Allen Iverson on cover of new SLAM Magazine

[Rowe]

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Some things will never change.

AI is one of them.

[tikay0]

:applause: :rockon: :banana:

AI lookin like a boss. Hopefully he still has some bread.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

allen iverson is a victim. he has been constantly scrutinized, but continues to shine. he is a mans man

[Rowe]

allen iverson is a victim. he has been constantly scrutinized, but continues to shine. he is a mans man

I think the media decided awhile ago that they were going to permanently hate him. Every news story about him is negative, even irrelevant things like what is being said in his divorce hearing. They even find a way to criticize him for turning down playing in the D-League.

[red1]

AI :pimp:

[flipogb]

hes just a victim of Stern's power trip

[LongLiveTheKing]

AI how I miss you..... :cry:

[Solid Snake]

What are you guys talking about? He REFUSED to adjust his role and play in the system his team wanted, you know, back when he WAS in the NBA?

Or did you forget that?

You guys act like he was somehow outcast for no reason, as if a player averaging 25ppg was ruthlessly quarantined out of some personal agenda.

Get a ****ing clue, as his skills changed from what they once were, he was asked to adjust. Why do you choose to forget that he outright REFUSED to come off the bench (Pistons). And then in his final stint in Philadelphia, he exited using a "saving face" strategy, in which he used some reason about his daughter being sick. Make no mistake, that's an excuse. If your daughter is sick, you NOT playing basketball is not helping her, whatever phantom illness she had, the DOCTORS would've been the ones to help her. Unless it's literally life or death (in which case you could argue he'd want to be there at her bedside for her final moments), there's no reason to stop playing basketball. But that's a moot point, since it turned out there was no verified illness or anything medically wrong with her anyway. Let's also not forget the flyers advertising some club he was gonna be at on that game night...

Iverson was great. But just like Kobe now, he's refused to adjust. Only difference is Kobe's skills are still so good that his selfish refusal to adjust to his teammates, STILL allows him to play at god-like levels. Because when your skill set converges on infinity, "diminishment" is a mortal term.

[willds09]

Well deserved:applause: except Rick Ross and tyga get them fake ass niguhs outta here :facepalm

[longtime lurker]

I think the media decided awhile ago that they were going to permanently hate him. Every news story about him is negative, even irrelevant things like what is being said in his divorce hearing. They even find a way to criticize him for turning down playing in the D-League.

You bring up an interesting point. I remember a news story about Iverson saving a man from a car wreck, but it hardly makes any news.

[luckylucy]

Iverson was great. But just like Kobe now, he's refused to adjust. Only difference is Kobe's skills are still so good that his selfish refusal to adjust to his teammates, STILL allows him to play at god-like levels. Because when your skill set converges on infinity, "diminishment" is a mortal term.

:rolleyes:

You could have had a great post if you didn

[Patrick Chewing]

:facepalm Iverson still living in the 90's apparently

[Shepseskaf]

hes just a victim of Stern's power trip
Stern was mad because he embraced AI and the hip-hop generation, then got burned by public perception.

[Real Men Wear Green]

hes just a victim of Stern's power trip
This makes no sense. He played until he was 34 and then left the Grizzlies because he didn't want to come off the bench. As he's only going to get older, what team wants to deal with a 35, 36 year-old guard that won't be satisfied with coming off the bench? This has nothing to do with Stern.

[kurple]

AI was forced out of the league. He was brilliant up to the Pistons trade, and that franchise + the league ****ed him over

you are still loved AI

i dont give a shit what the haters say. you were the NBA in the early 00's

[kurple]

why would he accept coming of the bench, behind Rodney ****ing Stuckey. Even I would take it as an insult, and i'm no future hall of famer

[Jailblazers7]

What are you guys talking about? He REFUSED to adjust his role and play in the system his team wanted, you know, back when he WAS in the NBA?

Or did you forget that?

You guys act like he was somehow outcast for no reason, as if a player averaging 25ppg was ruthlessly quarantined out of some personal agenda.

