Jonny Flynn Couldn't Even Be The Best Player On His Australasian League Team

[Euroleague]

In the Australasian League, they have votes and awards for best player of each team. Jonny Flynn didn't even win the award for best player of his own team. Chris Goulding did.

:roll:

[bdreason]

Fairly average player to begin with, and a shell of himself after the hip surgery.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Johny Flyn couldn't even be on an NBA TEAM, yet he's considered 1 of the best players on his euro team..

:roll:

And this is suppossed to further your euro>nba agenda how?

[mattvNJ]

your really reaching guy

[ZenMaster]

Johny Flyn couldn't even be on an NBA TEAM, yet he's considered 1 of the best players on his euro team..

:roll:

And this is suppossed to further your euro>nba agenda how?

Euro teams in Australia...:biggums: :biggums:

[Euroleague]

Johny Flyn couldn't even be on an NBA TEAM, yet he's considered 1 of the best players on his euro team..

:roll:

And this is suppossed to further your euro>nba agenda how?

How ****ing retarded are you?

:facepalm

[TheMarkMadsen]

How ****ing retarded are you?

:facepalm


Tell me what's the point of this thread? Are international players better than NBA players?

Their not, eurleauge sucks and is straight minor leauges compared to the NBA.

Once again ill ask you this question that you always avoid, if international bball is as amazing as you claim then why don't the best prospects in the USA skip the NBA and go straight the euroleague, and then so why do so many foreign prospects enter their name in the NBA draft and choose to skip the euroleauge??

[Euroleague]

Tell me what's the point of this thread? Are international players better than NBA players?

Their not, eurleauge sucks and is straight minor leauges compared to the NBA.

Once again ill ask you this question that you always avoid, if international bball is as amazing as you claim then why don't the best prospects in the USA skip the NBA and go straight the euroleague, and then so why do so many foreign prospects enter their name in the NBA draft and choose to skip the euroleauge??

Wow, you really ARE retarded. OK.

:rolleyes:

[nathanjizzle]

guy is an athletic competitor. he would have been ok at everysport, but never good at anything. i think his height stopped him from being good in the nba.

[outbreak]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he like 2nd in the league in both points and assists in the NBL. Not sure what the australiasian league is but i thought he did well in the NBL. Only watched a couple games this year but the NBL style is vastly different to the NBA and even Euroleague. It's like comparing apples to oranges, doesn't rely on athleticism at all which is a big part of a lot of the american guys who don't really gel in the NBA. They have the athleticism to make it through college and make a roster but don;'t have the talent to stick so end up in other leagues

[RRR3]

Better NBA career than V-Span though :yaohappy:

[9512]

Is 6 an evil number?

Many players (not all) drafted at that position have sucked or have had bad reputations (Antoine walker, yi jianlian, Robert Taylor, Ron mercer etc...)

Brandon Roy is the only great player and even he got hexed. Lol

[Big_Dogg]

Just for the record, it's the Australian league, not Australasian

[Euroleague]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he like 2nd in the league in both points and assists in the NBL. Not sure what the australiasian league is but i thought he did well in the NBL. Only watched a couple games this year but the NBL style is vastly different to the NBA and even Euroleague. It's like comparing apples to oranges, doesn't rely on athleticism at all which is a big part of a lot of the american guys who don't really gel in the NBA. They have the athleticism to make it through college and make a roster but don;'t have the talent to stick so end up in other leagues

The NBL IS the Australasian League. It's not a league for just Australian teams. It's a league for Australasian teams (Australia and New Zealand).

[outbreak]

Is 6 an evil number?

Many players (not all) drafted at that position have sucked or have had bad reputations (Antoine walker, yi jianlian, Robert Taylor, Ron mercer etc...)

Brandon Roy is the only great player and even he got hexed. Lol

lilard and gallinari? Udoh?
It's just a position where a player who is hyped up but hasn't produced usually falls too. Because of this they can go either way

[b1imtf]

Better NBA career than V-Span though :yaohappy:
This should really end the thread

[coin24]

The NBL IS the Australasian League. It's not a league for just Australian teams. It's a league for Australasian teams (Australia and New Zealand).

