Breakdown of the dangerous/cursed Adidas Rose....

[9erempiree]

After two players going down wearing these shoes, Rose and Ware, I would like to see if the shoes really played into why these guys blew out their knee and leg.

Or is it, simply that this brand is cursed. Here is how the shoes are made. My opinion is mostly based on the picture. If anyone has worn or own these shoes, they can probably chime in.

The shoe in question that injured Rose.....Adidas Rose 3.
http://refinedhype.com/images/uploads/D_Rose_3_3.jpg

It looks like it may be a design issue since it's built to wrap around for feet and ankles. It seems like a tight fit restricting movement. You need some sort of flexibility when you land. Granted, you move your ankle with movement but it's better than no give.
http://i0.wp.com/hypebeast.com/image/2012/11/the-review-adidas-d-rose-3-2.jpg?w=1410
http://i0.wp.com/hypebeast.com/image/2012/11/the-review-adidas-d-rose-3-4.jpg?w=1410

Traction not built well. Given the design and grip your legs get no flexibility during landing which probably cause Rose to blow out his knee.
http://theshoegame.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/adidas-rose-3-shoes-1.jpg

Compare that to Kobes, Lebrons and MJ shoes that use minimal traction but the traction is wider for flexibility.
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/701327/31195763/0/1353888386/2013_zoom_kobe_shoes_hot_new_zoom_kobe_shoes_baske tball_shoes_sport_shoes.jpg
http://www.lebron10ushoesale.com/images/219-New%20Nike%20Zoom%20LeBron%209%20Shoes%20GreenWhit eBlack.jpg

The Rose death trap traction. Very sticky like tires.
http://theshoegame.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/adidas-rose-3-shoes-1.jpg


Rose 3.5 that snapped Ware's legs........
http://7.nicekicks.com/wp/files/2013/01/adidas-Unveils-the-D-Rose-3.5.jpg?c13bc7

Notice the traction of death.
http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/adidasgroup/G59649_01?wid=500&hei=500&fmt=jpeg&qlt=92,0&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=1.1,0.5,1,0

Weak heel support. It locks your heel and ankle and prevents shock to the foot, therefore, impact and shock runs up to your shins and leg.
http://www.the9elements.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/D-Rose-3.5-Home-Hero-5.jpg

[Draz]

Give steph curry a pair lets test them out.

[9erempiree]

Notice the feet and the ankle don't give and there is no movement to release the energy of impact so it worked it's way up to the knees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo1UlzDeY-o

Notice Ware's feet don't give and the shoes just stick to the floor while putting tension and energy up Ware's leg. The shoe is the main culprit again due to traction. Modern shoes are not suppose to have these kind of traction. Adidas should have put more effort in designing how players land and where do they land the most. A rolled ankle is better than a blown out leg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itDNYl2Q1pY

[HardwoodLegend]

The heel region definitely looks suspect.

Most shoes don't go inward in the heel area like that. They actually flare out a bit like the Kobe's.

[9erempiree]

The heel region definitely looks suspect.

Most shoes don't go inward in the heel area like that. They actually flare out a bit like the Kobe's.

Pretty much agree about the heel since it's like your heel is sitting up on a pedestal but we don't know if it sits down below the sole or not. I think it may fit low and snug and prevents motion.

You're pretty much landing flat footed in them.

[Sarcastic]

It can't just be a coincidence that every Adidas athlete gets hurt from knees down.

[HardwoodLegend]

I'm starting to question whether I should even wear adidas Superstars for everyday casual walking. Am I doing my legs damage by rocking these?

http://www.sneakerfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/adidas-originals-superstar-80s-1.jpg

[HardwoodLegend]

Time to make the switch to Margiela Mirror Goldies so I can be on my A$AP I Be Dat Pretty Mothaf*cka shit.

http://media.soletron.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/martin-margiela-mirror-sneakers-1.jpg

[9erempiree]

I'm starting to question whether I should even wear adidas Superstars for everyday casual walking. Am I doing my legs damage by rocking these?

http://www.sneakerfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/adidas-originals-superstar-80s-1.jpg

Love the style but I don't rock any shoes that make you flat footed. I believe those are built like Chuck Taylor's. I love my Chuck's but they make your feet hurt due to lack of support.

Jack Purcell's may be the alternative. They look like Chuck's but gives you that support.

[gasolina]

:facepalm at OP

Rose was wearing a different shoe when he got hurt.


Notice the feet and the ankle don't give and there is no movement to release the energy of impact so it worked it's way up to the knees.
Release the impact? It's either the impact goes to your ankles or knee. There is no way for the force to go away.

Not to mention a lot of athletes have their ankles taped to prevent rolls. I guess that's a death trap too.

As for the traction... i didn't know too much traction was bad for you. Could be the case though. But it was an accident. Nothing you can do about that.

If you think its the shoe's problem, then why are Mike Conley, Tony Allen, Damian Lillard not having problems wearing them?

Also, your Nike bias might be forgetting some lessons from the past...

5. Curry
4. Bogut
3. Roy
2. Oden

&

1. Penny

[9erempiree]

:facepalm at OP

Rose was wearing a different shoe when he got hurt.


Release the impact? It's either the impact goes to your ankles or knee. There is no way for the force to go away.

Not to mention a lot of athletes have their ankles taped to prevent rolls. I guess that's a death trap too.

As for the traction... i didn't know too much traction was bad for you. Could be the case though. But it was an accident. Nothing you can do about that.

