people shows his nubbiness. He got shit on Roddy White in the playoffs and got punched in the face by Trent silverback Williams. So scared to respond to his questions regarding revis haha.

STATUTORY
03-07-2013, 11:38 PM
Sherman sounded like he was on the verge of tears

steve franchise
03-07-2013, 11:39 PM
He didn't "rip" anyone. I don't know the guy but he sure came off as an asshole with an inferiority complex. LOL Sherman got so defensive.

Very entertaining video though.

brandonislegend
03-07-2013, 11:40 PM
Sherman sounds like an insecure little bitch, he didn't rip anyone but himself.

InspiredLebowski
03-07-2013, 11:46 PM
When you're the third in a trio with Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith and you're the one that comes off like a douchebag that's pretty bad.

Euroleague
03-07-2013, 11:48 PM
"I'm one of the top 22 in the world at what I do."

"I don't think you are in the top 22 at anything."

"OK, that's debatable."

:roll:

Vragrant
03-07-2013, 11:49 PM
You can clearly see how emotional Sherman was. He sounded sounded angry and insecure. Did not even attempt to answer Bayless' questions.

"Im better at life than you". How old is he 24 or 14?

I guarantee Skip is not losing sleep over this.

Euroleague
03-07-2013, 11:49 PM
When you're the third in a trio with Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith and you're the one that comes off like a douchebag that's pretty bad.

I was about to say....Screaming A.sshole Smith didn't even say anything. Takes a whole new level of douche baggery to shut up that loud mouthed clown.

Smith was just like, "what the **** do I even say?"

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 12:07 AM
I'm confused...Skip is way more successful in his field and is more famous.

HAzE024
03-08-2013, 12:08 AM
Sherman sounded borderline retarded.

"What is your proof?" "You don't have any facts." "I'm the bestest ever and it's a fact, blah blah blah............

The guy sounded like a complete psycho. He actually seemed to think him telling people he's "the bestest" is a "fact" and "being smart" and someone else saying "no you are not the bestest" is "a lie and being pompous".

Dude sounded more delusional than TO and Ocho Cinco.


Euroleague is 100% right. Sherman talks about backing things up with facts right after going on a rant of name-calling and his best impression of what he thinks someone well-spoken might sound like :oldlol:


Wouldn't it be funny if Euroleague was actually very sane and well-informed when discussing anything other than FIBA/NBA basketball?

Heavincent
03-08-2013, 12:16 AM
I'm confused...Skip is way more successful in his field and is more famous.

:roll:

Sherman is widely regarded as a the 2nd best CB behind Revis and one of the best defensive players overall. Skip is a laughing stock in the sports world and barely anyone respects his opinions.

But there's no way on God's green earth that Sherman is better than Revis.

Euroleague
03-08-2013, 12:18 AM
:roll:

Sherman is widely regarded as a the 2nd best CB behind Revis and one of the best defensive players overall. Skip is a laughing stock in the sports world and barely anyone respects his opinions.

But there's no way on God's green earth that Sherman is better than Revis.

I do think Skip is way more famous (maybe infamous). How many people even know who Sherman is at all? Millions of people know who Bayless is and would recognize him right off if they saw him.

TheBigVeto
03-08-2013, 12:19 AM
Sherman showing all the classic traits of narcissistic psychopathy....

This.

Qwyjibo
03-08-2013, 12:34 AM
Did they cut out the part where Sherman said that his dad could beat up Skip's dad?

Sherman came off looking like an idiot.

boozehound
03-08-2013, 12:38 AM
I have no horses in this race. However, seeing Skip Bayless uncomfortable and seemingly stunned/confused shows that if somebody shows a similar level of disrespect he hands out on a regular basis, he'll freeze up. Get nasty with Skip and he doesn't like it. Maybe he'll change now that he's on the other end of this for a change.
this is my view. sherman may have been an asshole, but skip is a disrespectful asshole everyday. **** that douche

ClutchOver9000
03-08-2013, 12:38 AM
Skip is a blowhard but I'm sorry Sherman came off as an arrogant dick.

It was relatively unprovoked, and he sounded quite insecure. Then again, I'm not a fan of the guy in the first place, he's a good player but the drivel he routinely spouts overshadows his skills on the football field.

And BTW, Revis is 2x the player Sherman is and I'm not a Jets fan.

TheNaturalWR
03-08-2013, 12:46 AM
Skip won, he made Sherman look like a clown. I hate Skip Bayless but Richard Sherman just made himself look like an arrogant, egotistical, prick.

boozehound
03-08-2013, 12:52 AM
Skip is a blowhard but I'm sorry Sherman came off as an arrogant dick.

It was relatively unprovoked, and he sounded quite insecure. Then again, I'm not a fan of the guy in the first place, he's a good player but the drivel he routinely spouts overshadows his skills on the football field.

And BTW, Revis is 2x the player Sherman is and I'm not a Jets fan.
clearly you havent listened to skip over the past 8 months. he has definitely said some disparaging shit about sherman. It may seem out of context, but skip is a hater (of sherman, among others) and has completely dismissed his accomplishments. I agree it was in poor form and seems somewhat insecure, but I dont think it was so far out there. skips a douche and had it coming.


And, for those saying millions would recognize him? WTF? I doubt I would recognize him in an airport.

Euroleague
03-08-2013, 12:54 AM
clearly you havent listened to skip over the past 8 months. he has definitely said some disparaging shit about sherman. It may seem out of context, but skip is a hater (of sherman, among others) and has completely dismissed his accomplishments. I agree it was in poor form and seems somewhat insecure, but I dont think it was so far out there. skips a douche and had it coming.


And, for those saying millions would recognize him? WTF? I doubt I would recognize him in an airport.

Lots of people are watching that show. They know Skip.

HorryIsMyMVP
03-08-2013, 01:09 AM
Hey now I know who Richard Sherman is :oldlol:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-08-2013, 01:10 AM
Yeah, Sherman didn't "rip" anything. What a ****ing clown. :oldlol:

STATUTORY
03-08-2013, 01:25 AM
Yeah, Sherman didn't "rip" anything. What a ****ing clown. :oldlol:
ripped a tissue to dry them tears, dude's voice was breaking up :lol

HorryIsMyMVP
03-08-2013, 01:31 AM
ripped a tissue to dry them tears, dude's voice was breaking up :lol
Well Sherman you were trash talking Darrell Revis...what do you have to say about that? Do you think you are better then Revis? Responds with well I'm a better corner then you :cry:

Dro
03-08-2013, 01:31 AM
I do think Skip is way more famous (maybe infamous). How many people even know who Sherman is at all? Millions of people know who Bayless is and would recognize him right off if they saw him.
This.......Hell, I love the NFL and had to think twice about who Richard Sherman was...I thought he was the host of a television show or some sh*t at first until I saw dudes talking about how good of a defensive player he was. Then I said "Oh, THAT guy, yeah I know who he is".
:lol

kNicKz
03-08-2013, 01:33 AM
Taking Skip way too seriously. Skip won. He got under Sherman's skin. Dick Sheman mad. :roll:

This. The fact that he went off on him is embarrassing

Rameek
03-08-2013, 01:34 AM
Has anyone blatantly attacked Skip like that live?

guy
03-08-2013, 01:41 AM
Has anyone blatantly attacked Skip like that live?



