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NewYorkNoPicks
04-16-2013, 12:12 AM
With Anthony expected to sit out Wednesdays game against the Hawks Durant would need roughly 70 points in his final game to tie Melo.

2012-13 NBA Scoring Champion, Carmelo Anthony.

First Knick to do so since Bernard King in 1985

andgar923
04-16-2013, 12:13 AM
I hope he goes for it.

Electric Slide
04-16-2013, 12:14 AM
at least he'll finally have an argument as the best scorer opposed to he has cool moves.

Uncle Wes
04-16-2013, 12:15 AM
Well deserved :applause:

shady6121
04-16-2013, 12:16 AM
I think Durant's going to sit out the final game of the season for the Thunder since they've already clinched the #1 seed in the WCF.

leMVP
04-16-2013, 12:16 AM
Durant won't play, OKC already clinched the #1 seed, so scott brooks would surely rest the starters for the playoffs.

Congrats to melo,he's too good at scoring.

Michael_Wilbon
04-16-2013, 12:17 AM
Hell yeah! The greatest scorer in the world will have his scoring title, finally!

Leftimage
04-16-2013, 12:18 AM
Great season by Melo. :applause:

Like Lebron, Carmelo has aged gracefully... and we are reminded that 30, not 25, is the age closest to when healthy players are likely to peak. Something to keep in mind for the younger stars.

OldSkoolball#52
04-16-2013, 12:19 AM
Happy for him altho Id laugh hysterically if Durant really went for 70.

Funny thing is Durant is one of the few guys who could do it while not blatantly looking like hes chucking, but he doesnt have that selfish showboating mindset. I dont think he cares bout the scoring title.

Still hope it happens for the comedy tho.

NewYorkNoPicks
04-16-2013, 12:19 AM
at least he'll finally have an argument as the best scorer opposed to he has cool moves.

Horrible logic people use on this forum.

Same garbage people say about Derek Jeter for not having a regular season MVP. Well if you finish in the top 5 of MVP VOTING about 10 times and youre off by a few votes here and there the award itself is nothing more than a formality and not an indicator of talent

DaSeba5
04-16-2013, 12:20 AM
Congratz to Melo. Well deserved.

OldSkoolball#52
04-16-2013, 12:20 AM
I think Durant's going to sit out the final game of the season for the Thunder since they've already clinched the #1 seed in the WCF.


Damn :(

Michael_Wilbon
04-16-2013, 12:21 AM
Happy for him altho Id laugh hysterically if Durant really went for 70.

Funny thing is Durant is one of the few guys who could do it while not blatantly looking like hes chucking, but he doesnt have that selfish showboating mindset. I dont think he cares bout the scoring title.

Still hope it happens for the comedy tho.

Durant would need 40 fta to score 70 pts hahaha. Not happening :oldlol:

Michael_Wilbon
04-16-2013, 12:22 AM
Congratz to Melo. Well deserved.

Dude you are easily the best Heat fan on this board. Props to you for not being a sh!t head. :applause:

leMVP
04-16-2013, 12:23 AM
Durant would need 40 fta to score 70 pts hahaha. Not happening :oldlol:

Imagine KD in Blue and Gold uniform, he can really avg 20ft/game LOL

selrahc
04-16-2013, 12:24 AM
nobody cares. not hard to win the scoring title when you play no defense.

shady6121
04-16-2013, 12:25 AM
Horrible logic people use on this forum.

Same garbage people say about Derek Jeter for not having a regular season MVP. Well if you finish in the top 5 of MVP VOTING about 10 times and youre off by a few votes here and there the award itself is nothing more than a formality and not an indicator of talent

This.


Congratz to Melo. Well deserved.

You're one of the few true/good Heat fans on this board.

Michael_Wilbon
04-16-2013, 12:26 AM
nobody cares. not hard to win the scoring title when you play no defense.

That's hilarious coming from a Kobe stan :oldlol:

Trentknicks
04-16-2013, 12:26 AM
nobody cares. not hard to win the scoring title when you play no defense.
Actually he's been a decent defender this year and has been really good at times against opposing PF's, stay mad though.

Defense is more of Kobe's Achilles heel this year, oh wait :roll:

jimmy77x
04-16-2013, 12:27 AM
nobody cares. not hard to win the scoring title when you play no defense.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

WayOfWade
04-16-2013, 12:29 AM
Good Job MarshMelo, I was rooting for him to get it over KD.

mjokc
04-16-2013, 02:40 AM
I'm glad KD gave it to him this year and is focused on getting a championship.

inclinerator
04-16-2013, 02:43 AM
is westbrook resting? or is he gonna keep his streak

jimmy77x
04-16-2013, 02:49 AM
I'm glad KD gave it to him this year and is focused on getting a championship.

