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niko
05-03-2013, 09:24 AM
Who remaining is going to challenge them? Young and unexperienced, Memphis took out SA a few years ago. Clippers are done. GS? Going to the finals this year? Can't see it. (Can't really see them beating SA).

I don't see any other outcome.

All Net
05-03-2013, 09:28 AM
I agree

I think matchup wise grizzles matchup well with the spurs and think that will be the conference finals.

Phenith
05-03-2013, 09:29 AM
With Westbrick down they have a legit shot, but the west is going to be a dogfight until the bitter end now I think.

TimmyDuncan
05-03-2013, 09:36 AM
Don't know how you can compare 2011 spurs with 2013 spurs

- Ginobili missed a game and had a broken arm all 5 games he played
- Richard Jefferson was still there and was really really really awful . Now he is replaced by Leonard who is a stud
- Diaw was not there
- Splitter was a rookie and now is a very good player so the spurs have now a big lineup with Duncan and Splitter starting
- 2013 Duncan and Parker are better than 2011 Duncan and Parker

Spurs have changed in 2 years, Memphis has changed in 2 years. It will be a different series. Don't know who win but it can't be compared to 2 years ago

Wonder Bread Kid
05-03-2013, 09:50 AM
Memphis took out SA a few years ago.

San Antonio swept Memphis in 2004.

Oh, I thought this was a "list pointless and irrelavent playoff series results between SA-Mem" thread.

niko
05-03-2013, 09:54 AM
San Antonio swept Memphis in 2004.

Oh, I thought this was a "list pointless and irrelavent playoff series results between SA-Mem" thread.

The series a few years ago were teams with similar pieces at their core. That other series was 9 years ago and everyone was different. One is relevant, one is not. Your post is asinine.

If you think the Grizzlies are a good matchup for you i suggest you take off the homer glasses and think again.

Jyap9675
05-03-2013, 10:08 AM
Hoping that it will be Spurs/Grizz in WCF, our only legit chance to stop lebron from getting his 1.5th ring haha,


relax I kid, I kid

alenleomessi
05-03-2013, 10:16 AM
Who remaining is going to challenge them? Young and unexperienced, Memphis took out SA a few years ago. Clippers are done. GS? Going to the finals this year? Can't see it. (Can't really see them beating SA).

I don't see any other outcome.
like last year right?

Kurosawa0
05-03-2013, 10:18 AM
I wouldn't just give Memphis the win over San Antonio just because they won in two years ago. I think that's going to be a war and the Spurs very well could win it.

retaxis
05-03-2013, 10:19 AM
When was the last time they won the west?

niko
05-03-2013, 10:31 AM
like last year right?
Blake is hurt and they haven't shown they could beat Memphis in Memphis. You thinking VDN comes up with adjustments to counteract these things?

alenleomessi
05-03-2013, 11:04 AM
Blake is hurt and they haven't shown they could beat Memphis in Memphis. You thinking VDN comes up with adjustments to counteract these things?
no but they still have cp3. they are done when they are done. blake was also hurt last season but people didnt really care about that when the spurs swept us.

kurple
05-03-2013, 11:13 AM
this sucks so much ass

this was our season.

Memphis would have been a better 1st round matchup than GSW

Wonder Bread Kid
05-03-2013, 11:31 AM
The series a few years ago were teams with similar pieces at their core. That other series was 9 years ago and everyone was different. One is relevant, one is not. Your post is asinine.

My post was asinine? The entire basis for your prediction is asinine. Just as the Grizzlies are not the same team that got swept in 2004, the Spurs are not the same team that lost in the first round in 2011. A healthy Manu, new role players that are vastly better than that 11 team and an improved bench.

They're both irrelevant series.

Btw, Spurs core then was Tim, Tony, Many with a side of Bowen. Today's core is Tim, Tony, Manu and a side of Kawhi.



If you think the Grizzlies are a good matchup for you i suggest you take off the homer glasses and think again.

Is your reading comprehension as bad as your NBA knowledge or as bad as the Knicks? I never said such a thing. I simply pointed out your moronic logic.

