Why don't professional sports teams just have private showers?

[-p.tiddy-]

On NFL Network today they were debating if the Jason Collins news would make it awkward in NFL showers, as though everyone is going to start being suspicious of everyone.

I have what I think is a simple solution to the whole shower debacle...give athletes private showers!

these are multi-million dollar sports teams...some BILLION DOLLAR TEAMS...it isn't like that is a major expense

they have private toilets right?...just give them private showers as well...isn't it time we evolve our shower rooms past the huge group jail like setting?

at my Jr. High and High School, the group shower rooms never got used anyway...they collected spider webs...and I played football!...practice took place after school and then everyone just went home to shower, no one even wanted to shower around each other.

[knickballer]

Situation being overblown again. Do people think Jason Collins is going to rape his teammates in the shower or something?

[-p.tiddy-]

Situation being overblown again. Do people think Jason Collins is going to rape his teammates in the shower or something?
no I don't think so...probably just scared he is going to dream about them at night and jerk off to them

IMO trying to force all the ignorant athletes to just stop being ignorant is MUCH MUCH harder than just giving them private showers


honestly, even without the fear of gay people I would think they would want private showers anyway...

[JMT]

That this was a topic of debate, and that people thought it merited watching and repeating, shows just how insipid our society has become.

Do people really believe that Collins is that much of a rarity? The only thing different about him and all the other gays in sports is that he has admitted to it. It's truly sad that's considered a big deal.

[iamgine]

How do you know they don't have private showers?

[HardwoodLegend]

I agree.

And, that was exactly the same case with my jr. high school after football practice. Personally, I didn't want to shower with other dudes out of fear that my diminutive flaccid **** would be the butt of every joke around school the next morning.

Didn't play football in high school, but dudes regularly used the community shower since they practiced in the morning before school.

[-p.tiddy-]

How do you know they don't have private showers?
I didn't until all the talk on NFL Net...they were debating weather or not this would cause issues in NFL showers, as though most or all NFL showers are big shared rooms...

first thing that came to my mind was "why do these multi-million dollar teams even have shared shower rooms to begin with"?

it is like just because that is how it started out we have to continue that tradition?...just put up walls, like you do with toilets...problem solved, privacy aquired

[rezznor]

How do you know they don't have private showers?
no kidding. hell, even the gym i go to has private showers.

[Balla_Status]

On NFL Network today they were debating if the Jason Collins news would make it awkward in NFL showers, as though everyone is going to start being suspicious of everyone.

I have what I think is a simple solution to the whole shower debacle...give athletes private showers!

these are multi-million dollar sports teams...some BILLION DOLLAR TEAMS...it isn't like that is a major expense

they have private toilets right?...just give them private showers as well...isn't it time we evolve our shower rooms past the huge group jail like setting?

at my Jr. High and High School, the group shower rooms never got used anyway...they collected spider webs...and I played football!...practice took place after school and then everyone just went home to shower, no one even wanted to shower around each other.

That's gross and weird dude. I have been taking showers in large rooms of dudes since 6th grade.

The largest period of the day was 4th period back in HS and so the coaches had football during that period and then go to lunch immediately after. So you pretty much had to shower.

Too many dudes taking a puerto rican shower too.

[Eric Cartman]

On NFL Network today they were debating if the Jason Collins news would make it awkward in NFL showers, as though everyone is going to start being suspicious of everyone.

I have what I think is a simple solution to the whole shower debacle...give athletes private showers!

these are multi-million dollar sports teams...some BILLION DOLLAR TEAMS...it isn't like that is a major expense

they have private toilets right?...just give them private showers as well...isn't it time we evolve our shower rooms past the huge group jail like setting?

at my Jr. High and High School, the group shower rooms never got used anyway...they collected spider webs...and I played football!...practice took place after school and then everyone just went home to shower, no one even wanted to shower around each other.

The team that showers together stays together.

[Zan Tabak]

Gays or no gays, I'd pass on a group shower.

[-p.tiddy-]

That's gross and weird dude. I have been taking showers in large rooms of dudes since 6th grade.

The largest period of the day was 4th period back in HS and so the coaches had football during that period and then go to lunch immediately after. So you pretty much had to shower.

Too many dudes taking a puerto rican shower too.
I don't think my schools were out of the norm, I can remember a few years back ESPN radio having a segment on group showers becoming less and less...

And okay ill ask, what is a Puerto rican shower? Lol

[Balla_Status]

I don't think my schools were out of the norm, I can remember a few years back ESPN radio having a segment on group showers becoming less and less...