It's also fu*king garbage and nobody watches or gives a shit about it here..
It might be the only league in the world that's even worse than the euroleague:lol

[Big_Dogg]

The NBL IS the Australasian League. It's not a league for just Australian teams. It's a league for Australasian teams (Australia and New Zealand).

I live in Australia and follow the league, it has never been referred to as the Australasian league except by you.

The league is called the National Basketball League, or NBL if you prefer, just because it includes a team from NZ doesn't make it Australiasian by default, even the Kiwi's (New Zealanders for those who don't know) refer to it as the Australian National Basketball League ANBL instead of NBL.

[coin24]

I live in Australia and follow the league, it has never been referred to as the Australasian league except by you.

The league is called the National Basketball League, or NBL if you prefer, just because it includes a team from NZ doesn't make it Australiasian by default, even the Kiwi's (New Zealanders for those who don't know) refer to it as the Australian National Basketball League ANBL instead of NBL.

Also this..

Never heard of Australasian league:facepalm

[Qwyjibo]

So someone who was a horrendous NBA player was awful elsewhere? Shocking.

[G-train]

So someone who was a horrendous NBA player was awful elsewhere? Shocking.

He is playing pretty decently.

[G-train]

It's also fu*king garbage and nobody watches or gives a shit about it here..
It might be the only league in the world that's even worse than the euroleague:lol

You don't seem to know much about international ball.

Leagues like the SEABL in Australia are a similar standard to the Chinese League IMO. The NBL is much better than the CBA (China). The NBL is a very good standard.

Euroleague (which is an entirely different concept) is an elite level competition.

[coin24]

You don't seem to know much about international ball.

Leagues like the SEABL in Australia are a similar standard to the Chinese League IMO. The NBL is much better than the CBA (China). The NBL is a very good standard.

Euroleague (which is an entirely different concept) is an elite level competition.

You don't seem to know much about trolling or sarcasm:lol

And no, the nbl sucks.

[El Kabong]

I try watching the NBL, but it's freaking horrendous most times.

[9512]

lilard and gallinari? Udoh?
It's just a position where a player who is hyped up but hasn't produced usually falls too. Because of this they can go either way

In my initial post, I said "not all" I had 2 of those 3 player you mentioned in mind when I typed it.

Lillard & Gallinari are great and Udoh...I have no idea who he is...

[32MJ32]

OP, as per usual, carefully selected which parts of the story to tell:

Jonny Flynn finished 2nd in the league in scoring and 2nd in assists. We play 40 minute games down here so although his final figures of 17.4ppg and 5.9apg may look low, they're not bad considering most games finish in the 80's. From a purely statistical point of view, he was the best player on his team.

However, as the OP DIDN'T point out, either because a) he doesn't know what he's talking about, b) he's pushing the same tired old agenda (which is now a self parody that apparently everybody has realised except the OP himself) or c) both:

- Jonny joined the team mid-season. He simply didn't play enough games to warrant the team MVP award

- In Australia, team MVP's are often given to the player who not only provides the best statistical contribution but also exhibits the best work ethic, hustle etc. Intagibles, as Jay Bilas calls them. The gentleman who won the award, Chris Goulding - who the OP wouldn't know if he kicked him in the groin - is an energizer bunny who spends as much time putting the ball in the hoop as he does diving for it on the floor

I'd suggest EuroLeague keep to his eponymous trolling and leave Australia out of it. Or just do us all a favour and quit the internet

KBlaze88555, this is a good thread to include as part of your crusade to shut down factually inaccurate and garbage threads

[outbreak]

To be fair to euroleague the last time I was at my folks their digital tv guide had the NBL game labelled as "Australasian league" was the first time I had seen it called that and I can't find it called that through google or on the NBL website. I didn't watch the game and actually thought it could have been some kind of inter league tournament or something with the surrounding oceanic area.
Euroleague has still ignored my post about Flynn being 2nd in scoring and assists in the league. Always an agenda.

