The 2013 Heat or the 2008 Celtics

[Bigsmoke]

I know the season isn't over yet but the Heat are looking to win 66 games like the Celtics did in 2008.

Who u think would win in a 7 game series and why.:confusedshrug:

[WayOfWade]

That's tough. The 2008 Celtics were special, all their big three were great, yet past their peaks, yet were all perfect keeping their egos in check. I'll just do a position by position breakdown.
Rondo > Chalmers
Allen < Wade
Pierce < James
Garnett >> Haslem/Battier
Perkins < Bosh
Pretty even starting lineups, but in the end, I'll go with the Heat, I've seen them "flip the switch" so many times this season, and it is incredible how good they are.
I may be biased because I'm a Heat/Wade fan, and I only ever watched highlights of the 08' Finals (became obsessed with NBA in 09').

[FreezingTsmoove]

Why don't we wait for the 1st round to be over first :facepalm

67 win Mavs won more games and we all know what happened.

lol bucks tho

[Electric Slide]

whoever has HCA wins.

[PickernRoller]

Celtics - no need to engage in a 7 page, time consuming argument that leads to nothing.

[TerranOP]

I feel like the 2008 Celtics are one of the more overrated championship teams. They needed 7 games to beat both Atlanta AND Cleveland, which isn't the hallmark of a great team. They were prone to lapses of focus, and despite being a great defensive team they were almost beaten 1v5 by Lebron. The 2013 Heat are on another level right now, and they would win in 5 or 6.

[arifgokcen]

Why don't we wait for the 1st round to be over first :facepalm

67 win Mavs won more games and we all know what happened.

lol bucks tho
While you are partially right,that mavs team struggled against GSW this miami team beat down every opponents they faced convincingly.

Though still we should wait

[SamuraiSWISH]

I feel like the 2008 Celtics are one of the more overrated championship teams. They needed 7 games to beat both Atlanta AND Cleveland, which isn't the hallmark of a great team. They were prone to lapses of focus, and despite being a great defensive team they were almost beaten 1v5 by Lebron. The 2013 Heat are on another level right now, and they would win in 5 or 6.
I'm starting to feel the same, actually.

Think about it, they turned on the jets in February and went on a tear. What if they chose to do that from the very start of the season?

It seems like they've been coasting, and they are about to match the 2008 Celtics season. And I'm sure they won't struggle like the 2008 Celtics in the playoffs.

[PJR]

I feel like the 2008 Celtics are one of the more overrated championship teams. They needed 7 games to beat both Atlanta AND Cleveland, which isn't the hallmark of a great team. They were prone to lapses of focus, and despite being a great defensive team they were almost beaten 1v5 by Lebron. The 2013 Heat are on another level right now, and they would win in 5 or 6.

Well said.

[Lebron23]

Let's see in the playoffs. The Eastern Conference is much better this year. The Knicks and Pacers are better than the 08 Hawks and 08 Cavaliers.

[UnbiasedFan]

It would be weird seeing two Ray Allens in one court :lol

[imdaman99]

i dont know, didnt the cavs take them to 7 games down to the wire? if we're gonna go by that, the heat would win.
but we all know it doesn't work that way. i say celtics in 6 or 7. that celtics team was stacked, james posey and tony allen off the bench, better versions of shane battier :eek:

[inclinerator]

i think the miami heat have to much firepower, their defense are better than those cavs the celts face also, also lebron is a much much much improve version of his 08 self

[leMVP]

Pre-peak leBron took the 2008 celtics to 7 games by himself!!

Peak leBron would destroy them alone!!

[clayton]

Boston was overrated, and Heat is relevant thanks to ref.

[CelticBaller]

Boston was overrated, and Heat is relevant thanks to ref.
is that kobe in you're avatar :oldlol:

[Derka]

Boston's bench that year murders the Heat's bench of 2013. And I'm not sure this Bosh handles that KG very well.

[Bigsmoke]

Boston's bench that year murders the Heat's bench of 2013. And I'm not sure this Bosh handles that KG very well.

The Heat's bench isn't too shabby either unlike it was in 2011

[DMAVS41]

We have to see what happens, but I'd take this Heat team quite easily over the 08 Celtics.

[DMAVS41]

Boston's bench that year murders the Heat's bench of 2013. And I'm not sure this Bosh handles that KG very well.