People are just going to hate melo no matter what. Now the excuse for him winning is Durant " Gave it to him", guy won it fare and square :facepalm

RoundMoundOfReb
04-16-2013, 02:50 AM
:applause:

plowking
04-16-2013, 02:51 AM
Melo is a joy to watch on the offensive end. I think most people in this thread can say they've gone out to the basketball courts and tried to practice the way he shoots his jumpshot, since its the prettiest one in basketball. At least in my opinion.

Congrats on the scoring title, but does anyone actually know the minimum amount of games required to be in the running? Melo has only played something like 70 games this year? It must be around 80% of the total games?

RoundMoundOfReb
04-16-2013, 02:55 AM
Melo is a joy to watch on the offensive end. I think most people in this thread can say they've gone out to the basketball courts and tried to practice the way he shoots his jumpshot, since its the prettiest one in basketball. At least in my opinion.

Congrats on the scoring title, but does anyone actually know the minimum amount of games required to be in the running? Melo has only played something like 70 games this year? It must be around 80% of the total games?
i think it's a minimum of 1400 total points or 60 some-odd games.

jdm_dc_fan
04-16-2013, 02:59 AM
People are just going to hate melo no matter what. Now the excuse for him winning is Durant " Gave it to him", guy won it fare and square :facepalm
To be honest KD changed his game slightly. looks to pass more than ever because of the attention he draws from the defense. Melo on the other hand shoots over 2 defenders. And Westbrook. lol

Trentknicks
04-16-2013, 03:01 AM
Melo is a joy to watch on the offensive end. I think most people in this thread can say they've gone out to the basketball courts and tried to practice the way he shoots his jumpshot, since its the prettiest one in basketball. At least in my opinion.

Congrats on the scoring title, but does anyone actually know the minimum amount of games required to be in the running? Melo has only played something like 70 games this year? It must be around 80% of the total games?
His running pull up jumper :bowdown: so fluid.

LosScandalous
04-16-2013, 03:05 AM
:applause: Hopefully he win MVP too

Scholar
04-16-2013, 03:06 AM
Happy for him altho Id laugh hysterically if Durant really went for 70.

Funny thing is Durant is one of the few guys who could do it while not blatantly looking like hes chucking, but he doesnt have that selfish showboating mindset. I dont think he cares bout the scoring title.

Still hope it happens for the comedy tho.

Did you just start watching basketball? Do you not realize it was just last season that KD intentionally played the final game of the regular season just to outscore Kobe for the scoring title?

Yeah, he cares. He just knows this year wasn't his.

Carmelo took it.

Crafty
04-16-2013, 03:07 AM
Finally, the best scorer on the league gets the scoring title

Legends66NBA7
04-16-2013, 03:09 AM
Congrats on the scoring title, but does anyone actually know the minimum amount of games required to be in the running? Melo has only played something like 70 games this year? It must be around 80% of the total games?

He has to play in 85% of the games this season, so he qualifies.

Bernard King won his lone scoring title playing in only 55 games.

Fudge
04-16-2013, 03:09 AM
Did you just start watching basketball? Do you not realize it was just last season that KD intentionally played the final game of the regular season just to outscore Kobe for the scoring title?

Yeah, he cares. He just knows this year wasn't his.

Carmelo took it.
:oldlol:

Y2Gezee
04-16-2013, 03:11 AM
He has to play in 85% of the games this season, so he qualifies.

Bernard King won his lone scoring title playing in only 55 games.


85%? I thought it was less. Well that, or you get enough points to qualify. Like Rondo did, he has the assists title.

Legends66NBA7
04-16-2013, 03:14 AM
85%? I thought it was less. Well that, or you get enough points to qualify. Like Rondo did, he has the assists title.

You're right, I'm off.

I at times go by Yahoo's stats and it says 85%, so I thought that was the qualification, but the Rondo thing just throws that out the door.

AirMike
04-16-2013, 04:25 AM
Well deserved, congratz :applause:

jcsrplumply
04-16-2013, 04:45 AM
I'm glad KD gave it to him this year and is focused on getting a championship.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

shady6121
04-16-2013, 04:54 AM
Did you just start watching basketball? Do you not realize it was just last season that KD intentionally played the final game of the regular season just to outscore Kobe for the scoring title?

