From 104 exhibition games, NBA teams have an .875 winning edge vs International teams

[CavaliersFTW]

Not U.S. dream teams, just plain-Jane NBA teams equipped with only a few stars at a time and consisting mostly of roleplayers and supporting casts. Dominating with an almost 9 to 1 winning ratio against International competition including some countries home grown International "dream-teams" (such as the China national team).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_played_between_NBA_and_international _teams

To me it seems pretty obvious International basketball still has a looooooooong way to go before it is close to NBA level. So do you guys think International teams will ever be able to compete with NBA teams? :confusedshrug:

[Quintilianus]

Not U.S. dream teams, just plain-Jane NBA teams equipped with only a few stars at a time and consisting mostly of roleplayers and supporting casts. Dominating with an almost 9 to 1 winning ratio against International competition including some countries home grown International "dream-teams" (such as the China national team).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_played_between_NBA_and_international _teams

To me it seems pretty obvious International basketball still has a looooooooong way to go before it is close to NBA level. So do you guys think International teams will ever be able to compete with NBA teams? :confusedshrug:
European basketball is catching up a huge step by a huge step. I'm probably not going to get into this argument with americans, that I believe is a majority of this site, hence the stupidity of the majority of it, but it's pretty obvious, that it's catching up big time

[Element]

inb4euroleague

[SamuraiSWISH]

I'm fairly certain the NBA teams don't even care in those exhibition games, either. Meanwhile, for the inferior international teams, it's like the NBA Finals. A chance to prove themselves worthy, so they play harder with much more at stake for them personally.

[SyRyanYang]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m57xd65swZ1qjvxfho1_500.jpg

Oh by the way 7:1 is not almost 9:1:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Andrew Wiggins]

European basketball is catching up a huge step by a huge step. I'm probably not going to get into this argument with americans, that I believe is a majority of this site, hence the stupidity of the majority of it, but it's pretty obvious, that it's catching up big time

lol at your inferiority complex

[CavaliersFTW]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m57xd65swZ1qjvxfho1_500.jpg

Oh by the way 7:1 is not almost 9:1:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
an .875 winning % is almost 9 to 1

.875 is only slightly under .9

.125 (international "winning" record) is only slightly more than .1

= a nearly 9 to 1 ratio. What am I missing here? :confusedshrug:

[Psycho]

an .875 winning % is almost 9 to 1

.875 is only slightly under .9

.125 (international "winning" record) is only slightly more than .1

= a nearly 9 to 1 ratio. What am I missing here? :confusedshrug:

Maybe that .875/.125=7 :facepalm

[Euroleague]

I'm fairly certain the NBA teams don't even care in those exhibition games, either. Meanwhile, for the inferior international teams, it's like the NBA Finals. A chance to prove themselves worthy, so they play harder with much more at stake for them personally.

I guess that explains why Euroleague teams usually use a 12-13 man rotation in those games............

[kennethgriffin]

Maybe that .875/.125=7 :facepalm


i think you should get sent back to grade 3 math class

you're dividing into a number thats already been divided lol


its not 125 losses out of 875 games

the 875 is the percentage of wins dummy :facepalm

[Euroleague]

What's funny about that article is that they don't even seem to grasp that the Raptors would be an international team also.

[embersyc]

Maybe that .875/.125=7 :facepalm

Learn to math.

.875 is 87.5% as in 8.75 to 1.

[kennethgriffin]

What's funny about that article is that they don't even seem to grasp that the Raptors would be an international team also.


whats funny is the title clearly states "nba teams"

the raptors are an nba team.

[Psycho]

Learn to math.

.875 is 87.5% as in 8.75 to 1.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm

[KG215]

I guess that explains why Euroleague teams usually use a 12-13 man rotation in those games............
And I'm sure in a lot of those games, the NBA teams either barely player or just don't play at all their top 2-3 players. They fill in a lot of the minutes with guys that won't even make the roster or end of the bench guys.

[Euroleague]

whats funny is the title clearly states "nba teams"

the raptors are an nba team.

No it says NBA versus international. The Raptors are an international team.

So it obviously can't be NBA versus international when the Raptors play.

[Euroleague]

Learn to math.

.875 is 87.5% as in 8.75 to 1.

WTF?

7 divided by 8 = .875

[Euroleague]

Not U.S. dream teams, just plain-Jane NBA teams equipped with only a few stars at a time and consisting mostly of roleplayers and supporting casts. Dominating with an almost 9 to 1 winning ratio against International competition including some countries home grown International "dream-teams" (such as the China national team).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_played_between_NBA_and_international _teams

To me it seems pretty obvious International basketball still has a looooooooong way to go before it is close to NBA level. So do you guys think International teams will ever be able to compete with NBA teams? :confusedshrug:

Right, another moron.

[Euroleague]

an .875 winning % is almost 9 to 1

.875 is only slightly under .9

.125 (international "winning" record) is only slightly more than .1

= a nearly 9 to 1 ratio. What am I missing here? :confusedshrug:

Thanks for confirming to everyone that you ARE indeed retarded. I've been saying it for a long time, but thanks for confirming it officially.

[Euroleague]

i think you should get sent back to grade 3 math class

you're dividing into a number thats already been divided lol


its not 125 losses out of 875 games

the 875 is the percentage of wins dummy :facepalm

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :rolleyes: :facepalm

[Psycho]

youre right. people on here dont understand percentages.

Oh god, the irony. I'm dying. :lol

[Euroleague]

Learn to math.

.875 is 87.5% as in 8.75 to 1.

OMFG seriously?

WOW....I have been saying all this time here the average IQ of this forum is about 65 to 70..........it's now actually being confirmed though.

[bmd]

i think you should get sent back to grade 3 math class

you're dividing into a number thats already been divided lol


its not 125 losses out of 875 games

the 875 is the percentage of wins dummy :facepalm125 goes into 875 exactly 7 times.

The number 875 is 7x as much as 125.

Therefore, it's 7:1.

[Euroleague]

And I'm sure in a lot of those games, the NBA teams either barely player or just don't play at all their top 2-3 players. They fill in a lot of the minutes with guys that won't even make the roster or end of the bench guys.

Nope. NBA teams usually play their starters a lot more than the Euroleague teams do. Not always, and some times the other way around, but usually NBA teams are playing their starters more.

[Psycho]

125 goes into 875 exactly 7 times.

The number 875 is 7x as much as 125.

Therefore, it's 7:1.

http://cdn.appcraver.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/math-apps.jpg

[KG215]

Nope. NBA teams usually play their starters a lot more than the Euroleague teams do. Not always, and some times the other way around, but Usually NBA teams are playing their starters more.
Ok, you've definitively posted this. Now give me proof, or I'm just going to assume you're making shit up as always.

[DMV2]

No it says NBA versus international. The Raptors are an international team.

So it obviously can't be NBA versus international when the Raptors play.
The Raptors are a Canadian-based NBA team.

[Euroleague]

Ok, you've definitively posted this. Now give me proof, or I'm just going to assume you're making shit up as always.