Get a ****ing clue, as his skills changed from what they once were, he was asked to adjust. Why do you choose to forget that he outright REFUSED to come off the bench (Pistons). And then in his final stint in Philadelphia, he exited using a "saving face" strategy, in which he used some reason about his daughter being sick. Make no mistake, that's an excuse. If your daughter is sick, you NOT playing basketball is not helping her, whatever phantom illness she had, the DOCTORS would've been the ones to help her. Unless it's literally life or death (in which case you could argue he'd want to be there at her bedside for her final moments), there's no reason to stop playing basketball. But that's a moot point, since it turned out there was no verified illness or anything medically wrong with her anyway. Let's also not forget the flyers advertising some club he was gonna be at on that game night...

Iverson was great. But just like Kobe now, he's refused to adjust. Only difference is Kobe's skills are still so good that his selfish refusal to adjust to his teammates, STILL allows him to play at god-like levels. Because when your skill set converges on infinity, "diminishment" is a mortal term.

Doesn't hurt that Kobe is 6'6" and AI is like 5'11". A player with AI's size and style doesn't have much room for error and isn't going to age well as a player.

[coin24]

He played well in his last stint with the 76ers..:rockon:
That last game against the lakers was:bowdown:
Shame he couldn't get it together and play in the ASG.

Also, SLAM is still around?
Who the fu*k buys magazines anymore??:confusedshrug:

[coin24]

why would he accept coming of the bench, behind Rodney ****ing Stuckey. Even I would take it as an insult, and i'm no future hall of famer

This. Stuckey:facepalm

[JellyBean]

allen iverson is a victim. he has been constantly scrutinized, but continues to shine. he is a mans man

You have got to be kidding me. Victim? Scrutinized? Continues to shine? How is he a victim? How is he being scruntinized? And where in the world does he continue to shine?

Come on, now. Iverson is no victim here. Love the dude. Loved his game on the court. But he brought this crap on by his own dang self. The dude was find and suspended multiple times in Philly for missing games, leaving practice, and skipping corporate events. But yet, some how, you say that he is a victim? :facepalm

[STATUTORY]

You have got to be kidding me. Victim? Scrutinized? Continues to shine? How is he a victim? How is he being scruntinized? And where in the world does he continue to shine?

Come on, now. Iverson is no victim here. Love the dude. Loved his game on the court. But he brought this crap on by his own dang self. The dude was find and suspended multiple times in Philly for missing games, leaving practice, and skipping corporate events. But yet, some how, you say that he is a victim? :facepalm

he was constantly being villified by the media and that negative perception never dissipated. He was a victim because he was targeted and made an example of for embracing his culture.

[kurple]

he was constantly being villified by the media and that negative perception never dissipated. He was a victim because he was targeted and made an example of for embracing his culture.
no one can argue this.

[Real Men Wear Green]

why would he accept coming of the bench, behind Rodney ****ing Stuckey. Even I would take it as an insult, and i'm no future hall of famer
Ray Allen accepted backing up Avery Bradley, a player he was arguably still better than. He didn't like it, but he did it. The reason AI should have accepted his new role should be obvious to all of you: It would have lengthened his career. Like Ray Allen, Iverson was getting old and when a player gets old they have to accept a lesser role if they want to stay in the league. It doesn't matter who they have above you in the rotation, what matters is that the team that is employing you wants you to play a certain role. If you are unwilling to play that role teams will be unwilling to employ you.
no one can argue this.
What, a bunch of stupid nonsense? Actually it's easy. Observe:
he was constantly being villified by the media and that negative perception never dissipated. He was a victim because he was targeted and made an example of for embracing his culture.
He was the first pick in the draft, made 10s of millions of dollars, several ASGs and won the MVP award. Wow, what a victim. Like he's the only player in the NBA that liked rap, baggy jeans and tats. Get a clue.