Then just have Lebron guard him at times...

[willds09]

none:oldlol:

[albas89]

Pre-peak leBron took the 2008 celtics to 7 games by himself!!

Peak leBron would destroy them alone!!

Like he did in 2010...:facepalm

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Let's see in the playoffs. The Eastern Conference is much better this year. The Knicks and Pacers are better than the 08 Hawks and 08 Cavaliers.

a 2 and 3 seed are better than a 4 and 8 seed?

The Celtics with 2013 small ball rules (House-Allen-Pierce-Posey-Garnett) would be an incredibly dangerous team.

[Bigsmoke]

a 2 and 3 seed are better than a 4 and 8 seed?

The Celtics with 2013 small ball rules (House-Allen-Pierce-Posey-Garnett) would be an incredibly dangerous team.

that was the lineup the Celtics had out that had the Lakers lose a 20+ lead. :lol

[jzek]

Why don't we wait for the 1st round to be over first :facepalm

67 win Mavs won more games and we all know what happened.

lol bucks tho

Yeah, MIA has a chance of losing the first round.... NOT! :facepalm

[RagaZ]

An Past-prime version of this Celtics were 8 minutes from beating this Heat team in june.

Its easy to look at talent, but Playoff Series' about mental strength. And Celtics has a advantage.

[All Net]

Logic says If Lebron could take celtics to the limit with just him in 08 what could this team do against them? Miami come playoff time play great defense too. So defensively it wouldn't be one sided.

[All Net]

Boston's bench that year murders the Heat's bench of 2013. And I'm not sure this Bosh handles that KG very well.

Miami bench is pretty damn good this year actually.

[PJR]

An Past-prime version of this Celtics were 8 minutes from beating this Heat team in june.

Its easy to look at talent, but Playoff Series' about mental strength. And Celtics has a advantage.

And a worse version of this Heat team in terms of depth and chemistry, smacked the Celtics in 5 games in 2011. :confusedshrug:

2013 Miami Heat have defending champion swagger. I wouldn't say mental strength is an issue with this team at all.

[Thechosen1]

that celtic team would have destroyed the heat

[Shade8780]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.

[r15mohd]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.


Wasn't Bosh absent for a lot of last years Celtic series...and Wade on one-leg?

[Kingwillball]

Imo this potentially is the best team since the Bulls championship teams. Take nothing away from the Celtics, Lakers, Spurs championship teams of past of recent past but none of them went on a 35-1 streak with starters playing. I know Miami didn"t break record but only legit loss while big 3 were playing was to Bulls. Of course none if this will matter if they dont win championship.

[Kingwillball]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.

Rondo wasnt as good and would Allen be on both teams ?

[arifgokcen]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.
Both wade and bosh was injured.Both very significant injuries and bosh didnt even play until last game.

Moreover 2012 miami team is much different than 2013 team.

They have one of the best benches in the league.They have a second big that they can count on.They have some of the best 3pt shooters in the game and most importantly they are completely healthy.

I am not gonna spectulate over who is gonna win but it would be wrong to base your predictions on wrong assumptions

[All Net]

Wasn't Bosh absent for a lot of last years Celtic series...and Wade on one-leg?
Yeah people seem to be forgetting Bosh didn't return until game 6 and obviously was nowhere near 100%

[Harison]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.

Actually, old and injured 2012 Celtics would have beaten Miami if not refs, what to speak of what 2008 Celtics can do. They had one of the best defenses ever, and more well-rounded offense than Heat does.

[no pun intended]

It would be weird seeing two Ray Allens in one court :lol
I see this all the time.

In 2K13.

[Nash]

People say Miami are overrated yet shit like this comes up which makes you think they are underrated. Really, really? Boston were great but Miami are one of the best teams ever with Lebron playing on a historical level.

[RagaZ]

People say Miami are overrated yet shit like this comes up which makes you think they are underrated. Really, really? Boston were great but Miami are one of the best teams ever with Lebron playing on a historical level.
Heat needed refs to win the title in a lockout-season.

Celtics won fair and square.

[DMAVS41]

Actually, old and injured 2012 Celtics would have beaten Miami if not refs, what to speak of what 2008 Celtics can do. They had one of the best defenses ever, and more well-rounded offense than Heat does.