This was weak. But about a year ago, Jalen Rose ripped the shit out of him to the point that Skip randomly tried to pull a "I had a rough childhood" card.

HorryIsMyMVP
03-08-2013, 01:45 AM
This was weak. But about a year ago, Jalen Rose ripped the shit out of him to the point that Skip randomly tried to pull a "I had a rough childhood" card.
Skip feeds off of being attacked. He likes it. He does very little work gets paid a shit load of money. He has it made.

ihoopallday
03-08-2013, 01:46 AM
Gotta give Skip credit. He actually handled himself well in that situation. Sherman just came off as an asshole.

Btw, what Jalen Rose did to Skip. Now that was ripping him to shreds. "Water Pistol Pete Junior" :roll: :roll: :roll:

guy
03-08-2013, 01:49 AM
Gotta give Skip credit. He actually handled himself well in that situation. Sherman just came off as an asshole.

Btw, what Jalen Rose did to Skip. Now that was ripping him to shreds. "Water Pistol Pete Junior" :roll: :roll: :roll:

With Jalen, Skip clearly came off as someone that could dish criticism even off the littlest details, but couldn't take it back.

kNicKz
03-08-2013, 02:05 AM
He does very little work gets paid a shit load of money. He has it made.

True. You can tell that he doesn't even watch half of the games he talks about

ihoopallday
03-08-2013, 02:11 AM
With Jalen, Skip clearly came off as someone that could dish criticism even off the littlest details, but couldn't take it back.

True that.

Reverend Hoops
03-08-2013, 02:25 AM
"You said im not even in the same class"

Skip: "You're not" :roll: :roll: :roll:

:applause: Skip won

PP34Deuce
03-08-2013, 02:30 AM
With Jalen, Skip clearly came off as someone that could dish criticism even off the littlest details, but couldn't take it back.


Jalen is vicious. I remember their altercation. Jalen went for the jugular and attacked Skips rep more so than Sherman.

Sherman sounded like a baby.

The_Yearning
03-08-2013, 02:51 AM
Are you guys serious right now? Richard sounded shook and sounded like he got his feelings hurt. Sounds like he is about to cry in any minute in this interview. Get this dude a tissue.

teddytwelvetoes
03-08-2013, 07:13 AM
Taking Skip way too seriously. Skip won. He got under Sherman's skin. Dick Sheman mad. :roll:lol stop it he was calm as hell :facepalm handled Skip perfectly

teddytwelvetoes
03-08-2013, 07:15 AM
With Jalen, Skip clearly came off as someone that could dish criticism even off the littlest details, but couldn't take it back.lol I remember Skip shutting the show down and declaring it a national emergency when Jalen pulled out his high school stats :oldlol: so much butthurt

R.I.P.
03-08-2013, 08:27 AM
I'm confused...Skip is way more successful in his field and is more famous.

LOL that depends on the definition.

Is Skip one of the 22 best journailsts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best sports journalists in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best TV sports analysts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best pro sports trolls in the world? Probably.

raid09
03-08-2013, 08:44 AM
Sherman came off looking like he was shouting insults at recess.

Bayless came off looking like a sports journalist.

Who ripped who to shreds? This whole "chip on the shoulder" thing used to be funny - now he just seems like a gigantic douche.

All Net
03-08-2013, 08:48 AM
:cheers:

SilkkTheShocker
03-08-2013, 09:28 AM
Sherman sounded like he was holding back teats the whole time

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 10:47 AM
LOL that depends on the definition.

Is Skip one of the 22 best journailsts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best sports journalists in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best TV sports analysts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best pro sports trolls in the world? Probably.

Is thst guy one of the 22 best athletes?
Never even heard of the guy. He wil likely become even less relevant. Skip on the other hand has remained relevant for quite some time and has one of the most sought after jobs in this country. I'd rather do Skips job than 99.99% of jobs including NFL player.

Real Men Wear Green
03-08-2013, 11:07 AM
Is thst guy one of the 22 best athletes?
Never even heard of the guy. He wil likely become even less relevant. Skip on the other hand has remained relevant for quite some time and has one of the most sought after jobs in this country. I'd rather do Skips job than 99.99% of jobs including NFL player.
I'd much rather be an NFL player, and any talking head that says he'd rather talk about football than play in the NFL is either lying or just doesn't like football. A statement which I bet Bayless himself would agree to if he was being honest. Sure, they may be better off behind a desk, you don't want to wreck a knee or get a concussion, but who among us watching the game doesn't want to just grab a helmet and play?

That said, Sherman did himself no favors in that interview. Bayless talks a lot of shit and when one of his targets chooses to shoot back it's fair. But if you're going to do that be like Cuban or Rose, who had some real firepower to level at Bayless, Rose having his HS bball stats and Cuban with real knowledge of how the Mavs stopped James two years ago. Sherman's whole "I'm better than you" schtick was childish and irrelevant. You're an NFL corner, of course you're a better athlete than Skip Bayless. You're also a better athlete than 99.999% of the people that watch you at home on TV. It may not be said by anyone but a lot of people, at least subconsciously, will hear him say that and think, "this guy is saying he's better than us just because he's in the NFL." Not going to win anyone over to your side if you create this impression.

It's also a bit ignorant. He's never thought that deeply about what it means to be "better at life" than another person if he thinks all it takes is to be an All-Pro corner. What does he know about Bayless private life, family life, charitable work, finances, etc.? I'm not saying that Bayless has a wonderful life off-screen, I just don't know either way and neither does Sherman. He was just repeating that weird "better at life" claim with nothing to say about Bayless to back it up. If you're going to make it personal, shouldn't you have a real personal attack?

He managed to make it ugly without saying anything relevant. Really, it was a terrible interview.

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 11:16 AM
I'd much rather be an NFL player, and any talking head that says he'd rather talk about football than play in the NFL is either lying or just doesn't like football. A statement which I bet Bayless himself would agree to if he was being honest. Sure, they may be better off behind a desk, you don't want to wreck a knee or get a concussion, but who among us watching the game doesn't want to just grab a helmet and play?