Another point on Flynn, wasn't he coming back from injury when he played his first games in Australia? I seem to remember reading something about it but i may be wrong on that so feel free to correct me

[32MJ32]

1. I'm glad you pointed out that Flynn was 2nd in scoring and assists.

2. Flynn was coming back from a hip problem, yes.

3. One could argue that he was "garbage" in the NBA because his hip trouble actually started in his rookie year. Ever tried to play high level sport with a screwed hip? It's near on impossible and it takes FOREVER to heal

4. No one who watches the NBL could possibly think Flynn is a poor player or even close to it. As such, I don't understand why the OP even bothered with this thread, since he doesn't watch the league. If he did, and he wanted to push the "NBA/NCAA/AMERICAN PLAYERS SUCK IN OTHER LEAGUES" line of argument, there are tons of examples he could use.

Eric Devendorf, a McDonald's All-American and highly touted Syrcause grad, got his shit pushed in when he played down here. Rod Grizzard, ex-NBA draft pick, was cut by 2 different NBL teams. There are literally 100's of others.

I'd go as far to say as this one of the most poorly executed and researched threads in ISH history

[b1imtf]

OP, as per usual, carefully selected which parts of the story to tell:

Jonny Flynn finished 2nd in the league in scoring and 2nd in assists. We play 40 minute games down here so although his final figures of 17.4ppg and 5.9apg may look low, they're not bad considering most games finish in the 80's. From a purely statistical point of view, he was the best player on his team.

However, as the OP DIDN'T point out, either because a) he doesn't know what he's talking about, b) he's pushing the same tired old agenda (which is now a self parody that apparently everybody has realised except the OP himself) or c) both:

- Jonny joined the team mid-season. He simply didn't play enough games to warrant the team MVP award

- In Australia, team MVP's are often given to the player who not only provides the best statistical contribution but also exhibits the best work ethic, hustle etc. Intagibles, as Jay Bilas calls them. The gentleman who won the award, Chris Goulding - who the OP wouldn't know if he kicked him in the groin - is an energizer bunny who spends as much time putting the ball in the hoop as he does diving for it on the floor

I'd suggest EuroLeague keep to his eponymous trolling and leave Australia out of it. Or just do us all a favour and quit the internet

KBlaze88555, this is a good thread to include as part of your crusade to shut down factually inaccurate and garbage threads
Where you at, EuroLeague???

[B-Easy8]

Flynn wasn't terrible but I wouldn't say he was that good either.

I follow the NBL and go to every Perth Wildcats game so im not just talking shit here.

I remember both times he came to Perth and he was awful. They guy playing on him has now won 3 consecutive D-Poy awards but he still was utter trash. I remember he had 2 points in the game with about 5 minutes to go and his team was down 30. His coach kept him in the whole game and he stat padded his way to about 10-12 points in the final 5 minutes against development players.

He did better against the weaker teams, though he still didn't lead his team to the playoffs.

People are talking about him like he was a NBA scrub. Im a Wolves fan and I remember a lot of people saying we should cut ties with Rubio since he hadn't come over yet and build around Flynn since he had a good rookie year.

[Marv_Albert]

NEW ZEALAND BREAKERS THREE PEAT YESSSSSIRRRRR

CEDRIC JACKSON SHOULD BE IN THE NBA :rockon:

[B-Easy8]

NEW ZEALAND BREAKERS THREE PEAT YESSSSSIRRRRR

CEDRIC JACKSON SHOULD BE IN THE NBA :rockon:

Jackson just got utterly destroyed by the Wildcats without Martin.

If he can't play well against our backup PG, he shouldnt be in the NBA.

Breakers vs Wildcats is going to be sick though.:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Euroleague]

Just for the record, it's the Australian league, not Australasian

Just for the record, it is actually Australasian. The champs of New Zealand also play in it. New Zealand isn't in Australia.

[Euroleague]

I live in Australia and follow the league, it has never been referred to as the Australasian league except by you.

The league is called the National Basketball League, or NBL if you prefer, just because it includes a team from NZ doesn't make it Australiasian by default, even the Kiwi's (New Zealanders for those who don't know) refer to it as the Australian National Basketball League ANBL instead of NBL.

You are a ****ing moron.

[Euroleague]

To be fair to euroleague the last time I was at my folks their digital tv guide had the NBL game labelled as "Australasian league" was the first time I had seen it called that and I can't find it called that through google or on the NBL website. I didn't watch the game and actually thought it could have been some kind of inter league tournament or something with the surrounding oceanic area.
Euroleague has still ignored my post about Flynn being 2nd in scoring and assists in the league. Always an agenda.