Yea. Let's ignore that Bosh played 3 games in that series...2 of 3 he went 3 for 8 and had virtually no impact.

That team...with an injured Bosh...simply isn't what this hypothetical is about. It's about a healthy team...this team right now. They also have a better team this year than last year...with Andersen and Allen.

[TerranOP]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.

If you want to play that game, I can do the same thing. If LeBron could take the 2008 Celtics to 7 games on that terrible Cavs team, then the '13 Heat would murder them.

[Derka]

Miami bench is pretty damn good this year actually.
Against this league, sure.

Against the 2008 Celtics? Not happening.

edit: people who want to keep bringing Bosh being not at 100% into this are killing me. The Heat were not any more or less injured than the Celtics in that series and you're just making excuses if you believe otherwise.

[DaSeba5]

Heat needed refs to win the title in a lockout-season.

Celtics won fair and square.

No they didn't. The refs didn't blowout OKC in game 5. The refs didn't shoot all of the 3s Miami made in that series.

[2010splash]

2008 Celtics are a joke compared to the 2013 Heat. Don't forget how they got taken to 7 games by the 37-win Hawks and the one-man show 45-win Cavs. Better than a team that went on a 27-game winning streak and has the #1 offense in the entire league? Led by probably the second greatest player ever? Yeah right.

To put it into perspective, LeBron with scrubs took that 2008 Celtics team to 7 games. Now you're asking what LeBron with Wade, Bosh, Allen and the best 3-pt shooting team in the league would do. Easy win for the Heat.

[DaSeba5]

I find it amusing that many people always say this Heat team is one of the most stacked teams in history, if not the most stacked team ever, to discredit LeBron, but then when people start comparing them to other championship teams they always pick the other team instead. Seems like every past championship team would own this "stacked" team. :lol

[daj0264]

Wasn't Bosh absent for a lot of last years Celtic series...and Wade on one-leg?


excuses excuses

[Bigsmoke]

If an old injured 2012 Celtics can bring Miami to 7 games, than '08 Celtics would definitely beat them.

.....and u dont think this current Heat team is even better than the one from last year :wtf:

[Bigsmoke]

excuses excuses

lol The Heat still won didn't they?

they won the series by double digits in the finals 2 games and the championship after that.

[D.J.]

'08 Celtics. They had a 98.9 defensive rating in the regular season(1st in the league) and 103.5 in the playoffs(only Cleveland was better). Plus you have to remember that Boston's big 3 was healthy at that point. KG was 1 year removed from 22/13/4. Ray 1 year removed from 26/5/4. Pierce was 1 year removed from 25/6/4. But they had solid defense off the bench(Tony Allen, Posey, Big Baby, Powe) and veteran leadership off the bench in Cassell and P.J. Brown.

[chazzy]

I think people are putting too much stock in those early round playoff series. It creates faulty arguments.. are the 09 Lakers not that great because Yao-less Rockets pushed them to 7?

[TerranOP]

I think people are putting too much stock in those early round playoff series. It creates faulty arguments.. are the 09 Lakers not that great because Yao-less Rockets pushed them to 7?


I don't think that's a fair comparison. That's the Houston team that won 22 games in a row during the season, and they were playing ridiculously well. That Houston team also matched up very well against the Lakers because they had an effective, quick PG in Aaron Brooks. Atlanta was playing nowhere near that level, nor did they have a particularly demonstrative match-up advantage against the Celtics. If you watched the Hawks-Celtics series in '08, Boston lost focus on a number of occasions.

You might be able to say that this was a fluke if not for what happened the very next round. This time, it's not like they "turned it on" and stomped the Cavs in game 7. They needed P.J. Brown to hit some clutch shots in crunch time, which is never something a championship team should have to rely on. Paul Pierce and LeBron both played great that game, and in the end Boston barely executed better, but there is no reason that they should've taken 14 games to get through the first two rounds.

[veilside23]

08 celtics really ... they also happen to beat the texas triangle just didnt have that winning stretch the heat had but bosh and and company wont touch the 08 kg.

and posey and tony allen would give wade some problems while perk would just be perk :P we are also forgetting the toughness and hassle of pj brown.

