Durant now or Wade in '09?

[D.J.]

PPG- Durant(28.4) Wade(30.2)
RPG- Durant(7.9) Wade(5.0)
APG- Durant(4.4) Wade(7.5)
SPG- Durant(1.4) Wade(2.2)
BPG- Durant(1.3) Wade(1.3)

FG%- Durant(50.7) Wade(49.1)
3PT%- Durant(41.4) Wade(31.7)
FT%- Durant(90.7) Wade(76.5)
eFG%- Durant(55.6) Wade(51.6)

PER- Durant(28.0) Wade(30.4)
Off. Rating- Durant(122) Wade(115)
Def. Rating- Durant(100) Wade(105)


Wade was also 3rd in MVP voting, All-NBA 1st team, and All-Defensive 2nd team.

[longhornfan1234]

PPG- Durant(28.4) Wade(30.2)
RPG- Durant(7.9) Wade(5.0)
APG- Durant(4.4) Wade(7.5)
SPG- Durant(1.4) Wade(2.2)
BPG- Durant(1.3) Wade(1.3)

FG%- Durant(50.7) Wade(49.1)
3PT%- Durant(41.4) Wade(31.7)
FT%- Durant(90.7) Wade(76.5)
eFG%- Durant(55.6) Wade(51.6)

PER- Durant(28.0) Wade(30.4)
Off. Rating- Durant(122) Wade(115)
Def. Rating- Durant(100) Wade(105)


Wade was also 3rd in MVP voting, All-NBA 1st team, and All-Defensive 2nd team.

Wade
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[DaSeba5]

http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/files/2009/05/wadecelebrating1.jpg

[Psycho]

Durant has Westbrook to soak up a huge amount of usage rate and can focus on his efficiency. Wade played with scrubs for the most part. Give me Wade.

[red1]

easily dwade

[thabisyo]

come on now. the only thing that 09 wade missed was a championship. that was peak wade or 06 wade depending on how you look at it and it is not fair to compare peak wade with durant at this point

[NumberSix]

Wade. Not even close.

[Droid101]

Durant looks better in pretty much every category that matters.

[thabisyo]

Durant looks better in pretty much every category that matters.

:coleman:


:no:

[Psycho]

Durant looks better in pretty much every category that matters.

Stats don't tell the whole story man. :no:

[Psycho]

:coleman:


:no:

You use too many emotes. :no:

[Psycho]

Durant is a ****in' piece of shit.

You are jealous of his success. No need to be sad friend, one day you'll die and your jealously will no longer exist. :cheers:

[TrueRob]

Wade is better.

[thabisyo]

You use too many emotes. :no:

:lol


here is another special one just for you......:no:

[D.J.]

Durant is a ****in' piece of shit.



Lin is a ****in' piece of shit


Thank you for going into detail.

[red1]

Durant looks better in pretty much every category that matters.
clearly didnt watch any 2009 heat games

[tazb]

Wade by a landslide.

[BlackVVaves]

Durant looks better in pretty much every category that matters.

Wade scored more points, had double the assists, just as efficient, but KD looks better in the categories that matter?

:facepalm

[knicksman]

durant and its not even close. just look at the standings

[knicksman]

Wade scored more points, had double the assists, just as efficient, but KD looks better in the categories that matter?

:facepalm

because scorer plays off the ball not statpad. Just look at how dominant 2nd 3 peat jordan is and tell me how much his apg.

[D-Wade316]

:oldlol: I can name 4 seasons Wade has that's better than the season Durant is currently having(05-06, 08-09, 09-10, 10-11). 06-07 is better too before injury.

[esiotrot]

because scorer plays off the ball not statpad. Just look at how dominant 2nd 3 peat jordan is and tell me how much his apg.

But Wade was scoring more than Durant is now ...

[knicksman]

But Wade was scoring more than Durant is now ...

but the percentages of durant is higher. and look at the off rtg, despite the assists, durant clearly impacts the game more on the offensive side

[D-Wade316]

but the percentages of durant is higher. and look at the off rtg, despite the assists, durant clearly impacts the game more on the offensive side
Off RAPM is a better stat indicating offensive impact. Wade's 09-10 was higher than any of Nash's IIRC. Only Lebron beat him the same year.