Another point on Flynn, wasn't he coming back from injury when he played his first games in Australia? I seem to remember reading something about it but i may be wrong on that so feel free to correct me

Yes, it is called Australasian League in TV because it actually is that. Funny how some ****ing idiots who claim to watch the league don't even know that.

[Big_Dogg]

Just for the record, it is actually Australasian. The champs of New Zealand also play in it. New Zealand isn't in Australia.

You're a ****ing peanut, the champs of NZ do not play in the league, the Breakers are an NBL team only, the Kiwis have their own league and the Breakers are not part of it.

We live in Australia and follow the league, I've followed it for 20 years but you think you know better, good work dipshit, you proved yourself once again to be a muppet.

Even Google thinks you're an idiot, try to type Austalasian Basketball League into it and the first thing it does is correct it to Australian Basketball League.

Once again, you have failed, now **** off back to your box you clown.

[Aussie Dunker]

Jackson just got utterly destroyed by the Wildcats without Martin.

If he can't play well against our backup PG, he shouldnt be in the NBA.

Breakers vs Wildcats is going to be sick though.:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Jackson might have a slim chance at NBA if he is lucky, but if I had to pick one player from the NBL to compete in the NBA - it would be Damien martin. I have never seen an onball defender like him. He would be purely a specialist, but if you already have a scoring punch of the bench, why not bring in a lock down specialist? I think he would thrive. 5-10 minutes per game...

[Lebron23]

Flynn's ABL Stats

http://www.tigers.com.au/i/nblclub/player/842.jpg He led his team in scoring, and assists per game.

17.6 ppg, 5.9 apg, and 4.1 rpg.

http://www.tigers.com.au/playerprofile/id/842

[Wavves]

Just for the record, it is actually Australasian. The champs of New Zealand also play in it. New Zealand isn't in Australia.

You are that ****ing stupid, most of the people who are commenting in this thread are Australian, and do watch the league on occasion or on a regular basis. It has never been named the Australasian League by anyone other than yourself.

[peejay89]

Australasian? Euroleague you are from Arkansas and obviously know nothing about ball down here.

Your opinions are way off, you do know a lot about the euro league but that doesn't make u an expert at basketball in other leagues.

Everyone realises you're trolling, act is getting old so maybe it's time you shut the **** up and started posting somewhere other than the nba forum.

[Walker]

Just for the record, it is actually Australasian. The champs of New Zealand also play in it. New Zealand isn't in Australia.
There's no such thing you fuxking moron.

The region is called Oceania, if you wanna be a douchebag call it the Oceanic League...

The only people that say Australasia are uneducated retards, like yourself, cause you know... THERE'S NO SUCH THING.


Talk about a stupid American, this kid takes the cake.

[B-Easy8]

Jackson might have a slim chance at NBA if he is lucky, but if I had to pick one player from the NBL to compete in the NBA - it would be Damien martin. I have never seen an onball defender like him. He would be purely a specialist, but if you already have a scoring punch of the bench, why not bring in a lock down specialist? I think he would thrive. 5-10 minutes per game...

Martin's defense is ridiculous.

He was second in steals, top 10 in blocks as a PG and is an absolute monster when it comes to on ball defending.

His offense is awful though. He can set up his teammates and he can run an offense well but he can't score at all. That being said, I agree with you. If you put him on a team with a lot of scorers he would be perfect. The Lakers should have taken a look at him. He doesn't want to shoot and will lock down the opposing team's PG.

[Big_Dogg]

Martin's defense is ridiculous.

He was second in steals, top 10 in blocks as a PG and is an absolute monster when it comes to on ball defending.

His offense is awful though. He can set up his teammates and he can run an offense well but he can't score at all. That being said, I agree with you. If you put him on a team with a lot of scorers he would be perfect. The Lakers should have taken a look at him. He doesn't want to shoot and will lock down the opposing team's PG.

Not to mention he is such a humble and quiet guy, he's just a really good dude and a great on ball defender, when he is chasing a player down on the break you know he's going for that ball for the block and will more than likely get it.

[The Genius]

NBL stopped being interesting when the Gaze/Copeland era ended. We did get some exciting players like Leon Trimmingham back then, now NBL is an afterthought.