And okay ill ask, what is a Puerto rican shower? Lol

Using Axe/cologne in place of a real shower.

[HomieWeMajor]

Then how will teammates know who the longest in the shower is ?

[Reef]

I can picture it now, "Yo Jason, why yo dick hard homey?"

[Iceberg Slim]

Situation being overblown again. Do people think Jason Collins is going to rape his teammates in the shower or something?

no but he might stare a little too long

[lefthook00]

I don't get why the whole public shower thing is so awkward here in America.

[9erempiree]

Players showering with each other brings team chemistry. You help your teammates during the game and you wash one another.

Players have been doing this for the longest time.

It's weird to have a gay player washing you down. You want a straight teammate to wash you down.

[Bandito]

Using Axe/cologne in place of a real shower.
That is just retarded. We puertorricans take 2 or 3 showers a day here in the island. In fact we make fun of americans due to them taking one shower a day or even showering at all. In fact when I was in the military that used to happen a lot.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

the key word is team. unless u play an individual sport, you work as a team, play as a team, shower as a...

[Draz]

Their grown men and in the business they have to act as if they are in a professional setting, even in the non professional environment, behind closed doors. Whatever happens in the locker rooms and in the showers, gym, should stay between faculty.

If a teammate is gay or bisexual, it will of course make it an issue in some peoples mind and head. But, if you look at it, there's actors in movies and shows that play in sexual or nude films of same or opposite sex. I'm sure if you got paid millions you wouldn't mind if your teammate, friend, co-worker, is checking you out as long as he isn't physically harming you or mentally abusing you, giving you the impression to feel some type of way.

[-p.tiddy-]

the key word is team. unless u play an individual sport, you work as a team, play as a team, shower as a...
so you would rather shower as a group if given the choice???...because it makes you feel like better team mates?

serious question

[Patrick Chewing]

What I wanna know is if male WNBA and College coaches get to shower with the girls or hang out in the locker room while they're naked too.

[knickballer]

I don't think my schools were out of the norm, I can remember a few years back ESPN radio having a segment on group showers becoming less and less...

And okay ill ask, what is a Puerto rican shower? Lol

We never took showers back when I played football. There was showers but no one used them and we all just took one when we came home. It's a hastle bringing towels, shampoo, spare clothes every day and there would always be the same two upperclassmen assholes who would always shower and make everything uncomfortable for everyone else. I'm talking about smacking asses, playing with their dongs, etc.

[knickballer]

Players showering with each other brings team chemistry. You help your teammates during the game and you wash one another.

Players have been doing this for the longest time.

It's weird to have a gay player washing you down. You want a straight teammate to wash you down.

:oldlol:
I'm sorry but that's pretty damn gay.

[BrooklynZoo]

It's weird to have a gay player washing you down. You want a straight teammate to wash you down.

ditto

[knickballer]

ditto

I don't want any other dude washing me down -gay or straight. That's why I have my own hands.

Do people actually let other dudes wash them down in the showers? :wtf:

[StocktonFan]

Situation being overblown again. Do people think Jason Collins is going to rape his teammates in the shower or something?

If i was in the shower with someone i find attractive, i'm not going to lie and say i wont look. Lets be real... why should a gay get to? EQUAL RIGHTS!

[knickballer]

If i was in the shower with someone i find attractive, i'm not going to lie and say i wont look. Lets be real... why should a gay get to? EQUAL RIGHTS!

Well, there's a time and place for everything. He(or the gay person) must understand that his presence may make others around him feel uncomfortable and even defensive around them or if he's checking them out in your example. He can't be allowed in the shower room if he's acting gay(no pun)

[L.Kizzle]

I remember in high school (I heard) these two dudes on the football team got into a nude fight over a bar of soap.

I didn't play football so I did not witness this event.

[knickballer]

I remember in high school (I heard) these two dudes on the football team got into a nude fight over a bar of soap.

I didn't play football so I did not witness this event.

:roll:
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard..

[L.Kizzle]

Greeks used to wrestle each other naked all the time. Nowadays everyone is scared of dick s
You think current wrestling is bad now with tights, imagine them naked. Imagine a nude pedigree from Triple H, a nude torture rack from Lex Luger, a nude outsiders edge from Scott Hall. A stinkface from Rikishi is damn near nude though.

[Unstoppabull]

I seriously don't believe that pro sports teams' locker rooms don't have private showers.