[kurple]

Ray Allen accepted backing up Avery Bradley, a player he was arguably still better than. He didn't like it, but he did it.
1) Iverson averaged 26.4 ppg on his highest FG% EVER the season before he was traded to detroit.

2) Avery Bradley isnt Rodney Stuckey

3) Allen came of the bench 4 ****ing games in Boston. how can u use this as an arguement. 12 if you count the playoffs. but still

this is like not comparable AT ALL

4) Allen averaged 14ppg the season he got "benched". not 26

[kurple]

What, a bunch of stupid nonsense? Actually it's easy. Observe:
He was the first pick in the draft, made 10s of millions of dollars, several ASGs and won the MVP award. Wow, what a victim. Like he's the only player in the NBA that liked rap, baggy jeans and tats. Get a clue.
he was loved by the fans, but hated by the league and large parts of the media

[kurple]

imagine if this happened to Kobe. or most stars for that matter.

AI knew he could play. he proved it the year before. I dont blame him for feeling disrespected by being benched for a scrub

[JellyBean]

he was constantly being villified by the media and that negative perception never dissipated. He was a victim because he was targeted and made an example of for embracing his culture.


Oh, so it was the media' fault? :oldlol: Stop it!!
Look, I

[Real Men Wear Green]

1) Iverson averaged 26.4 ppg on his highest FG% EVER the season before he was traded to detroit.Doesn't matter. It's not that AI was never good, he's a HoFer and probably the best 6 ft-and-under scorer ever. His problem was that he was declining. His first year in Detroit he averaged 17.4 ppg on 41.6% (started 50 of 54 games). That's not good. Still starting in Philly 24 of 25 gameshe got 13.9 on 41.7. Again, not good. He was getting old so coaches wanted him to be a reserve. That happens to almost every player fortunate enough to play into his 30s.


2) Avery Bradley isnt Rodney StuckeyAt the time Detroit had AI Stuckey was viewed as a potentially excellent offensive guard. Bradley of last year was (and still is) an excellent defender with below-average offensive pg skills.


3) Allen came of the bench 4 ****ing games in Boston. how can u use this as an arguement. 12 if you count the playoffs. but stillIn that one year (let's go ahead and include the playoffs) he came off the bench more times than AI has his entire career.


this is like not comparable AT ALLThe two capital words don't make your argument any more valid.


4) Allen averaged 14ppg the season he got "benched". not 26
Yeah, I know...shooting 41.7%.

[Real Men Wear Green]

he was loved by the fans, but hated by the league and large parts of the media
You do know that the media votes for the MVP award, don't you?

[knickballer]

he was constantly being villified by the media and that negative perception never dissipated. He was a victim because he was targeted and made an example of for embracing his culture.

Culture? :oldlol:

[FireDavidKahn]

Wow, people seriously think AI is a victim?:roll:

[Just2McFly]

Cool cover.

Interesting fact:AI has a lifetime deal with Reebok so he's going to be making 2001 endorsement again with Reebok's resurgence. Sometimes, loyalty pays off.

[JellyBean]

he was loved by the fans, but hated by the league and large parts of the media

He was not hated by the league or by "large" parts of the media. Sure I will agree that some folks in the media might not have liked Iverson but it wasn't a "large" number of them that did not like him. Iverson was popular in the media. How could he not be? The dude was tiny and playing hard. THat is a media and marketing draw.

Also for the league to have "hated" Iverson so much, they sure made a point out "hating" him enough to market him. Iverson's jersey was the top selling jersey in the league for a number of years.

[Foster5k]

Iverson was a great player. I don't really know if he can be considered a victim. However, there was a lot of hate coming his way for no real apparent reason.

Also, despite popular opinion. He did make all his teammates better, during his Philly days.

[Just2McFly]

You're a fool. The NBA couldn't stop Iverson's influence so they do what businesses do best, adapt and make money. Once he even came close to hurting the bottom line, he got the black plague treatment. Both AI and RIP were extremely unhappy with the decisions their coach was making in Detroit. This has been documented.