[Derka]

2008 Celtics are a joke compared to the 2013 Heat. Don't forget how they got taken to 7 games by the 37-win Hawks and the one-man show 45-win Cavs. Better than a team that went on a 27-game winning streak and has the #1 offense in the entire league? Led by probably the second greatest player ever? Yeah right.

To put it into perspective, LeBron with scrubs took that 2008 Celtics team to 7 games. Now you're asking what LeBron with Wade, Bosh, Allen and the best 3-pt shooting team in the league would do. Easy win for the Heat.

What paints you as an idiot here is that the Celtics struggled with the Hawks and Cavs and then dominated the Pistons and Lakers, significantly better teams and you're ignoring that, I see, because it doesn't float with this abortion you're passing off as an argument.

[crisoner]

2002 Lakers over both.

2010 Lakers over both as well.

[Electric Slide]

I don't think that's a fair comparison. That's the Houston team that won 22 games in a row during the season, and they were playing ridiculously well. That Houston team also matched up very well against the Lakers because they had an effective, quick PG in Aaron Brooks. Atlanta was playing nowhere near that level, nor did they have a particularly demonstrative match-up advantage against the Celtics. If you watched the Hawks-Celtics series in '08, Boston lost focus on a number of occasions.

You might be able to say that this was a fluke if not for what happened the very next round. This time, it's not like they "turned it on" and stomped the Cavs in game 7. They needed P.J. Brown to hit some clutch shots in crunch time, which is never something a championship team should have to rely on. Paul Pierce and LeBron both played great that game, and in the end Boston barely executed better, but there is no reason that they should've taken 14 games to get through the first two rounds.
You have the wrong Rockets team.

[305Baller]

Daaaaaaaaaaa Heats.

[Killbot]

2008 Celtics.

Celtics can't stop Lebron, but they can make sure the other Heat players get locked down. 1 man can't win a series against a championship team.

[G-train]

The Heat were not any more or less injured than the Celtics in that series and you're just making excuses if you believe otherwise.

That's garbage, Bosh is one of the best big men in the league, Bradley a role player. Ray Allen played with a sore ankle but Wade needed knee surgery.

[G-train]

People don't realise just how good this Heat team is.
When it's all said and done I won't be surprised if its one of the top 3 or 4 best teams ever, and threads like this will be long forgotten.

[PickernRoller]

No they didn't. The refs didn't blowout OKC in game 5. The refs didn't shoot all of the 3s Miami made in that series.

Refs missed a foul on a game winning shot in GM 2. All that needs to be said. Lets not get started in the Celtics Series - That Series should have been done by GM 5 if it weren't for the refs.

[G-train]

Refs missed a foul on a game winning shot in GM 2. All that needs to be said. Lets not get started in the Celtics Series - That Series should have been done by GM 5 if it weren't for the refs.

Lame.

[PickernRoller]

Lame.
:pimp:

[PJR]

Refs missed a foul on a game winning shot in GM 2. All that needs to be said. Lets not get started in the Celtics Series - That Series should have been done by GM 5 if it weren't for the refs.

Please spare us your nonsense.

[PickernRoller]

Please spare us your nonsense.

You're not a class troll by any means yourself. No one gives a shit that cHeat fans can't handle The Truth.

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[Vertical-24]

Boston was overrated, and Heat is relevant thanks to ref.

The overrated Boston Celtics sure did a good job of keeping Kobe and co. in check :applause:

Kobe didn't have room to breathe that series :lol

Anyways, the 08 Celtics were the superior defensive team. Thibodeau did wonders as defensive coordinator. Their NBA Finals run definitely showed that. '13 Heat have a better bench, better all-around athletic team, the best player in the world, and would probably have more ref help.

I'd say 2013 Heat in 6.

[Fox]

Heat got to 66 wins. IF they win the title this year combined with that impressive regular season (27 game win streak etc), you can certainly make the argument that the 2013 Heat are better than the 2008 Celtics.

[Solefade]

any team that needs a lebron to score 35/5/5 to win isn't that good lol


2008 c's > 2013 heat

[DaOldLion]

HEAT would crush the Celtics in 4 with Lebron dominating as he always does

[mr.big35]

2008 celtics had the worst playoff road record

[TheMarkMadsen]

any team that needs a lebron to score 35/5/5 to win isn't that good lol


2008 c's > 2013 heat

When did 2013 Lebron average that in the playoffs? :lol