[esiotrot]

but the percentages of durant is higher. and look at the off rtg, despite the assists, durant clearly impacts the game more on the offensive side

I'm not denying that Durant is the more efficient, probably better scorer than 09 Wade. But you can't really make the excuse that Durant is a 'scorer' and therefore won't get assists when Wade was scoring more.

[BlackVVaves]

but the percentages of durant is higher. and look at the off rtg, despite the assists, durant clearly impacts the game more on the offensive side

Good thing the game of basketball is only a one sided game.

Oh wait. It isn't you say?

What's that?

Defense?

So, let's get this straight. Wade was the better scorer, better facilitator, and better defender, but because Durant shoot 3s more efficiently, 2013 KD > 2009 Wade.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Breezy]

Wade, and the gap is so vast that it's like comparing the white hot center of a supernova to the incadencent glow of a firefly. To even suggest that it is a contest is equivalent to saying that The collected works of Edgar Allen Poe is pretty close to a prehistoric cave painting. HOW DARE ANYONE suggest that 28.4ppg is even in the same ballpark as 30.2ppg. Or that a P.E.R. of 28 is close AT ALL to 30. It's complete insanity to to compare these two When it's clear that Wade's season was the most monolithic and greatest achievement since Moses parted the red sea and Durant's season is by comparison a missed open layup.....

Come on guys!

[jcsrplumply]

Wade is better at offense and defense in my honest opinion and he does move well off-the-ball so he can be efficient without needing the ball every time.

[D-Wade316]

Off RAPM is a better stat indicating offensive impact. Wade's 09-10 was higher than any of Nash's IIRC. Only Lebron beat him the same year.
Here's the numbers:
05-06
Wade - 6.0
Kobe - 6.8
Lebron - 5.8
Nash - 6.8

06-07
Wade - 7.2
Kobe - 6.3
Lebron - 7.1
Nash - 8.6

08-09
Wade - 7.3
Kobe - 5.4
Lebron - 8.5
Paul - 7.6
Durant - 0.1 :oldlol:

09-10
Wade - 8.2
Kobe - 3.8 :lol
Lebron - 9.2 :eek: :bowdown:
Nash - 6.6
Paul - 5.8
Durant - 4.3

10-11
Wade - 5.5
Kobe - 4.1
Lebron - 5.9
Nash - 6.8
Paul - 6.1
Durant - 4.7

[LEFT4DEAD]

Wade for me too. If Heat won couple of games more he would be most definitely the MVP in that season.
And personally, I would take that Wade's regular season over anybody's else in the last 20 years except for some of Shaq's, Jordan's and maybe toss up with Lebron' seasons. He was unbelievable, Jordanesque.
So many moments that I still remember even if it was only a regular season. He made every Heat game worth of watching.

[Element]

Wade easily, and I mean EASILY

Better playmaker, better ball handler, slightly worse as a scorer (only because you can't look at KD without him getting paraded to the FT line), much better defender, more clutch

How is this close? KD's claim to fame, efficient volume scoring, is only valid because the refs act like he's 170 lbs like Allen Iverson. Except one of the two actually did get pushed around and thrown to the ground...

[D-Wade316]

Btw I 1-starred the thread, OP.

[arifgokcen]

Wade's prime as short as it was easily top 10 of all time.

He was so dominant on both ends of the floor.I still dont get how did they manage to not give him 1st team defense.

He was the rim protector at 6'3-6'4 for that miami team.He was their best at everything.Without him they would be dead last in the league.

Durant is efficient scorer and good rebounder wade has been better at everything else even as a scorer wade was so devastating i remember against boston year after 2008-2009 season he single handedly won a game.It was so impressive.

[Salty]

Easily Durant. In a heartbeat. Younger, better, faster, stronger, taller, and smarter.