As much as I love my buckeyes, Mike Conley Jr. Is still a middling point guard with little to no upside. They are going to have to move him in order to reach anything near a championship.

Iverson's behavior was unacceptable at times but I never misunderstood why. The guys in front of him weren't great and they werent winning, so of course he wants to play.

If he was on the heat instead of Cole for example, do you think we would ever hear him complain? I for one, don't think so.

[BlueandGold]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

[JellyBean]

I will add this, Allen Iverson had some cold kicks. Those "Question" joints were tight!! I use to rock an Orange and White pair....fresh as heck...showing my age. Who says "Fresh" anymore?

[Real Men Wear Green]

You're a fool. The NBA couldn't stop Iverson's influence so they do what businesses do best, adapt and make money. Once he even came close to hurting the bottom line, he got the black plague treatment. Both AI and RIP were extremely unhappy with the decisions their coach was making in Detroit. This has been documented.

As much as I love my buckeyes, Mike Conley Jr. Is still a middling point guard with little to no upside. They are going to have to move him in order to reach anything near a championship.

Iverson's behavior was unacceptable at times but I never misunderstood why. The guys in front of him weren't great and they werent winning, so of course he wants to play.

If he was on the heat instead of Cole for example, do you think we would ever hear him complain? I for one, don't think so.
That's not the NBA holding him down, that's a few coaches that actually wanted him on their team wanting him to play a lesser role. Huge difference.

[Shepseskaf]

Wow, people seriously think AI is a victim?:roll:
I wouldn't call him a victim, but he definitely received biased coverage by the media that was over the top.

[Nick Young]

39% shooter, what a boss:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

1 victory in the finals and he became the most overrated ballhog chucker in NBA history

[ripthekik]

I felt he definitely messed up his career towards the end man.. he had quite a few opportunities..

I wished he won a ring in 2001.. and if only he went somewhere instead of teaming up with Melo.. that guy only brings you playoff failures :(

btw, 2nd shoe is all white questions, i don't recognize the first red ones

[Ne 1]

I dont give a shit what the haters say. you were the NBA in the early 00's


Nope.

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[ripthekik]

Lakers were the champions, but when you talk about the worldwide influence Iverson had, the popularity and influence he brought to youth all over the world, it can not be denied..

[StroShow4]

Who the f@ck is this clown in the skinny pants? :facepalm

[OhNoTimNoSho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI
Iverson actual make great points throughout until the last one, how the hell can i make my teammates better through practice?


He says in the beggining he might have missed 1 practice all year. and i believe him. The media blowing shit out of proportion

[Just2McFly]

Who the f@ck is this clown in the skinny pants? :facepalmAre you talking about Tyga?

[imnew09]

Da fk?

Tyga and Ross talking about crossovers? :facepalm

[STATUTORY]

[QUOTE=JellyBean]Oh, so it was the media' fault? :oldlol: Stop it!!
Look, I

[tomtucker]

looks like ricky swallowed a basketball.......:oldlol:

[theaussieguy]

Lakers were the champions, but when you talk about the worldwide influence Iverson had, the popularity and influence he brought to youth all over the world, it can not be denied..

hmm maybe you have a biased opinion. I was never a basketball fan in the early 00's, but i sure knew who shaq and kobe were. Did not know who Iverson was until about 2007

[tomtucker]

was iverson not a very selfish player ?......... taking it to the rim himself all the time and rarely passing..........?

[Patrick Chewing]

Lakers were the champions, but when you talk about the worldwide influence Iverson had, the popularity and influence he brought to youth all over the world, it can not be denied..


I'm sorry, but if he did bring any influence, it was only negative then. He was not a role model by any means. Dude has always wanted to be considered a thug.

[ripthekik]

hmm maybe you have a biased opinion. I was never a basketball fan in the early 00's, but i sure knew who shaq and kobe were. Did not know who Iverson was until about 2007
Hmm Shaq was definitely more popular worldwide, but I would think globally, Iverson would have more popularity than Kobe back in the early 2000's.