If you think its the shoe's problem, then why are Mike Conley, Tony Allen, Damian Lillard not having problems wearing them?

Also, your Nike bias might be forgetting some lessons from the past...

5. Curry
4. Bogut
3. Roy
2. Oden

&

1. Penny

Yes, releasing the impact. Impact and pressure goes upward. Your shoes should be able to absorb the impact and as it moves up it gradually lessens.

There are 3 main critical parts in your leg: ankles, knees and hip.

The shoes were built or designed improperly that it caused both Rose and Ware to only play with 2 critical parts above the ankle. The shoes basically eliminated any leg support besides the ankles. It forced the most on the knees and the area between the ankle and knee, in Ware's case.

The shoes basically turned their legs into knees and hip. So they are essentially playing with two parts. Something had to snap
and no surprise where too.

Both blowing out the same regions of their leg.

BTW...I think Nike's are overpriced and this is coming from a guy that thinks buying $500 shoes is okay. I only buy Nike's from outlets.

[Crystallas]

Why don't you make a list of all the lower body injuries and shoes that were worn. Then you'll see that the shoe has nothing to do with it in any case. 0%, zero. The player that wears the shoe, wears it and knows the shoe. They LIKE the shoe because it matches their needs. Now, contact, athleticism, playing full speed, yeah, that has an impact on injury.

[9erempiree]

Why don't you make a list of all the lower body injuries and shoes that were worn. Then you'll see that the shoe has nothing to do with it in any case. 0%, zero. The player that wears the shoe, wears it and knows the shoe. They LIKE the shoe because it matches their needs. Now, contact, athleticism, playing full speed, yeah, that has an impact on injury.

Yes, the players wear the shoes. They wear it to match their needs and strengths but they will also neglect their weakness.

These are suppose to be performance shoes for superior athletes and I think shoe companies should take that into account.

[Crystallas]

Yes, the players wear the shoes. They wear it to match their needs and strengths but they will also neglect their weakness.

These are suppose to be performance shoes for superior athletes and I think shoe companies should take that into account.


Ohh durr.. yer right. The billions that have gone into this shoe science, and you've gotten it all figured out. :rolleyes:

Maybe you should work for Adidas? Tell them your brilliant ideas. Tell them ISH sent you.

[9erempiree]

Ohh durr.. yer right. The billions that have gone into this shoe science, and you've gotten it all figured out. :rolleyes:

Maybe you should work for Adidas? Tell them your brilliant ideas. Tell them ISH sent you.

I believe there is such a thing as foot science but the guys at Adidas are more designers than scientists.

They really need to hire real scientist.

[L8kersfan222]

The Kobe 8's in OP's post are fake.....

[9erempiree]

The Kobe 8's in OP's post are fake.....

you get the point.

[Go Getter]

Rose wasnt wearing thise shoes when he got hurt and RGIII originally hurt his knee by getting helmet hit there.


Your reasoning is very flawed besides that.

[nathanjizzle]

Rose wasnt wearing thise shoes when he got hurt and RGIII originally hurt his knee by getting helmet hit there.


Your reasoning is very flawed besides that.

stop defending adidas man, they make shitty shoes, and caused d rose 2 seasons of injury.

think about it. d rose was wearing crazylights against indiana in 2011 and twisted his ankle twice. he was wearing his 2s all through 2012 and was constantly injured, then in the playoffs his acl snapped.

[IknowU]

Only on forums where posters disprove years or research and science by posting pretty pictures and words. Maybe email that to Adidas instead and make millions if you think you have it all figured out. :lol

[Go Getter]

stop defending adidas man, they make shitty shoes, and caused d rose 2 seasons of injury.

think about it. d rose was wearing crazylights against indiana in 2011 and twisted his ankle twice. he was wearing his 2s all through 2012 and was constantly injured, then in the playoffs his acl snapped.
No, you think about it. Your claims do not make a strong argument. Your logic is flawed. Everything you presented is purely conjecture, adidas is a huge company, they would recall the shoes before they allowed people to get hurt in them over a design flaw.

Why dont you do me a favor and stop commenting on what I post. I'll leave you be as well. Ain't nobody got time for your dumbass third grade logic you ignorant POS.

[nathanjizzle]

No, you think about it. Your claims do not make a strong argument. Your logic is flawed. Everything you presented is purely conjecture, adidas is a huge company, they would recall the shoes before they allowed people to get hurt in them over a design flaw.

Why dont you do me a favor and stop commenting on what I post. I'll leave you be as well. Ain't nobody got time for your dumbass third grade logic you ignorant POS.

super light shoes = less material. less material = less cushioning. less cushioning= more impact on the bones.

both shoes derrick rose wore when he was injured were designed to be "light"

enough evidence is there. youre just to stupid to realize it.


adidas is a huge company, they would recall the shoes before they allowed people to get hurt in them over a design flaw.

and here is when your stupidity shows. youre comparing normal consumer use to professional use, especially someone who plays like derrick rose. military doesnt require too much brain capacity

[SilkkTheShocker]

Those LeBron IXs are fake, OP.

[Go Getter]

super light shoes = less material. less material = less cushioning. less cushioning= more impact on the bones.

both shoes derrick rose wore when he was injured were designed to be "light"

enough evidence is there. youre just to stupid to realize it.

Yeah so you figured out something the whole adidas staff and the NBAPA couldn't with your deft reasoning skills.


You are the worst type of idiot, secure in your ignorance.