[BurningHammer]

I seriously don't believe that pro sports teams' locker rooms don't have private showers.
Unless you are at the level of a Scottish Third Division soccer team.

[JtotheIzzo]

On NFL Network today they were debating if the Jason Collins news would make it awkward in NFL showers, as though everyone is going to start being suspicious of everyone.

I have what I think is a simple solution to the whole shower debacle...give athletes private showers!

these are multi-million dollar sports teams...some BILLION DOLLAR TEAMS...it isn't like that is a major expense

they have private toilets right?...just give them private showers as well...isn't it time we evolve our shower rooms past the huge group jail like setting?

at my Jr. High and High School, the group shower rooms never got used anyway...they collected spider webs...and I played football!...practice took place after school and then everyone just went home to shower, no one even wanted to shower around each other.

Lot of shit talkin in the showers, I remember in college we used to drink in the showers sometimes after big games.

There are few venues where players are forced to stand around and talk to each other. The shower is that spot.

No one is looking at anyone's junk, gay dudes aren't running around trying to f*cked 24/7, Jason Collins is a 34 year old man, he ain't some hormone ravaged teenager.

SMFH

[Styles p]

You think current wrestling is bad now with tights, imagine them naked. Imagine a nude pedigree from Triple H, a nude torture rack from Lex Luger, a nude outsiders edge from Scott Hall. A stinkface from Rikishi is damn near nude though.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[HarryCallahan]

You think current wrestling is bad now with tights, imagine them naked. Imagine a nude pedigree from Triple H, a nude torture rack from Lex Luger, a nude outsiders edge from Scott Hall. A stinkface from Rikishi is damn near nude though.

Nude Hurancanrana :eek:

[-p.tiddy-]

Lot of shit talkin in the showers, I remember in college we used to drink in the showers sometimes after big games.

There are few venues where players are forced to stand around and talk to each other. The shower is that spot.

No one is looking at anyone's junk, gay dudes aren't running around trying to f*cked 24/7, Jason Collins is a 34 year old man, he ain't some hormone ravaged teenager.

SMFH
You don't need to preach to me that Collins isn't interested in looking (although he very well might be) preach it to all the young homophobes in the NBA

Jizzo, serious question, if you were given the option of public showers or private showers would you prefer public for all the drinking and shit talkin?

I'm trying to get a sense of how many really would rather shower as a group...

[-p.tiddy-]

We never took showers back when I played football. There was showers but no one used them and we all just took one when we came home. It's a hastle bringing towels, shampoo, spare clothes every day and there would always be the same two upperclassmen assholes who would always shower and make everything uncomfortable for everyone else. I'm talking about smacking asses, playing with their dongs, etc.
There was a dude on one of my teams that used to walk around the locker room with his dck in his hand and go from person to person asking them to check him for STDs lol

He was making people uncomfortable for laughs, and it was pretty funny...but I can imagine showering next to him he would probably take that stuff much further

[knickballer]

There was a dude on one of my teams that used to walk around the locker room with his dck in his hand and go from person to person asking them to check him for STDs lol

He was making people uncomfortable for laughs, and it was pretty funny...but I can imagine showering next to him he would probably take that stuff much further

:oldlol: Same exact thing. There was a big fat ass linemen who would always be naked in the team room and do jumping jacks. Then he would also put his balls in his hand and walk around..

And that's exactly why no one went in the shower room besides a selective few(4 or 5players) lol

[Balla_Status]

:oldlol: Same exact thing. There was a big fat ass linemen who would always be naked in the team room and do jumping jacks. Then he would also put his balls in his hand and walk around..

And that's exactly why no one went in the shower room besides a selective few(4 or 5players) lol

I had teammates in soccer that would do the helicopter right in front of the coaches.

[HomieWeMajor]

In America do students shower together after a sports lesson ?

[Rubio2Gasol]

Never understood the whole shower together thing myself. Changing room is fine - but a shower is a private thing.

[RidonKs]

agreed thats a super easy solution to a somewhat complex problem. one should always take advantage of those. especially since these sports organizations are worth billions of dollars and installing a new shower system..... would not cost very much

i always thought the 'problem' was less in reference to voluntary voyeurism and more in reference to involuntary arousal lol

[StocktonFan]

In America do students shower together after a sports lesson ?

Yes, atleast at my high school there was just coed showers, but they were open faced. A big room with a bunch of showers along the wall.