That said, Sherman did himself no favors in that interview. Bayless talks a lot of shit and when one of his targets chooses to shoot back it's fair. But if you're going to do that be like Cuban or Rose, who had some real firepower to level at Bayless, Rose having his HS bball stats and Cuban with real knowledge of how the Mavs stopped James two years ago. Sherman's whole "I'm better than you" schtick was childish and irrelevant. You're an NFL corner, of course you're a better athlete than Skip Bayless. You're also a better athlete than 99.999% of the people that watch you at home on TV. It may not be said by anyone but a lot of people, at least subconsciously, will hear him say that and think, "this guy is saying he's better than us just because he's in the NFL." Not going to win anyone over to your side if you create this impression.

It's also a bit ignorant. He's never thought that deeply about what it means to be "better at life" than another person if he thinks all it takes is to be an All-Pro corner. What does he know about Bayless private life, family life, charitable work, finances, etc.? I'm not saying that Bayless has a wonderful life off-screen, I just don't know either way and neither does Sherman. He was just repeating that weird "better at life" claim with nothing to say about Bayless to back it up. If you're going to make it personal, shouldn't you have a real personal attack?

He managed to make it ugly without saying anything relevant. Really, it was a terrible interview.

I don't like football. It would be different if it were bball or soccer. With that said, he has one of the nost sought after jobs in the world.

I didn't even watch it bc I don't even know who this is...that comment seemed bafoonish tho.

L8krH8tr
03-08-2013, 11:23 AM
I'm better at you in life sounded like his jimmies were rustled...

He should of just dissed him the old fashioned way saying you don't know what its like to actually play the game. Your opinions don't mean crap to me

InfiniteBaskets
03-08-2013, 11:24 AM
Is thst guy one of the 22 best athletes?
Never even heard of the guy. He wil likely become even less relevant. Skip on the other hand has remained relevant for quite some time and has one of the most sought after jobs in this country. I'd rather do Skips job than 99.99% of jobs including NFL player.

I second RMWG. As an all-pro corner you're getting paid probably 10x as much as whatever ESPN happens to be paying Skip AFTER you're rookie contract. You're also not getting hate mail and possibly even death threats by crazy fans because every other word coming out of your mouth is a criticism or a mockery of a pro athlete. Not everyone wants to be relevant.

As the NFL player you get to retire even after just two contract signings. Not saying Skip at this stage in his life wouldn't be able to retire, but he would not be able to do so nearly as comfortably as Sherman.

STATUTORY
03-08-2013, 11:24 AM
Sherman sounded like he was holding back teats the whole time
real talk. you could see his nostrils flaring and voice breaking. dude was gotten to, jimmies rustled.

SilkkTheShocker
03-08-2013, 11:29 AM
real talk. you could see his nostrils flaring and voice breaking. dude was gotten to, jimmies rustled.

This. And I don't care for Skip at all. But he won that battle. Jalen ripped Skip apart. Sherman made himself look like a b.itch.

Real Men Wear Green
03-08-2013, 11:33 AM
I second RMWG. As an all-pro corner you're getting paid probably 10x as much as whatever ESPN happens to be paying Skip AFTER you're rookie contract. You're also not getting hate mail and possibly even death threats by crazy fans because every other word coming out of your mouth is a criticism or a mockery of a pro athlete. Not everyone wants to be relevant.

As the NFL player you get to retire even after just two contract signings. Not saying Skip at this stage in his life wouldn't be able to retire, but he would not be able to do so nearly as comfortably as Sherman.
The funny thing here is that I will now partially disagree with you agreeing with me. It's almost always due to foolish decisions but we hear about ex-pros going broke all the time. Bayless has been able to make good money past the young years when so many young men are just blowing it like these unfortunate pros we hear about and now entering old age. Meanwhile Sherman is still on his rookie deal. So Bayless almost certainly has more money than Sherman. But to be fair, I don't know whether or not Sherman lives the bling lifestyle that creates Antoine Walker stories. He could certainly be setfor life one day.

InfiniteBaskets
03-08-2013, 11:41 AM
The funny thing here is that I will now partially disagree with you agreeing with me. It's almost always due to foolish decisions but we hear about ex-pros going broke all the time. Bayless has been able to make good money past the young years when so many young men are just blowing it like these unfortunate pros we hear about and now entering old age. Meanwhile Sherman is still on his rookie deal. So Bayless almost certainly has more money than Sherman. But to be fair, I don't know whether or not Sherman lives the bling lifestyle that creates Antoine Walker stories. He could certainly be setfor life one day.

Fair point, but I'm talking in context of who's shoes I'd rather step into. I don't know how Sherman nor Bayless spend their money, or live their lives, but I know how I live and my own spending habits.

Basically out of a choice of:

A: Get blessed with athletic talent and the body of an all-pro cornerback on his rookie contract at the age of 24 and work my butt off for the next 10 years or so - retire at 34. Personally for me, I'd probably use my money to start a business in something I feel passionate about, then host several charities a year to build my brand.


B: Make an income that's well above your average US employee - yet still be at the mercy of an employer. Have to live near Bristol, CT (I've lived in CT before, it's not very fun). Have to wake up every day and be on time for work. Have to adopt a fake TV adversarial persona and diss humans that I've never met before in my life so that I can sell sensationalism and increase viewership.

And the thing is, if you put me in Skip's shoes, I would like to tone it down but ESPN would probably restrict me from being too objective otherwise my show wouldn't sell.

Either way, I'd be financially set and neither one's job is something to scoff at.

Rameek
03-08-2013, 11:59 AM
I forgot about the Jalen Rose.


LOL that depends on the definition.

Is Skip one of the 22 best journailsts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best sports journalists in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best TV sports analysts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best pro sports trolls in the world? Probably.

Sherman isnt the best anything in the world either that makes no sense.

Jolokia
03-08-2013, 12:09 PM
Whatever Skip does doesn't warrant any kind of personal attacks. Sherman is clearly butthurt for the fact that Skip doesn't classify Sherman into Revis' league. To be honest, his stats are there, but he's also clearly on a great defense (mentioned by Skip only to be ignored by Sherman). Without giving some credit to his teammates, he goes on talking about his 2 years worth of stats. Dude isn't even a top 22 corner of all time and he's talking about his greatness? Put in the body of work and then talk your trash. Skip doesn't have to be top 22 anything because he has it made. Bayless talks out of his ass and gets paid because of people like Sherman who are getting butthurt. Skip would drink those tears of his as holy water and piss that shit back onto Sherman's insecure face. I mean no disrespect to Sherman but that guy has got to let it go and be a pro on and off the field. He aint getting no big time promotions acting like that. He's not intimidating anybody which is a fact!