Yeah, he cares. He just knows this year wasn't his.

Carmelo took it.

This.

dunksby
04-16-2013, 04:54 AM
Congratz to Melo.

dunksby
04-16-2013, 04:56 AM
Did you just start watching basketball? Do you not realize it was just last season that KD intentionally played the final game of the regular season just to outscore Kobe for the scoring title?

Yeah, he cares. He just knows this year wasn't his.

Carmelo took it.
Actually Durant was not concerned about it this year, he did last season though to get the 3 consecutive mark thing I guess.

iamgine
04-16-2013, 04:58 AM
Great season by Melo. :applause:

Like Lebron, Carmelo has aged gracefully... and we are reminded that 30, not 25, is the age closest to when healthy players are likely to peak. Something to keep in mind for the younger stars.
It's more inbetween that. 27ish.

Harison
04-16-2013, 05:09 AM
Grats, well deserved :applause:

Clutch
04-16-2013, 05:31 AM
Best scorer in the league :bowdown:

Collie
04-16-2013, 05:31 AM
He's played 67 games, what's the minimum to qualify for scoring champ?

Edit: Just saw, 70 games or 1400 points. Guess he does win it.

russwest0
04-16-2013, 06:15 AM
Did you just start watching basketball? Do you not realize it was just last season that KD intentionally played the final game of the regular season just to outscore Kobe for the scoring title?

Yeah, he cares. He just knows this year wasn't his.

Carmelo took it.

No, KD didn't care. KD hasn't been shot jacking at all like Melo has recently. Melo has been shooting over 8 more shots a game than Durant in April. KD's already got 3 scoring titles, he doesn't care at this point. He's coming off his first finals loss and wants to get back and win this time.

wfb
04-16-2013, 06:24 AM
Kudos to Melo! :rockon:

Patrick Chewing
04-16-2013, 06:37 AM
No, KD didn't care. KD hasn't been shot jacking at all like Melo has recently. Melo has been shooting over 8 more shots a game than Durant in April.


Yeah cause KD's been playing second fiddle to Westbrook as of late. Melo may be taking more shots, but he's the only viable superstar on that team as opposed to OKC. He may be shot jacking as you say, but a majority of them are going in.

All Net
04-16-2013, 06:54 AM
Congrats melo...

Rubio2Gasol
04-16-2013, 06:55 AM
:applause:

zass
04-16-2013, 07:06 AM
How many points will KD need to win if Melo doesnt play Wednesday?

maybeshewill13
04-16-2013, 07:13 AM
Only reason Fatmelo can win is because GOATbrook is such a machine too :bowdown:

mjokc
04-16-2013, 07:19 AM
People are just going to hate melo no matter what. Now the excuse for him winning is Durant " Gave it to him", guy won it fare and square :facepalm

Nobody is hating on Melo, KD even said himself that he isnt worried about the scoring title and that Melo can have it. KD focuses on passing more to set his teammates up. Melo is a great scorer and it's cool that he got the scoring title.

Trentknicks
04-16-2013, 07:26 AM
Nobody is hating on Melo, KD even said himself that he isnt worried about the scoring title and that Melo can have it. KD focuses on passing more to set his teammates up. Melo is a great scorer and it's cool that he got the scoring title.
While I agree with what you said here, Durant did say it at a time when Melo had a 0.3 advantage with a few games to play. Durant probably wanted to seem humble and not be called out again for chucking for the title.

dunksby
04-16-2013, 07:28 AM
While I agree with what you said here, Durant did say it at a time when Melo had a 0.3 advantage with a few games to play. Durant probably wanted to seem humble and not be called out again for chucking for the title.
It was Melo who chucked his way to the title, not that there is anything wrong with it, he averaged more points and he got it. End of story.

mjokc
04-16-2013, 07:31 AM
While I agree with what you said here, Durant did say it at a time when Melo had a 0.3 advantage with a few games to play. Durant probably wanted to seem humble and not be called out again for chucking for the title.

Durant could have had that scoring title locked up if he just chucked more during the season instead of trying to set his teammates up.

miller-time
04-16-2013, 07:36 AM
How many points will KD need to win if Melo doesnt play Wednesday?

77 points minimum. The thing is Durant has actually scored 360 more points this season.

Element
04-16-2013, 07:40 AM
Melo chucked his way to it? Lol look at his TS% recently. And he also sat out during blowouts. So no, he hasn't really chucked for it.