[-p.tiddy-]

agreed thats a super easy solution to a somewhat complex problem. one should always take advantage of those. especially since these sports organizations are worth billions of dollars and installing a new shower system..... would not cost very much

i always thought the 'problem' was less in reference to voluntary voyeurism and more in reference to involuntary arousal lol
never thought about this much until the Collins thing but I think it is somewhat similar to a straight guy in on woman's shower even knowing he won't do anything...they would not be the least bit worried about rape or actual sex, they just don't feel comfortable knowing there "might be" someone taking notes...a man in their shower would creep them out

and you know what, they should be creeped out by that, because if I was showering with women then you can bet your ass I'll be looking out of the corner of my eye and sneaking peeks every chance I get...

being a straight man who thinks about sex every 3 minutes (literally on average), and knowing how I would act in a shower with women, the gender I am attracted to...how can anyone blame me for assuming a gay man in a shower full of males would be the same as myself in a shower full of females?

Perhaps it is nothing like that...Collins has been showering with males his whole career and perhaps never once did he "sneak a peek" or think even about sex...but no one knows that but HIM

[RidonKs]

thats actually a funny double standard that goes in the opposite direction of most

nobody bats an eye when a women complains about being uncomfortable showering with even the potential of a man leering at her. yet a man who makes a similar complaint is automatically labeled a homophobe.

[InspiredLebowski]

I imagine it's been answered, but they do.

[Eldrunko247]

I believe gays should be able to marry and all that good shit. I wouldn't want to shower with them though or any other dudes for that matter if I had the choice. You have to be kidding me if you think Jason Collins was somehow able to suppress his gayness in the showers or locker room. He's gay and worships the dong. As if he could block that out just as a straight man could block out titties.

[niko]

On NFL Network today they were debating if the Jason Collins news would make it awkward in NFL showers, as though everyone is going to start being suspicious of everyone.

I have what I think is a simple solution to the whole shower debacle...give athletes private showers!

these are multi-million dollar sports teams...some BILLION DOLLAR TEAMS...it isn't like that is a major expense

they have private toilets right?...just give them private showers as well...isn't it time we evolve our shower rooms past the huge group jail like setting?

at my Jr. High and High School, the group shower rooms never got used anyway...they collected spider webs...and I played football!...practice took place after school and then everyone just went home to shower, no one even wanted to shower around each other.

There is no debacle. Not one athlete around him mentioned showers. It's really strange to think that showering after games is this sexual experience for gay men where they try to get straight guys.

When you shower do you all stand around staring at each other while you do it? You shower, you get out. Some people spend a long time, some are quick. Not everyone starts at the same time.

I hate to break it to all of you, any of you who showered in school, or showered in a locker room after a game, etc. almost 100% were in a shower with a gay person.

[-p.tiddy-]

There is no debacle. Not one athlete around him mentioned showers. It's really strange to think that showering after games is this sexual experience for gay men where they try to get straight guys.

When you shower do you all stand around staring at each other while you do it? You shower, you get out. Some people spend a long time, some are quick. Not everyone starts at the same time.

I hate to break it to all of you, any of you who showered in school, or showered in a locker room after a game, etc. almost 100% were in a shower with a gay person.
of course no athlete has come forward and declared they don't want to shower with him now, but this topic came up several times on various sports media since Collins came out...and like mentioned earlier "IF" I was showering with women (the gender I am attracted to) then you can bet your ass I would be sneaking peeks and looking out the corner of my eye...but I am to assume he would act different than myself for some reason when he is around the gender he is attracted to?

[niko]

of course no athlete has come forward and declared they don't want to shower with him now, but this topic came up several times on various sports media since Collins came out...and like mentioned earlier "IF" I was showering with women (the gender I am attracted to) then you can bet your ass I would be sneaking peeks and looking out the corner of my eye...but I am to assume he would act different than myself for some reason when he is around the gender he is attracted to?

Yes he would because gay men are not women, they are gay men. They've had a lifetime to adjust to being gay and understanding how to act, and they understand there is a segment of the population "off limit" to them. It's not the same as showering with women. Being gay and using the men's room or the men's shower is normal. Showering with women is not normal.

It's honestly not a big deal. If you specifically knew this one person was gay and this one person made you nervous i get it but random stranger A,B or C is gay and they might attack you is strange, no one is doing that.

Maybe it's having gay friends when i was at work the way they talk, etc. it's clear they understand 100% you (me) are not gay. I'd worry more about being in a situation where there is alcohol (like a bar) etc. about a gay person. shower, not so much.