Also, if you think Rose is wearing off the shelf adidas you are mistaken once more you simpleton.

It must suck going through life like you. How did you ever graduate HS with shoddy reasoning skills like this? You need to go back to your hole in the wall school and demand they take you back. You are truly a dolt.

[nathanjizzle]

Yeah so you figured out something the whole adidas staff and the NBAPA couldn't with your deft reasoning skills.


You are the worst type of idiot, secure in your ignorance.

Also, if you think Rose is wearing off the shelf adidas you are mistaken once more you simpleton.

It must suck going through life like you. How did you ever graduate HS with shoddy reasoning skills like this? You need to go back to your hole in the wall school and demand they take you back. You are truly a dolt.

so are adidas shoes "superlight" this year? i think not:roll: i think they figured it out. :facepalm

how much did you have to score on the asvab to get in? :roll:

[Go Getter]

so are adidas shoes "superlight" this year? i think not:roll: i think they figured it out. :facepalm

how much did you have to score on the asvab to get in? :roll:
Thus troll acts like he knows how to report or research statistics. If your claims were true don't you think someone smarter than an Asian kid named "jizzle" would have come out and exposed this information?

D. Rose has high priced lawyers and such, don't you think....wait, you don't think.


Ware hurt himself in the non crazylight adidas that Rose has never worn in a game.


You're retarded.


I scored pretty high on the asvab and they let me go into any career I wanted to....served my country four years (for better or worse at least I tried to contribute to a better country), and am working on my third degree.


What you doin with your life fool?

[gasolina]

super light shoes = less material. less material = less cushioning. less cushioning= more impact on the bones.

both shoes derrick rose wore when he was injured were designed to be "light"

enough evidence is there. youre just to stupid to realize it.



and here is when your stupidity shows. youre comparing normal consumer use to professional use, especially someone who plays like derrick rose. military doesnt require too much brain capacity
You do know that kobe's nike's are lighter than the ones Ware was wearing?

[trig]

I got my worst ankle injury on KB4.

I think the problem with drose was he got hurt a lot and still continue to play. If play through injuries, you tend to favor something.

Like in this case, bad ankles -> focus on ankle support-> transfers the pressure to your knees

[9512]

If you don't think shoe has science behind their design then you are mistaken.

Nike funds a lot research into studies and human movements for athletic performance.

Air bubbles and shox tech is not just gimmicks.

Adidas has not promoted this for their brand but Nike has.

[9erempiree]

If you don't think shoe has science behind their design then you are mistaken.

Nike funds a lot research into studies and human movements for athletic performance.

Air bubbles and shox tech is not just gimmicks.

Adidas has not promoted this for their brand but Nike has.

I agree and this is coming from a guy that has only one pair of Nike for the gym and it's from an outlet.

Nike always seem to promote their technology during releases. You see Kobe talking about the technology in the shoe.


Here is Rose talking about his shoe and notice all he talks about is design where if you search for Kobe shoe releases, Kobe goes into depth and has understanding of what the shoe is all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGFdxbuXRP8

[Djahjaga]

I don't understand. How did the shoe affect his ACL? Or did he just get reinjured in the ankle area?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Thus troll acts like he knows how to report or research statistics. If your claims were true don't you think someone smarter than an Asian kid named "jizzle" would have come out and exposed this information?

D. Rose has high priced lawyers and such, don't you think....wait, you don't think.


Ware hurt himself in the non crazylight adidas that Rose has never worn in a game.


You're retarded.


I scored pretty high on the asvab and they let me go into any career I wanted to....served my country four years (for better or worse at least I tried to contribute to a better country), and am working on my third associate degree.


What you doin with your life fool?
:applause:

[Go Getter]

:applause:
Master's degree fool. Joke about it all you want (not that it makes me any better than anyone) but at least I'm doing something with my life in between message board posts.

What you got going?:coleman:

[Go Getter]

super light shoes = less material. less material = less cushioning. less cushioning= more impact on the bones.

both shoes derrick rose wore when he was injured were designed to be "light"

enough evidence is there. youre just to stupid to realize it.



and here is when your stupidity shows. youre comparing normal consumer use to professional use, especially someone who plays like derrick rose. military doesnt require too much brain capacity
^I've said this multiple times....D. Rose wears a "premuim shoe tailored to his foot. If HE and other pro players were injuring themselves because of the shoe or shoes they would be recalled.

Also, Kobe's shoes are lighter than the most adidas shoes.

Just give up man you keep making strawman arguments and shit....:facepalm

[FreezingTsmoove]

As a former varsity baller I can tell you shoes have a lot to do with injuries. If you are not wearing proper shoes that don't allow you to land properly you are just harming yourself after every jump (it accumulates over time). Like a poster said those air bubbles and shock absorbers are not gimmicks its science

[9512]

As a former varsity baller I can tell you shoes have a lot to do with injuries. If you are not wearing proper shoes that don't allow you to land properly you are just harming yourself after every jump (it accumulates over time). Like a poster said those air bubbles and shock absorbers are not gimmicks its science

Thank you.:cheers:

[FreezingTsmoove]

I don't understand. How did the shoe affect his ACL? Or did he just get reinjured in the ankle area?

Not being able to land properly. Whats absorbing his jump? His knee, ankle, and feet. Especially coming from D Rose who probably practices 8 hrs a day where was the knee support?

[LongLiveTheKing]

At least put real pics of the Lebrons and Kobes, those are fake.