I'm sorry, but if he did bring any influence, it was only negative then. He was not a role model by any means. Dude has always wanted to be considered a thug.
Perhaps to you, but the influence he brought wasn't only about cornrows, hip-hop baggy clothes, being a thug, and tattoos. He also showed heart, will, and how a little man can dominate a league with big men. His relentless style of play, no fear, fighting through the injuries, are certainly motivational to a huge population, who can relate more to his height than say Shaq.

[Lebron23]

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[SilkkTheShocker]

Most overrated player in the history of the NBA. What a loser

[Rowe]

Iverson kept it real and didn't put up no front. In this modern age of political correctness and corporate culture, a figure like Iverson was a constant reminder of people's own cowardice and inability to just be themselves. that's why Iverson bothered so many people, his kindred spirit was a foil to their cookie cutter conformity driven existence.

Yep. This right here.

[Draz]

AI we miss you so much =(

[TheMarkMadsen]

How many people in this thread actually followed AI's career? Because most of these post claiming he was a victim sound like they were typed by a robot, also somebody said "Iverson was basketball in the early 90s" ok..Well he was drafted in 96 sooo

AI was one of the most popular players in the L from the moment he was drafted until about 04 dude was always a top 3 most popular player.

He had an amazing career, led a bad team to the finals, racked up multiple scoring titles, won an MVP (voted on by the media) and is a top 26 player all time IMO.

fact is though, AI was never in a position to win championships, and after awhile his "attitude" wasn't worth putting up with for a franchise that couldn't seem to build around him.

He caught a bad for his "attitude" skipping practices etc & all of this was magnified due to the fact that he hadn't won a ring.

If AI had won atleast 1 ring as the FMVP he'd be widely considered a fringe top 10 player off all time.

[Rowe]

Ray Allen accepted backing up Avery Bradley, a player he was arguably still better than. He didn't like it, but he did it. The reason AI should have accepted his new role should be obvious to all of you: It would have lengthened his career. Like Ray Allen, Iverson was getting old and when a player gets old they have to accept a lesser role if they want to stay in the league. It doesn't matter who they have above you in the rotation, what matters is that the team that is employing you wants you to play a certain role. If you are unwilling to play that role teams will be unwilling to employ you.

What happened in Detroit wasnt entirely comparable to what happened with Ray Allen last season. Iverson was still a far superior player to Allen when he was sent to Detroit and could still carry a team scoring-wise. If you remember, he embraced the situation of going to another "winner" only until he figured out that Detroit had no plans to do a contract extension. The only reason Denver dealt him was because Iverson & their FO were wrangling over a contract extension.

The team fell apart the minute they let Stuckey start playing PG. Rip is the one who openly complained and ripped Michael Curry for having to come off the bench because of it. Dumars wanted Stuckey to be the focal point to justify trading Chauncey, but Stuckey wasn't ready then just like he isn't ready to now.

The only similarity is that they both lost their jobs when they got hurt. Ray Allen took a "backseat" as a reserve to Bradley because he was injured, and that injury opened up a chance for Bradley to take his job. AI injured his back and when he returned Curry had now discovered the backcourt which marked 2-3 future years of Pistons failure, Stuckey & Rip.

But its one thing to swallow your pride and take a backseat on a championship contender, while it is another to take a backseat on a 9th seed team. Of course its best to retire/quit than be associated with that failure and worst of all you're not even a major part of the team. That really isn't "adapting" to a new role. Was Iverson supposed to be some dynamic 6th Man on a contender? Why was it that only 1 team show any interest in him that offseason and it was a mediocre Grizzlies team? I do believe many NBA GM's and of course the NBA felt and still feel that Iverson had started to overshadow the "new generation" because of his popularity and the negativity to his name.

[Rowe]

AI was one of the most popular players in the L from the moment he was drafted until about 04 dude was always a top 3 most popular player.
AI was one of the most popular players in the league until he stopped playing. He suddenly didn't just drop off in 2004.