Real Men Wear Green
03-08-2013, 12:13 PM
Skip would drink those tears of his as holy water and piss that shit back onto Sherman's insecure face. *insert drumroll* I mean no disrespect to Sherman
hee hee hee

GOBB
03-08-2013, 12:26 PM
Skip personally attacks athletes so who are you to say he doesn't warrant personal insults back? That's stupid.

Skip the same guy who after Bosh respectfully said he doesn't like the Bosh Spice nickname and he takes pride in his family's name. Skip refused to stop calling it it to his FACE. Which was disrespectful as hell. He warranted getting choked but Bosh kept his cools and idiots like yourself enjoy the Bosh Spice nickname.

Sherman was too emotional to attack Skip like he should have. Made himself look ridiculous. Neither side looked good here. Made me cringe.

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 12:30 PM
Skip personally attacks athletes so who are you to say he doesn't warrant personal insults back? That's stupid.

Skip the same guy who after Bosh respectfully said he doesn't like the Bosh Spice nickname and he takes pride in his family's name. Skip refused to stop calling it it to his FACE. Which was disrespectful as hell. He warranted getting choked but Bosh kept his cools and idiots like yourself enjoy the Bosh Spice nickname.

Sherman was too emotional to attack Skip like he should have. Made himself look ridiculous. Neither side looked good here. Made me cringe.
I don't understand why people don't like Skip. Guy does his job and he does it well. Dont hate the player hate the game.

clayton
03-08-2013, 12:32 PM
Skip: Trolled the shit outta him. Success!

Jolokia
03-08-2013, 12:38 PM
Skip personally attacks athletes so who are you to say he doesn't warrant personal insults back? That's stupid.

Skip the same guy who after Bosh respectfully said he doesn't like the Bosh Spice nickname and he takes pride in his family's name. Skip refused to stop calling it it to his FACE. Which was disrespectful as hell. He warranted getting choked but Bosh kept his cools and idiots like yourself enjoy the Bosh Spice nickname.

Sherman was too emotional to attack Skip like he should have. Made himself look ridiculous. Neither side looked good here. Made me cringe.
I remember that incident and he said he respected Bosh's perspective on his family name but as far as I can remember, he stopped calling Bosh that after the show even though he said he'd continue. Skip obviously isn't making fun of the name itself or anyone of the family so I have no problem with that. He's making fun of Bosh's soft game. I know Bosh gets that.

STATUTORY
03-08-2013, 12:40 PM
I don't understand why people don't like Skip. Guy does his job and he does it well. Dont hate the player hate the game.
the only thing that bothers me about him is when he gets offended that the athlete is going personal on him. When jalen rose called him water pistol pete all the sudden it's not funny any more. If he can take it just as he dishes it then I would enjoy him much more.

boozehound
03-08-2013, 12:57 PM
Sherman came off looking like he was shouting insults at recess.

Bayless came off looking like a sports journalist.

Who ripped who to shreds? This whole "chip on the shoulder" thing used to be funny - now he just seems like a gigantic douche.
dont insult journalists like that. They actually do research and write stories. Skip is a professional troll.

NumberSix
03-08-2013, 12:58 PM
It's amazing how next-to-nothing Skip knows about sports. Dude is a shock-jock.

Bobcats2013
03-08-2013, 01:00 PM
I really don't like Sherman representing the franchise I've loved since I was a child. He is the definition of a bully and I can't believe Rich was stupid enough to fall for this troll. :facepalm He's a hell of a player but man...

NumberSix
03-08-2013, 01:02 PM
Skip has had this coming. If it was any other sports media personality, I would have said Richard was out of line. Since it's Skip, it's completely appropriate.

GOBB
03-08-2013, 01:32 PM
I don't understand why people don't like Skip. Guy does his job and he does it well. Dont hate the player hate the game.

My only issue with Skip is he can't handle it when it comes back to him. He gets personal and soon as the players responds back personally (and stings him) he calls foul. He all of a sudden wants to be a professional courteous etc etc etc

I haven't seen the response from Skip over what Sherman did but I bet he tried to play Mr Maturity. I don't like being threatened or questioned about his career.

ZaaaaaH
03-08-2013, 01:34 PM
Anyone who thinks Sherman won this debate are 12 year old boys.


Sherman was angry he was in verge of shedding a tear.

Its game over when the other person gets personal in a debate looking like you want to hit the dude.

tpols
03-08-2013, 01:37 PM
I don't understand why people don't like Skip. Guy does his job and he does it well. Dont hate the player hate the game.
This. Skip is just doing his job.. and people take the bait 1000%

NoGunzJustSkillz
03-08-2013, 01:40 PM
I think the whole "Im better at life than you" thing was kinda ****ed up :lol

But he is right about everything else.
Watch this guy go out and break his leg the first preseason game of 2013 and never be the same.

tpols
03-08-2013, 01:40 PM
My only issue with Skip is he can't handle it when it comes back to him. He gets personal and soon as the players responds back personally (and stings him) he calls foul. He all of a sudden wants to be a professional courteous etc etc etc

I haven't seen the response from Skip over what Sherman did but I bet he tried to play Mr Maturity. I don't like being threatened or questioned about his career.
Did Skip ever get personal though? With Sherman he talked football.. stays on football. Never brought it outside from the clips I've seen. Sherman went outside football. And Skip didnt even call foul.. completely maintianed composure despite the outside of the lines attack.

Rysio
03-08-2013, 01:50 PM
lmao this is what skip wants you to do. to take it personal and when you take it personal you already lost. skip :applause: :bowdown:

guy
03-08-2013, 02:10 PM
Skip personally attacks athletes so who are you to say he doesn't warrant personal insults back? That's stupid.

Skip the same guy who after Bosh respectfully said he doesn't like the Bosh Spice nickname and he takes pride in his family's name. Skip refused to stop calling it it to his FACE. Which was disrespectful as hell. He warranted getting choked but Bosh kept his cools and idiots like yourself enjoy the Bosh Spice nickname.

Sherman was too emotional to attack Skip like he should have. Made himself look ridiculous. Neither side looked good here. Made me cringe.

I remember that. I could not believe Skip could be that disrespectful to someone.

guy
03-08-2013, 02:15 PM
I remember that incident and he said he respected Bosh's perspective on his family name but as far as I can remember, he stopped calling Bosh that after the show even though he said he'd continue. Skip obviously isn't making fun of the name itself or anyone of the family so I have no problem with that. He's making fun of Bosh's soft game. I know Bosh gets that.