[Tking714]

I am going to be 100% honest and say DO NOT GET THESE SHOES. I have the Adizero 1's and the issue with those is there is no Air Bubble. No matter what these other apparel companies do you cannot beat Nike Air Bubble/Zoom Technology. It adds a cushion of Air. No amount of fabric, plastic, or leather is going to supplement what that air bubble provides.

I bought the Adizero 1's at 50% off from my boy who works at footlocker. So they only ran me 60 bucks as opposed to the 120 they retailed at. Thank goodness they only cost me that much because they are horrible. I ran in them for about a month before i realized they were tearing my toes up from the constant stopping and going; causing them to slide into the front. The material they are made of is similar to that of a cheap plastic chinese toy. So constantly banging your toes into plastic (Yes I had them fit snug, but they are made of hard plastic so they don't wrap around your foot correctly. If you own them you'll know what I mean) There is literally no cushioning on the bottom. Just a slab of plastic. I would literally feel my knees swelling up a few hours afters after I cooled down. They weigh like 9 ounces, that's the only decent feature.

I am 100% certain that Rose's knee troubles were accumulated from running two seasons in those pieces of sh*t (the Adizero 1's and 2's and 2.5s are built similarly). 9 ounces adizero, lightest sneaker, speed increase my ass.

If you value your Knee and ankle structure get Lebrons please.

[nathanjizzle]

As a former varsity baller I can tell you shoes have a lot to do with injuries. If you are not wearing proper shoes that don't allow you to land properly you are just harming yourself after every jump (it accumulates over time). Like a poster said those air bubbles and shock absorbers are not gimmicks its science

this, every nike basketball shoe has shocks or air bubbles in the heal and an air sole in the front to absorb impact.

adidas light made shoes, does not have any of these features.

and we seen what happened to rose in 2012 wearing adidas superlight shoes, overtime he just broke down. all his injuries were stress related, lower back, knees, ankles.

[nathanjizzle]

^I've said this multiple times....D. Rose wears a "premuim shoe tailored to his foot. If HE and other pro players were injuring themselves because of the shoe or shoes they would be recalled.

Also, Kobe's shoes are lighter than the most adidas shoes.

Just give up man you keep making strawman arguments and shit....:facepalm

wow. why would shoes being made to fit the contour of his foot be a point for what your arguing? were talking about the material in the shoes or lack there of.

yes, because professional athlete use is the same as your average joe balling at the park once a week. that would definitely cause adidas to do a massive recall:facepalm and think about it. even if adidas HQ knew these shoes were poor for athletes do you really think they would tell everyone "hey our shoes suck, return them"? :roll:

name 3 athletes besides kobe thats wearing his shoes? i remember 2 seasons ago he was wearing his newly released lowtop hyperdunks? and changed shoes during halftime.

nice try, your points wernt even points. no wonder why youre working on 3 associates degrees.

[NumberSix]

^I've said this multiple times....D. Rose wears a "premuim shoe tailored to his foot. If HE and other pro players were injuring themselves because of the shoe or shoes they would be recalled.

Also, Kobe's shoes are lighter than the most adidas shoes.

Just give up man you keep making strawman arguments and shit....:facepalm
What exactly are these "premium tailored shoes" you speak of? :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

Yeah so you figured out something the whole adidas staff and the NBAPA couldn't with your deft reasoning skills.


You are the worst type of idiot, secure in your ignorance.

Also, if you think Rose is wearing off the shelf adidas you are mistaken once more you simpleton.

It must suck going through life like you. How did you ever graduate HS with shoddy reasoning skills like this? You need to go back to your hole in the wall school and demand they take you back. You are truly a dolt.
Except....... he is. :hammerhead:

Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. You don't. You know god damn well you're just guessing and assuming your guess is right. It's wrong. Derrick Rose's shoes are identical to the ones in your local foot locker.

[Draz]

I'm starting to question whether I should even wear adidas Superstars for everyday casual walking. Am I doing my legs damage by rocking these?

http://www.sneakerfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/adidas-originals-superstar-80s-1.jpg

I don't know why I just hate those pair.

[flipogb]

might as well wear Chucks, damn Adidas has to fix this

[flipogb]

^I've said this multiple times....D. Rose wears a "premuim shoe tailored to his foot. If HE and other pro players were injuring themselves because of the shoe or shoes they would be recalled.

Also, Kobe's shoes are lighter than the most adidas shoes.

Just give up man you keep making strawman arguments and shit....:facepalm

read up on Kobe's shoes and youl know theres a difference in the tech, oh and there are no such thing as tailored shoes for the players, the shoes they wear are the same thing that we can buy at stores. unless you wear the same size as Shaq, you can buy shoes at retail.

[flipogb]

Go Getter, try to post in a sneaker forum and watch them laugh you out of that place

[Go Getter]

Go Getter, try to post in a sneaker forum and watch them laugh you out of that place
I'm not doing the research for you guys but I've seen athletes like Alex Smith for example, get his feet molded when they sign their contract.

You actually think LeBron's shoes are made (the ones he wears) in the same sweatshop yours are?

Of course certain athletes don't but I'm pretty sure the top paid ones get custom orthopedics and molds.

They wouldn't tell the public because thet begs the question, "why am I paying so much for a shoe that is not top of the line already?"

Now, nopussygettingjizzle, this is me drawing a conclusion from different things I've seen....I don't know 100% like you know 100% that adizeros where the cause of Rose's injury.