Give me proof of what you said. Give me proof that NBA teams rest their players and hardly play their starters and play them less than Euroleague teams do.

Give me proof Euroleague teams don't use a big rotation.

GIVE ME PROOF of what you claim or **** off.

GIVE ME PROOF or go back to the damn ignore bin.

Where people like you that always MAKE UP SHIT belong anyway.

[Euroleague]

The Raptors are a Canadian-based NBA team.

Which means they are an international team.

[KG215]

Give me proof of what you said. Give me proof that NBA teams rest their players and hardly play their starters and play them less than Euroleague teams do.

Give me proof Euroleague teams don't use a big rotation.

GIVE ME PROOF of what you claim or **** off.
GIVE ME PROOF or go back to the damn ignore bin.

Where people like you that always MAKE UP SHIT belong anyway.
Nah, I'm good. I asked you first so the burden is on you. If you don't I and everyone else will just assume you're talking out of your ass and lying, which is the case 99% of the time anyway.

[CavaliersFTW]

Are some of you guys seriously this retarded at simple math?

Look at it this way:

91 wins | 13 losses

round the ****ing numbers

90 wins | 10 losses

= a 9 TO 1 RATIO (almost - because we rounded)

Matter of fact, it comes out to precisely an 8.75 to 1 ratio ergo an .875 winning %. Jesus Christ this is like 2nd grade shit there is no possible way to **** up and get a "7 to 1" ratio without being incredibly dense.

[chips93]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_played_between_NBA_and_international _teams

To me it seems pretty obvious International basketball still has a looooooooong way to go before it is close to NBA level. So do you guys think International teams will ever be able to compete with NBA teams? :confusedshrug:

maybe im misunderstanding what your saying, but how does the internationals all-time record against the nba, tell us where they are right now.

[aj1987]

Which means they are an international team.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[KG215]

Are you guys seriously this retarded in simple math?

Look at it this way:

91 wins | 13 losses

round the ****ing numbers

90 wins | 10 losses

= almost a 9 TO 1 RATIO

Jesus Christ this is like 2nd grade shit there is no possible way to **** up and get a "7 to 1" ratio without being incredibly dense.
That's how I was thinking it worked, too, but I haven't had a math class in years and have forgotten a lot of even the basic stuff.

The way I did it is looking the 1996 Bulls who went 72-10. I know they didn't do it exactly like this, but one way to go 72-10 is to go 8-1 every 9 games. So you go 8-1, 16-2, 24-3, 32-4, 40-5, etc. Do that and you get to 72-10 which is an .878 win%. I mean that actually gets you to 72-9, so I guess it's not perfect. But it's the closest I could think of and their win% is close to .875. But basically, they were winning about 8 out of every 9 games.

[Psycho]

Are some of you guys seriously this retarded at simple math?

Look at it this way:

91 wins | 13 losses

round the ****ing numbers

90 wins | 10 losses

= almost a 9 TO 1 RATIO

Matter of fact, it comes out to precisely an 8.75 to 1 ratio ergo an .875 winning %. Jesus Christ this is like 2nd grade shit there is no possible way to **** up and get a "7 to 1" ratio without being incredibly dense.

I'll break it down for you real simple like. 1+8.75=9.75. 8.75/9.75=.897. .897 winning percentage is not the same as a .875 winning percentage. You get a .875 winning percentage by winning for example 875 games and losing 125 games because 875/(125+875)=.875. 875/125, the win to loss ratio is 7, which is not 9. Now please stop embarrassing yourself.

[Euroleague]

Nah, I'm good. I asked you first so the burden is on you. If you don't I and everyone else will just assume you're talking out of your ass and lying, which is the case 99% of the time anyway.

The burden is on you mother****er. You made the claim and you made it FIRST.

Provide proof or you LIED.

PERIOD.

[embersyc]

http://www2.mes-coloriages-preferes.com/Images/Large/Famous-characters-Troll-face-Troll-face-me-gusta-51996.png

[Euroleague]

Are some of you guys seriously this retarded at simple math?

Look at it this way:

91 wins | 13 losses

round the ****ing numbers

90 wins | 10 losses

= a 9 TO 1 RATIO (almost - because we rounded)

Matter of fact, it comes out to precisely an 8.75 to 1 ratio ergo an .875 winning %. Jesus Christ this is like 2nd grade shit there is no possible way to **** up and get a "7 to 1" ratio without being incredibly dense.

You have officially CONFIRMED that you are mentally retarded.

[Euroleague]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Wow...so not only do we have a bunch of retards in this thread that can't even do 2nd grade math.........

we also have a bunch of retards in this thread that don't know what the word international means.

No wonder the opinions in this forum are so freaking crazy. Many of the members here really literally are drooling retards.

[Euroleague]

maybe im misunderstanding what your saying, but how does the internationals all-time record against the nba, tell us where they are right now.

He's retarded and he's a troll. He's also trying to equate all of international basketball to Euroleague and/or European national teams, which also makes him delusional.

[Overdrive]

i think you should get sent back to grade 3 math class

you're dividing into a number thats already been divided lol


its not 125 losses out of 875 games

the 875 is the percentage of wins dummy :facepalm



Learn to math.

.875 is 87.5% as in 8.75 to 1.

Percent means each hundred. Out of hundred games the teams win 87,5 or 875 each thousand. Of course you get a ratio by dividing percentages. Doesn't matter if you divide 8,75 by 1,25; 875 by 125 or 8,75*10^5000 by 1,25*10^5000 it's always 7. If you divide % by % you can simply leave out the % in the result; 1/100:1/100 = 1...

[Euroleague]

That's how I was thinking it worked, too, but I haven't had a math class in years and have forgotten a lot of even the basic stuff.

The way I did it is looking the 1996 Bulls who went 72-10. I know they didn't do it exactly like this, but one way to go 72-10 is to go 8-1 every 9 games. So you go 8-1, 16-2, 24-3, 32-4, 40-5, etc. Do that and you get to 72-10 which is an .878 win%. I mean that actually gets you to 72-9, so I guess it's not perfect. But it's the closest I could think of and their win% is close to .875. But basically, they were winning about 8 out of every 9 games.

What a shock, this freaking lying troll scumbag is also mentally retarded. I am stunned......

:facepalm :roll:

[KG215]

The burden is on you mother****er. You made the claim and you made it FIRST.

Provide proof or you LIED.

PERIOD.
:oldlol:

It must be a bitch going through life as angry as you always are. And if this is just an internet persona, it's even sadder.

[Euroleague]

:oldlol:

It must be a bitch going through life as angry as you always are. And if this is just an internet persona, it's even sadder.

It must be a bitch that you can't even do 2nd grade math........

[aj1987]

Wow...so not only do we have a bunch of retards in this thread that can't even do 2nd grade math.........

we also have a bunch of retards in this thread that don't know what the word international means.

No wonder the opinions in this forum are so freaking crazy. Many of the members here really literally are drooling retards.
Dude, I wasn't talking about the math. We are talking about NBA teams against International teams in this thread. The International teams belong to International Leagues. They should've made the title a bit clearer, but I guess people with any semblance of intelligence would've understood it.