Don't shower with drunk gay people i guess....:lol

[-p.tiddy-]

niko you can't just "adjust" your hormones like that...if I grew up showering with women since birth I would STILL be attracted to naked women today...sexual attraction is the one thing that never goes out of style or gets old for anyone

and you are saying it is different because it is "normal" for them to shower with men?...so under that theory we could all start showering together from here out, men and women, gay and straight, so that it is "normal" to everyone and that way no one will ever be attracted to anyone in a shower...lol...why do you think they separate men and women to begin with?

also, this isn't really about how you personally would act...perhaps you have a million gay pals and would be completely comfortable dancing naked for them in a gay strip club...but you need to realize that not everyone else is like you.

[niko]

niko you can't just "adjust" your hormones like that...if I grew up showering with women since birth I would STILL be attracted to naked women today...sexual attraction is the one thing that never goes out of style or gets old for anyone

and you are saying it is different because it is "normal" for them to shower with men?...so under that theory we could all start showering together from here out, men and women, gay and straight, so that it is "normal" to everyone and that way no one will ever be attracted to anyone in a shower...lol...why do you think they separate men and women to begin with?

also, this isn't really about how you personally would act...perhaps you have a million gay pals and would be completely comfortable dancing naked for them in a gay strip club...but you need to realize that not everyone else is like you.

What do you do in the shower after a game, etc. that you equate it with dancing naked in a gay strip club? :lol You are too freaky for me.

Gay men are not women. The dynamic between gay men and straight men is not a male / female dynamic.

I know now maybe openly 2 gay men as friends and a few women, we had a few at work, not 100 of them. Now i change in the locker room at swimming and there are 2 openly gay men who bring their kids. They don't look at me, they change. They chat about their kids, their houses, their boat (people have money, i feel poor). It's all very boring.

Note: If it bothers you and you found a shower alone, etc. that's cool. That's totally fine and not at all strange. I just think you are applying what is bothering you as a problem that needs solving, it's not - it's just something that is bothering you and some others. It doesn't need to be solved.

[-p.tiddy-]

What do you do in the shower after a game, etc. that you equate it with dancing naked in a gay strip club? :lol You too freaking for me.

Gay men are not women. The dynamic between gay men and straight men is not a male / female dynamic.

I know now maybe openly 2 gay men as friends and a few women, we had a few at work, not 100 of them. Now i change in the locker room at swimming and there are 2 openly gay men who bring their kids. They don't look at me, they change. They chat about their kids, their houses, their boat (people have money, i feel poor). It's all very boring.

Note: If it bothers you and you found a shower alone, etc. that's cool. That's totally fine and not at all strange. I just think you are applying what is bothering you as a problem that needs solving, it's not - it's just something that is bothering you and some others. It doesn't need to be solved.
again I am not comparing gay men to women, I am comparing a gay man in a men's shower (the gender they are attracted to), to a STRAIGHT MAN in a woman's shower (the gender they are attracted to)

the dynamic between a gay man and a MAN I would assume is very very similar to the dynamic between a straight man and a WOMAN

why would you or me assume otherwise?...because you have a couple gay friends that aren't attracted to you?...so if you have a few female friends that aren't attracted to you are you going to assume every female on the planet is also not attracted to you?

[miller-time]

the dynamic between a gay man and a MAN I would assume is very very similar to the dynamic between a straight man and a WOMAN

OK, so you are in the shower with a group of women. Some you find attractive some you don't. What do you do?

Are you going to stand and stare with an erection? Are you going to walk over and start squeezing their tits and ass? Are you going to basically rape them? Or are you going to keep to yourself because it would be socially unacceptable to act like a dirty old man? I'd say the last one. Just because clothes are off doesn't mean social rules fly out the door.

[-p.tiddy-]

OK, so you are in the shower with a group of women. Some you find attractive some you don't. What do you do?

Are you going to stand and stare with an erection? Are you going to walk over and start squeezing their tits and ass? Are you going to basically rape them? Or are you going to keep to yourself because it would be socially unacceptable to act like a dirty old man? I'd say the last one. Just because clothes are off doesn't mean social rules fly out the door.
agreed, I would keep to myself, probably have repeated sex with them all in my thoughts...

so are you suggesting we should be able to shower with women because we wouldn't do anything? If a man was staring in a woman's shower through a hole in the wall they would still find that unacceptable...it would make them uncomfortable...I am sure you understand that right?...so why is it so hard to understand the other way?...why is that double standard there?