View Full Version : Biggest chokers of all time (That's what she said)
crisoner
04-05-2013, 04:27 PM
All right....I want to compile a list of the biggest chokers of all time.
I nominate our first player....... Chris Webber
The infamous time out call in college.
Never winning a title with the Kings in the early 2000.
His many disappearances during crunchtime.
Left the Warriors after his Rookie of the Year season due to being afraid of Earthquakes. (He really said that).
Did not want to play in Sacramento at first because of their lack of Soul Food restaurants.
NumberSix
04-05-2013, 04:30 PM
All right....I want to compile a list of the biggest chokers of all time.
I nominate our first player....... Chris Webber
The infamous time out call in college.
Never winning a title with the Kings in the early 2000.
His many disappearances during crunchtime.
Left the Warriors after his Rookie of the Year season due to being afraid of Earthquakes. (He really said that).
Did not want to play in Sacramento at first because of their lack of Soul Food restaurants.
:facepalm
willds09
04-05-2013, 04:31 PM
Tha bitties I be messing with:oldlol:
willds09
04-05-2013, 04:32 PM
Lebron, tmac, cwebb,
crisoner
04-05-2013, 04:34 PM
:facepalm
I expect you to give the old game 6 business.
Answer this...if they were a championship team. Then why did they not win at home during a game 7 in OT no less?
Waiting for your answer.
NumberSix
04-05-2013, 04:41 PM
I expect you to give the old game 6 business.
Answer this...if they were a championship team. Then why did they not win at home during a game 7 in OT no less?
Waiting for your answer.
The :facepalm wasn;'t to get into some big argument. Just :facepalm ing that you would purposely add that knowing exactly what shitstorm it would bring.
TheMarkMadsen
04-05-2013, 04:45 PM
All right....I want to compile a list of the biggest chokers of all time.
I nominate our first player....... Chris Webber
[Left the Warriors after his Rookie of the Year season due to being afraid of Earthquakes. (He really said that).
Did not want to play in Sacramento at first because of their lack of Soul Food restaurants.
How do these 2 things have to do with being a choker?
crisoner
04-05-2013, 04:46 PM
The :facepalm wasn;'t to get into some big argument. Just :facepalm ing that you would purposely add that knowing exactly what shitstorm it would bring.
LMAO
Of course I put that there for the sh*t storm! Somebody has to stir it up!
glidedrxlr22
04-05-2013, 04:50 PM
I expect you to give the old game 6 business.
Answer this...if they were a championship team. Then why did they not win at home during a game 7 in OT no less?
Waiting for your answer.
If they weren't cheated in game 6 there wouldn't be a game 7! This game more than any other I've seen over the past 25 years was the biggest travesty ever.
Legends66NBA7
04-05-2013, 04:54 PM
Every single one of Chris Webber's regular season numbers drops in the playoffs. Granted, some of that has to do with him playing different roles later on in his career, but only 1 memorable playoff run and he's had too many bad games in the playoffs.
It didn't help that injuries cut short his prime.
IGotACoolStory
04-05-2013, 04:56 PM
All right....I want to compile a list of the biggest chokers of all time.
I nominate our first player....... Chris Webber
The infamous time out call in college.
Never winning a title with the Kings in the early 2000.
His many disappearances during crunchtime.
Left the Warriors after his Rookie of the Year season due to being afraid of Earthquakes. (He really said that).
Did not want to play in Sacramento at first because of their lack of Soul Food restaurants.
-Michigan was losing. They played each other earlier in the year on a neutral floor and Michigan won on a buzzer beater by a point. It wasn't exactly David vs. Goliath.
-He travelled seconds before that in the same play.
-Derrick Phelps read that Webber and Rose were only taking in the ball so he told Lynch during a free throw huddle to press and trap if Webber brought it up.
-UNC had a lot of fouls to give so getting a good shot, even if Webber didn't pick up his dribble after crossing halfcourt, wasn't a given.