BTW, you do NOT divide the number of losses from the number of wins to get a winning percentage. You divide the wins by the total number of games played. :facepalm

[KG215]

What a shock, this freaking lying troll scumbag is also mentally retarded. I am stunned......

:facepalm :roll:
I've got a degree in history and I'm working on another degree in English. I haven't had any kind of math class in years and I don't sit here and buff up on my basic math skills every few months. That's why I admitted I wasn't sure if i was doing it right. I have no problem admitting I'm not sure how you take win% and convert into a ratio of winning to losing.

But sure, describing me as mentally retarded is pretty accurate.

[UnbiasedGuy]

you ****ing idiots are retarded, arguing over basic math problem :lol :lol :lol

let an electrical engineer solve your shit

if it is 1:1, that would be 50% right?

1:0 = 100% right?

from this,

this is :

7:1

7/8 = 0.875, just as 1/2 = 0.5

:lol :lol :lol

[Psycho]

I've got a degree in history and I'm working on another degree in English. I haven't had any kind of math class in years and I don't sit here and buff up on my basic math skills every few months.

But sure, describing me as mentally retarded is pretty accurate.

Dude, I wouldn't even call this math. This is stuff you learn in elementary school, and should really just be considered common sense. I do actual math, and it has nothing to do with simple division.

[Euroleague]

Dude, I wasn't talking about the math. We are talking about NBA teams against International teams in this thread. The International teams belong to International Leagues. They should've made the title a bit clearer, but I guess people with any semblance of intelligence would've understood it.

WTF is wrong with you people?

You seriously don't know what the word international means? I mean for real? SERIOUSLY?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/international?s=t

GET SERIOUS please.

This is just downright ****ing embarrassing at this point.

[Euroleague]

I've got a degree in history and I'm working on another degree in English. I haven't had any kind of math class in years and I don't sit here and buff up on my basic math skills every few months. That's why I admitted I wasn't sure if i was doing it right. I have no problem admitting I'm not sure how you take win% and convert into a ratio of winning to losing.

But sure, describing me as mentally retarded is pretty accurate.

You ARE mentally retarded. Your horrific butchering of a simple 2nd grade math problem already proved that.

[Euroleague]

you ****ing idiots are retarded, arguing over basic math problem :lol :lol :lol

let an electrical engineer solve your shit

if it is 1:1, that would be 50% right?

1:0 = 100% right?

from this,

this is :

7:1

7/8 = 0.875, just as 1/2 = 0.5

:lol :lol :lol

And yet, you just know some clown is going to tell you that you are wrong........

[aj1987]

WTF is wrong with you people?

You seriously don't know what the word international means? I mean for real? SERIOUSLY?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/international?s=t

GET SERIOUS please.

This is just downright ****ing embarrassing at this point.
Your comprehension skills suck. As I said, the page pertains to the record of NBA teams against teams from other International leagues. They should've make the title clearer but it was pretty much given what that page was trying to imply.

From that Wiki page I know that the Raptors and the Wizards Sh!t on the other scrub leagues (including Euroleague).

[K]

87.5% of my fruits are apples. 12.5% of my fruits are pears. The apples to pears ratio is 7:1.

Americans. :facepalm

[Euroleague]

Your comprehension skills suck. As I said, the page pertains to the record of NBA teams against teams from other International leagues. They should've make the title clearer but it was pretty much given what that page was trying to imply.

From that Wiki page I know that the Raptors and the Wizards Sh!t on the other scrub leagues (including Euroleague).

The NBA IS an international league you freaking idiot.

[CavaliersFTW]

The NBA IS an international league you freaking idiot.
whoah calm down man this is just a simple discussion and your about to blow a gasket

[Living Being]

"8.75 to 1.25" cannot just be rounded to "9 to 1." That's a big difference.

If they played 1000 games, that would be taking 25 wins from one side and moving it to the other.

[UnbiasedGuy]

"8.75 to 1.25" cannot just be rounded to "9 to 1." That's a big difference.

If they played 1000 games, that would be taking 25 wins from one side and moving it to the other.

stern would move more like 250 to lakers :lol :lol

[aj1987]

The NBA IS an international league you freaking idiot.
I mean for people who live in the U.S., they think of the NBA as a National league (as the name suggests). All the other NBA leagues in other countries are International leagues. Granted, the NBA has an International team, it still is considered as an American league. When you compare other leagues to the NBA, you would call them International leagues, wouldn't you? Or would you rather name the article "List of games played between NBA and Euroleague, Chinese Basketball League, Basketball League of Serbia, etc."?

[daj0264]

[QUOTE=K

[UnbiasedGuy]

10 fruits round the numbers to 90 and 10 and you have 9 apples to 1 pear

make it one fruit, i now have 1 apple to 0 pears

math does not work like that :biggums: :biggums:

9:1 is not 7:1. I can see why everyone is so confused though, 90% and 87.5% are really phucking close.

[Xsatyr]

European basketball is catching up a huge step by a huge step. I'm probably not going to get into this argument with americans, that I believe is a majority of this site, hence the stupidity of the majority of it, but it's pretty obvious, that it's catching up big time

All those commas and no period.

[bmd]

[QUOTE=K

[bmd]

European basketball is catching up a huge step by a huge step. I'm probably not going to get into this argument with americans, that I believe is a majority of this site, hence the stupidity of the majority of it, but it's pretty obvious, that it's catching up big timeWhy are you making this about Americans?

[Psileas]

make it one fruit, i now have 1 apple to 0 pears

math does not work like that :biggums: :biggums:

9:1 is not 7:1. I can see why everyone is so confused though, 90% and 87.5% are really phucking close.

Well, that's what the OP mentioned in his initial post (he wrote "an almost 9 to 1 winning ratio") and I don't know why he didn't insist on pointing out the significance of "almost". Maybe he should have written "an almost 90% winning percentage", it would probably have made way less fuss.

7:1=87.5%
9:1=90%

Not the same. Pretty close still.

[bmd]

Actually he's right. It's simple math. .875 is a percentage not to be taken as a number. Is not 7 to 1 ratio is either 8 to 1 or 9 to 1 depending if you rounded or just cut everything after 8.This is correct. It is 8:1.

87.5% of 104 games is 91 wins. 104 - 91 = 13. 104 / 13 = 8.

Therefore, it's 8:1.

[Xsatyr]

Actually he's right. It's simple math. .875 is a percentage not to be taken as a number. Is not 7 to 1 ratio is either 8 to 1 or 9 to 1 depending if you rounded or just cut everything after 8.

You don't get it. If you played 16 games and won 14 that means your winning percentage is .875. The ratio to which you beat the other team is 7-1 bc 14/2 equals 7.

[Bandito]

This is correct. It is 8:1.

87.5% of 104 games is 91 wins. 104 - 91 = 13. 104 / 13 = 8.

Therefore, it's 8:1.
That's what I been saying.


You don't get it. If you played 16 games and won 14 that means your winning percentage is .875. The ratio to which you beat the other team is 7-1 bc 14/2 equals 7.

I am going to ask my math professor and put the answer here tomorrow if I see her. I am pretty sure it's 8.

[Psileas]

This is correct. It is 8:1.

87.5% of 104 games is 91 wins. 104 - 91 = 13. 104 / 13 = 8.

Therefore, it's 8:1.

This way, you compare "total games played"/"total losses", not "total wins"/"total losses".

[UnbiasedGuy]

That's what I been saying.



I am going to ask my math professor and put the answer here tomorrow if I see her. I am pretty sure it's 8.

you trolling, dumbass?

you divide wins by total games...

for example, winning 1 out of 2 games gives you a 50% win rate

edit: this whole thread has been derailed, mods please delete, repost without a elementary school math error :lol :lol :lol :roll: :roll:

[G-train]

:roll:

[bmd]

This way, you compare "total games played"/"total losses", not "total wins"/"total losses".Yep. My fault. It should be 91/13 = 7.

So 7:1.

So many different answers have me mixing myself up.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

This is correct. It is 8:1.

87.5% of 104 games is 91 wins. 104 - 91 = 13. 104 / 13 = 8.

Therefore, it's 8:1.
Wow some of you guys are total idiots.

for every 1000 games they play nba teams win 875 and international teams win 125

therefore the ratio is

875:125

divide both sides by 125

7:1

[Kungfro]

Euroleague, this argument you're having about the Raptors being an international team is pointless, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove. The stat is simply NBA teams vs non-NBA teams, what you're trying to debate has nothing to do with anything.

Also some of you guys are terrible at math.

[Andrew Wiggins]

Euroleague, this argument you're having about the Raptors being an international team is pointless, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove. The stat is simply NBA teams vs non-NBA teams, what you're trying to debate has nothing to do with anything.

Also some of you guys are terrible at math.

people tend to focus on semantics when they can't argue the main point at hand.

[tomkiddo91]

Pretty sure this is an NBA forum not a maths board...

Can't even remember the original question/statement now.

[CavaliersFTW]

I believe my work here is done :cheers:

[Quizno]

The NBA IS an international league you freaking idiot.
dude, the guy you quoted specifically said OTHER international leagues. he literally specifically called the NBA an international league. you're just confirming what he said and calling him an idiot for some reason :roll:

you're trying to argue over syntax to distract people from the main point, which is that NBA teams beat the living **** out of teams from other leagues because those other leagues are inferior and filled with inferior players. the truth hurts

[CavaliersFTW]

dude, the guy you quoted specifically said OTHER international leagues. he literally specifically called the NBA an international league. you're just confirming what he said and calling him an idiot for some reason :roll:

you're trying to argue over syntax to distract people from the main point, which is that NBA teams beat the living **** out of teams from other leagues because those other leagues are inferior and filled with inferior players. the truth hurts
^--- this is the bottom line

[G-train]

which is that NBA teams beat the living **** out of teams from other leagues because those other leagues are inferior and filled with inferior players. the truth hurts

That's not true anymore.
In fact FC Barcelona beat the Mavs just last year, and other games were close.

[G-train]

And the biggest point to make is that in recent years these games have been purely exhibition, with neither team really trying.
In fact plenty of games I watched the NBA team was trying harder.

[Andrew Wiggins]

^--- this is the bottom line

okay, but what's the point of making this thread as if it's some sort of revelation? almost everyone who follows basketball knows nba is the best league in the world by a large margin. that's not to say foreign teams aren't good.

my local team beat the mavs comprehensively in the preseason this year and may be good enough to earn a playoff spot in the east. no need to put down foreign teams just to state an obvious point that the nba is the best. if you are a true fan of the game, you'll appreciate high quality basketball no matter where it's played.

[CavaliersFTW]

okay, but what's the point of making this thread as if it's some sort of revelation? almost everyone who follows basketball knows nba is the best league in the world by a large margin. that's not to say foreign teams aren't good.

my local team beat the mavs comprehensively in the preseason this year and may be good enough to earn a playoff spot in the east. no need to put down foreign teams just to state an obvious point that the nba is the best. if you are a true fan of the game, you'll appreciate high quality basketball no matter where it's played.
http://www.chattanoogaville.com/images/american-eagle-melanietipton-melanietiptonofficialwebsite-chattanoogaville-chattanoogavilleconservativetvshow-lloydmarcusarticles-conservativetelevision.jpg

[Euroleague]

I mean for people who live in the U.S., they think of the NBA as a National league (as the name suggests). All the other NBA leagues in other countries are International leagues. Granted, the NBA has an International team, it still is considered as an American league. When you compare other leagues to the NBA, you would call them International leagues, wouldn't you? Or would you rather name the article "List of games played between NBA and Euroleague, Chinese Basketball League, Basketball League of Serbia, etc."?

So why does the article say NBA versus international........that's exactly the point. It implies NBA versus a foreign as in non-USA team.

The Raptors are a foreign and non-USA team.

[Euroleague]

Well, that's what the OP mentioned in his initial post (he wrote "an almost 9 to 1 winning ratio") and I don't know why he didn't insist on pointing out the significance of "almost". Maybe he should have written "an almost 90% winning percentage", it would probably have made way less fuss.

7:1=87.5%
9:1=90%

Not the same. Pretty close still.

He can't do basic math. That's why.

[Euroleague]

you trolling, dumbass?

you divide wins by total games...

for example, winning 1 out of 2 games gives you a 50% win rate

edit: this whole thread has been derailed, mods please delete, repost without a elementary school math error :lol :lol :lol :roll: :roll:

I know. The level of stupidity here is shocking.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague, this argument you're having about the Raptors being an international team is pointless, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove. The stat is simply NBA teams vs non-NBA teams, what you're trying to debate has nothing to do with anything.

Also some of you guys are terrible at math.

I was talking about the part of the article that listed the Raptors as a non international team, even though they ARE an international team.

It's not very hard to grasp.

[SyRyanYang]

an .875 winning % is almost 9 to 1

.875 is only slightly under .9

.125 (international "winning" record) is only slightly more than .1

= a nearly 9 to 1 ratio. What am I missing here? :confusedshrug:

You missed your education:coleman:

[CavaliersFTW]

I was talking about the part of the article that listed the Raptors as a non international team, even though they ARE an international team.

It's not very hard to grasp.
Or in your case, neither are straws :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

dude, the guy you quoted specifically said OTHER international leagues. he literally specifically called the NBA an international league. you're just confirming what he said and calling him an idiot for some reason :roll:

you're trying to argue over syntax to distract people from the main point, which is that NBA teams beat the living **** out of teams from other leagues because those other leagues are inferior and filled with inferior players. the truth hurts

You are a freaking moron. The Raptors ARE an international team. But the article lists this like they are a domestic one.

It's an error, period. That is unless now you want to claim that Canada is a part of the USA.

[Euroleague]

That's not true anymore.
In fact FC Barcelona beat the Mavs just last year, and other games were close.

And Fener, A BAD Euroleague team beat the Celtics.

[CavaliersFTW]

You missed your education:coleman:
I did mess that up :lol - but the bottom line remains the same

NBA teams >>>>>>> International teams

7:1 is still a dominant winning ratio

[Maniak]

So why does the article say NBA versus international........that's exactly the point. It implies NBA versus a foreign as in non-USA team.

The Raptors are a foreign and non-USA team.
agreed 100%.

alan anderson, quincy acy, demar derozan, landry fields, rudy gay, aaron gray, amir johnson, kyle lowry, john lucas iii, terrence ross, and sebastian telfair are some of the nba's premier foreign/non-usa players.

euroleague>nba.

[vinsane01]

funny thread :D

[Xsatyr]

I love all the semantics being argued in this thread. Either way...

NBA > Those YMCA leagues around the world.

[CavaliersFTW]

http://youtu.be/QPa-2czPs1g

http://www.chattanoogaville.com/images/american-eagle-melanietipton-melanietiptonofficialwebsite-chattanoogaville-chattanoogavilleconservativetvshow-lloydmarcusarticles-conservativetelevision.jpg

[Euroleague]

Or in your case, neither are straws :oldlol:

Tell me, have you been able to figure out yet that .875 = 7/8 and not 9/10?

Or are you still ****ing totally baffled by that?
:roll: :lol :oldlol: :rolleyes: :facepalm

:biggums:

[SyRyanYang]

I did mess that up :lol - but the bottom line remains the same

NBA teams >>>>>>> International teams

7:1 is still a dominant winning ratio

Hence the "you don't say"?

[SyRyanYang]

If you have a personal vendetta towards Euroleague (the poster). Why don't you two lovebirds sort it out elsewhere instead of thread bombing the forum?

[Euroleague]

I also like how he used this stat to troll...including games against teams from China, Philippines, etc.

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

How about games between NBA and modern Euroleague?


with mixed FIBA and NBA rules and 2 NBA refs and 1 FIBA ref the record is......wait for it, wait for it.............

11-7.

the NBA is 11-7 versus the modern Euroleague, playing with mixed rules and refs.

[CavaliersFTW]

Tell me, have you been able to figure out yet that .875 = 7/8 and not 9/10?

Or are you still ****ing totally baffled by that?
:roll: :lol :oldlol: :rolleyes: :facepalm

:biggums:
6 sequential smileys!?

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac303/elfprincessarcher/morganfreemanhemad.jpg

[CavaliersFTW]

If you have a personal vendetta towards Euroleague (the poster). Why don't you two lovebirds sort it out elsewhere instead of thread bombing the forum?
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8356/nofunx.jpg

[Xsatyr]

If you have a personal vendetta towards Euroleague (the poster). Why don't you two lovebirds sort it out elsewhere instead of thread bombing the forum?

^ Female casualty. ^

[Euroleague]

The NBA's record versus the modern era Euroleague is 11-7, when playing games with mixed NBA/FIBA rules and 2 NBA refs/1 FIBA ref.

So..............the NBA's record is actually 11-7 versus the Euroleague.


The results:


2003: Memphis Grizzlies 91 - Barcelona Basquet 80

:1-0

2006: Barcelona Basquet 104- Philadelphia 76ers 99

:1-1

2006: Phoenix Suns 100 - Virtus Roma 93

: 2-1

2006: CSKA Moscow 94 - Los Angeles Clippers 75

: 2-2

2006: San Antonio Spurs 97 - Maccabi Tel Aviv 84

: 3-2

2006: Phoenix Suns 119 - Maccabi Tel Aviv 102

: 4-2

2006: Philadelphia 76ers 85 - CSKA Moscow 71

: 5-2

2007: Minnesota Timberwolves 87 - Efes 81

: 6-2

2007: Toronto Raptors 93 - Virtus Roma 87

: 7-2

2007: Malaga 102 - Memphis Grizzlies 99

: 7-3

2007: Real Madrid 104 - Toronto Raptors 103

: 7-4

2009: Utah Jazz 109 - Real Madrid 87

: 8-4

2010: New York Knicks 125 - Olimpia Milano 113

: 9-4

2010: Barcelona Basquet 92 - Los Angeles Lakers 88

: 9-5

2012: Fenerbahce 97 - Boston Celtics 91

: 9-6

2012: Dallas Mavericks 89 - Alba Berlin 84

: 10-6

2012: Boston Celtics 105 - Olimpia Milano 75

: 11-6

2012: Barcelona Basquet 99 - Dallas Mavericks 85

: 11-7

[CavaliersFTW]

The NBA's record versus the modern era Euroleague is 11-7, when playing games with mixed NBA/FIBA rules and 2 NBA refs/1 FIBA ref.

So..............the NBA's record is actually 11-7 versus the Euroleague.


The results:


2003: Memphis Grizzlies 91 - Barcelona Basquet 80

:1-0

2006: Barcelona Basquet 104- Philadelphia 76ers 99

:1-1

2006: Phoenix Suns 100 - Virtus Roma 93

: 2-1

2006: CSKA Moscow 94 - Los Angeles Clippers 75

: 2-2

2006: San Antonio Spurs 97 - Maccabi Tel Aviv 84

: 3-2

2006: Phoenix Suns 119 - Maccabi Tel Aviv 102

: 4-2

2006: Philadelphia 76ers 85 - CSKA Moscow 71

: 5-2

2007: Minnesota Timberwolves 87 - Efes 81

: 6-2

2007: Toronto Raptors 93 - Virtus Roma 87

: 7-2

2007: Malaga 102 - Memphis Grizzlies 99

: 7-3

2007: Real Madrid 104 - Toronto Raptors 103

: 7-4

2009: Utah Jazz 109 - Real Madrid 87

: 8-4

2010: New York Knicks 125 - Olimpia Milano 113

: 9-4

2010: Barcelona Basquet 92 - Los Angeles Lakers 88

: 9-5

2012: Fenerbahce 97 - Boston Celtics 91

: 9-6

2012: Dallas Mavericks 89 - Alba Berlin 84

: 10-6

2012: Boston Celtics 105 - Olimpia Milano 75

: 11-6

2012: Barcelona Basquet 99 - Dallas Mavericks 85

: 11-7
:facepalm This thread isn't about Euroleague it's about NBA teams vs International teams. Nobody cares about the struggling Euroleague - that's where role players, hacks and has-been's from the NBA go to win empty titles, MVP's and statues.

[Sumter15]

Yes, the answer's 7:1, but not knowing how to do the problem's really not a big deal. That's not the point of this board. The point of this board is to discuss basketball, and some people who did their math wrong show a much greater knowledge of basketball on the regular than some of the people who (claim to have) got it right. Point is, it's mostly irrelevant to basketball knowledge.

[Sumter15]

European basketball is catching up a huge step by a huge step. I'm probably not going to get into this argument with americans, that I believe is a majority of this site, hence the stupidity of the majority of it, but it's pretty obvious, that it's catching up big time

Hold on there, sailor, if you want to call americans stupid, especially for petty things like answering a math problem, you should make sure that your grammar, is up to snuff ( for, example, you use, a, couple, too, many, commas).

[Psycho]

petty things like answering a math problem

I would seriously lose all faith in a colleague who would be unable to realize a winning percentage of 87.5 % translates to a 7:1 win to loss ratio. I would never trust them again, and would from that point on attempt to avoid working with them at all costs. That is not a math problem. That is seriously being unable to divide, and not understanding what a percentage is. A 3rd grader should know these things.

[Euroleague]

:facepalm This thread isn't about Euroleague it's about NBA teams vs International teams. Nobody cares about the struggling Euroleague - that's where role players, hacks and has-been's from the NBA go to win empty titles, MVP's and statues.

Amazing how all those scrubs won 7 out of 18 games against "vastly superior" NBA competition.

[CavaliersFTW]

Amazing how all those scrubs won 7 out of 18 games against "vastly superior" NBA competition.
Who used the word scrub? Who are you arguing with? Again - this isn't a discussion about Euroleague it's NBA teams vs International teams. Some of those International teams may fall under the "Euroleague" category, but that doesn't give you a green light to spam your agenda. Ultimately we're looking at a much bigger picture here - who cares about Euroleague? :confusedshrug:

[Sumter15]

I would seriously lose all faith in a colleague who would be unable to realize a winning percentage of 87.5 % translates to a 7:1 win to loss ratio. I would never trust them again, and would from that point on attempt to avoid working with them at all costs. That is not a math problem. That is seriously being unable to divide, and not understanding what a percentage is. A 3rd grader should know these things.

I understand. Here's where I disagree with you. There was a guy in one of my comp sci classes. He was pretty good at the subject, and he was a smart guy in general, but he couldn't spell for shit. That's also a thing 3rd graders should know how to do. The problem is, most people aren't 3rd graders. People forget, especially people who haven't gone to school in school for a while. It doesn't make them complete idiots. You probably shouldn't be asking them to help find the standard deviation of a frequency distribution, but they could still just as easily know a lot more than you in a certain subject. People are generally intelligent in different ways, and I don't think you should disregard them for not knowing something you consider to be common knowledge.

[VIntageNOvel]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day :lol
This is the first time i have seen euroleague ethered other poster :applause: (usually the other way around)
but still no one admitted it :roll:

[gabepizza]

Amazing how all those scrubs won 7 out of 18 games against "vastly superior" NBA competition.

I like how you conveniently only mention the games in Europe where the Euroleague teams have home court advantage and the NBA teams are dealing with jet leg. When the roles are reversed and the Euroleague teams come to North American to play they are 2-32. Yes you read that right 2-32 on NBA teams home court. So as you see home court is a big advantage, especially when the visiting team has to cross an ocean. So really those scrubs have really won 9 out of 50 games.

And if you mention that in North American they have to play with NBA rules, who cares. Basketball is basketball. No matter what the rules you should win more than 2 out of 34 times!

And if you believe the rules make so much of a difference what does that say about Team USA who has won gold in the last three competitions with 100% FIBA rules and FIBA refs. So Team USA can totally dominate playing with FIBA rules and refs but these soft Euroleague teams can only win 2 out of 34 games playing with NBA rules refs? How pathetic.

There is a reason why one league is so much better.

Another fun fact. Right now the only Euroleage team to advance undefeated out of the quarter-finals to the Final Four is Real Madrid.

So Real Madrid is a top 4 Euroleague team. They visited the US this summer and lost to both NBA teams they played, the Grizzlies who are a good team but also the lowly Raptors put a beating on them.

[Xsatyr]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day :lol
This is the first time i have seen euroleague ethered other poster :applause: (usually the other way around)
but still no one admitted it :roll:

The dude is cherry picking...

[CavaliersFTW]

I like how you conveniently only mention the games in Europe where the Euroleague teams have home court advantage and the NBA teams are dealing with jet leg. When the roles are reversed and the Euroleague teams come to North American to play they are 2-32. Yes you read that right 2-32 on NBA teams home court. So as you see home court is a big advantage, especially when the visiting team has to cross an ocean. So really those scrubs have really won 9 out of 50 games.

And if you mention that in North American they have to play with NBA rules, who cares. Basketball is basketball. No matter what the rules you should win more than 2 out of 34 times!

And if you believe the rules make so much of a difference what does that say about Team USA who has won gold in the last three competitions with 100% FIBA rules and FIBA refs. So Team USA can totally dominate playing with FIBA rules and refs but these soft Euroleague teams can only win 2 out of 34 games playing with NBA rules refs? How pathetic.

There is a reason why one league is so much better.

Another fun fact. Right now the only Euroleage team to advance undefeated out of the quarter-finals to the Final Four is Real Madrid.

So Real Madrid is a top 4 Euroleague team. They visited the US this summer and lost to both NBA teams they played, the Grizzlies who are a good team but also the lowly Raptors put a beating on them.
damn, that's even worse than I thought :eek:

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/apply-cold-water-to-the-burned-area.jpeg

[Euroleague]

I like how you conveniently only mention the games in Europe where the Euroleague teams have home court advantage and the NBA teams are dealing with jet leg. When the roles are reversed and the Euroleague teams come to North American to play they are 2-32. Yes you read that right 2-32 on NBA teams home court. So as you see home court is a big advantage, especially when the visiting team has to cross an ocean. So really those scrubs have really won 9 out of 50 games.

And if you mention that in North American they have to play with NBA rules, who cares. Basketball is basketball. No matter what the rules you should win more than 2 out of 34 times!

And if you believe the rules make so much of a difference what does that say about Team USA who has won gold in the last three competitions with 100% FIBA rules and FIBA refs. So Team USA can totally dominate playing with FIBA rules and refs but these soft Euroleague teams can only win 2 out of 34 games playing with NBA rules refs? How pathetic.

There is a reason why one league is so much better.

Another fun fact. Right now the only Euroleage team to advance undefeated out of the quarter-finals to the Final Four is Real Madrid.

So Real Madrid is a top 4 Euroleague team. They visited the US this summer and lost to both NBA teams they played, the Grizzlies who are a good team but also the lowly Raptors put a beating on them.


None of those games count. They are exhibition games and not official, and they only use NBA rules and NBA refs so they are not fair.

The ACTUAL official tournament games, where they play OFFICIAL games.......

NBA is 11-7.

Also, Ricky Rubio said Euroleague is better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-MI6Z1cV4

[CavaliersFTW]

None of those games count. They are exhibition games and not official, and the only use NBA rules and NBA refs so they are not fair.

The ACTUAL official tournament games, where they play OFFICIAL games.......

NBA is 11-7.
So if Euroleague squads get exposed trying to play against NBA teams with NBA rules (seems reasonable to me seeing as how the NBA is the gold standard) "None of those games count."

:rolleyes:

[Euroleague]

So if Euroleague squads get exposed trying to play against NBA teams with NBA rules (seems reasonable to me seeing as how the NBA is the gold standard) "None of those games count."

:rolleyes:

No. The games played with mixed rules and refs are OFFICIAL games. The other ones are exhibition games.

If you are really going to count exhibition games, then you are trolling. gabepizza is a troll and a certifiable lunatic. That's why he thinks exhibition games should be counted to mean something.

He's a mega troll.

[gabepizza]

None of those games count. They are exhibition games and not official, and they only use NBA rules and NBA refs so they are not fair.

The ACTUAL official tournament games, where they play OFFICIAL games.......

NBA is 11-7.

Also, Ricky Rubio said Euroleague is better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-MI6Z1cV4

Oh I get it. The exhibition games in Europe are official but the ones in the NBA are not official. Man you are desperate. None of them are official, they are all exhibition games. Show me one link that says the exhibition games are official in Europe and not in North America or else is just has to be taken as another one of your many lies.

Like the lie that Rubio says that the Euroleague is better. He did not say that. He said the NBA is easier to play because of the rules. He never said the word better. He means easier because of the rules.

Another one of your many lies and exaggerations. In Euroleague he won a championship, in the NBA he has never even made the playoffs.

[rhowen4]

Basket-weaving major here.

I just wanted to touch on the math problem people are having trouble with. Don't worry if you don't understand it. Look at it, mull it over, sleep on it, and keep it in the back of your head whilst you do your next day's activities. This time tomorrow I do believe you'll achieve serendipity. After all, a favorite saying of mine is that "chance favors the prepared mind". Cheers to you all.

[Euroleague]

Oh I get it. The exhibition games in Europe are official but the ones in the NBA are not official. Man you are desperate. None of them are official, they are all exhibition games. Show me one link that says the exhibition games are official in Europe and not in North America or else is just has to be taken as another one of your many lies.

Like the lie that Rubio says that the Euroleague is better. He did not say that. He said the NBA is easier to play because of the rules. He never said the word better. He means easier because of the rules.

Another one of your many lies and exaggerations. In Euroleague he won a championship, in the NBA he has never even made the playoffs.

No you don't get it idiot. The games in Europe are not exhibitions. ****ing nutcase.

IGNORE LIST AGAIN

Rubio said NBA is an easier league. He is saying the Euroleague is harder to play in.

You will probably cry all night long now that I posted that. Next time don't bring up Rubio when you start your endless trolling bullshit and psychotic ranting.

[CavaliersFTW]

No you don't get it idiot. The games in Europe are not exhibitions. ****ing nutcase.

IGNORE LIST AGAIN
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: how are they not all identically treated exhibitions? Can you please cite some links or some documentation that verifies that NBA vs Euroleague games played on American soil are "exhibitions" (and not to be counted) but ones on European soil are "official" and must be counted?

[KG215]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: how are they not all identically treated exhibitions? Can you please cite some links or some documentation that verifies that NBA vs Euroleague games played on American soil are "exhibitions" (and not to be counted) but ones on European soil are "official" and must be counted?
It's Euroleague. Of course he can't.

[Cali Syndicate]

I like how you conveniently only mention the games in Europe where the Euroleague teams have home court advantage and the NBA teams are dealing with jet leg. When the roles are reversed and the Euroleague teams come to North American to play they are 2-32. Yes you read that right 2-32 on NBA teams home court. So as you see home court is a big advantage, especially when the visiting team has to cross an ocean. So really those scrubs have really won 9 out of 50 games.

And if you mention that in North American they have to play with NBA rules, who cares. Basketball is basketball. No matter what the rules you should win more than 2 out of 34 times!

And if you believe the rules make so much of a difference what does that say about Team USA who has won gold in the last three competitions with 100% FIBA rules and FIBA refs. So Team USA can totally dominate playing with FIBA rules and refs but these soft Euroleague teams can only win 2 out of 34 games playing with NBA rules refs? How pathetic.

There is a reason why one league is so much better.

Another fun fact. Right now the only Euroleage team to advance undefeated out of the quarter-finals to the Final Four is Real Madrid.

So Real Madrid is a top 4 Euroleague team. They visited the US this summer and lost to both NBA teams they played, the Grizzlies who are a good team but also the lowly Raptors put a beating on them.

Ether

[kennethgriffin]

125 goes into 875 exactly 7 times.

The number 875 is 7x as much as 125.

Therefore, it's 7:1.

moron


listen


it clearly states that from 104 games. the nba has won .875% of its games

which means they went 91 wins - 13 losses


.875 is the percent of wins

not the total games played

.125 is the percent of losses

not the total losses



yes 125 x 7 = 875

your math for that is correct. but it doesn't have a god damn thing to do with the winning percentage

you're dividing a losing percentage into a total win percentage. you have to divide by the total games played. not with the wins


F*****G IDIOT

[maximL]

moron


listen


it clearly states that from 104 games. the nba has won .875% of its games

which means they went 91 wins - 13 losses


.875 is the percent of wins

not the total games played

.125 is the percent of losses

not the total losses



yes 125 x 7 = 875

your math for that is correct. but it doesn't have a god damn thing to do with the winning percentage

you're dividing a losing percentage into a total win percentage. you have to divide by the total games played. not with the wins


F*****G IDIOT

lol you listen..

875: 125
if you add 125 to 875
(add loses and wins and divide by wins by total)
875/ 1000 = 0.875
91 : 13
if you add 13 to 91
91 / 104 = 0.875
7 : 1
if you add 1 to 7
7 / 8 = 0.875

How is this hard to understand?

[kennethgriffin]

lol you listen..

875: 125
if you add 125 to 875
(add loses and wins and divide by wins by total)
875/ 1000 = 0.875
91 : 13
if you add 13 to 91
91 / 104 = 0.875
7 : 1
if you add 1 to 7
7 / 8 = 0.875

How is this hard to understand?


the problem is you're using a ratio of 7 being worth 100%

it was originally said its closer to 90% than 70%

and an idiot said that 7:1 is the same as 70%

but its not

[FKAri]

THIS thread is the reason why I do not like using odds when presenting information. It is far easier for people to not get what you're saying as compared to say, percentages. It's funny how the sports world adopted this shit.

[Xsatyr]

875: 125
if you add 125 to 875
(add loses and wins and divide by wins by total)
875/ 1000 = 0.875
91 : 13
if you add 13 to 91
91 / 104 = 0.875
The answer is... Vagine cakes! Now stfu with this math bs. NBA > Rest of the world aka third world countries.

[deja vu]

OMFG seriously?

WOW....I have been saying all this time here the average IQ of this forum is about 65 to 70..........it's now actually being confirmed though.
If you were not a member of this forum, our average IQ would have been a little bit higher. :lol

[Euroleague]

I like how you conveniently only mention the games in Europe where the Euroleague teams have home court advantage and the NBA teams are dealing with jet leg. When the roles are reversed and the Euroleague teams come to North American to play they are 2-32. Yes you read that right 2-32 on NBA teams home court. So as you see home court is a big advantage, especially when the visiting team has to cross an ocean. So really those scrubs have really won 9 out of 50 games.

And if you mention that in North American they have to play with NBA rules, who cares. Basketball is basketball. No matter what the rules you should win more than 2 out of 34 times!

And if you believe the rules make so much of a difference what does that say about Team USA who has won gold in the last three competitions with 100% FIBA rules and FIBA refs. So Team USA can totally dominate playing with FIBA rules and refs but these soft Euroleague teams can only win 2 out of 34 games playing with NBA rules refs? How pathetic.

There is a reason why one league is so much better.

Another fun fact. Right now the only Euroleage team to advance undefeated out of the quarter-finals to the Final Four is Real Madrid.

So Real Madrid is a top 4 Euroleague team. They visited the US this summer and lost to both NBA teams they played, the Grizzlies who are a good team but also the lowly Raptors put a beating on them.

It's 2-31, not 2-32 you lying bastard.

[BBallZen83]

Maybe that .875/.125=7 :facepalm
The way probability works is that the total probability of a sample space must be 1. The sample space is made up of two events, either USA wins or a European team wins. The probability that the US wins is .875, and the probability that a Euro team wins is .125.

The two probabilities equal up to one. Thus the universe doesnt implode upon itself. Dividing the probability of the US winning, by the probability of the European team winning is like creating a conditional probability of the US team winning given that the European team wins. As you can see this makes no damn sense. Therefore, dividing .875 by .125 is in fact the number 7, but in terms of probability is nonsensical.

[Euroleague]

The way probability works is that the total probability of a sample space must be 1. The sample space is made up of two events, either USA wins or a European team wins. The probability that the US wins is .875, and the probability that a Euro team wins is .125.

The two probabilities equal up to one. Thus the universe doesnt implode upon itself. Dividing the probability of the US winning, by the probability of the European team winning is like creating a conditional probability of the US team winning given that the European team wins. As you can see this makes no damn sense. Therefore, dividing .875 by .125 is in fact the number 7, but in terms of probability is nonsensical.

Put down the pipe.

[BBallZen83]

Put down the pipe.
Calm down there tiger. Just correcting bad math. Not making statements about the superiority of US basketball vs. Euro basketball. Hope you enjoyed the lesson.:cheers:

[Xsatyr]

The way probability works is that the total probability of a sample space must be 1. The sample space is made up of two events, either USA wins or a European team wins. The probability that the US wins is .875, and the probability that a Euro team wins is .125.

The two probabilities equal up to one. Thus the universe doesnt implode upon itself. Dividing the probability of the US winning, by the probability of the European team winning is like creating a conditional probability of the US team winning given that the European team wins. As you can see this makes no damn sense. Therefore, dividing .875 by .125 is in fact the number 7, but in terms of probability is nonsensical.

:biggums:

[Xsatyr]

Calm down there tiger. Just correcting bad math. Not making statements about the superiority of US basketball vs. Euro basketball. Hope you enjoyed the lesson.:cheers:

If you play 16 games and win 14 that means your winning percentage is .875.
Your opponents winning percentage is .125 with 2 wins out of 16.
The ratio is 14-2 which reduces to 7-1. Now stfu.

[BBallZen83]

:biggums:
lol, thats the way probability works. Dividing the probability of the US winning by the probability of the European team winning is the formula for a conditional probability. The probability of Event A given event B occured is equal to the probability of event A divided by the probability of event B. So dividing the probability of the US winning by the probability of the European team winning is equivalent to saying "hey, this is the probability of the US winning given that the European team won!" Its just conditional probability. Look it up on google.

[dannywpt]

I know. The level of stupidity here is shocking.

This is like the ultimate quote of irony.

[Xsatyr]

lol, thats the way probability works. Dividing the probability of the US winning by the probability of the European team winning is the formula for a conditional probability. The probability of Event A given event B occured is equal to the probability of event A divided by the probability of event B. So dividing the probability of the US winning by the probability of the European team winning is equivalent to saying "hey, this is the probability of the US winning given that the European team won!" Its just conditional probability. Look it up on google.

I'll post this one more time...

If you play 16 games and win 14 that means your winning percentage is .875.
Your opponents winning percentage is .125 with 2 wins out of 16.
The ratio is 14-2 which reduces to 7-1. Now stfu.

[BBallZen83]

If you play 16 games and win 14 that means your winning percentage is .875.
Your opponents winning percentage is .125 with 2 wins out of 16.
The ratio is 14-2 which reduces to 7-1. Now stfu.
That is the ratio of your wins to my wins. Different than the probability of either you or I winning.

[BBallZen83]

I'll post this one more time...

If you play 16 games and win 14 that means your winning percentage is .875.
Your opponents winning percentage is .125 with 2 wins out of 16.
The ratio is 14-2 which reduces to 7-1. Now stfu.

Your math is correct, but its not a probability of winning. Now if you added 7+1 that would be 8 games played, and the probabilities are the same still. What you are saying is a non-sequiter to the point. at 7 wins to 1 win, I am still winning almost 9 times out of 10. Christ...

[BBallZen83]

I'll post this one more time...

If you play 16 games and win 14 that means your winning percentage is .875.
Your opponents winning percentage is .125 with 2 wins out of 16.
The ratio is 14-2 which reduces to 7-1. Now stfu.
Trust me brosef, I understand math. I do it for a living.

[tomkiddo91]

It's 2-31, not 2-32 you lying bastard.

This is when you know Euroleague is struggling :roll: :roll: :roll:

[BBallZen83]

Ahhh... The beauty of math. It just is. You can't argue about it's subjectivity, like with sports, due to it's non-subjective nature. Some one has to be completely right, and some one else has to be completely wrong. :rockon:

[Xsatyr]

That is the ratio of your wins to my wins. Different than the probability of either you or I winning.

Agh! That is what I am talking about. That is what derailed this thread bc the op said the ratio was almost 9-1. He was not talking about probability and neither was the person you quoted. So why are you?

[BBallZen83]

Agh! That is what I am talking about. That is what derailed this thread bc the op said the ratio was almost 9-1. He was not talking about probability. Why are you?

lol, cheers. You are correct sir. The ratio is close to 9-1, but it is exactly 7-1. My bad, I didn't catch the op saying that. I only saw the guy dividing the two probabilities and thought he was using that as a measure of probability(which some people were trying to argue incorrectly later on). My bad though. I know my math, but apparently my reading comprehension was off on this one a bit. So no hard feelings buddy. Still pals? haha

[Xsatyr]

lol, cheers. You are correct sir. The ratio is close to 9-1, but it is exactly 7-1. My bad, I didn't catch the op saying that. I only saw the guy dividing the two probabilities and thought he was using that as a measure of probability(which some people were trying to argue incorrectly later on). My bad though. I know my math, but apparently my reading comprehension was off on this one a bit. So no hard feelings buddy. Still pals? haha

Damn you! You stole my next post.

Touche sir on the humility.

[BBallZen83]

This forum could use a little humility now and then.

[KG215]

It's 2-31, not 2-32 you lying bastard.
:oldlol:

Like another poster said, you know you've got Euroleague really messed up when he's down to calling people names and cursing over something this petty.

[Dr.J4ever]

I have a question for all here. Is Euroleague the most entertaining guy on this site or what? Man, he's hilarious. It's really a wonder that there are actual people on this planet with views like his!

[josh99]

I heard it was 8.4:1.2

[Kiddlovesnets]

Most people dont give a shit about those weak teams in Europe, most of them get blown out by an average Div II NCAA team easily.