[Go Getter]

read up on Kobe's shoes and youl know theres a difference in the tech, oh and there are no such thing as tailored shoes for the players, the shoes they wear are the same thing that we can buy at stores. unless you wear the same size as Shaq, you can buy shoes at retail.
The issue wasnt different tech you moron it was weight. Nice sock account btw.

[Jailblazers7]

:oldlol:

I like how people are talking about the physics of jumping impacts based on youtube videos and tread patterns as if they have any idea what they are talking about.

[NumberSix]

I'm not doing the research for you guys but I've seen Alex Smith for example, get their feet molded when they sign their contract.
Well, yeah. When a player has a signature shoe, that shoe is made to that particular player specifications in the first place.

Yeah, Kobe's shoes where designed with a mold of his foot, but the pair of Kobe's you buy at the mall are the exact same shape. Every pair of Kobe 8's on th face of the planet has the same shape (aside from size obviously).

Whether it's Kobe, a kid a the mall or another NBA player, you're all wearing the exact same shape sneaker.

You actually think LeBron's shoes are made (the ones he wears) in the same sweatshop yours are?

LeBron's PE's are made in Taiwan as opposed to the mass market China factory, but besides the sizing tag on the inside, they're the same.

I've had my fair share of samples & PE's in my time. Athletes aren't getting some super special version of the shoe. It's the exact same shoe as in the retail store. Exact same material, exact same shape, padding, etc...

Only difference is a player might get a colorway not made available to the public in order to conform to uniform rules. In a rare case an athlete might get a size that isn't mass produced like 15.5.


Of course certain athletes don't but I'm pretty sure the top paid ones get custom orthopedics and molds.

They wouldn't tell the public because thet begs the question, "why am I paying so much for a shoe that is not top of the line already?"

Any douche-bag in the world can buy some custom orthotics. It's not anything special.

And, Like I said, there's no difference in quality between the shoes LeBron, Kobe or Rose wear on the court and the pair you buy in the stores.

[Heavincent]

If Adidas sneakers were so faulty, I seriously doubt so many players would wear them.

In other words, there's nothing wrong with them.

[9erempiree]

It's laughable at the idea that somebody on here said that the player's shoes are different than those sold on stores. They are all the same. At most, a company will mold the shoe to what the player's want and that's the length they will go.

It would cost the shoe company more money to make a custom pair every game for the player, as some wear new ones every game.

It is much more cost effective to just mold the shoe to the player's foot and sell to the public than having two shoes; consumer shoes and custom shoes for the player.

Even if they did make a shoe customizable to the player and different from the public, the player wearing them can sue or whatever. The shoe company would be at a huge liability.

[Go Getter]

Well, yeah. When a player has a signature shoe, that shoe is made to that particular player specifications in the first place.

Yeah, Kobe's shoes where designed with a mold of his foot, but the pair of Kobe's you buy at the mall are the exact same shape. Every pair of Kobe 8's on th face of the planet has the same shape (aside from size obviously).

Whether it's Kobe, a kid a the mall or another NBA player, you're all wearing the exact same shape sneaker.


LeBron's PE's are made in Taiwan as opposed to the mass market China factory, but besides the sizing tag on the inside, they're the same.

I've had my fair share of samples & PE's in my time. Athletes aren't getting some super special version of the shoe. It's the exact same shoe as in the retail store. Exact same material, exact same shape, padding, etc...

Only difference is a player might get a colorway not made available to the public in order to conform to uniform rules. In a rare case an athlete might get a size that isn't mass produced like 15.5.



Any douche-bag in the world can buy some custom orthotics. It's not anything special.

And, Like I said, there's no difference in quality between the shoes LeBron, Kobe or Rose wear on the court and the pair you buy in the stores.

Like I said I have seen pro athletes get shoes made custom to molds of their feet.

A lot of players where the shoes straight from the development stage. I could see them, and this is elite players, getting shoes made here especially for them.

I don't have any proof but hey neither do you.

[9erempiree]

Like I said I have seen pro athletes get shoes made custom to molds of their feet.

A lot of players where the shoes straight from the development stage. I could see them, and this is elite players, getting shoes made here especially for them.

I don't have any proof but hey neither do you.

no such thing.

If, indeed their shoes are different, most people would come out and say it. Especially the sneaker heads and with the internet today.

A lot of people have been give game worn shoes and people are reporting them and showing them off and they are the same freaking shoe.

You think a shoe company would want to be liable for an athlete if they made custom shoes for them? That would be a disaster.

[9erempiree]

They don't have any custom shoes foool.

[CelticBaller]

All hail Nike

[NumberSix]

Like I said I have seen pro athletes get shoes made custom to molds of their feet.

A lot of players where the shoes straight from the development stage. I could see them, and this is elite players, getting shoes made here especially for them.

I don't have any proof but hey neither do you.
The thing is I DO have proof. As I've already stated, I have numerous pairs of samples and PE's. I'm not guessing like you.

You don't know how the sneaker game works. You're guesses and ramblings aren't changing any minds. Just stop.

[9erempiree]

I'm sure Adidas casuals are ok to wear but don't buy their performance sneakers.

they will f' up your legs and back.

[L8kersfan222]

I think if you wanted to compare by the images you need to put the real shoes so we can see the real tread, and how did you manage 2 fakes?

[Go Getter]

no such thing.

If, indeed their shoes are different, most people would come out and say it. Especially the sneaker heads and with the internet today.