-However, he still did and was trapped between two of the best defensive players in college basketball and didn't exactly have anywhere to go if he didn't call a timeout.
Point? Really strong chance Michigan still loses the game if he doesn't call a timeout. The timeout just sealed the fate.
ShaqAttack3234
04-05-2013, 04:59 PM
I actually really liked C-Webb's game(increasingly settled for too many jumpers from 2001 on, but still a great player) but he's a valid name to throw into this discussion. The Kings were truly loaded and had C-Webb showed up like Bibby, Sacramento would be champions. Say whatever you want about the officiating, but the fact is, C-Webb didn't step up like his teammate, and in such a close series, that's the biggest difference.
Eddie Jones is another example. A lesser, but a very good 2 guard who rarely played up to his ability in the playoffs, whether it was with LA, Charlotte or Miami.
SilkkTheShocker
04-05-2013, 05:15 PM
All right....I want to compile a list of the biggest chokers of all time.
I nominate our first player....... Chris Webber
The infamous time out call in college.
Never winning a title with the Kings in the early 2000.
His many disappearances during crunchtime.
Left the Warriors after his Rookie of the Year season due to being afraid of Earthquakes. (He really said that).
Did not want to play in Sacramento at first because of their lack of Soul Food restaurants.
I thought he also left GS because Nelson played him at C
PickernRoller
04-05-2013, 05:18 PM
All right....I want to compile a list of the biggest chokers of all time.
I nominate our first player....... Chris Webber
The infamous time out call in college.
Never winning a title with the Kings in the early 2000.
His many disappearances during crunchtime.
Left the Warriors after his Rookie of the Year season due to being afraid of Earthquakes. (He really said that).
Did not want to play in Sacramento at first because of their lack of Soul Food restaurants.
Overtime Game 7 vs. Lakers - chance to tie or go ahead - keeps bricking shot after shot after shot. And people say the series was rigged. Sure Game 6 had a lot of biased calls on Shaq...that's undebatable. The fact that the Kings had more than enough chances to win the series and choked it away is the truth some can't handle.
Runner up: Lebron 2011. And people still claim he was a champ in 2009/2010. Dude came to his senses when he matured in all aspects and become a winner, 2012.
crisoner
04-05-2013, 06:37 PM
-Michigan was losing. They played each other earlier in the year on a neutral floor and Michigan won on a buzzer beater by a point. It wasn't exactly David vs. Goliath.
-He travelled seconds before that in the same play.
-Derrick Phelps read that Webber and Rose were only taking in the ball so he told Lynch during a free throw huddle to press and trap if Webber brought it up.
-UNC had a lot of fouls to give so getting a good shot, even if Webber didn't pick up his dribble after crossing halfcourt, wasn't a given.
-However, he still did and was trapped between two of the best defensive players in college basketball and didn't exactly have anywhere to go if he didn't call a timeout.
Point? Really strong chance Michigan still loses the game if he doesn't call a timeout. The timeout just sealed the fate.
It's a panic move and he carried that out during clutch performances through out his career.
crisoner
04-05-2013, 06:41 PM
2011 was pretty bad
Yeah but LeBron made up for it with 2012.
ripthekik
04-05-2013, 07:06 PM
Lebron
-2011
-Celtics Game 5
-LeQuit
Magic 32
04-05-2013, 07:09 PM
Yeah but LeBron made up for it with 2012.
Made up for it?
It's part of his legacy. Period. The worst choke in NBA history.
Eddie Jones is another example. A lesser, but a very good 2 guard who rarely played up to his ability in the playoffs, whether it was with LA, Charlotte or Miami.
YES.
Nice guy, but he came up lame in the post-season 90% of the time. Eddie was a walking punchline in Miami because of this, not to mention his contract.
esiotrot
04-05-2013, 07:12 PM
Lebron
-2011
-Celtics Game 5
-LeQuit
:coleman: Is this supposed to be evidence?
eurobum
04-05-2013, 07:16 PM
So that really WAS Silk's picture that was posted and then deleted. No wonder he has dat internet arrogance, he's a nerd! Are you Pakistani or Indian?
SpecialQue
04-05-2013, 07:17 PM
Made up for it?
It's part of his legacy. Period. The worst choke in NBA history.
The whole "Tragic Johnson" thing has pretty much been dismissed when ranking Magic. Stop being blinded by your agenda.
willds09
04-05-2013, 07:22 PM
Yeah but LeBron made up for it with 2012.
U mean refs made it up in 2012:oldlol:
Magic 32
04-05-2013, 07:31 PM
The whole "Tragic Johnson" thing has pretty much been dismissed when ranking Magic. Stop being blinded by your agenda.
http://oi45.tinypic.com/mc6hi0.jpg
Rubio2Gasol
04-05-2013, 07:33 PM
I expect you to give the old game 6 business.
Answer this...if they were a championship team. Then why did they not win at home during a game 7 in OT no less?
Waiting for your answer.
Kobe and Shaq
Rubio2Gasol
04-05-2013, 07:38 PM
The whole "Tragic Johnson" thing has pretty much been dismissed when ranking Magic. Stop being blinded by your agenda.
Why should it be dismissed?
Sometimes I genuinely wonder if we supposed to ignore every time Magic fcked up.
BoutPractice
04-06-2013, 07:43 AM
Magic and LeBron's infamous games were real choke jobs, but on the whole, they're two clutch players with more than enough legendary performances in crucial moments to make up for them.
I<3NBA
04-06-2013, 10:05 AM
none of the Kobe nutjobs. they obviously can swallow it whole.
Kobe's legendary 6-24 game. Choking away a series up 3-1, quit on the team in Game 7.
2006suns
04-06-2013, 02:07 PM
according to simmons, it's karl malone. pre-2011 i would've gone with dirk. right now? i guess it's t-mac.
RagaZ
04-06-2013, 02:13 PM
Lebron James 9 turnovers in a elimination game 6 against Celtics 2010.
DaSeba5
04-06-2013, 02:27 PM
Magic and LeBron's infamous games were real choke jobs, but on the whole, they're two clutch players with more than enough legendary performances in crucial moments to make up for them.
This. Although trolling was expected in this thread.
longtime lurker
04-06-2013, 02:32 PM
Chris Webber and Karl Malone seem to top the list here. Can someone enlighten me on this whole Tragic Johnson thing?
Lebron James 9 turnovers in a elimination game 6 against Celtics 2010.
no
All Net
04-06-2013, 02:59 PM
I expect you to give the old game 6 business.
Answer this...if they were a championship team. Then why did they not win at home during a game 7 in OT no less?
Waiting for your answer.
Peja was a big reason for that..
Magic 32
04-06-2013, 08:01 PM
Kobe's legendary 6-24 game. Choking away a series up 3-1, quit on the team in Game 7.
He found a way to score 10 points in the 4th and grab 16 rebounds. And they won.
The Lakers were underdogs in 2006.
Lebron on the other hand had NO excuses...
More talented teammates (all in their prime).
Homecourt advantage.
No mental distractions.
No injuries.
The best performing teammate (Wade).
In his prime.
Had the opportunity in every loss to make a difference in the clutch (all close games), yet failed every single time.
Overall favourites.
Worst Choke Ever!
LilEddyCurry
04-06-2013, 08:04 PM
Unfortunately T-Mac :(
fsvr54
04-06-2013, 08:05 PM
No one talks about C Webb's biggest choking moment, bricking a wide opening potential game winning three in game 7 of the 2004 WCSF.
esiotrot
04-06-2013, 08:08 PM
No one talks about C Webb's biggest choking moment, bricking a wide opening potential game winning three in game 7 of the 2004 WCSF.