[Snoop_Cat]

I love how he just ignored the post regarding why Jonny Flynn didn't get the team MVP award. :oldlol:

[outbreak]

There's no such thing you fuxking moron.

The region is called Oceania, if you wanna be a douchebag call it the Oceanic League...

The only people that say Australasia are uneducated retards, like yourself, cause you know... THERE'S NO SUCH THING.


Talk about a stupid American, this kid takes the cake.

I agree with you, I followed the league heavily when magic were in it and I had never herd it called australiasian before. I did see it in a tv guide recently though but when seeing this thread I could find no evidence it was ever called that by any one. To be honest I don't even know if the australiasian league game in the tv guide was even NBL as I didn't watch it and it made no mention of who was playing, for all I know it could have been another exhibition game/indigenous game who knows. Euroleague is still an idiot arguing that us Australians don't know what our own league is referred to as.

[Marv_Albert]

Jackson just got utterly destroyed by the Wildcats without Martin.

If he can't play well against our backup PG, he shouldnt be in the NBA.

Breakers vs Wildcats is going to be sick though.:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

bad game was bound to happen, he's killed the wildcats last few games... we got this.

[Euroleague]

You're a ****ing peanut, the champs of NZ do not play in the league, the Breakers are an NBL team only, the Kiwis have their own league and the Breakers are not part of it.

We live in Australia and follow the league, I've followed it for 20 years but you think you know better, good work dipshit, you proved yourself once again to be a muppet.

Even Google thinks you're an idiot, try to type Austalasian Basketball League into it and the first thing it does is correct it to Australian Basketball League.

Once again, you have failed, now **** off back to your box you clown.

You are a ****ing idiot. How the **** do you think Breakers got in the league you moron? And how the **** do you think it is called Australasian League on TV guides?

No chance in hell you ever saw a game of that league.

[Euroleague]

There's no such thing you fuxking moron.

The region is called Oceania, if you wanna be a douchebag call it the Oceanic League...

The only people that say Australasia are uneducated retards, like yourself, cause you know... THERE'S NO SUCH THING.


Talk about a stupid American, this kid takes the cake.

You are a ****ing lying scumbag. On TV it is listed as "Australasian League". Wow, what a bunch of lying scumbags in this thread.

[Euroleague]

I agree with you, I followed the league heavily when magic were in it and I had never herd it called australiasian before. I did see it in a tv guide recently though but when seeing this thread I could find no evidence it was ever called that by any one. To be honest I don't even know if the australiasian league game in the tv guide was even NBL as I didn't watch it and it made no mention of who was playing, for all I know it could have been another exhibition game/indigenous game who knows. Euroleague is still an idiot arguing that us Australians don't know what our own league is referred to as.

No these people are just LYING. When you look on the TV guides it is clearly called "Australasian League". Which means that all these a-holes denying this have not even seen a game of it in awhile to not know that.

[Levity]

No these people are just LYING. When you look on the TV guides it is clearly called "Australasian League". Which means that all these a-holes denying this have not even seen a game of it in awhile to not know that.

just curious, but are you basing your claims on what it says on a TV guide? Or did you actually watch the league games and heard it referred to by the announcers as the "australasian" league.

[G-train]

It's referred to as the Australian league and occasionally Australasian, as it is Australasian by definition. But mostly Australian by name.

[32MJ32]

This thread is a farce. Please shut it.

The "champs of New Zealand" do not play in the NBL. The Breakers are an NBL franchise based in New Zealand just like the Raptors are an NBA franchise based in Canada. The Raptors are not the "champs of Canada" and the Breakers are not the "champs of New Zealand."

New Zealand have their own national league called the NZBL that crowns it's own champion. There is no crossover competition between the NZBL and the NBL - at all.

Give up.

[Euroleague]

just curious, but are you basing your claims on what it says on a TV guide? Or did you actually watch the league games and heard it referred to by the announcers as the "australasian" league.

I'm going by the TV name, not what some stupid announcers say. If you look at TV it would say,

NBA
NBA D-League
Euroleague
Eurocup
Liga ACB

It lists the correct names of all these leagues, so I don't see why it would be wrong here.

[Euroleague]

This thread is a farce. Please shut it.