Skip definitely said he would keep calling him that until Bosh plays better and tougher. Then I remember during last season he said he thought Bosh was doing that so he would stop calling him that, even though I didn't really think Bosh was playing much different then the previous season.

To be fair to Skip though, I wasn't really buying Bosh's reason why he was asking Skip to stop calling him that. It sounded more like Bosh was just looking for a legit reason that would guilt Skip to stop doing that. I don't know though.

guy
03-08-2013, 02:17 PM
Did Skip ever get personal though? With Sherman he talked football.. stays on football. Never brought it outside from the clips I've seen. Sherman went outside football. And Skip didnt even call foul.. completely maintianed composure despite the outside of the lines attack.

I don't know if he ever got personal with Sherman, but I'm assuming Sherman went at him like that just cause Skip is known to get personal.

guy
03-08-2013, 02:21 PM
My only issue with Skip is he can't handle it when it comes back to him. He gets personal and soon as the players responds back personally (and stings him) he calls foul. He all of a sudden wants to be a professional courteous etc etc etc

I haven't seen the response from Skip over what Sherman did but I bet he tried to play Mr Maturity. I don't like being threatened or questioned about his career.

I like watching Skip and he makes good points, but I lost a ton of respect for him after the Jalen Rose episode. To explain his water pistol pete jr high school stats, he went on this long ass spiel about how his HS coach held him back, as if people should understand and feel sorry for him, when this dude goes off on people every day not knowing anywhere near those type of details.

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 02:31 PM
I like watching Skip and he makes good points, but I lost a ton of respect for him after the Jalen Rose episode. To explain his water pistol pete jr high school stats, he went on this long ass spiel about how his HS coach held him back, as if people should understand and feel sorry for him, when this dude goes off on people every day not knowing anywhere near those type of details.
Yea..plus its bs. Unlesd your st a bball factory you should get buckets in hs or at least play a ton. Guy was ass.

STATUTORY
03-08-2013, 02:33 PM
I like watching Skip and he makes good points, but I lost a ton of respect for him after the Jalen Rose episode. To explain his water pistol pete jr high school stats, he went on this long ass spiel about how his HS coach held him back, as if people should understand and feel sorry for him, when this dude goes off on people every day not knowing anywhere near those type of details.

it was hilarious particularly because Skip's always hard on "me first" athletes who are insubordinate to the coach.

then turns out he was the AI of his HS team, according to him anyways :oldlol:

Euroleague
03-08-2013, 02:45 PM
LOL that depends on the definition.

Is Skip one of the 22 best journailsts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best sports journalists in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best TV sports analysts in the world? Hell No.
Is Skip one of the 22 best pro sports trolls in the world? Probably.

Sherman isn't one of the best 22 NFL players though.

Euroleague
03-08-2013, 02:48 PM
I second RMWG. As an all-pro corner you're getting paid probably 10x as much as whatever ESPN happens to be paying Skip AFTER you're rookie contract. You're also not getting hate mail and possibly even death threats by crazy fans because every other word coming out of your mouth is a criticism or a mockery of a pro athlete. Not everyone wants to be relevant.

As the NFL player you get to retire even after just two contract signings. Not saying Skip at this stage in his life wouldn't be able to retire, but he would not be able to do so nearly as comfortably as Sherman.

Skip is the producer of one of ESPN's biggest shows and the face of it. No way in hell is an NFL corner back making 10x more than him.

guy
03-08-2013, 02:55 PM
Yea..plus its bs. Unlesd your st a bball factory you should get buckets in hs or at least play a ton. Guy was ass.

HUH?

chosen_one6
03-08-2013, 03:23 PM
Sherman isn't one of the best 22 NFL players though.


Apparently he is, because he got voted in as an All-Pro first team in only his second season.

NoGunzJustSkillz
03-08-2013, 03:31 PM
Sherman sounds like he watches Bayless everyday. +1 Skip

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 03:40 PM
HUH?
Unless you are at a bball factory or on a great hs team there should be norhing holding you back from being a good contributor. You don't even have to be good to put up numbers in hs.

clayton
03-08-2013, 03:45 PM
Sherman is just a troll victim. U MAD BRO

Jolokia
03-08-2013, 03:58 PM
Skip definitely said he would keep calling him that until Bosh plays better and tougher. Then I remember during last season he said he thought Bosh was doing that so he would stop calling him that, even though I didn't really think Bosh was playing much different then the previous season.

To be fair to Skip though, I wasn't really buying Bosh's reason why he was asking Skip to stop calling him that. It sounded more like Bosh was just looking for a legit reason that would guilt Skip to stop doing that. I don't know though.
I mentioned that he would continue but, I don't recall Bosh being called that after he met up with Skip on the show. But then, I only tune in occasionally.

I respect Skip and Stephen A a lot even though they dish out a lot of heat. Name calling pertaining to the athlete's performance is acceptable to me. Saying someone is a scrub or garbage like Stephen A often says isn't irrational like what Jalen believes in--him pleading that Kwame isn't a scrub. Skip calling Bosh Bosh Spice or Lebron The Frozen One is true according to his own view in reference to the game(s) that was/were played. People/fans may not connect the dots like that saying Skip is a hater and all, but Skip respects the heck out of athletes and just calls it as he sees it. If you don't like what he says, come on the show and prove to him that what he says isn't true, which is difficult because it already happened and Skip saw it to call it. Bosh came on the show and admitted he should've played tougher and be more assertive. He'll just like more respect for the Bosh name and I completely agree, but then again, I don't see what's the problem with Skip calling him that as he has no intentions to ridicule Bosh's family name, but the performances itself.

Jalen Rose however has sympathy to the players because he once was on their platform. He basically says bench warmers in the NBA shouldn't be called scrubs because they are still above the average Joe. They also have passion, hard work, and dedication so someone being called scrub might take personally or whatever. Someone like Westbrook, Wade, Jordan, or whoever probably takes a lot of pride and thought into the outfits they wear. Should Jalen not comment on their outfits even though he thinks they look foolish sometimes? Would it be wrong if he did? Who cares what people think as long as the things you say are along the lines of being true or accurate and not made up and lies. A 10 million dollar player should play like a 10 million dollar player. If not, you're damn right you're going to be called out as a scrub or overpaid. But Jalen's gonna say something like Rashard Lewis earned that money and someone was willing to pay him so that means he shouldn't get blasted for playing like he did. Umm no. And all of this coming from a Jalen Rose fan in his basketball days with his smooth left stroke in Indiana.