Does no one remember that DWade had to put up 22 shots every game in order to get that 30ppg? 22 shots and a 37% usage rate? That's some carmelo anthony-level ball-stopping. He put up a worse offensive AND defensive rating than Durant, half the win shares of Durant, and of course, the dude can't buy a three-point shot, which might be the most important part of a scorer's game in the modern era.

And then the whole "defense" part of the game. DWade is easily one of the most overrated defenders, his only ability is to block shots and gamble on steals...whereas Durant is (quietly) a better shot-blocker and overall defender than Wade ever was, because he's a smarter defender than Wade. Case closed.

[D-Wade316]

Perfect reflection of your intelligence.
He's right though. I fukking hate his "humble" persona. The media love he got, especially last year, was embarassing. :facepalm

[D-Wade316]

Easily Durant. In a heartbeat. Younger, better, faster, stronger, taller, and smarter.

Does no one remember that DWade had to put up 22 shots every game in order to get that 30ppg? 22 shots and a 37% usage rate? That's some carmelo anthony-level ball-stopping. He put up a worse offensive AND defensive rating than Durant, half the win shares of Durant, and of course, the dude can't buy a three-point shot, which might be the most important part of a scorer's game in the modern era.

And then the whole "defense" part of the game. DWade is easily one of the most overrated defenders, his only ability is to block shots and gamble on steals...whereas Durant is (quietly) a better shot-blocker and overall defender than Wade ever was, because he's a smarter defender than Wade. Case closed.
Off and Def Rtg. LAWL.

[Byobob]

I'd pick Wade in '09 over Durant now. I actually liked last season's KD.
This season's Durant imo tries too much on offense like facilitating.

Having said that, the season/post-season ain't over yet. We'll see.
:biggums:

[SeattleSonics]

I'd pick Wade in '09 over Durant now. I actually liked last season's KD.
This season's Durant imo tries too much on offense like facilitating.

Having said that, the season/post-season ain't over yet. We'll see.
:biggums:
So you're saying a KD, still the scoring leader so far this year (averaging MORE PPG than last year) but also averaging more assists and as many rebounds is a bad thing? :biggums: Worst first post ever.

[red1]

Easily Durant. In a heartbeat. Younger, better, faster, stronger, taller, and smarter.

Does no one remember that DWade had to put up 22 shots every game in order to get that 30ppg? 22 shots and a 37% usage rate? That's some carmelo anthony-level ball-stopping. He put up a worse offensive AND defensive rating than Durant, half the win shares of Durant, and of course, the dude can't buy a three-point shot, which might be the most important part of a scorer's game in the modern era.

And then the whole "defense" part of the game. DWade is easily one of the most overrated defenders, his only ability is to block shots and gamble on steals...whereas Durant is (quietly) a better shot-blocker and overall defender than Wade ever was, because he's a smarter defender than Wade. Case closed.
No. Just needed to have watched the games since the answer is obvious enough

[pauk]

Ill go with Durant.

[SeattleSonics]

Ill go with Durant.
Your avy :bowdown:

[Byobob]

So you're saying a KD, still the scoring leader so far this year but also averaging more assists and rebounds is a bad thing? :biggums: Worst first post ever.


Nope. Sorry, I'm not just looking at the stats to fully determine a player's value.
I watch OKC's game this season and compare it to last season's, I'd definitely say that KD is much better last season.

Of course his stats will be better this season compared to last because of the Harden trade.

The '11-'12 KD has a better killer instinct. You just know that it'd be a high percentage shot whenever KD launches it.

[D-Wade316]

Ill go with Durant.
Expected this from you. Proving once again why you're the biggest f@g on this board. :applause:

[red1]

Ill go with Durant.
care to explain why?

[red1]

Expected this from you. Proving once again why you're the biggest f@g on this board. :applause:
His opinion on this subject is irrelevant since we know the fggt will go to the extent of blaming dwade for lebron's 2011 choke. Pauk is always pulling up statistics but he cant even acknowledge that lebron pulled off the biggest statistical failure when he delivered the biggest scoring dropoff in nba history

[SeattleSonics]

Expected this from you. Proving once again why you're the biggest f@g on this board. :applause:
I think your responses in this thread show a different clear front runner.