Crafty
05-03-2013, 11:34 AM
With Westbrook out... yeah, they'll beat Thunder.
Against the Spurs won't be easy, but wouldn't surprise anyone

grantz
05-03-2013, 11:36 AM
It's looking like Memphis' year. Zach and Mark Gasol is teaching the Clipper bigs how it's done.

If Memphis makes it all the way through the finals will be interesting. They would have a legit shot if they continue with the way they're playing now.

Booz Vivic
05-03-2013, 11:55 AM
Memphis gonna win if the beat the Clippers, Rockets/Thunder and then Warriors/Spurs definately.

flipogb
05-03-2013, 12:03 PM
Memphis has the best chance against Miami so I hope they win

Artillery
05-03-2013, 12:33 PM
Oh look, everybody's back to overrating Memphis again.

All Net
05-03-2013, 01:11 PM
Oh look, everybody's back to overrating Memphis again.
Saying Memphis could win the west is not overrating them...they are not realisticly losing to OKC without Westbrook.

Artillery
05-03-2013, 02:43 PM
Saying Memphis could win the west is not overrating them...they are not realisticly losing to OKC without Westbrook.

Memphis has won one playoff series in their franchise history...and that was against an injured team two years ago. Saying they're a lock to win the West IS overrating them.

Levity
05-03-2013, 02:46 PM
per zbo himself, his foot has swollen up as big as a baseball, but hes constantly getting treatment on it. Hopefully, he stays healthy the rest of the playoffs.

And yes, if they take out the clippers tonight or this weekend, I see them making it to the WCF. That'll be a great series vs the spurs(most likely)

rmt
05-03-2013, 03:05 PM
Hopefully, Pop has learned his lesson from 2011 - no Bonner or Blair. Rotate Duncan, Splitter and Diaw.

Spurs are better with Leonard, Green and Splitter (didn't play until game 4 in 2011) playing instead of R. Jefferson, George Hill and Blair. I think it'll be Spurs in 6 (if lucky) or 7.

Project018
05-03-2013, 03:18 PM
Memphis has won one playoff series in their franchise history...and that was against an injured team two years ago. Saying they're a lock to win the West IS overrating them.

This. I know Memphis have been looking good no doubt but they have to prove themselves in the playoffs. The series with Clippers not over yet (probably will end tonight though. Clippers offense is pathetic unless their hot from outside) and I still take the Spurs and Pop over Mem anyday.

AussieG
05-03-2013, 06:33 PM
Spurs have got to beat the Warriors first.

These playoffs are unpredictable. Both in terms of the matchups and teams coming back and making it a series, and also the injuries factor.

Y2Gezee
05-03-2013, 07:14 PM
Well certainly them or San Antonio, and that's pretty evenly matched, unless Manu plays great and I'd favor San Antonio.

I do believe that if Memphis could do it again, they'd have kept Gay this season. They need that possible explosive scorer IMO to go all the way.

2010splash
05-03-2013, 07:23 PM
No perimeter offense. San Antonio will crush them and cruise to the Finals.

The Choken One
05-03-2013, 07:58 PM
this sucks so much ass

this was our season.

Memphis would have been a better 1st round matchup than GSW
GS handed Denver the game on a silver platter and they still lost.

"our year"...child please.

Graviton
05-03-2013, 10:55 PM
Watch Clippers win in 7 now. :oldlol:

I swear Memphis/Clippers is the most unpredictable series in past few years, never know who may go off. Right now Matt Barnes is channeling his inner T-Mac.

Graviton
05-26-2013, 12:47 AM
http://i.imgur.com/bZN6p7U.gif

Fallen Angel
05-26-2013, 12:50 AM
:yaohappy: @ Grizzlies beating the Spurs. Now I know who not to take seriously. The OP is a f*cking f*ggot.

ProfessorMurder
05-26-2013, 12:52 AM
http://i.imgur.com/bZN6p7U.gif

I love that gif so much.