He had the same effect on fans that LeBron did after the 2011 NBA Finals, except that was his career from 1998. His first 2 seasons he was still viewed in a somewhat positive light, which is why the media took his side in the whole alleged fight with Jerry Stackhouse.





fact is though, AI was never in a position to win championships, and after awhile his "attitude" wasn't worth putting up with for a franchise that couldn't seem to build around him.

He caught a bad for his "attitude" skipping practices etc & all of this was magnified due to the fact that he hadn't won a ring.

The problem is his "attitude" was over-exaggerated because of the "thug, I do what I wanna" persona that he had. Even when things were going down hill in Philly none of his teammates had a bad thing to say about him, his practice habits, etc. Neither did his coaches. And he really butted heads with Larry Brown and Mo Cheeks at times.

He was nowhere near as terrible of a teammate as Stephon Marbury, a guy who openly let it be known he didn't care whether they won or lost. Marbury just didn't want the media to blame him for it and he had a meltdown when they did. Also, AI doesn't even have anywhere near the negative "attitude" that Kobe still is bringing into the locker room and on the floor. Kobe's talent just backs it up at the moment.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Averaging 17 on 42% AI could have carried a team? I don't see it. He was obviously declining. He obviously wasn't satisfied with being a reserve so no contender wanted to bring him in. He still thought he was a superstar while his lower talent level was that of a roleplayer.

[Cali Syndicate]

imagine if this happened to Kobe. or most stars for that matter.

AI knew he could play. he proved it the year before. I dont blame him for feeling disrespected by being benched for a scrub

I remember ai after the trade saying something along the lines how he was willing to do anything for the pistons to take them to the next level. That he understood that the team fueled off their chemistry.

In hindsight, yeah stuckey has never lived up to the player people thought he would be. At the time though, pistons thought he could take over billups role. So it's not that crazy for them to put some faith in the kid. Plus iverson was always a good scorer. Playing 5 on 1 had been his forte since day one. Playmaker sure. Facilitator? Not really. So really, coming off the bench didn't mean anything. He would have still played 30plus minutes and have still scored 20 some odd points a night while fueling the bench production. Its not like they were asking him to be a role player. What if he won 6th man of the year? Would have been great to see that. I didn't see what his problem was except that he had too much pride. Sucked to see his career end the way it did but he has no one to blame but himself. He swallows his pride, he might even still be somewhere in the nba right now.

[JtotheIzzo]

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Some things will never change.

AI is one of them.


Wow, SLAM still on his dlck after all this time.

[TheMarkMadsen]

AI was one of the most popular players in the league until he stopped playing. He suddenly didn't just drop off in 2004.

He had the same effect on fans that LeBron did after the 2011 NBA Finals, except that was his career from 1998. His first 2 seasons he was still viewed in a somewhat positive light, which is why the media took his side in the whole alleged fight with Jerry Stackhouse.




The problem is his "attitude" was over-exaggerated because of the "thug, I do what I wanna" persona that he had. Even when things were going down hill in Philly none of his teammates had a bad thing to say about him, his practice habits, etc. Neither did his coaches. And he really butted heads with Larry Brown and Mo Cheeks at times.

He was nowhere near as terrible of a teammate as Stephon Marbury, a guy who openly let it be known he didn't care whether they won or lost. Marbury just didn't want the media to blame him for it and he had a meltdown when they did. Also, AI doesn't even have anywhere near the negative "attitude" that Kobe still is bringing into the locker room and on the floor. Kobe's talent just backs it up at the moment.


i'm u huge AI fan i'm not saying anything negative like you think i am, AI was a good teammate and his "attitude" that i was talking about was him not being a PR kiss ass.

He was who he was, he had reached his ultimate goal of being an NBA superstar and wasn't going to change for nobody.

Just COPPED these last Friday when they dropped

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[willds09]

Wow, SLAM still on his dlck after all this time.
U mad bro??:lol

[willds09]

i'm u huge AI fan i'm not saying anything negative like you think i am, AI was a good teammate and his "attitude" that i was talking about was him not being a PR kiss ass.