[Salty]

No. Just needed to have watched the games since the answer is obvious enough

Just go find the torrents, you'll see it with your own eyes. But make sure you ask your parents' permission before you download!

[red1]

Just go find the torrents, you'll see it with your own eyes. But make sure you ask your parents' permission before you download!
Terrible joke you salty hoe. Why are you even giving your opinion on something you know nothing about.

[Salty]

Terrible joke you salty hoe. Why are you even giving your opinion on something you know nothing about.

You didn't even make a joke. Or an argument. You tried to ask a question, but you couldn't even punctuate it.

Look, i know your first time *********ing and first time watching basketball both came in the past 10 years, so you have no historical context for what you are trying to understand...i'll break it down for you: Wade chucking up 22 shots to get a scoring title is nothing. It's what Melo is doing now and it's meaningless.

Durant going for 50/40/90 is historic. It's excellence. Something I can tell you've never experienced.

[SeattleSonics]

Damn I miss Durant :cry:

[red1]

You didn't even make a joke. Or an argument. You tried to ask a question, but you couldn't even punctuate it.

Look, i know your first time *********ing and first time watching basketball both came in the past 10 years, so you have no historical context for what you are trying to understand...i'll break it down for you: Wade chucking up 22 shots to get a scoring title is nothing. It's what Melo is doing now and it's meaningless.

Durant going for 50/40/90 is historic. It's excellence. Something I can tell you've never experienced.
Admit it, you didnt watch one single heat game in 2009. How can someone give an opinion on something when they only have half the picture. I have watched both players play and to anyone who has, it is clear as day. The fact that you are even trying to criticize wade's scoring shows that you don't know shit. 30 points on 22 shots is excellent, how the hell is that chucking? Fcuking dumbass

[Haks]

Wade- better defender playmaker and a slightly worse scorer

[Salty]

Admit it, you didnt watch one single heat game in 2009. How can someone give an opinion on something when they only have half the picture. I have watched both players play and to anyone who has, it is clear as day. The fact that you are even trying to criticize wade's scoring shows that you don't know shit. 30 points on 22 shots is excellent, how the hell is that chucking? Fcuking dumbass

Are you kidding me? I already knew you had no fathom of excellence, but I didn't know it was this bad. If Wade's 30 on 22 is excellent, how hard do you nut when you contemplate Durant is doing 28.4 on 18. Less than two fewer points with more than 4 fewer shots. If '09 Wade is "excellent," '13 KD is god-like.

And the most important part: That was Wade's peak.

KD is 24 and just getting started.

I honestly can't believe you're a non-heat fan and you've been blinded by the dwade parade. Were you actually watching the games back then or just smearing your fecal matter on this forum like all the chumps are nowadays about Melo's "great" 22-shot, 28-point season?

[red1]

Are you kidding me? I already knew you had no fathom of excellence, but I didn't know it was this bad. If Wade's 30 on 22 is excellent, how hard do you nut when you contemplate Durant is doing 28.4 on 18. Less than two fewer points with more than 4 fewer shots. If '09 Wade is "excellent," '13 KD is god-like.

And the most important part: That was Wade's peak.

KD is 24 and just getting started.

I honestly can't believe you're a non-heat fan and you've been blinded by the dwade parade. Were you actually watching the games back then or just smearing your fecal matter on this forum like all the chumps are nowadays about Melo's "great" 22-shot, 28-point season?
You are quite the f*gg*t.

I am convinced that you only looked at scoring stats and did not watch a single heat game for the season we are talking about. There are a few things you need to realize about your flawed argument.

Age is irrelevant when you compare who the better player is for a single season so kd being 24 is not an advantage. Second of all, your entire argument is based on scoring. Now that we got efficient scoring out of the way - something wade also did well since 30 points on 49% is not chucking but rather is excellent and efficient scoring - what else is there to look at. Wade was a much better defender and a much better playmaker, was even more clutch with his timely blocks and steals. kd is a better rebounder as well but wade ultimately has more going for him and anyone who watched would notice who had more impact

[HomieWeMajor]

Wade
Lebron robbed him of the MVP that season

[Salty]

You are quite the f*gg*t.

I am convinced that you only looked at scoring stats and did not watch a single heat game for the season we are talking about. There are a few things you need to realize about your flawed argument.

Age is irrelevant when you compare who the better player is for a single season so kd being 24 is not an advantage. Second of all, your entire argument is based on scoring. Now that we got efficient scoring out of the way - something wade also did well since 30 points on 49% is not chucking but rather is excellent and efficient scoring - what else is there to look at. Wade was a much better defender and a much better playmaker, was even more clutch with his timely blocks and steals. kd is a better rebounder as well but wade ultimately has more going for him and anyone who watched would notice who had more impact


LOL bro! I'm sorry I struck a nerve, but you gotta open your eyes. You can restrict the question any way you want. KD is better now than Wade was in 09. KD is better now than Wade is now. KD will forever be a better basketball player, every day for the rest of eternity.

28.4 points on 40/50/90 is not just excellent but rather spectacular and unprecedented.

KD took every aspect of DWade's game and improved on it. He can get shoot better. He can get to the foul line better. He can block better. He can rebound better. He can play more positions. He can outrun him. He can hold his opponents to a lower PER.

If you weren't blinded by Dwade's balls rubbing against your fluttering eyelids, you might have noticed.

[HomieWeMajor]

:biggums:
Bron was nice that season but Wade was nicer imo

[red1]

LOL bro! I'm sorry I struck a nerve, but you gotta open your eyes. You can restrict the question any way you want. KD is better now than Wade was in 09. KD is better now than Wade is now. KD will forever be a better basketball player, every day for the rest of eternity.

28.4 points on 40/50/90 is not just excellent but rather spectacular and unprecedented.

KD took every aspect of DWade's game and improved on it. He can get shoot better. He can get to the foul line better. He can block better. He can rebound better. He can play more positions. He can outrun him. He can hold his opponents to a lower PER.

If you weren't blinded by Dwade's balls rubbing against your fluttering eyelids, you might have noticed.
it is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about

[Salty]

it is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about

i'll give you an analogy that even you can digest: the difference between KD and Wade is the difference between me and you. I organize my points effectively and efficiently, and you just blindly throw up some scat hoping it will land, and when you don't get your way, you go for the cheap shots and low blows.

No one who actually has watched basketball outside of the '00s would call DWade's '09 season great, let alone better than KD's current year.

[Haks]

LOL bro! I'm sorry I struck a nerve, but you gotta open your eyes. You can restrict the question any way you want. KD is better now than Wade was in 09. KD is better now than Wade is now. KD will forever be a better basketball player, every day for the rest of eternity.

28.4 points on 40/50/90 is not just excellent but rather spectacular and unprecedented.

KD took every aspect of DWade's game and improved on it. He can get shoot better. He can get to the foul line better. He can block better. He can rebound better. He can play more positions. He can outrun him. He can hold his opponents to a lower PER.

If you weren't blinded by Dwade's balls rubbing against your fluttering eyelids, you might have noticed.

Every aspect?
Playmaking?!!! wade is also good 5 inches shorter and averages same amount of blocks and only averages 2.5 less rebound
And lmao he can outrun him:facepalm

[Salty]

Every aspect?
Playmaking?!!! wade is also good 5 inches shorter and averages same amount of blocks and only averages 2.5 more rebound
And lmao he can outrun him:facepalm

true. I exaggerated. Dwade is definitely a better playmaker. No question there.

But he cannot and could never outrun KD. If you were an athlete, you would know how difficult it is to outrun someone that much taller than you.

[entropy35]

I think some people forgot how good 08-09 Wade was.

[red1]

i'll give you an analogy that even you can digest: the difference between KD and Wade is the difference between me and you. I organize my points effectively and efficiently, and you just blindly throw up some scat hoping it will land, and when you don't get your way, you go for the cheap shots and low blows.