As for Sherman, you get personal when you start talking about something outside of their profession. Richard start's talking about life and that he's better than Skip in it. Like really? If you're going to trash talk Skip, talk about how he's a terrible journalist, analyst, or reporter and have reasons for it. You can say he's not on Stephen A's level or something. Skip declares that Sherman's not in Revis' class and he finds it mind-boggling and took it personal. And Jalen bringing up Skip's high school days is the same thing. Skip is not a professional basketball player.

This is Skip's show and you gotta respect that just like if he goes to your field, he'll respect you. He already knows he can't beat you in football, basketball, baseball, etc. If he was doing something wrong, he wouldn't be on ESPN as one of the top personalities ever. People just take him the wrong way because they can't handle criticism from a public figure that will embarrass them for being ineffective. Right now, all Skip can say about Lebron is his free throws and last second shots (almost over that). Lebron has shut him up almost completely. Applauds Lebron. Why can't more people be like Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, Wade, etc and just prove people wrong.

JMT
03-08-2013, 04:01 PM
I loathe Bayless and all like him, but if people are still talking about this, he's the winner. Guy's in the business of getting publicity, and he's getting a ton of it.

BTW, what the hell is this doing in an NBA forum?

InfiniteBaskets
03-08-2013, 04:25 PM
Skip is the producer of one of ESPN's biggest shows and the face of it. No way in hell is an NFL corner back making 10x more than him.

Incorrect.

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 04:28 PM
Incorrect.
I'm literally sitting in a room with two people who make more than twice Skips salary per year. But, I'm pretty sure they would switch places.

InfiniteBaskets
03-08-2013, 04:32 PM
I'm literally sitting in a room with two people who make more than twice Skips salary per year. But, I'm pretty sure they would switch places.

Here's Skip's salary from the first source that showed up on google.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/skip-bayless-net-worth/


$500K a year. What are some benefits your coworkers would get by switching jobs with Skip Bayless? I can understand if your colleagues have to constantly pull 80+ hour work weeks, sacrifice family life etc...

AceManIII
03-08-2013, 04:33 PM
Skip is the producer of one of ESPN's biggest shows and the face of it. No way in hell is an NFL corner back making 10x more than him.

:oldlol: How much of an idiot are you? Really...

CavaliersFTW
03-08-2013, 04:38 PM
"Sherman rips Bayless to shreds", really, is that how you interpreted the outcome?

Skip won. Skip got under his skin and cracked him. Skip kept his cool the entire time. Meanwhile Sherman was stuttering, resorting to personal attacks and insults, and his voice was shaky the entire time. This is embarassing for Sherman. Skip is an entertainer, his job is to be controversial, and Sherman took it personal and looked like a fool :facepalm

Should be retitled: "Sherman gets shook by Skip Bayless; has a meltdown and looks like an idiot in front of millions"

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 04:40 PM
Here's Skip's salary from the first source that showed up on google.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/skip-bayless-net-worth/


$500K a year. What are some benefits your coworkers would get by switching jobs with Skip Bayless? I can understand if your colleagues have to constantly pull 80+ hour work weeks, sacrifice family life etc...
Most jobs suck. This one is no different.

NumberSix
03-08-2013, 04:45 PM
"Sherman rips Bayless to shreds", really, is that how you interpreted the outcome?

Skip won. Skip got under his skin and cracked him. Skip kept his cool the entire time. Meanwhile Sherman was stuttering, resorting to personal attacks and insults, and his voice was shaky the entire time. This is embarassing for Sherman. Skip is an entertainer, his job is to be controversial, and Sherman took it personal and looked like a fool :facepalm

Should be retitled: "Sherman gets shook by Skip Bayless; has a meltdown and looks like an idiot in front of millions"
Meh. Take away what you want from it. Sherman's point stands strongly though. Skip doesn't know much about sports and his opinions are almost always in direct contradiction to all available facts.

There's a difference between keeping your cool and just not having anything to say.

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 05:02 PM
Meh. Take away what you want from it. Sherman's point stands strongly though. Skip doesn't know much about sports and his opinions are almost always in direct contradiction to all available facts.

There's a difference between keeping your cool and just not having anything to say.
So he is mad at skip for doing his job? Maybe he should grow up and get some perspective...

NumberSix
03-08-2013, 05:06 PM
So he is mad at skip for doing his job? Maybe he should grow up and get some perspective...
Skip disrespects guests all the time. Why am I supposed to care when someone does it to him? :confusedshrug:

IGOTGAME
03-08-2013, 05:07 PM
Skip disrespects guests all the time. Why am I supposed to care when someone does it to him? :confusedshrug:
You aren't making sense. When have I ever asked you to care...only thing I've got out of this is sherman is immature.

imdaman99
03-08-2013, 05:19 PM
the key to life is... never let em see that they got to you. sherman clearly does not portray this. but thats his life. i would trade mine for his in a heartbeat still :lol

brandonislegend
03-08-2013, 05:41 PM
Meh. Take away what you want from it. Sherman's point stands strongly though. Skip doesn't know much about sports and his opinions are almost always in direct contradiction to all available facts.

There's a difference between keeping your cool and just not having anything to say.

:roll: Skip trolled his ass plan and simple, Sherman sounded like an insecure non educated little bitch. Looked like he was going to cry.

Euroleague
03-08-2013, 05:43 PM
Incorrect.

I was watching that shit one day, and the host of the show said Bayless is the head producer of the show.

Euroleague
03-08-2013, 05:45 PM
:oldlol: How much of an idiot are you? Really...

I think you are an idiot. Some of the ESPN people make huge salaries dumb ass. Smith and Bayless are definitely at the upper end of it.

GOBB
03-08-2013, 06:43 PM
Richard Sherman is entering the 3rd year of a 4yr $2.2mil deal.


7/29/2011: Signed a four-year, $2,222,424 contract. The deal included a $182,424 signing bonus. 2013: $555,000, 2014: $645,000, 2015: Free Agent

Not sure how much Skip makes but my guess is its around the half a million mark. He is not this bigtime bread winner for espn. But its possible that Skip may have made as much or more than Sherman because he is still on his rookie contract. He wasnt drafted first rd first pick.

His next contract will dwarf whatever Skip makes in a year by a ton.

GOBB
03-08-2013, 06:44 PM
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/08/master-vs-apprentice-richard-sherman-trolls-skip-bayless-on-live-tv/

Reading this link kind of makes sense for Sherman. Troll meets Troll.

Like I said no winners in this altercation imo

Tarik One
03-08-2013, 06:52 PM
Apparently he is, because he got voted in as an All-Pro first team in only his second season.
Ridiculous statement. There are players from OTHER positions who got snubbed who are better than Sherman. Ever thought about that?