Artillery
05-26-2013, 11:22 AM
If you think the Grizzlies are a good matchup for you i suggest you take off the homer glasses and think again.

:oldlol:

Not surprised this shitty thread came from Niko. I'm convinced posters like him and Droid(fans of big market teams) don't watch any games outside of their own ballclubs. Any knowledgeable NBA fan(people that actually watch every team) knew that SA has owned Memphis the past two years. 6-2 against them - The only losses coming in an OT game in Memphis and a late season loss where Pop rested all his starters except Parker. The whole notion that SA is weak against big frontcourts is stupid and ill-informed. Yeah, they looked weak in 2011 when they were coming off a load of injuries and Duncan looked like a zombie due to his sprained ankles. He's destroyed Randolph/Gasol ever since. Also, everybody seems to underrate the hell out of Splitter. His defense is damn good.

Dro
05-26-2013, 12:04 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause:

Nero Tulip
05-26-2013, 12:14 PM
The series a few years ago were teams with similar pieces at their core. That other series was 9 years ago and everyone was different. One is relevant, one is not. Your post is asinine.

If you think the Grizzlies are a good matchup for you i suggest you take off the homer glasses and think again.


:lol what a ****ing moron.

SCdac
05-26-2013, 12:21 PM
All the Spurs haters have exposed themselves with threads like these :oldlol:

SpurrDurr
05-26-2013, 12:53 PM
Another arrogant and totally wrong prediction from a Knicks fan, nothing new.

mjokc
05-28-2013, 12:43 AM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/783811/crazy-laugh-o.gif

Straight_Ballin
05-28-2013, 12:45 AM
A horrible prediction from a bad poster. Shocker.

AussieG
05-28-2013, 12:57 AM
I expected them to win at least one or two games.

Spurs were the better team though.

ukballer
05-28-2013, 02:54 AM
He's not the only one who predicted Memphis were going to win the West. I thought the series would be much more competitive than it was, and yes, I believed Memphis were going to win it too. Spurs were outstanding though.

Don't see why it makes you a Spurs hater if you predict against them though. We saw what happened between Memphis and SA last year, so why was it such a stretch and make you a hater to believe Memphis could win again? :confusedshrug:

Artillery
05-28-2013, 08:13 AM
Don't see why it makes you a Spurs hater if you predict against them though. We saw what happened between Memphis and SA last year, so why was it such a stretch and make you a hater to believe Memphis could win again? :confusedshrug:

Because the Spurs two best players were injured in 2011. Ever since they've dominated Memphis in the regular season. Anybody that's watched the regular season matchups knew that SA figured out Randolph a long time ago.

SCdac
05-28-2013, 08:42 AM
He's not the only one who predicted Memphis were going to win the West. I thought the series would be much more competitive than it was, and yes, I believed Memphis were going to win it too. Spurs were outstanding though.

Don't see why it makes you a Spurs hater if you predict against them though. We saw what happened between Memphis and SA last year, so why was it such a stretch and make you a hater to believe Memphis could win again? :confusedshrug:

At face value, it doesn't. But OP has been hating on the Spurs on ISH for a few years now. Some of the other preemptive "Spurs aren't getting out of the second/third round" threads were also posted by the usual haters. Also, Spurs lost two years ago not one year ago. Since 2011, as mentioned, Spurs have owned the Grizz.

Foster5k
05-28-2013, 08:43 AM
You sure about that?

:coleman:

Purch
05-28-2013, 08:48 AM
The thing that would have annoyed me if I was a spurs fan, wasn't that people were picking against the Spurs, it's that the people who were picking against the Spurs seemed to not even aknowlage how different this Spurs team was from previous spurs teams ( including the 2011 one that lost to memphis). This is the first season where they re-dedicated themselves to playing championship level defense, so 5 minutes of research on basketball reference can show you the differences between this years Spurs, and the 2011 ones or 2012 spurs. So I don't think it's that people picked against the Spurs, but if you're gonna make a prediction at least aknowlage the major factors going into the series.