No one who actually has watched basketball outside of the '00s would call DWade's '09 season great, let alone better than KD's current year.
you were wrong about everything in your garbage post


LOL bro! I'm sorry I struck a nerve, but you gotta open your eyes. You can restrict the question any way you want. KD is better now than Wade was in 09. KD is better now than Wade is now. KD will forever be a better basketball player, every day for the rest of eternity.

28.4 points on 40/50/90 is not just excellent but rather spectacular and unprecedented.

KD took every aspect of DWade's game and improved on it. He can get shoot better. He can get to the foul line better. He can block better. He can rebound better. He can play more positions. He can outrun him. He can hold his opponents to a lower PER.

If you weren't blinded by Dwade's balls rubbing against your fluttering eyelids, you might have noticed.
no

no. wade is a better slasher

no. wade is better at blocking shots

no. kd gets more total rebounds but dwade is a clutch rebounder and has 3.9 offensive rebounds per game compared to kd's 0.6 pergame

no. wade is faster

no. this is irrelevant since dwade is the better defender

[red1]

I think some people forgot how good 08-09 Wade was.
or in the case of salty they never knew in the first place

[2010splash]

Wade 2009 easily. He was near LeBron's level and dominant at every phase of the game. Durant is too one-dimensional compared to Wade. Wade also had a fraction of the help Durant currently has.

[arifgokcen]

true. I exaggerated. Dwade is definitely a better playmaker. No question there.

But he cannot and could never outrun KD. If you were an athlete, you would know how difficult it is to outrun someone that much taller than you.
i dont even like wade and I know you are trolling and Dude you are stupid being tall generally reduces speed not increase i am not even gonna argue other points because they are just too stupid.

If scoring was everything players like dantley gervin et. would be higher on all time list

[lilgodfather1]

Wade easily. This isn't really a discussion.

[The_Yearning]

Is this a serious question? Even Westbrook this season > Durant.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

That was Wade's BEST season, so yeah, Wade.

[hybridLB]

2nd best player on that 09 Heat team was Haslem..so yeah, WADE for sure.

[secund2nun]

Bron was nice that season but Wade was nicer imo

No he wasn't. Lebron had better stats, a better record, and actually won a playoff series that season. Lebron's was clearly superior in every aspect.

[Papaya Petee]

Wade was the best player that year. Durant is not.

[Nash]

Wade.

[LoneyROY7]

Wade, and it's not really close.

[Cliff Paul]

I'll take Wade. For some reason, I never had the feeling that Durant was unstoppable whenever he's playing my team. He doesn't quite have that fear factor. I tremble in fear when Kobe or Wade play against my team. Not Durant tho.

Durant's a better rebounder thanks to his length, and a better shooter, whether it's mid range, 3 point or Free throw. But that's about it, I feel like Vintage D-Wade was the better all around player.

[Frozen1]

When Heat second best player was Michael Beasley, you can tell that Wade season was 100 times better.

For Wade, it was 2 options: score 30 and 8, or lose.

Thunder without Durant would be at least third seed on the West. And somethimes i think Westbrook outplays him.

[tomkiddo91]

Give me Wade. He was insane that season, and deserved better than the piece of trash roster he had. Not 100% sure but I think that was the season he had a real nice mid-range game too?

[Ikill]

Easily Durant. In a heartbeat. Younger, better, faster, stronger, taller, and smarter.

Does no one remember that DWade had to put up 22 shots every game in order to get that 30ppg? 22 shots and a 37% usage rate? That's some carmelo anthony-level ball-stopping. He put up a worse offensive AND defensive rating than Durant, half the win shares of Durant, and of course, the dude can't buy a three-point shot, which might be the most important part of a scorer's game in the modern era.