What's wrong with it anyway? What happened to the days of D.Rob going for 70 just to edge out Shaq? That's competitive spirit, not some fake humble too cool for scoring title shi.t.

JohnnySic
04-16-2013, 07:49 AM
Nice accomplishment. :applause:

But the Knicks are still gonna get punked by the C's. :D

zass
04-16-2013, 08:31 AM
77 points minimum. The thing is Durant has actually scored 360 more points this season.

Thanks

David Robinson and Co did it once (71 points) in his last game to win over... Shaq?

it'd be silly to see this kind of arrangement today.:lol

Crafty
04-16-2013, 08:36 AM
77 points minimum. The thing is Durant has actually scored 360 more points this season.
On Gametime they said it was 70

niko
04-16-2013, 08:42 AM
Nice accomplishment. :applause:

But the Knicks are still gonna get punked by the C's. :D
Did you enjoy seeing the Celtics win the Atlantic in that game in Boston like you said they would? OH WAIT...

Clutch
04-16-2013, 08:45 AM
On Gametime they said it was 70
Yeah,it's 70. I just calculated. Still not going to happen,I don't think Durant will even play in the last game.

Crafty
04-16-2013, 08:48 AM
Yeah,it's 70. I just calculated. Still not going to happen,I don't think Durant will even play in the last game.
If it was like 30 points we would. No way he will score that many

Blue&Orange
04-16-2013, 08:55 AM
It was Melo who chucked his way to the title, not that there is anything wrong with it, he averaged more points and he got it. End of story.

Melo first player since jordan to score at least 40 points on >60% for 3 straight games.
Melo first player since Shaq to score at least 31 points and 8 rebounds in 5 straight games.


What your butthurt sorry ass calls chucking, i call dominating.

DMAVS41
04-16-2013, 09:01 AM
Great regular season for Melo.

This is a make or break post season for him in my opinion...at least for my thoughts about him.

He's been awful in the playoffs for his career for a player of his stature...no excuses this year.

miller-time
04-16-2013, 09:22 AM
Yeah,it's 70. I just calculated. Still not going to happen,I don't think Durant will even play in the last game.

Actually yes it is 70. I was rounding up to the nearest .1

willds09
04-16-2013, 10:50 AM
carmelo deserves it:applause:

iDunk
04-16-2013, 11:20 AM
Melo's probably gonna play tomorrow.

He can net an easy 20 in 25 min.

ShaqAttack3234
04-16-2013, 11:48 AM
Great season by Melo. :applause:

Like Lebron, Carmelo has aged gracefully... and we are reminded that 30, not 25, is the age closest to when healthy players are likely to peak. Something to keep in mind for the younger stars.

Well, for years players have usually peaked around 27-28 except for when injuries derail their careers.

Jordan was 28 in 1991, Shaq was 28 in 2000, Ewing was 27 in 1990, Magic was 27 in 1987, KG was 27 in 2004, Moses was 28 in 1983, Wade was 27 in 2009, Pippen was 28 in 1994, Chris Webber was 27 in 2000 ect.

Most players peak around 27-28 because they still have most of their athleticism and stamina, but have had years to develop their skills, learn the game and mature.

Players who have peaked earlier like Penny, Walton, T-Mac and now more recently, Dwight Howard were affected by injuries.


I'm glad KD gave it to him this year and is focused on getting a championship.

Gave it to him? Melo averaged 37 ppg in April on 54% shooting.


While I agree with what you said here, Durant did say it at a time when Melo had a 0.3 advantage with a few games to play. Durant probably wanted to seem humble and not be called out again for chucking for the title.

Durant actually said he didn't care about it when he was still a bit ahead of Melo. I think it was after Melo's 50 and 40.


It was Melo who chucked his way to the title, not that there is anything wrong with it, he averaged more points and he got it. End of story.

Melo didn't chuck his way to the scoring title. He got ridiculously hot in the Miami game and remained hot until the Bulls game.



What's wrong with it anyway? What happened to the days of D.Rob going for 70 just to edge out Shaq? That's competitive spirit, not some fake humble too cool for scoring title shi.t.

Nah, that's just stat-padding. Much better for players to focus on simply winning games, especially on 50+ win teams like both Durant and Melo play on.

Draz
04-16-2013, 12:05 PM
Well, for years players have usually peaked around 27-28 except for when injuries derail their careers.