He was who he was, he had reached his ultimate goal of being an NBA superstar and wasn't going to change for nobody.

Just COPPED these last Friday when they dropped

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Georgetown:applause:

[willds09]

Nope.

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not right man :facepalm I only cheered for Kobe shaq lakers in 2000 tho

[willds09]

imagine if this happened to Kobe. or most stars for that matter.

AI knew he could play. he proved it the year before. I dont blame him for feeling disrespected by being benched for a scrub
Kobe would of retired:lol

[MiseryCityTexas]

What are you guys talking about? He REFUSED to adjust his role and play in the system his team wanted, you know, back when he WAS in the NBA?

Or did you forget that?

You guys act like he was somehow outcast for no reason, as if a player averaging 25ppg was ruthlessly quarantined out of some personal agenda.

Get a ****ing clue, as his skills changed from what they once were, he was asked to adjust. Why do you choose to forget that he outright REFUSED to come off the bench (Pistons). And then in his final stint in Philadelphia, he exited using a "saving face" strategy, in which he used some reason about his daughter being sick. Make no mistake, that's an excuse. If your daughter is sick, you NOT playing basketball is not helping her, whatever phantom illness she had, the DOCTORS would've been the ones to help her. Unless it's literally life or death (in which case you could argue he'd want to be there at her bedside for her final moments), there's no reason to stop playing basketball. But that's a moot point, since it turned out there was no verified illness or anything medically wrong with her anyway. Let's also not forget the flyers advertising some club he was gonna be at on that game night...

Iverson was great. But just like Kobe now, he's refused to adjust. Only difference is Kobe's skills are still so good that his selfish refusal to adjust to his teammates, STILL allows him to play at god-like levels. Because when your skill set converges on infinity, "diminishment" is a mortal term.

get your facts str8 dummy. Grizzlies forced him to change his role. pistons didn't want him period.

[L.Kizzle]

Still a Iverson fan, but how old is this nigha?

[Shih508]

Missing AI so much. Most unique player ever in NBA history.

[MetsPackers]

i'm u huge AI fan i'm not saying anything negative like you think i am, AI was a good teammate and his "attitude" that i was talking about was him not being a PR kiss ass.

He was who he was, he had reached his ultimate goal of being an NBA superstar and wasn't going to change for nobody.

Just COPPED these last Friday when they dropped

http://4.kicksonfire.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rQuestionsHOyas_01.jpeg

:roll: :roll: :roll: Damn bro those are wack as hell hahahahaha

You must really like AI to spend money on those dawg so I gotta give you one of those: :applause: but those janns are at 0% swag hahaha no swag oh man idk why but i'm dying laughing at how wack those are :roll: :dancin

[ripthekik]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Damn bro those are wack as hell hahahahaha

You must really like AI to spend money on those dawg so I gotta give you one of those: :applause: but those janns are at 0% swag hahaha no swag oh man idk why but i'm dying laughing at how wack those are :roll: :dancin
stupid troll. Those are one of the most popular basketball shoes ever.

I've always wanted to get the Answer IV black/white colorway.. next time I see them, I'm buying for sure. I also loved the V all-star colorway..

[Just2McFly]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Damn bro those are wack as hell hahahahaha

You must really like AI to spend money on those dawg so I gotta give you one of those: :applause: but those janns are at 0% swag hahaha no swag oh man idk why but i'm dying laughing at how wack those are :roll: :dancin
You should be banned for this post.:facepalm

[No_Look604]

Well deserved:applause: except Rick Ross and tyga get them fake ass niguhs outta here :facepalm

:applause:

[No_Look604]

I had those Iverson kicks but my front toe was blue, shoe was mostly white.

I haven't owned too many bball shoes, but the best ones ever are the Jason Kidd ones with the lava rock. Easily the best grip and makes cutting a breeze and they just felt so good rising and coming down on when shooting...some people are picky about that. Youngstas, peep game, will not regret.