A lot of people have been give game worn shoes and people are reporting them and showing them off and they are the same freaking shoe.

You think a shoe company would want to be liable for an athlete if they made custom shoes for them? That would be a disaster.
More of a disaster than people finding out that adidas promote massive leg and knee injuries? Foh you idiot.

[(e)]

More players get injured wearing Nike...

[9erempiree]

More of a disaster than people finding out that adidas promote massive leg and knee injuries? Foh you idiot.

u mad? Using foul language and name calling.

I don't have a dog in this fight and yes, it would be a disaster for the company to make custom shoes for Rose. Rose is what the shoe is named after.

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[Unstoppabull]

Never tried or had any Aids.

[mattvNJ]

i really think this cant be solely put upon the shoe... lol

i rock crazy lights, have arthritis in my knees, back and ankles and still play in two leagues at school and play pick up about twice-three times a week.

Never had a problem with them...

[Go Getter]

u mad? Using foul language and name calling.

I don't have a dog in this fight and yes, it would be a disaster for the company to make custom shoes for Rose. Rose is what the shoe is named after.

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I'm not mad at you, just at your stark ignorance. Rose wears hybrid shoes that are tailored especially for his feet.

Reebok or whatever made shoes specifically for Yao Ming's biomechanics....why wouldn't they do the same for Rose, a guy they've invested hundreds of millions on?

You sound stupid....I'm not insulting you, I'm DESCRIBING you.

[nathanjizzle]

I'm not mad at you, just at your stark ignorance. Rose wears hybrid shoes that are tailored especially for his feet.

Reebok or whatever made shoes specifically for Yao Ming's biomechanics....why wouldn't they do the same for Rose, a guy they've invested hundreds of millions on?

You sound stupid....I'm not insulting you, I'm DESCRIBING you.

because yao ming is 7'5 and is an abnormal human, ofcourse they need to make special shoes for him. especially when its nknown he has knee problems.

derrick rose is 6'2 size what 12.5, has no chronic issues.

again, another idiotic point you tried to make.

[nathanjizzle]

More players get injured wearing Nike...

good point, sike. maybe because 9out of 10 players wear nike?

[nathanjizzle]

this was a vlog of a girl wearing the adizero 2.5s. the video has been removed since but you can read the qoute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v228c...&feature=inbox

"GUYS! I have been playing in these shoes for about a week now and they are not as comfortable as I expected. I will give it more time to break it but so far I have sore ankles and knees (doing regular training) , so not a good start."

[Go Getter]

because yao ming is 7'5 and is an abnormal human, ofcourse they need to make special shoes for him. especially when its nknown he has knee problems.

derrick rose is 6'2 size what 12.5, has no chronic issues.

again, another idiotic point you tried to make.
Again, this is you reaching and making shallow points like a retard.

Yao had foot problems first off.

I was talking to another poster abuot the shoe companies making custom shoes and not being "held accountable."

Rose is worth 100M+.....his sneakers might be the same materials as the ones on the shelf but they are made specifically for him.

mattvnj JUST stated that he doesn't have any problems in his shoes.....look, you guys are morons, I'm done...I guess you guys have it figured out better than adidas scientists and the NBA.

:facepalm

[9512]

you sure go out of your way to defend adidas.

What's in it for you?

And what's your proof that D Rose gets custom tailored shoes for his on court play?

And LOL @ adidas who hire scientists to design and engineer their shoes.

I have worn adidas and liked their Torsion System (R). But besides that, it's crap.

[mattvNJ]

Again, this is you reaching and making shallow points like a retard.

Yao had foot problems first off.

I was talking to another poster abuot the shoe companies making custom shoes and not being "held accountable."

Rose is worth 100M+.....his sneakers might be the same materials as the ones on the shelf but they are made specifically for him.

mattvnj JUST stated that he doesn't have any problems in his shoes.....look, you guys are morons, I'm done...I guess you guys have it figured out better than adidas scientists and the NBA.

:facepalm

agree.

i mean i can understand their opinion on them being light in padding. But landing and absorbing shock has no been even a small issue and i play nearly every day for an hour or two pick up at my university then intramural in between. They are a tad thin but once broken in i feel i move quicker and have no stability issues despite my chronic knee, ankle and back problems lol.

But yeah, dont sweat it, they're trying to pretend they're scientists or engineers. Yet they have no background on these matters and are just drawing random assumptions fueled by their hate on certain brand or preference to a star and or random secluded injuries.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Don't forget RG3 is also wears adidas.

[Go Getter]

you sure go out of your way to defend adidas.

What's in it for you?

And what's your proof that D Rose gets custom tailored shoes for his on court play?

And LOL @ adidas who hire scientists to design and engineer their shoes.

I have worn adidas and liked their Torsion System (R). But besides that, it's crap.
I'm not going out of my way at all.

I have seen several videos of players getting their foot molded when they sign a shoe contract (I'm not doing the research for you).

Lol@you thinking that the people that design shoes don't have it down to a science.

[Go Getter]

Don't forget RG3 is also wears adidas.
RG3's knee was weakened by a direct hit to it and you could see the leg bow.

It doesn't relate to adidas.

[NumberSix]

I'm not going out of my way at all.

I have seen several videos of players getting their foot molded when they sign a shoe contract (I'm not doing the research for you).

Lol@you thinking that the people that design shoes don't have it down to a science.
Although that is true, the problem is that you don't understand why they even do that.

You don't just take a cast of some players foot and build a 1-to-1 fit. It doesn't work that way. Its just a guideline. Like if a guy has thick ankles, or if his foot is wide or narrow. Its not made to an exact fit. There's a reason why you still have to have wear tests and make adjustments. Most players don't even wear their actual size for game play. Virtually every player in the world sizes up because of the foot/ankle tape, double sock and custom orthotics.

[lilgodfather1]

Not saying you are right, or wrong. What I am saying is this is by far the most thought out post I have ever seen of the OP's. Good job.

Injuries in general can be due to a lot of things. For example if you were to bulk up your arms, chest, and shoulders 10lbs of muscle, but ignore your legs all together, then that increases your chance for injury due to the increased strain on your joints from running and jumping.

Of course you can be born with a higher risk of injury than other people too. Rose may be one of the greatest athletes in history, but that doesn't mean his body isn't fragile. He could have just been born with a higher risk for injury. Hopefully not, but it's certainly possible.

[nathanjizzle]

Again, this is you reaching and making shallow points like a retard.

Yao had foot problems first off.

I was talking to another poster abuot the shoe companies making custom shoes and not being "held accountable."

Rose is worth 100M+.....his sneakers might be the same materials as the ones on the shelf but they are made specifically for him.

mattvnj JUST stated that he doesn't have any problems in his shoes.....look, you guys are morons, I'm done...I guess you guys have it figured out better than adidas scientists and the NBA.

:facepalm


like toyota engineers had it down to a science when engineering the prius? :roll:

you just dispelled your own point about yao ming. :facepalm

[KDthunderup]

Barefoot is the way to go

[nathanjizzle]

agree.

i mean i can understand their opinion on them being light in padding. But landing and absorbing shock has no been even a small issue and i play nearly every day for an hour or two pick up at my university then intramural in between. They are a tad thin but once broken in i feel i move quicker and have no stability issues despite my chronic knee, ankle and back problems lol.

But yeah, dont sweat it, they're trying to pretend they're scientists or engineers. Yet they have no background on these matters and are just drawing random assumptions fueled by their hate on certain brand or preference to a star and or random secluded injuries.

now put 190 pound derrick rose running 16 mph up and down the court with all the torque he has, jumping and landing with 44" vert. add in a gel sole to that shoe that "go getter" desperately thinks is a custom shoe. take in the year of 2012 where he kept getting injured in his ankles, knees, and back, then tore his acl on a JUMP STOP

then its pretty reasonable to theorize that it could have been the flimsy shoes.:facepalm only an idiot would say "no 100 percent not, you guys are idiots"

[KDthunderup]

Just had a huge mind****, I just remembered that the Football boots I were wearing when I tore my ACL were adidas. I 100% agree with this theory, those shoes looked nice and sleak but **** they provided poor balance and stability.

**** adidas, I want compensation.

[mattvNJ]

now put 190 pound derrick rose running 16 mph up and down the court with all the torque he has, jumping and landing with 44" vert. add in a gel sole to that shoe that "go getter" desperately thinks is a custom shoe. take in the year of 2012 where he kept getting injured in his ankles, knees, and back, then tore his acl on a JUMP STOP

then its pretty reasonable to theorize that it could have been the flimsy shoes.:facepalm only an idiot would say "no 100 percent not, you guys are idiots"

im not saying its the case for everyone but i wore them again today and no problemo. I can see your point on that... i feel regardless of the shoe if your a professional athlete moving at the speed they are, making those cuts on a dime like they are having large verticals along with a larger than average frame and muscle mass you are susceptible to injury with any shoe. Were just picking and choosing. Im sure the lightness may have had a slight thing to do with some of these cases. But everyones make assumptions with no basis or legitimate facts except a few cases which can be thrown around for any brand.

I do see your point on their atheltic abilities and size being a large contributor but i dont think the addidas are crap. I rock various ball shoes daily, with a pair of kobe 8's, crazy lights(main shoes for league play) and air zoom pennys from 96'.

Guess im lucky one of the lucky ones? haha

[KDthunderup]

im not saying its the case for everyone but i wore them again today and no problemo. I can see your point on that... i feel regardless of the shoe if your a professional athlete moving at the speed they are, making those cuts on a dime like they are having large verticals you are susceptible to injury with any shoe. Were just picking and choosing. Im sure the lightness may have had a slight thing to do with some of these cases. But everyones make assumptions with no basis except a few cases.

I do see your point on their atheltic abilities and size being a large contributor but i dont think the addidas are crap. I rock various ball shoes daily, with a pair of kobe 8's, crazy lights(main shoes for league play) and air zoom pennys from 96'.

Guess im lucky one of the lucky ones? hahaStop wearing those damn shoes, there is still time

[mattvNJ]

Stop wearing those damn shoes, there is still time


haha i appreciate the warning, hopefully i wont be back in a couple months making this same thread:coleman:

Been a few months since i got them and I dont really have a history of being prone to injury in my past at 6'1" 190.

Injury free for 5 years :cheers:

[9erempiree]

The lighter shoes started with the Hyperdunks, if I remembered correctly. When they were first released, I went and look at a pair and remember vividly how light they were. Over the course of years they designed the Kobe's based off of lightness. Great shoes that was developed over the course of years.

Adidas, a competitor of Nike, decided to follow suit and what better person to make these shoes for than Derrick Rose, their new pitchman. The problem is Adidas didn't put much research and developed these shoes in the first year they signed him.

Is it really a bad shoe? No. I think the Adidas shoe is over-engineered. While it may protect your ankles it failed and neglected the other parts of your leg between the ankles and the knee.

The shoes strap you in as if you only have two critical parts. Knee down to ankles and knee up to your hips. Knee and hips are now your critical parts.

Therefore, shock directly travels to those regions. In Ware's case snapping his leg and Rose blowing out his knee. If there were some movement in the ankle, it can give that flexibility without putting emphasize on other parts of the leg.

Too much engineering.

P.S. I'm a firm believer of low-top playing shoe. Soccer players rarely blow out their knees and they are basically doing the same thing as basketball players.

[monkeypox]

Go getter is right. The top players have shoes that are custom designed for them and them only. They aren't the same as the off the shelf kind. I think they also only wear them once or twice each. Just as long as the outside still looks like the off the shelf kind the shoe company doesn't care. Everything inside is tailor made to whatever the player wants or prefers. I remember this specifically because there was a radio interview with a Laker back in the three peat era and they were talking about how there was a big deal because Kobe's shoes got misplaced. The radio host said "can't you just got to footlocker?" and the player explained lots of players have their shoes custom tailored for them.

It's like bats in baseball. Lots of top players have them custom crafted and they even keep the specs secret from each other.

[gasolina]

OP i think you jinxed it

[Go Getter]

Go getter is right. The top players have shoes that are custom designed for them and them only. They aren't the same as the off the shelf kind. I think they also only wear them once or twice each. Just as long as the outside still looks like the off the shelf kind the shoe company doesn't care. Everything inside is tailor made to whatever the player wants or prefers. I remember this specifically because there was a radio interview with a Laker back in the three peat era and they were talking about how there was a big deal because Kobe's shoes got misplaced. The radio host said "can't you just got to footlocker?" and the player explained lots of players have their shoes custom tailored for them.

It's like bats in baseball. Lots of top players have them custom crafted and they even keep the specs secret from each other.
:bowdown:

Damn, Kobe blew his Achilles in Nikes. Nikes are cursed.

[nathanjizzle]

:bowdown:

Damn, Kobe blew his Achilles in Nikes. Nikes are cursed.

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-660362/pgid-725602
"KOBE'S LIGHTEST AND LOWEST SHOE TO DATE"
:roll:

btw, is it a coincidence that all these players wearing light weight shoes are blowing out there tendons at the end of the season. d rose, shumpert, and now kobe? to much stress on the tendons over the course of a year and at the end of the game. this just stregnthens the argument that adidas light wieght material in there shoes are dangerous

[(e)]

So we had Sizemore and Webb tear ACLs and Kobe blow out his achilles in Nikes this week?

That's rough, definitely the shoes fault.

[nathanjizzle]

So we had Sizemore and Webb tear ACLs and Kobe blow out his achilles in Nikes this week?

That's rough, definitely the shoes fault.

youre not even talking about basketball shoes

[(e)]

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-1/pid-660362/pgid-725602
"KOBE'S LIGHTEST AND LOWEST SHOE TO DATE"
:roll:

btw, is it a coincidence that all these players wearing light weight shoes are blowing out there tendons at the end of the season. d rose, shumpert, and now kobe? to much stress on the tendons over the course of a year and at the end of the game. this just stregnthens the argument that adidas light wieght material in there shoes are dangerous
Shump was wearing Crazy 8s. Don't think I'd classify that as a "light weight shoe".

Getting injured in a crammed schedule like Rose and Shump did, or at the end of a long season like Kobe did is more of a reason as to why they got hurt.

[(e)]

youre not even talking about basketball shoes
No shit?

There isn't a direct relationship from injury to basketball shoes...

The same injuries happen across different sports, all wearing different brands and styles of shoes, and yet they still have similar injuries.

[nathanjizzle]

Shump was wearing Crazy 8s. Don't think I'd classify that as a "light weight shoe".

Getting injured in a crammed schedule like Rose and Shump did, or at the end of a long season like Kobe did is more of a reason as to why they got hurt.

or there shoes failed to have enough cushioning for impact and overtime there tendons weakened. maybe thats why both rose and kobe blew out there tendons at the end of the season, and near the end of the game. adidas are worst though since they dont have airsoles, nike does.

[(e)]

Lol. You don't get it.

[Go Getter]

So we had Sizemore and Webb tear ACLs and Kobe blow out his achilles in Nikes this week?

That's rough, definitely the shoes fault.
Definitely:lol

[LikeABosh]

Kobe wearing them light ass low tops. Everybody gotta go with the Lebron's from now on

[Go Getter]

or there shoes failed to have enough cushioning for impact and overtime there tendons weakened. maybe thats why both rose and kobe blew out there tendons at the end of the season, and near the end of the game. adidas are worst though since they dont have airsoles, nike does.
All Nikes have air soles?

Here I thought Kobes used zoom air, some shoes use lunarlon or whatever, and i think there is one more cushion they use.

[pauk]

Low tops give you more maneuverability, but the risks for injuring stuff around the ankle are a bit greater, if you land on someones foot or so and twist your ankle high-tops wont help you MUCH more either in that scenario, thats not the point... the point is the maneuverability presents more risks for injuries there, its more wear & tear on your ankles aswell, eventually something around there will just... snap....

[dunksby]

Stop being dense, athletes get injured it's one of the risks involved in their trade.

[clayton]

Good thing Kobe has Ankle Insurances.