Jordan was 28 in 1991, Shaq was 28 in 2000, Ewing was 27 in 1990, Magic was 27 in 1987, KG was 27 in 2004, Moses was 28 in 1983, Wade was 27 in 2009, Pippen was 28 in 1994, Chris Webber was 27 in 2000 ect.

Most players peak around 27-28 because they still have most of their athleticism and stamina, but have had years to develop their skills, learn the game and mature.

Players who have peaked earlier like Penny, Walton, T-Mac and now more recently, Dwight Howard were affected by injuries.



Gave it to him? Melo averaged 37 ppg in April on 54% shooting.



Durant actually said he didn't care about it when he was still a bit ahead of Melo. I think it was after Melo's 50 and 40.



Melo didn't chuck his way to the scoring title. He got ridiculously hot in the Miami game and remained hot until the Bulls game.



Nah, that's just stat-padding. Much better for players to focus on simply winning games, especially on 50+ win teams like both Durant and Melo play on.

:applause:

Congratulations to melo. He deserves in. Put on a great performance for us Knicks fans. Make or break post season here he comes.

Jlamb47
04-16-2013, 12:10 PM
:rockon:

ShaqAttack3234
04-16-2013, 12:13 PM
:applause:

Congratulations to melo. He deserves in. Put on a great performance for us Knicks fans. Make or break post season here he comes.

It is very important for this team to make it the ECF going forward. Expecting more than that would be a real stretch, but winning the series with HCA advantage and getting that far with all of the injuries would be really nice to build off of going forward. Especially being able to fill in some holes, primarily in the frontcourt.

kurple
04-16-2013, 12:35 PM
well done melo :applause:

always believed you were able to do this. back when the people acting like they love you now, were calling you ***** and ******

dunksby
04-16-2013, 12:58 PM
Melo first player since jordan to score at least 40 points on >60% for 3 straight games.
Melo first player since Shaq to score at least 31 points and 8 rebounds in 5 straight games.


What your butthurt sorry ass calls chucking, i call dominating.
I LMAO whenever someone posts this kinda arbitrary bullshit stats to prove a point :roll:

Legends66NBA7
04-16-2013, 01:02 PM
I LMAO whenever someone posts this kinda arbitrary bullshit stats to prove a point :roll:

Yeah, there's no point to arbitrary facts.

However, he is right that Melo didn't chuck to a title. He did do what was best for the team.

Blue&Orange
04-16-2013, 01:08 PM
I LMAO whenever someone posts this kinda arbitrary bullshit stats to prove a point :roll:
I LMAO every time i own somebody as badly as i owned you :roll:

Legends66NBA7
04-16-2013, 01:39 PM
I LMAO every time i own somebody as badly as i owned you :roll:

You didn't "own" anybody.

WWRWestbrookDo?
04-16-2013, 01:47 PM
great season by melo

KG215
04-16-2013, 02:06 PM
First off, I don't think Durant just let Carmelo have the scoring title. I don't think Durant cared much whether he won it or not, but I don't think he just conceded it to Carmelo. If you watched OKC the last couple of weeks, you could see he was more focused on winning and getting the 1-seed, and I think he was trying to make a point about something a couple of games by going for a triple-double. Not that he set out from the opening tip to get a triple-double, but he spent an inordinate amount of time in the 4th quarter trying to get the last assist or two to get the triple-double. Fortunately they came in comfortable wins so it wasn't really hurting the team.

And I'm not trying to say Carmelo wasn't focused on winning. Also, with how insanely hot he got, I'm not sure Durant could've won the scoring title if he had decided to shoot a little more.

I do think if you look at the numbers, though, there is some merit to Durant not caring too much about not winning. In April he's averaging 26.1 PPG on 15.9 FGA compared to 36.9 PPG on 26.5 FGA, for Melo. So even if Durant was taking 7-10 more shots per game, I'm not sure he could've averaged another 8-10 PPG to keep pace with Carmelo.

Carmelo deserves the credit for winning the title, and not with the disclaimer of "Durant let him have it." I bugged the shit out of me last year when all the Kobe stans kept saying Kobe let Durant win the scoring title, and it looks and sounds just as foolish to say the same thing about Durant letting Melo win it this year.

jimmy77x
04-16-2013, 04:57 PM
First off, I don't think Durant just let Carmelo have the scoring title. I don't think Durant cared much whether he won it or not, but I don't think he just conceded it to Carmelo. If you watched OKC the last couple of weeks, you could see he was more focused on winning and getting the 1-seed, and I think he was trying to make a point about something a couple of games by going for a triple-double. Not that he set out from the opening tip to get a triple-double, but he spent an inordinate amount of time in the 4th quarter trying to get the last assist or two to get the triple-double. Fortunately they came in comfortable wins so it wasn't really hurting the team.

And I'm not trying to say Carmelo wasn't focused on winning. Also, with how insanely hot he got, I'm not sure Durant could've won the scoring title if he had decided to shoot a little more.

I do think if you look at the numbers, though, there is some merit to Durant not caring too much about not winning. In April he's averaging 26.1 PPG on 15.9 FGA compared to 36.9 PPG on 26.5 FGA, for Melo. So even if Durant was taking 7-10 more shots per game, I'm not sure he could've averaged another 8-10 PPG to keep pace with Carmelo.

Carmelo deserves the credit for winning the title, and not with the disclaimer of "Durant let him have it." I bugged the shit out of me last year when all the Kobe stans kept saying Kobe let Durant win the scoring title, and it looks and sounds just as foolish to say the same thing about Durant letting Melo win it this year.

:applause:

dekciw
04-16-2013, 05:45 PM
Congrats to Melo, deep down I wish Durant would of gunned for it, would of loved to see a battle between the two for the title but in the end I'm not sure it would of mattered. Melo has been shooting insanely well. Props to him.

The Ownage
04-16-2013, 06:19 PM
First off, I don't think Durant just let Carmelo have the scoring title. I don't think Durant cared much whether he won it or not, but I don't think he just conceded it to Carmelo. If you watched OKC the last couple of weeks, you could see he was more focused on winning and getting the 1-seed, and I think he was trying to make a point about something a couple of games by going for a triple-double. Not that he set out from the opening tip to get a triple-double, but he spent an inordinate amount of time in the 4th quarter trying to get the last assist or two to get the triple-double. Fortunately they came in comfortable wins so it wasn't really hurting the team.

And I'm not trying to say Carmelo wasn't focused on winning. Also, with how insanely hot he got, I'm not sure Durant could've won the scoring title if he had decided to shoot a little more.

I do think if you look at the numbers, though, there is some merit to Durant not caring too much about not winning. In April he's averaging 26.1 PPG on 15.9 FGA compared to 36.9 PPG on 26.5 FGA, for Melo. So even if Durant was taking 7-10 more shots per game, I'm not sure he could've averaged another 8-10 PPG to keep pace with Carmelo.

Carmelo deserves the credit for winning the title, and not with the disclaimer of "Durant let him have it." I bugged the shit out of me last year when all the Kobe stans kept saying Kobe let Durant win the scoring title, and it looks and sounds just as foolish to say the same thing about Durant letting Melo win it this year.
Great post.

TheMarkMadsen
04-16-2013, 06:28 PM
Melo can finally claim he is the best scorer in the game

Big Cheese
04-16-2013, 06:29 PM
congratz now you will finally have more than 1 patch :applause:

The-Legend-24
04-16-2013, 06:31 PM
It's pretty obvious Durant gave him the scoring title, same way Kobe did last season.

DonDadda59
04-16-2013, 06:33 PM
Congrats to Melo, he got hot as the sun down the stretch :applause:

Would be hilarious to see KD pull a Robinson though :oldlol:

oamjad13
04-16-2013, 09:46 PM
Well deserved Melo. Been a treat to watch him play this season. Hope he has some big games against the Celtics.

ClutchOver9000
04-16-2013, 10:18 PM
First off, I don't think Durant just let Carmelo have the scoring title. I don't think Durant cared much whether he won it or not, but I don't think he just conceded it to Carmelo. If you watched OKC the last couple of weeks, you could see he was more focused on winning and getting the 1-seed, and I think he was trying to make a point about something a couple of games by going for a triple-double. Not that he set out from the opening tip to get a triple-double, but he spent an inordinate amount of time in the 4th quarter trying to get the last assist or two to get the triple-double. Fortunately they came in comfortable wins so it wasn't really hurting the team.

And I'm not trying to say Carmelo wasn't focused on winning. Also, with how insanely hot he got, I'm not sure Durant could've won the scoring title if he had decided to shoot a little more.

I do think if you look at the numbers, though, there is some merit to Durant not caring too much about not winning. In April he's averaging 26.1 PPG on 15.9 FGA compared to 36.9 PPG on 26.5 FGA, for Melo. So even if Durant was taking 7-10 more shots per game, I'm not sure he could've averaged another 8-10 PPG to keep pace with Carmelo.

Carmelo deserves the credit for winning the title, and not with the disclaimer of "Durant let him have it." I bugged the shit out of me last year when all the Kobe stans kept saying Kobe let Durant win the scoring title, and it looks and sounds just as foolish to say the same thing about Durant letting Melo win it this year.

:applause:

treadster
04-16-2013, 10:22 PM
and knicks fan finally have something to brag about melo

secund2nun
04-16-2013, 10:32 PM
The guy 44.9 percent and needs 22.2 shots to score 28.7 ppg. He is nowhere near the best scorer.

jimmy77x
04-16-2013, 10:39 PM
The guy 44.9 percent and needs 22.2 shots to score 28.7 ppg. He is nowhere near the best scorer.

u mad?

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secund2nun
04-16-2013, 11:27 PM
u mad?

http://d22zlbw5ff7yk5.cloudfront.net/images/stash-1-510326e83921d.gif

Lebron and Durant are far superior scorers. Not even NY fans can deny this fact. Melo is just being overrated because he is playing for the gigantic market of NY.

Amar'e_Juwanna
04-16-2013, 11:31 PM
Lebron and Durant are far superior scorers. Not even NY fans can deny this fact. Melo is just being overrated because he is playing for the gigantic market of NY.

interesting quandary we have here... the post you responded to is the correct response to your post! IT NEVER STOPS

Buckshot
04-16-2013, 11:43 PM
Thank you Melo

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

MeLO MvP 15
04-16-2013, 11:51 PM
Congrats.

But from the sound of Woodson's recent quote he's gonna play the starters in Atlanta. I'd guess he'd limit their minutes which actually hurts Melo's scoring average because instead of sitting the game out and staying even, he'll probably play 20 minutes and he'd have to score a decent amount not bring it down. But from a team perspective, it does make sense. I mean, we're gonna have at least Thursday and Friday off anyways, only give Wednesday off to the guys with injuries (even minor ones). Although personally I'd just rest Ray, Melo, Kidd (who I think is going to rest) and JR along with Kenyon and Tyson. Let White, Cope, QRich, Shump and Novak play 30+ min. Try to somehow limit Pablo's minutes which will be hard with so many people sitting out.

Buckshot
04-16-2013, 11:53 PM
Brought it back to the East

Droid101
04-16-2013, 11:55 PM
Melo can thank the Kobesystem. Just as everyone else does.

Lebron23
04-17-2013, 12:05 AM
Put that award in Carmelo's All Star Jacket next year

7x NBA All star, 1x NBA Scoring Champion.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDVxYOACQAAYsZl.jpg

Trentknicks
04-17-2013, 12:09 AM
Congrats.

But from the sound of Woodson's recent quote he's gonna play the starters in Atlanta. I'd guess he'd limit their minutes which actually hurts Melo's scoring average because instead of sitting the game out and staying even, he'll probably play 20 minutes and he'd have to score a decent amount not bring it down. But from a team perspective, it does make sense. I mean, we're gonna have at least Thursday and Friday off anyways, only give Wednesday off to the guys with injuries (even minor ones). Although personally I'd just rest Ray, Melo, Kidd (who I think is going to rest) and JR along with Kenyon and Tyson. Let White, Cope, QRich, Shump and Novak play 30+ min. Try to somehow limit Pablo's minutes which will be hard with so many people sitting out.
Wouldn't be too worries about playing the starters, the Hawks aren't trying to win. They want the 6th seed so they can play Indiana, which means they don't have to be in the Heat bracket should they get that far.

NewYorkNoPicks
04-17-2013, 01:02 AM
The guy 44.9 percent and needs 22.2 shots to score 28.7 ppg. He is nowhere near the best scorer.

Best scorer doesnt mean someone whos a few field goal percentage points higher than someone else.

Simplistic thinking.

Best scorer as in the most versatile, the man who can score in the most variety of ways, the man with the least amount of holes in their offensive game. Carmelo Anthony fits all the aforementioned categories and now officially has the statistical distinction of such.

Patrick Chewing
04-17-2013, 01:03 AM
and knicks fan finally have something to brag about melo

kill yourself

Sarcastic
04-17-2013, 01:27 AM
Put that award in Carmelo's All Star Jacket next year

7x NBA All star, 1x NBA Scoring Champion.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDVxYOACQAAYsZl.jpg


Pretty soon, he will add 2013 NBA Champion.

Zedja
04-17-2013, 01:30 AM
I'm a pure bakla because gusto ko sipsipin yung titi ko.
Yes I think all of ISH agrees.

RoundMoundOfReb
04-17-2013, 01:33 AM
Best scorer doesnt mean someone whos a few field goal percentage points higher than someone else.

Simplistic thinking.

Best scorer as in the most versatile, the man who can score in the most variety of ways, the man with the least amount of holes in their offensive game. Carmelo Anthony fits all the aforementioned categories and now officially has the statistical distinction of such.
So pau gasol is a better scorer than shaq?

NuggetsFan
04-17-2013, 01:33 AM
Finally. It would have been a shame to see him retire without atleast grabbing one. For all the % lovers yeah that's important but gotta look at the impact as well. Melo is so versatile is makes it easier for everybody else around him. He can score from anywhere on the court and therefore it's more difficult to gameplan against him. You take away the 3 ball or the midrange and he'll post you up. You make him kill you with his shot and he's shooting all day.

Durant and LeBron may be better scorers because of there ridiculous efficiency but Carmelo is without a doubt the most versatile scorer in the game and that has it's benefits as well.

With all the statistics nowadays people forget that 2 points isn't 2 points, an assist doesn't mean you get full credit for 2 points, how you do things matter and it affects the game. That's not to say all the numbers aren't incredibly informative and shouldn't be used either.

fos
04-17-2013, 01:37 AM
Durant still scored more points than anyone else in the NBA this season. They shouldn't call it the "scoring leader" as that's inaccurate, they should call it the "per game scoring leader" or something to that effect.

Patrick Chewing
04-17-2013, 01:41 AM
Durant still scored more points than anyone else in the NBA this season. They shouldn't call it the "scoring leader" as that's inaccurate, they should call it the "per game scoring leader" or something to that effect.


It's irrelevant. Had Carmelo played the same amount of games as Durant, he'd have more total points.

Amar'e_Juwanna
04-17-2013, 02:29 AM
Durant still scored more points than anyone else in the NBA this season. They shouldn't call it the "scoring leader" as that's inaccurate, they should call it the "per game scoring leader" or something to that effect.

classic butthurt.

2swift4u
04-17-2013, 02:30 AM
Melo is a great scorer and therefore he deserves the title. However if Durant or Lebron took that many shots they'd probably be better scorers than Melo.

Chuckbrook
04-17-2013, 02:51 AM
Did you just start watching basketball? Do you not realize it was just last season that KD intentionally played the final game of the regular season just to outscore Kobe for the scoring title?

Yeah, he cares. He just knows this year wasn't his.

Chuckbrook took it.
Fixed

TheBrewer
04-17-2013, 03:05 AM
classic butthurt.

It's a fair argument... i mean if a guy misses 81 games but goes off for 40 on his final game, should he be rewarded as scoring leader? Where do we draw the line? If it was up to me, i'd rather have scoring per minutes played calculated. That way if they are injured, it takes away from them rather then the entire league and also, even bench players have a fair play at that title.

Patrick Chewing
04-17-2013, 03:09 AM
It's a fair argument... i mean if a guy misses 81 games but goes off for 40 on his final game, should he be rewarded as scoring leader? Where do we draw the line? If it was up to me, i'd rather have scoring per minutes played calculated. That way if they are injured, it takes away from them rather then the entire league and also, even bench players have a fair play at that title.


But there is a line. Minimum of 70 games played to qualify. It's been that way for 39 years actually.

NewYorkNoPicks
04-17-2013, 03:10 AM
It's a fair argument... i mean if a guy misses 81 games but goes off for 40 on his final game, should he be rewarded as scoring leader? Where do we draw the line?

Thats why there are cut-offs

The cut-offs are: either 70 games played or 1400 points

Melo i believe has played 65 of 82 games which amounts to 80% roughly of the season, but has surpassed 1400 points.

Go take a statistics class and learn about Sample Size... 65 games out of 82 is not a large enough sample for you?

NewYorkNoPicks
04-17-2013, 03:14 AM
So pau gasol is a better scorer than shaq?

Youre comparing a finesse power foward to a low post center. Centers are notrious for having the lowest skillset of any of the other positions.

A better comparison is guard vs. guard (2 or 1) or shooting guard vs small forward, or any position versus itself.

But ill play your game....a bit. Hakeem vs Shaq, Hakeem was by far the better scorer, but Shaq was the more dominant player...still though Hakeem was better on offense.

Just like Carmelo is better than Lebron...and Durant..offensively