And then the whole "defense" part of the game. DWade is easily one of the most overrated defenders, his only ability is to block shots and gamble on steals...whereas Durant is (quietly) a better shot-blocker and overall defender than Wade ever was, because he's a smarter defender than Wade. Case closed.
faster :wtf: Durant isn't even faster than current Wade let alone peak Wade

[Frozen1]

Are you kidding me? I already knew you had no fathom of excellence, but I didn't know it was this bad. If Wade's 30 on 22 is excellent, how hard do you nut when you contemplate Durant is doing 28.4 on 18. Less than two fewer points with more than 4 fewer shots. If '09 Wade is "excellent," '13 KD is god-like.

And the most important part: That was Wade's peak.

KD is 24 and just getting started.

I honestly can't believe you're a non-heat fan and you've been blinded by the dwade parade. Were you actually watching the games back then or just smearing your fecal matter on this forum like all the chumps are nowadays about Melo's "great" 22-shot, 28-point season?

First it was the Kobetards, then Lebrontards, now Durantards.

I will ask you one question. Why the hell wade would shoot less if he was the only star on his team??? Even "chucking" 22 shots, he did it in 50% fg with 7.5 assits per game. Durant is very lucky to have a great team in his young age, so he just can pad his fg%, just like lebron. Oh, and he scores 28 on only 18 shots, but with 10 ft per game.

[Just2McFly]

It's easily Wade. WTF

[shady6121]

Wade >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Durant

Durant is a scrub without the excessive number of free throws he gets every game.

/thread

[eSOL]

Wade > Durant


And its not even close.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Dwyane Wade and it's not even remotely close.

[Bigsmoke]

i dont know guys.

I like Wade but dude didn't do all that well in the playoffs... vs the Hawks from all teams.

how about yall let the season and playoffs end first. Amare basically had a better season than Dirk did so does that mean 2011 Amare > 2011 Dirk?

not to mention that the Heat weren't even all dat good. maybe a 37 win team if they were playing in the West

[red1]

i dont know guys.

I like Wade but dude didn't do all that well in the playoffs... vs the Hawks from all teams.

how about yall let the season and playoffs end first. Amare basically had a better season than Dirk did so does that mean 2011 Amare > 2011 Dirk?

not to mention that the Heat weren't even all dat good. maybe a 37 win team if they were playing in the West
Well how far do you expect them to go, that was the definition of a one-man team. Prime jordan wouldnt do shit with that team.

[shady6121]

Well how far do you expect them to go, that was the definition of a one-man team. Prime jordan wouldnt do shit with that team.

This.

[Bigsmoke]

Well how far do you expect them to go, that was the definition of a one-man team. Prime jordan wouldnt do shit with that team.

Jordan would beat the Hawks.

[red1]

Jordan would beat the Hawks.
Probably not

[Jolokia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7TaKnZ6uSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3ra53D5qmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjKej92KcQs

[SilkkTheShocker]

Its absolutely terrible how underrated a player D-Wade is.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Jordan would beat the Hawks.

The Hawks are pretty garbage, wouldn't doubt it.

[Just2McFly]

Jordan would beat the Hawks.
he'd beat better playoff teams by himself?:wtf:

[Suckafree]

Wade without even having to think twice. Who was his 2nd option? A rookie Beasley?

08-09 was the only year where Lebron has had a real challenger for his mvp crown. If you a put another decent player on this team to get them another 5-8 more wins, D-wade is likely winning MVP. Lebron was in godmode this year, but D-Wade was playing just as well.

KD is yet to reach the level that wade was playing at in 09. In saying that, KD has time on his side

[Ikill]

Jordan would beat the Hawks.
Wade would too if he wasn't dealing with back spasms

[tmacattack33]

09 Wade. Much better all around player and also was proven to be capable of running a team...Westbrook runs the show a lot for OKC.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Durant is the better scorer due to his shooting ability from everywhere, length and ability without the ball, but not that much due to Wade's ability off the dribble, explosiveness at the rim and because his mid-range game was great all season. Lets not forget Wade averaged 34/5/8 on 51/37/81 shooting after the all-star break that year.

As overall players, the advantage clearly shifts in Wade's favor. Durant has rebounding, but Wade was a vastly superior passer and playmaker despite Durant's improvements and definitely the better defender. Those gaps outweigh any advantage Durant has as a scorer.