Yeah, cause Chris Webber was such a good 3point shooter.
fsvr54
04-06-2013, 08:10 PM
Yeah, cause Chris Webber was such a good 3point shooter.
Good enough to make a wide open trey.
willds09
04-06-2013, 08:13 PM
no
Yes:facepalm
Bandito
04-06-2013, 10:40 PM
Kobe's legendary 6-24 game. Choking away a series up 3-1, quit on the team in Game 7.
Didn't Kobe won that 6-24 game?:biggums:
talkingconch
04-06-2013, 10:45 PM
Kobe's legendary 6-24 game. Choking away a series up 3-1, quit on the team in Game 7.
Thats not a choke on him. Sorry
Beatlezz
04-06-2013, 10:52 PM
Lebron's legendary 8-point performance in the NBA finals. Would've been 6 points if he didn't get 2 free throws for this flop. :roll:
http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif
toooo
04-06-2013, 11:11 PM
Lebron's legendary 8-point performance in the NBA finals. Would've been 6 points if he didn't get 2 free throws for this flop. :roll:
http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif
Fuarrrrrrk. Lol'd at this GIF. Good job. Would rep if I could
ShaqAttack3234
04-06-2013, 11:28 PM
according to simmons, it's karl malone. pre-2011 i would've gone with dirk. right now? i guess it's t-mac.
Dirk's playoff career even pre-2011 featured more impressive play than disappointing playoff. He was always one of the best playoff performers of his era, and had already been to 2 conference finals and a finals, pulled off a few upsets and made it out of the first round 5 of the first 6 seasons he was in the playoffs in a tough Western Conference. He just happened to choke in the finals in 2006 and choke really badly in the first round the next year when Dallas won 67.
T-Mac played very well in the playoffs for the most part, though he wasn't particularly good late in games during the 2002 Charlotte series, iirc, and had the poor game 7s in 2003 and 2005. Can't say he had a bad series during his prime, though, and he went up against superior teams all those years and took two series to 7, which is no small feat with that 2003 Magic team.
jcsrplumply
04-06-2013, 11:53 PM
John Starks game 7 nba finals back in 1994.
Shot 2-18 on the field :rant :rant :rant
DealWithIt
04-07-2013, 12:01 AM
Definitely both Lebron in the 11 finals against the Mavs.
Kobe in the playoffs getting swept by the Mavs too.
Raymone
04-07-2013, 12:04 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
Chris Webber and Karl Malone seem to top the list here. Can someone enlighten me on this whole Tragic Johnson thing?
It was the '84 Finals, and in the crucial moments of a couple of close games Magic made some critical errors contributing to the Lakers losing.
Game 2
[I]In the 4th, L.A. took a 115-113 lead with 18 seconds left. McHale was fouled and had 2 shots. L.A. coach Pat Riley told Magic that he wanted a timeout if McHale made the 2nd shot but Magic misunderstood. After McHale missed both, L.A. called timeout and allowed the Celtics to set up their defense. Magic got the ball to Worthy in the backcourt, but with Magic standing just an arms
jcsrplumply
04-07-2013, 12:13 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
:biggums:
thabisyo
04-07-2013, 12:32 AM
all these stans hating on lebron is annoying to say the very least :facepalm
GOATbrookisGAWD
04-07-2013, 12:35 AM
all these stans hating on lebron is annoying to say the very least :facepalm
All these idiots saying Lebron wasn't at fault for 2011 are a ****ing disgrace and don't know a single thing about basketball :facepalm
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
:roll: future negged
The-Legend-24
04-07-2013, 12:36 AM
Gotta be Lebron, dude lost in the playoffs with HCA like 3 straight times.:oldlol: And he pretty much cost the Heat a title by not even showing up.
NumberSix
04-07-2013, 12:38 AM
Current players
1. Rose
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
thabisyo
04-07-2013, 12:41 AM
All these idiots saying Lebron wasn't at fault for 2011 are a ****ing disgrace and don't know a single thing about basketball :facepalm
Lebron was at fault but honestly, the stans here are just annoying. it difficult to have intellectual conversation with people posting silly comments
DaSeba5
04-07-2013, 12:42 AM
Lebron was at fault but honestly, the stans here are just annoying. it difficult to have intellectual conversation with people posting silly comments
Welcome to ISH bro
BeanBryant
04-07-2013, 12:44 AM
Current players
1. Rose
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
actually it's:
1. Rose
2. Melo
3. LeBron
Beatlezz
04-07-2013, 12:45 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae262/Riggpoppa/m8390y.gif
Jeff, disable the registration, QUICK! :facepalm
Ballin095
04-07-2013, 12:54 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcu3wdQozQ1rpx2ylo1_400.gif
Boomerang
04-07-2013, 01:32 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
I agree. Wade was trying to be the man like in 2006. But he forgot there's a better player than him called Lebron James. Wade forced the issue, which caused Lebron to lose his confidence.
the next season after Wade faced the music, it went all smooth and Lebron DAMINATED
I agree. Wade was trying to be the man like in 2006. But he forgot there's a better player than him called Lebron James. Wade forced the issue, which caused Lebron to lose his confidence.
the next season after Wade faced the music, it went all smooth and Lebron DAMINATED
bandwagon heat fans are the scum of the earth
DaSeba5
04-07-2013, 01:39 AM
bandwagon heat fans are the scum of the earth
Even worse are the gimmick accounts that aren't funny
Raptors fans are fcukin pieces of shit
did that strike a nerve you bandwagon sheep
dh144498
04-07-2013, 02:12 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
Kobe's legendary 6-24 game. Choking away a series up 3-1, quit on the team in Game 7.
:roll:
:biggums:
Mr. Jabbar
04-07-2013, 02:12 AM
Lebron, Vince Carter, on top of my charts.
keepinitreal
04-07-2013, 02:24 AM
[QUOTE=jlip]It was the '84 Finals, and in the crucial moments of a couple of close games Magic made some critical errors contributing to the Lakers losing.
Game 2
[I]In the 4th, L.A. took a 115-113 lead with 18 seconds left. McHale was fouled and had 2 shots. L.A. coach Pat Riley told Magic that he wanted a timeout if McHale made the 2nd shot but Magic misunderstood. After McHale missed both, L.A. called timeout and allowed the Celtics to set up their defense. Magic got the ball to Worthy in the backcourt, but with Magic standing just an arms
crisoner
04-07-2013, 02:24 AM
Kobe's legendary 6-24 game. Choking away a series up 3-1, quit on the team in Game 7.
How is that game 7 a choke when they won?
I'm I missi g something year? He also made key buckets in the 4th and grabbed 16 boards. And what stat won each games of that series??? Rebounds.
And against the Suns the Lakers were huge under dogs that year it was a huge surprise they were up 3-1. Again how would this be labeled a historic choke?
Mr. Jabbar
04-07-2013, 02:30 AM
How is that game 7 a choke when they won?
I'm I missi g something year? He also made key buckets in the 4th and grabbed 16 boards. And what stat won each games of that series??? Rebounds.
And against the Suns the Lakers were huge under dogs that year it was a huge surprise they were up 3-1. Again how would this be labeled a historic choke?
lol, lebron zombies dont understand anything besides a shooting% boxscores, it is what defines them, besides never playing bball in their lives of course.
Lateralus
04-07-2013, 02:36 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
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Kovach
04-07-2013, 03:55 AM
Elvin Hayes trumps everybody.
PickernRoller
04-07-2013, 05:18 AM
Miami's 2011 outcome had nothing to do with LeBron, and everything to do with his teammates and coach.
:biggums:
By the pace he's going he will soon outshine Pauk in the LeQueen Club rankings.
D-Wade316
04-07-2013, 05:50 AM
I agree. Wade was trying to be the man like in 2006. But he forgot there's a better player than him called Lebron James. Wade forced the issue, which caused Lebron to lose his confidence.
the next season after Wade faced the music, it went all smooth and Lebron DAMINATED
Pauk, is this you?:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
joeyjoejoe
04-07-2013, 09:21 AM
Starks for sure, drexler with Houston vs Utah think went 1/13 and Westbrooks 4/20 vs Miami think all were ellimination games
Nero Tulip
04-07-2013, 09:33 AM
Kobe. Worst decision making in close games, which is the definition of choking. Also horrible %
Horatio33
04-07-2013, 10:23 AM
Careers:
Karl Malone, Elvin Hayes, Patrick Ewing. Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain.
Individual games that standout:
LeBron game 5 2010, Finals 2011.
Kobe 1998 3 airball game. 2004 finals. 2006 wcfr game 5, 6, 7. 2008 finals game 4.
Tim Duncan 2005 finals game 5.
Dirk game 3, 4, 5, 6 2006 finals.
Nick Anderson 1996 WCF Free Throws.
Quintilianus
04-07-2013, 10:27 AM
Lebron, Dirk, Wilt, Barkley, Ewing, Malone are easy choices
Magic 32
04-07-2013, 10:59 AM
Kobe 1998 3 airball game
What are talking about?
That was 1997. Kobe was 18!
Horatio33
04-07-2013, 11:29 AM
What are talking about?
That was 1997. Kobe was 18!
well I was doing it off the top of my head. Sorry I got it wrong.
Why do you only defend the Kobe part of the post?
Bandito
04-07-2013, 11:39 AM
Careers:
Karl Malone, Elvin Hayes, Patrick Ewing. Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain.
Individual games that standout:
LeBron game 5 2010, Finals 2011.
Kobe 1998 3 airball game. 2004 finals. 2006 wcfr game 5, 6, 7. 2008 finals game 4.
Tim Duncan 2005 finals game 5.
Dirk game 3, 4, 5, 6 2006 finals.
Nick Anderson 1996 WCF Free Throws.Kobe didn't choke he got owned in the 04 finals.
if wcfr game means first round then Kobe scored 27 on 10-17 and 50 points on game 5 and 6. How is that choking? And Kobe didn't choke game 7 he straight up quit not the same thing.
If you think Timmmy choke game 5 of the finals I :lol at you because they won the whole thing.
Horatio33
04-07-2013, 12:13 PM
If you think Timmmy choke game 5 of the finals I :lol at you because they won the whole thing.
I'm a Spurs fan and Timmy is my favourite player but Horry bailed him out with that amazing game. Timmy was getting shots blocked, was hesitant, and the last second of regulation he missed a point blank put back offensive rebound that would have won the game.
Cliff Paul
04-07-2013, 01:05 PM
No Tracy Mcgrady?
Leviathon1121
04-07-2013, 01:08 PM
Kobe didn't choke he got owned in the 04 finals.
if wcfr game means first round then Kobe scored 27 on 10-17 and 50 points on game 5 and 6. How is that choking? And Kobe didn't choke game 7 he straight up quit not the same thing.
If you think Timmmy choke game 5 of the finals I :lol at you because they won the whole thing.
Doesn't matter who you are, if you blow a 25 point something lead in a game that will tie up the series, at home, you choked...big time.
Boomerang
04-07-2013, 01:17 PM
No Tracy Mcgrady?
:applause: Dude talked about sniffing the second round after being up 3-1. He needs to take some lessons form Lebron.
gengiskhan
04-07-2013, 01:43 PM
Kobe 2004 finals. (the whole finals was choke job)
kobe 2006 first round (talk about choking away series after leadin 3-1)
kobe 2008 finals. ( the infamous 20+ pts lead @ home choked away)
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