The "champs of New Zealand" do not play in the NBL. The Breakers are an NBL franchise based in New Zealand just like the Raptors are an NBA franchise based in Canada. The Raptors are not the "champs of Canada" and the Breakers are not the "champs of New Zealand."

New Zealand have their own national league called the NZBL that crowns it's own champion. There is no crossover competition between the NZBL and the NBL - at all.

Give up.

The Breakers are the champs of New Zealand because they would crush any team in New Zealands' league. Stop being an idiot. They are in the NBL because they are vastly superior to any other team in New Zealand.

You sound dumber than American basketball fans.

[32MJ32]

The Breakers are the champs of New Zealand because they would crush any team in New Zealands' league. Stop being an idiot. They are in the NBL because they are vastly superior to any other team in New Zealand.

You sound dumber than American basketball fans.

1 .If I'm following correctly:

- A team that plays in the NBL must be better than an NZBL team, because the NBL is widely acknowledged as the better league

- A team that plays in the NBA is not better than a EuroLeague team, despite the fact the NBA is widely acknowledged as the better league

Sweet non-contradiction, man.

2. I repeat: the champs of New Zealand do not play in the NBL. The NZBL crowns it's own champion and the league is run independently of the NBL. To analogise what you're trying to force down everyone's throat and put it into context:

"The champion of the National Basketball League of Canada plays in the NBA."

No, it doesn't. The Raptors do. At no point do the champions of Canada play in the NBA.

Delete this thread, ban this idiot

[Aussie Dunker]

Martin's defense is ridiculous.

He was second in steals, top 10 in blocks as a PG and is an absolute monster when it comes to on ball defending.

His offense is awful though. He can set up his teammates and he can run an offense well but he can't score at all. That being said, I agree with you. If you put him on a team with a lot of scorers he would be perfect. The Lakers should have taken a look at him. He doesn't want to shoot and will lock down the opposing team's PG.

Pretty sure he also ranks 2nd for rebounds per game for the wildcats behind Knight - and is top 10 in the league for offensive rebounds per game!

He is the only player in the league who truly does not take a single play off...

Would love to see him guarding some of the NBA point guards as he absolute destroys anyone he plays on here..

In my opinion he should of been MVP, he is such a game changer

[Suckafree]

Jesus christ. What the hell is going on in here.

I'm from New Zealand and I follow the Breakers more than I follow the NBA.
The Breakers are not 'champs of NZ' (LOL). The NZBL is a farce and should not even really be a 'thing'.

Anyway, 32MJ32 had it right. Euroleague is just crazy.

On another note, an NBA team needs to have a look at Cedric Jackson

[32MJ32]

^ Hire this man

And honestly, with all due respect to the strength of domestic basketball in New Zealand, the Breakers have had a strong foreign influence in their success:

CJ Bruton, Andrej Lemanis, Carlos Powell, Kevin Braswell, Cedric Jackson - the list goes on

To say they're simply the best team New Zealand can put together is, again, 100% incorrect. 2 of the best Kiwi players play in the NBL for Perth, for ****'s sake

[LBJFTW]

Euroleague knows about as much as the NBL as he does the Euroleague which isn't much. Lives in AZ and wishes he was Greek.:lol

[TheAnchorman]

I wish a mod would just shut these threads down the moment they pop up. What a sorry excuse for a basketball "fan".

[Big_Dogg]

Euroleague knows about as much as the NBL as he does the Euroleague which isn't much. Lives in AZ and wishes he was Greek.:lol


I think the only thing Greek about him is how he takes it Greek Style :D

He's proved himself once again to be a complete ****ing idiot, but I must say I love watching him get burned, his stupidity level is rivaled by very few on ISH.

I find it funny how he says to me I've probably never watched a game yet I live in Perth and have been a Wildcats member for 15 years

[outbreak]

Your mis-using my post as evidence Euroleague, just admit that it is not called the australiasian league normally which is what I am saying. While I have seen it called that ONCE, I have since found no other references to it being called that and on my tv guide at home it's always been called NBL (I watched more last year then this year). For once just admit you were wrong and australasian is not the common name. I was just showing some support as to how you may have thought it was called that but now is the point you must accept you weren't correct. You also need to admit that Flynn had a good season here and was a clear cut top 5 player in the league despite coming back from injury and adjusting to a completely new game style and systems that aren't run in NBA/college ball.