Real Men Wear Green
03-08-2013, 07:06 PM
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/03/08/master-vs-apprentice-richard-sherman-trolls-skip-bayless-on-live-tv/

Reading this link kind of makes sense for Sherman. Troll meets Troll.

Like I said no winners in this altercation imo
It didn't make Bayless look good but it did make Sherman look bad. For a lot of people (myself included) that was the first time we heard Sherman speak. Didn't like what I got to hear, and I'm not the only one. Do you think anyone watched that interview and thought they wanted to see this guy replace Cris Carter on Countdown one day?

Plenty of time to refine his act but it just looked like he was arrogant and unlike a Primetime or Keyshawn Johnson there was no cool whatsoever.

guy
03-08-2013, 07:18 PM
I mentioned that he would continue but, I don't recall Bosh being called that after he met up with Skip on the show. But then, I only tune in occasionally.

I respect Skip and Stephen A a lot even though they dish out a lot of heat. Name calling pertaining to the athlete's performance is acceptable to me. Saying someone is a scrub or garbage like Stephen A often says isn't irrational like what Jalen believes in--him pleading that Kwame isn't a scrub. Skip calling Bosh Bosh Spice or Lebron The Frozen One is true according to his own view in reference to the game(s) that was/were played. People/fans may not connect the dots like that saying Skip is a hater and all, but Skip respects the heck out of athletes and just calls it as he sees it. If you don't like what he says, come on the show and prove to him that what he says isn't true, which is difficult because it already happened and Skip saw it to call it. Bosh came on the show and admitted he should've played tougher and be more assertive. He'll just like more respect for the Bosh name and I completely agree, but then again, I don't see what's the problem with Skip calling him that as he has no intentions to ridicule Bosh's family name, but the performances itself.

Jalen Rose however has sympathy to the players because he once was on their platform. He basically says bench warmers in the NBA shouldn't be called scrubs because they are still above the average Joe. They also have passion, hard work, and dedication so someone being called scrub might take personally or whatever. Someone like Westbrook, Wade, Jordan, or whoever probably takes a lot of pride and thought into the outfits they wear. Should Jalen not comment on their outfits even though he thinks they look foolish sometimes? Would it be wrong if he did? Who cares what people think as long as the things you say are along the lines of being true or accurate and not made up and lies. A 10 million dollar player should play like a 10 million dollar player. If not, you're damn right you're going to be called out as a scrub or overpaid. But Jalen's gonna say something like Rashard Lewis earned that money and someone was willing to pay him so that means he shouldn't get blasted for playing like he did. Umm no. And all of this coming from a Jalen Rose fan in his basketball days with his smooth left stroke in Indiana.

As for Sherman, you get personal when you start talking about something outside of their profession. Richard start's talking about life and that he's better than Skip in it. Like really? If you're going to trash talk Skip, talk about how he's a terrible journalist, analyst, or reporter and have reasons for it. You can say he's not on Stephen A's level or something. Skip declares that Sherman's not in Revis' class and he finds it mind-boggling and took it personal. And Jalen bringing up Skip's high school days is the same thing. Skip is not a professional basketball player.

This is Skip's show and you gotta respect that just like if he goes to your field, he'll respect you. He already knows he can't beat you in football, basketball, baseball, etc. If he was doing something wrong, he wouldn't be on ESPN as one of the top personalities ever. People just take him the wrong way because they can't handle criticism from a public figure that will embarrass them for being ineffective. Right now, all Skip can say about Lebron is his free throws and last second shots (almost over that). Lebron has shut him up almost completely. Applauds Lebron. Why can't more people be like Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, Wade, etc and just prove people wrong.

Jalen brought up Skip's high school days because Skip in a previous episode brought it up initially and made it seem like he was alot better then he really was and Skip referred to that as evidence to how valid his opinion was. Jalen basically exposed Skip for that. It was completely in bounds for Jalen to call Skip out on that.

I agree and disagree to an extent. I disagree because just because Skip is only criticizing someone for how they perform at their profession, it doesn't mean it can't be personal. If someone told you that you suck at your job, you won't take that personal? Its one thing to have constructive criticism, which is what most analysts provide, but its another thing to be demeaning and insult them with names for it. And by the way, some of his criticism is over someone's character. That goes beyond the profession. Calling Lebron scared, AI selfish, TO egotistical, Howard attention-seeking, Mayweather a chicken etc. is not just something peopel can just easily brush off as that just being about their profession.

What I agree with though, is I don't really think there's anything wrong with Skip doing that. Its entertainment, and these athletes are in the limelight. That comes with the territory. But at the same time, its totally acceptable to me if an athlete comes back at him and be disrespectful towards him. Because of the approach Skip takes, there's not much that an athlete can say to him, and to Stephen A to a lesser extent, that I would consider out of bounds. But I wouldn't say that its okay for an athlete to come at someone like Michael Wilbon or Tony Kornheiser like that.

keepinitreal
03-08-2013, 07:40 PM
From watching the show 1st take with SAS, it seems the director tells both to pick one side of the story and play devil's advocate to each other

since SAS seems somewhat more "alpha" than Skip and gets to defend the point he can defend, Skip is stuck having to defend a side he is not entirely comfortable or ready to defend.

He sounds like an idiot when he does it. And a rude one at that.

If it's not that, then he has no idea what he is talking about.

yep.. and Sherman took Skip WAYYYYYY too seriously. Sherman's heart was probably pounding hard when he got on live TV and starting attacking Skip. Not that I like Skip (I don't), but Sherman handled the interview the wrong way imo

Jolokia
03-08-2013, 08:44 PM
Jalen brought up Skip's high school days because Skip in a previous episode brought it up initially and made it seem like he was alot better then he really was and Skip referred to that as evidence to how valid his opinion was. Jalen basically exposed Skip for that. It was completely in bounds for Jalen to call Skip out on that.

I agree and disagree to an extent. I disagree because just because Skip is only criticizing someone for how they perform at their profession, it doesn't mean it can't be personal. If someone told you that you suck at your job, you won't take that personal? Its one thing to have constructive criticism, which is what most analysts provide, but its another thing to be demeaning and insult them with names for it. And by the way, some of his criticism is over someone's character. That goes beyond the profession. Calling Lebron scared, AI selfish, TO egotistical, Howard attention-seeking, Mayweather a chicken etc. is not just something peopel can just easily brush off as that just being about their profession.

What I agree with though, is I don't really think there's anything wrong with Skip doing that. Its entertainment, and these athletes are in the limelight. That comes with the territory. But at the same time, its totally acceptable to me if an athlete comes back at him and be disrespectful towards him. Because of the approach Skip takes, there's not much that an athlete can say to him, and to Stephen A to a lesser extent, that I would consider out of bounds. But I wouldn't say that its okay for an athlete to come at someone like Michael Wilbon or Tony Kornheiser like that.
I see can see from your angle, but to me and probably to Skip, he has a reason behind what he says. His delivery is intentionally bold and bully-like which constantly causes hatred and misinterpretation from the viewers. The point he tries to make then gets lost in the shuffle. His intent is not to disrespect anyone but to have a show. Constructive criticism is only required if you give a damn about what the person thinks and you truly care for what their future beholds. Skip don't care about either so why should you? If it bothers you so much, Mayweather, fight Pacquiao. If it bothers you so much Lebron, join the dunk contest. Or are people worried/mad because what Skip says might diminish their character and worth? If Skip is talking about you, you've already established a name or you are a nobody talking smack in the first place. It's like a lot of you are seeking for Skip's approval regarding Lebron and Westbrook and other players Skip heavily concentrate on. Let him talk because he will always have something to say because no one is perfect (Lebron is close though). He talks about Lebron's freethrows. What's wrong with that? But since it's big-time Skip, everything gets exaggerated. We don't hear about other analysts or journalists calling out people's character like being lazy, selfish, cancer, questioning work ethic/dedication/passion, or whatever. It happens everyday in life and in the professional world too. Sometimes in private and sometimes in public. Telling lies is another story. At the end of the day, if you did your thing, you wouldn't worry so much. I'm sure Skip didn't even skip a beat when Sheman was jabbering about how his life is better than Skips. Even though I learn more vocabulary words than actual sports content itself, First Take is pure entertainment. Anyone butthurt should really get it checked out.

Glide2keva
03-08-2013, 08:56 PM
This is ether? All he did was act like an ass and talk shit. He proved nothing and showed how much of a pompous, ignorant jerk he can be.

Some low ass people that could cheer for something like this.

Glide2keva
03-08-2013, 08:59 PM
I see can see from your angle, but to me and probably to Skip, he has a reason behind what he says. His delivery is intentionally bold and bully-like which constantly causes hatred and misinterpretation from the viewers. The point he tries to make then gets lost in the shuffle. His intent is not to disrespect anyone but to have a show. Constructive criticism is only required if you give a damn about what the person thinks and you truly care for what their future beholds. Skip don't care about either so why should you? If it bothers you so much, Mayweather, fight Pacquiao. If it bothers you so much Lebron, join the dunk contest. Or are people worried/mad because what Skip says might diminish their character and worth? If Skip is talking about you, you've already established a name or you are a nobody talking smack in the first place. It's like a lot of you are seeking for Skip's approval regarding Lebron and Westbrook and other players Skip heavily concentrate on. Let him talk because he will always have something to say because no one is perfect (Lebron is close though). He talks about Lebron's freethrows. What's wrong with that? But since it's big-time Skip, everything gets exaggerated. We don't hear about other analysts or journalists calling out people's character like being lazy, selfish, cancer, questioning work ethic/dedication/passion, or whatever. It happens everyday in life and in the professional world too. Sometimes in private and sometimes in public. Telling lies is another story. At the end of the day, if you did your thing, you wouldn't worry so much. I'm sure Skip didn't even skip a beat when Sherman was jabbering about how his life is better than Skips. Even though I learn more vocabulary words than actual sports content itself, First Take is pure entertainment. Anyone butthurt should really get it checked out.This. :applause:

Noyze
03-08-2013, 09:18 PM
Skip Bayless is great at his job. He's the most powerful sport media troll I know of. As long as we keep talking about it, making threads about what he says and promoting it he'll never go away. He like a Kardashian.

kshutts1
03-09-2013, 03:19 PM
I kept ignoring this thread, mainly because I hate Bayless and don't care, but my god that is funny. Sherman is one of my favorite players now.

Y2Gezee
03-09-2013, 03:47 PM
I thought it was funny. But the people that manage/run Sherman should've never let him do this.

He is an asshole, but I can dig that. However, as a professional he has to realize this isn't a barbershop and that this is a professional interview/environment. He can make all pro team (with Revis on the bench injured), but professionals are the people that make the decisions to offer contracts/endorsements vote for all pro. And behaving like a child will not make them like you.

This is where keeping it real goes wrong.

Fatstogey
03-09-2013, 03:57 PM
I hate Skip (I don't hate him, since it seems obvious to me that he is just a TV personality, basically a professional troll, but he still annoys the shit out of me), but what Sherman said made him out to be a total dick (Sherman).

Yea its fun. You love to hate him. Thats why they have him on there. And yea that was funny.

Dude pwned him. But you could tell he was nervous talking on tv like that but did pretty good to talk shit to someone who talks for a living.

CavaliersFTW
03-09-2013, 03:57 PM
I kept ignoring this thread, mainly because I hate Bayless and don't care, but my god that is funny. Sherman is one of my favorite players now.
Why? He looked like he was going to cry on national television and made a fool out of himself

MTing
03-09-2013, 04:01 PM
:oldlol: Stephen A's face when Sherman calls him egotistical and pompous. He didn't know what to do.

Rake2204
03-09-2013, 04:01 PM
I loathe Bayless and all like him, but if people are still talking about this, he's the winner. Guy's in the business of getting publicity, and he's getting a ton of it.That's the most unfortunate part to me. I am really not a fan of shows whose primary premise is not to make something worthwhile, but simply to get attention and views. I mean, I understand it, as viewership equals money. It's just a bummer when another one of those types of shows surfaces, as it has here. Integrity seems to be completely thrown out the window in these instances and we're just left one step closer to living out the plotline to Idiocracy.

Also, I didn't realize there was a topic in the NBA Forum. I posted in the Off the Court Forum last night. There's a good article on AwfulAnnouncing.com about this incident, which also included a series of texts from Bill Simmons on the exchange. Here's one:

But what bothers me about the reaction to that segment is people saying Richard Sherman "won." Nobody won. Everyone lost. Including ESPN.
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/march/bill-simmons-critique-of-first-take-exposes-espn-s-identity-crisis.html#livefyre_thread

StroShow4
03-09-2013, 04:01 PM
When you're the third in a trio with Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith and you're the one that comes off like a douchebag that's pretty bad.

Prior to watching the video I would've thought this impossible.

sommervilleCdn
03-09-2013, 04:09 PM
I'll take the good with the bad..thank u very much

here is an example, of good skip. ---> Mario Chalmers tells Skip , he had to check lebron and bosh, about their yelling at him, during games. niiice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvuna68-nRQ :bowdown:

sommervilleCdn
03-09-2013, 04:10 PM
http://basketsession.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2013/03/Mario-Chalmers-Harlem-Shake.jpg