Like when Niko talked about both teams having similar core pieces to the 2011 series, you could honestly say that nearly every Spurs team since 2003 had similar core pieces; doesn't mean that everything from the talent, to the players put around that core, to the strengths and weakness on those teams haven't changed. I mean the Spurs had 2 different starters than the 2011 series, and a completly different defensive philosphy. So people shouldn't lazily predict, and actually base predictions on the strengths and weakness of the current team. I see people do this with the Heat a lot, the 2011 heat are not the 2013 heat.

jzek
05-28-2013, 08:59 AM
OP showing why he's the Nostradamus of ISH! :applause:

Artillery
05-28-2013, 09:05 AM
The thing that would have annoyed me if I was a spurs fan, wasn't that people were picking against the Spurs, it's that the people who were picking against the Spurs seemed to not even aknowlage how different this Spurs team was from previous spurs teams ( including the 2011 one that lost to memphis). This is the first season where they re-dedicated themselves to playing championship level defense, so 5 minutes f research on basketball reference can show you the differences between this years Spurs, and the 2011 ones or 2012 spurs. So I don't think it's that people picked against the Spurs, but if you're gonna make a prediction at least aknowlage the major factors going into the series.

lol tell me about it. Check out this hideously stupid post from Droid(the resident Laker retard):



This and last season, yes they are. Don't try to fool yourself. Spurs are no longer a defensive squad. They're all run and gun. Look at their three pointers made the first game. No Tim Duncan led team would have done that in the past. Ever. Grizzlies 80's style defense plus the Pacer's 80's style defense. That's real basketball. Not this run and gun garbage.

:oldlol:

Purch
05-28-2013, 09:14 AM
lol tell me about it. Check out this hideously stupid post from Droid(the resident Laker retard):



:oldlol:

Exactly, people just go for the lazy predictions. It's much easier to claim San Antonio is the same fools gold offensive mided team from the last 3 years that didn't play great defense, than to do 2 minutes of research before making a post like that.

Just like it's much easier for causal fans to say Lebron still doesn't have a jump shot. You'd expect more insight from a basketball forum.

K Xerxes
05-28-2013, 09:15 AM
Exactly, people just go for the lazy predictions. It's much easier to claim San Antonio is the same fools gold offensive mided team from the last 3 years that didn't play great defense, than to do 2 minutes of research before making a post like that.

Just like it's much easier for causal fans to say Lebron still doesn't have a jump shot. You'd expect more insight from a basketball forum.

This is a fanwanking forum.

Anaximandro1
05-28-2013, 11:07 AM
The thing that would have annoyed me if I was a spurs fan, wasn't that people were picking against the Spurs, it's that the people who were picking against the Spurs seemed to not even aknowlage how different this Spurs team was from previous spurs teams ( including the 2011 one that lost to memphis)
Exactly.

Leonard and Splitter are huge upgrades over their predecessors in the starting lineup,Green has become a solid player,while Duncan is again the best big man in the game,and Manu does the little things to help the Spurs win games

Then you have Parker,the best point guard in the NBA,playing the best ball of his career.

Spurs D has been spectacular,particularly since G3 WCSF because Duncan,Splitter,Green and Leonard are a good blend of high basketball IQ, length and athleticism.


G3 Warriors 92 pt FG 39.3%

G4 Warriors 97 pt (OT) FG 38.0%

G5 Warriors 91 pt FG 46.7%

G6 Warriors 82 pt FG 38.8%


G1 Grizzlies 83 pt FG 43.2%

G2 Grizzlies 89 pt (OT) FG 34.0%

G3 Grizzlies 93 pt (OT) FG 39.2%

G4 Grizzlies 86 pt FG 37.2%


Spurs' biggest weakness is that Manu and Duncan can't play more than 30-35 minutes at a high level.I think they're still capable of making big plays down the stretch (Duncan scored 13 pt in OT,while the Grizzlies scored 11 pt and Marc Gasol 0 pt),but they need to find a way to survive the first 43 minutes against the Miami Heat juggernaut.

It won't be easy.