[Hittin_Shots]

Why is this guy allowed to post...

[B-Easy8]

Pretty sure he also ranks 2nd for rebounds per game for the wildcats behind Knight - and is top 10 in the league for offensive rebounds per game!

He is the only player in the league who truly does not take a single play off...

Would love to see him guarding some of the NBA point guards as he absolute destroys anyone he plays on here..

In my opinion he should of been MVP, he is such a game changer

MVP is all about offense and he can't score.

I agree with you though. He has won us so many games by hustling and destroying other teams guards. He doesn't get enough credit for what he does.

I think he would be a good backup PG in the NBA if he has shooters and scorers around him. Obviously its hard to tell how his d would translate but he could be the best defensive PG in the NBA as well.

[Euroleague]

1 .If I'm following correctly:

- A team that plays in the NBL must be better than an NZBL team, because the NBL is widely acknowledged as the better league

- A team that plays in the NBA is not better than a EuroLeague team, despite the fact the NBA is widely acknowledged as the better league

Sweet non-contradiction, man.

2. I repeat: the champs of New Zealand do not play in the NBL. The NZBL crowns it's own champion and the league is run independently of the NBL. To analogise what you're trying to force down everyone's throat and put it into context:

"The champion of the National Basketball League of Canada plays in the NBA."

No, it doesn't. The Raptors do. At no point do the champions of Canada play in the NBA.

Delete this thread, ban this idiot

You are clearly a ****ing moron.

[Euroleague]

I think the only thing Greek about him is how he takes it Greek Style :D

He's proved himself once again to be a complete ****ing idiot, but I must say I love watching him get burned, his stupidity level is rivaled by very few on ISH.

I find it funny how he says to me I've probably never watched a game yet I live in Perth and have been a Wildcats member for 15 years

You proved you are a lying son of a bitch.

[Euroleague]

It's called Australasian league when I watch games online through satellite. So whether this ****ing pisses you off or not, that's what they are calling it.

Just so you know, if you watch NBA games through some European channels they call it "North American League".............are you going to throw a hissy fit over that too?

What about when ESPN has called games from ANY league in Europe as "Euroleague games", even though they were NOT Euroleague games? Now THAT would actually be incorrect, unlike calling NBL Australasian League, or NBA North American League, which is not even incorrect at all.

I guess next time someone on this forum calls Liga ACB "the Spanish League" I should start a tirade of hate filled posts and start calling people mofos and asking for bans and thread deletions.

Since "Spanish League" is "officially" called "Liga ACB".

Just stop with this ****ing xenophobic Australian bullshit.

[RRR3]

Jeff, please change this guy's title back to "crazed troll"

[flipogb]

Miami Heat, Champion of the North American League

[outbreak]

It's called Australasian league when I watch games online through satellite.

That's all you needed to say early in the thread and no one would have hated on you (ok some haters here would have but not as many legit posters). The only reason people lost it with you is that you attacked them and started saying that Australians who actually attend the games and follow the games didn't know what they were talking about when they said it's called NBL here. It annoys me that you get picked on sometimes when posting legit threads about euro league as you do know what your talking about but it annoys me twice as much when you start arguments, refuse to admit your wrong, troll people and start agenda threads all the time

[kaiteng]

So who is Johnny Fl..... oh, that guy who got drafted after Ricky Rubio.

[32MJ32]

You are clearly a ****ing moron.

This is allowed? Obviously, it is so:

Hey Jeff, your board sucks, suck a ****ing bag of *****

[Burgz V2]

Is 6 an evil number?

Many players (not all) drafted at that position have sucked or have had bad reputations (Antoine walker, yi jianlian, Robert Taylor, Ron mercer etc...)

Brandon Roy is the only great player and even he got hexed. Lol

mid-lottery, can take a big risk or go super safe and no one would care as much which you choose.

[Marv_Albert]

Nz breakers killed Sydney last night.

[B-Easy8]

The Wildcats destroyed the Hawks.

Just waiting for NZ vs Perth.

[Aussie Dunker]

The Wildcats destroyed the Hawks.

Just waiting for NZ vs Perth.

I have courtside membership tickets - wildcat fans represent! :cheers: