George Jones passed away today

[OldSkoolball#52]

Most people here probably do not know who he was.

One of music's most influential singers and symbolic of an era gone by, and now frozen in the archives of time.

RIP George!

[OldSkoolball#52]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWNCNyEuYI

[KevinNYC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWNCNyEuYI
Just came back here to post that.

A true great one. His autobiography is absolutely an amazing read. As a lifelong alcoholic he was introduced to cocaine by the Muscle Shoales, AL police force. They gave him coke because they knew he would be their biggest customer. When his wife tried to move him out of town to get him clean, they arrested her a trumped up traffic charge and basically kidnapped him and gave him some more coke.

My first exposure to him was from a country-punk band in NYC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_v9cmjr9Qg)that was just to early to catch the alt-country wave. They would have been big. As a rock fan at the time, I pretty much knew only Johnny Cash and very little other country music. They played originals and punk covers and other country covers. Since I didn't recognize the non-punk covers, I thought they wrote most of them.

I really thought they wrote He Stopped Loved Her Today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKzxuilk88). :facepalm

In the book, he says that final song is actually made from three different sessions because he was never sober enough to get through the whole song in one take.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

not a fan of country music, but know he was a big presence in that genre. rip

[KevinNYC]

not a fan of country music, but know he was a big presence in that genre. rip

Yeah, but others like Frank Sinatra and Elvis Costello respected him a lot. He was one of those guys who can be appreciated by folks outside that genre.

His voice was extra twangy and when I first got my wife into him, she couldn't listen to him for more than a couple of songs at first.

Elvis Costello does a great version of his song called A Good Year for the Roses. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKXqemNwlA) Amazingly sad song about divorce.

[KevinNYC]

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Merle Haggard put it best, perhaps: “The world has lost the greatest country singer of all time. Amen.”

And Dolly Parton added, “My heart is absolutely broken. George Jones was my all time favorite singer and one of my favorite people in the world.”

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[boozehound]

Just came back here to post that.

A true great one. His autobiography is absolutely an amazing read. As a lifelong alcoholic he was introduced to cocaine by the Muscle Shoales, AL police force. They gave him coke because they knew he would be their biggest customer. When his wife tried to move him out of town to get him clean, they arrested her a trumped up traffic charge and basically kidnapped him and gave him some more coke.

My first exposure to him was from a country-punk band in NYC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_v9cmjr9Qg)that was just to early to catch the alt-country wave. They would have been big. As a rock fan at the time, I pretty much knew only Johnny Cash and very little other country music. They played originals and punk covers and other country covers. Since I didn't recognize the non-punk covers, I thought they wrote most of them.

I really thought they wrote He Stopped Loved Her Today (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKzxuilk88). :facepalm

In the book, he says that final song is actually made from three different sessions because he was never sober enough to get through the whole song in one take.
he didnt write that either, though it was his last real hit.
Always been a fan, iconic country voice

[KevinNYC]

he didnt write that either, though it was his last real hit.

Yeah, I realize he used songwriters, but my point was I thought this local bar band wrote that song, not knowing it was the biggest hit of George Jones's career. I may not have even known his name. I also thought they wrote The Green, Green Grass of Home and Tonight The Bottle Let me Down. I recognized when they did a New York Dolls or Social Distortion cover though.

[rufuspaul]

Drunk HeeHaw mother****er. RIP

[OldSkoolball#52]

Yeah, I realize he used songwriters,


Just based on personal observation it seems like country singers more than any other genre of artists do this. Never really been sure why.

[Akrazotile]

Just based on personal observation it seems like country singers more than any other genre of artists do this. Never really been sure why.



Still wonder why this is :durantunimpressed:

[KendrickPerkins]

same amount of red bars on both gimmick accounts

no matter what characters you come up with, red is your destiny.

:cheers:

cheers man.

[L.Kizzle]

Still wonder why this is :durantunimpressed:
Pop singers (the original pop singer though.) The likes if Frank Sinatra, Johnny Mathis, Tony Bennett, Barbra Streisand, The Mills Brothers, Liza Minnelli, Billy Eckstine, ect.

[Akrazotile]

Pop singers (the original pop singer though.) The likes if Frank Sinatra, Johnny Mathis, Tony Bennett, Barbra Streisand, The Mills Brothers, Liza Minnelli, Billy Eckstine, ect.


True, good point

[SugarHill]

rnb singers too

[Akrazotile]

same amount of red bars on both gimmick accounts

no matter what characters you come up with, red is your destiny.

:cheers:

cheers man.


I come here to discuss ideas and share a few laughs, not give a shit about rep or what my social standing and popularity on a message board is.

:cheers:

[Lakers Legend#32]

How the hell did he live this long?

[FillJackson]

Pop singers (the original pop singer though.) The likes if Frank Sinatra, Johnny Mathis, Tony Bennett, Barbra Streisand, The Mills Brothers, Liza Minnelli, Billy Eckstine, ect.
Tons of pop singers today use songwriters. This is how modern pop music is made (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/the-song-machine)

[QUOTE]Most of the songs played on Top Forty radio are collaborations between producers like Stargate and

[FillJackson]

Just heard a couple of Kacey Musgaves songs. She seems pretty interesting. Seems to reacting against country cliches.

Edit:
Just heard a third song. If I was teenager girl living a small town I found too narrow, I would be blasting her all night and all day.

[KendrickPerkins]

I come here to discuss ideas and share a few laughs, not give a shit about rep or what my social standing and popularity on a message board is.

:cheers:
same man.

:cheers:

[Akrazotile]

Tons of pop singers today use songwriters. This is how modern pop music is made (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/the-song-machine)



This has happened multiple times before. The Girl Groups came out of Brill Building, Motown and Stax had house bands and house producers.

Nashville's style of country music is very much a factory. They find the best people for the best parts. Not everyone who can sing is good looking. Not every good looking singer can write songs. Nashville studio musicians are amazing even if they are anonymous. I know two musicians who had very modest local careers who got publishing contracts. They get singed up for a year or two to basically go to an office everyday and write songs. The record producers put out notice who has an album coming out and what style of song they are looking for. So when Kenny Chesney (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/songwriter-spotlight-shane-mcanally-tells-stories-behind-the-hits-20150219?page=2) is recording, you write a song that fits Kenny Chesney. The publishers realize that you are just gambling when writing songs ....nobody really knows when a hit is coming. So by having a building full of songwriters, they are giving themselves more rolls of the dice. Know that if just a couple hit it big, it will pay for the whole enterprise.

Very good info, Fil. Thanks!

:cheers:

[L.Kizzle]

Tons of pop singers today use songwriters. This is how modern pop music is made (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/the-song-machine)



This has happened multiple times before. The Girl Groups came out of Brill Building, Motown and Stax had house bands and house producers.

Nashville's style of country music is very much a factory. They find the best people for the best parts. Not everyone who can sing is good looking. Not every good looking singer can write songs. Nashville studio musicians are amazing even if they are anonymous. I know two musicians who had very modest local careers who got publishing contracts. They get singed up for a year or two to basically go to an office everyday and write songs. The record producers put out notice who has an album coming out and what style of song they are looking for. So when Kenny Chesney (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/songwriter-spotlight-shane-mcanally-tells-stories-behind-the-hits-20150219?page=2) is recording, you write a song that fits Kenny Chesney. The publishers realize that you are just gambling when writing songs ....nobody really knows when a hit is coming. So by having a building full of songwriters, they are giving themselves more rolls of the dice. Know that if just a couple hit it big, it will pay for the whole enterprise.
Cool. I knew current pop singers have a belly of writers. Just giving mention to the past.

I'm a member of ASCAP and BMI. Sucks they don't have a bunch of events here in Houston. I'll have to travel.

[FillJackson]

Speaking of ASCAP
**** This Town
Lyrics
Well, I came down to Nashville in 1993
'Cause my friend Jim said Nashville had money growin' right on the trees
So I thought I'd go pick some, and I don't mean musically.

Now it's 4 years later, and I'm wonderin' where I went wrong
Shook a lotta hands, ate a lotta lunch, wrote a lotta dumbass songs
But I couldn't get a break in Nashville, if I tried my whole life long

So, **** this town...**** this town
**** it end-to-end, **** it up and down
Can't get noticed -- can't get found -- can't get a cut, so
**** this town.

Hey, this ain't country-western!
It's just soft-rock feminist crap!
And I thought they'd struck bottom back back in the days of Ronnie Milsap
Now they can't stop the flood of assholes: there ain't a big enough ASCAP.

Sure, I like old Tim Carroll, and BR5-49
But Nashville don't need that noise, no,
Nashville'll do just fine
As long as there's a moron market
And a ****** in a hat to sign.

**** this town! **** this town!
****...this...town.