Whos most overrated and underrated rappers of all time?

[Bless Mathews]

Most overrated- 2pac aka romantic homo thug supporter
Most underrated-mf doom... Maybe cus of his beautifully simple delivery, or wait , I'm on ish, look him up...

[Bless Mathews]

These rate your rappers queerbag threads are getting old.

No one gives a fck about what your opinion on a rapper is. Fcking fakkit.

Future omega neg.

Stalker.

[B-Low]

Spoiler on how this thread will go....


"Overrated: Everyone most people have heard of"

"Underrated: Everyone nobody's ever heard of"

[Bless Mathews]

Make a thread like a BET but for dudes to discuss dudes vocals.

BET: gangstahomo paradise, opinions valued

What*? Bet? Are u foreign g?

[fiddy]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/537/393/126.png

[CAstill]

You're garbage if you think tupac is overrated.
Pac>>>>Your favorite rapper
MF doom is great though

[GOBB]

Spoiler on how this thread will go....


"Overrated: Everyone most people have heard of"

"Underrated: Everyone nobody's ever heard of"

:applause:

[RidonKs]

guru imo, was carried by a premiere producer

rakim, definitely a trailblazer and good for head nodding but he aint all that

AZ, iunno never been much impressed, i dun really like his voice much

prodigy, thug rap and mostly just another dude carried by his partner's beats




far as underrated there are too many to count, lotta guys who never got limelight thru no fault of their own

[-p.tiddy-]

Rakim is overrated the most on lists IMO...as well as Pac, too many people think Pac is the greatest of all time, he isn't even close

Spice-1 was and has been underrated, and Freddie Gibbs is underrated today




also I actually think Lil Wayne is underrated...in that most people feel like he is complete garbage...he isn't a great lyricist or on Pac's level or Rakim's for that matter, not even close...however, Wayne has been dominating the radio for like 8 years now...currently half the songs that are on the air feature Wayne...he deserves cred for not only staying relevant for so long but also completely dominating in terms of sales and popularity. He is more talented of an artist than most people want to admit.

[RidonKs]

Spoiler on how this thread will go....


"Overrated: Everyone most people have heard of"

"Underrated: Everyone nobody's ever heard of"
lol u always say this exact same thing but ur just pigeonholing a caricature of a supposed hipster. the truth is that its sorta natural by definition that the more overrated characters of rap would be the ones who get a lot of media play and the most underrated characters of rap would be the ones who dont.... fame isn't a meritocracy, for anything but especially not for art. its at least half a crap shoot which inevitably leads to a bunch of invalids making their way into that 'goat list' lexicon and guys who have all the talent in the world but none of the luck. just the way things work out.


btw mf doom couldn't possibly be underrated. anybody who listens to him ranks him appropriately as one of the most outrageous off the wall personalities in hip hop history, among the best producers ever, and a reasonable rapper with a dope voice. his music doesn't lend himself to radio, doesn't make him underrated, just underplayed

[-p.tiddy-]

yes what B-Low said was pretty much just the definition of "overrated" and "underrated"

[Maniak]

every single big name white rapper is overrated.

also j cole.

[GOBB]

Lil Wayne is not underrated and trying to base it on sales and staying relevant is moronic.

[Styles p]

guru imo, was carried by a premiere producer

he might have not been the best lyrically but there was always a message involved plus with the chemistry him and premo had they made tons of classics.

[L.Kizzle]

Spoiler on how this thread will go....


"Overrated: Everyone most people have heard of"

"Underrated: Everyone nobody's ever heard of"
No.

Someone like Silkk the Shocker is underrated.

[Bless Mathews]

Rakim is overrated the most on lists IMO...as well as Pac, too many people think Pac is the greatest of all time, he isn't even close

Spice-1 was and has been underrated, and Freddie Gibbs is underrated today




also I actually think Lil Wayne is underrated...in that most people feel like he is complete garbage...he isn't a great lyricist or on Pac's level or Rakim's for that matter, not even close...however, Wayne has been dominating the radio for like 8 years now...currently half the songs that are on the air feature Wayne...he deserves cred for not only staying relevant for so long but also completely dominating in terms of sales and popularity. He is more talented of an artist than most people want to admit.


Agree with 2 Pac being goat. He's a good rapper, over homo erotic r and b beats. I can't listen to his albums...

But the r???? Comeon!!!! Rakim's delivery, voice and flow is superb. Definitely one of the goats for his era...

Lil Wayne can rap. Hard worker, has a true love and dedication that few have and it shows in his raps. He does need to flip his style up. Time to switch up the clever metaphor/similies raps...

[Bless Mathews]

***brotha lynch is extremely underrated.

Bumpin him since had to gat ya ..goat gang ster rap song btw... Seen him evolve as all real artists do. Sure people know him as gang member rapper first, then that siccness Shit, then now serial killer, but sprinkled in are some really good Shit. And as a rapper , he rips Shit ...

[ace23]

Show me the ratings and I'll tell you who's overrated/underrated.

[-p.tiddy-]

Lil Wayne can rap. Hard worker, has a true love and dedication that few have and it shows in his raps. He does need to flip his style up. Time to switch up the clever metaphor/similies raps...
What he's been doing has been working for him for a very long time though, he probably sees no reason to change when what he does now is constantky #1 on the billboards

Honestly, if Wayne even tried to get deep and meaningful I don't think it would work...he found his niche...goofy comedian swag club stuff

[Rasheed1]

underrated: Ghostface

overrated: 2pac

[RidonKs]

old weezy from carter 1 & especially 2, as well as some of his mixtapes like dedication and draught series that he was making right in the middle of his rise to stardom..... he still had a few clever lines here and there but it didnt dominate his verses. it felt more natural. then he became a punchline machine after he blew up and thats why most people dont like him. all style no substance.

he was never one for hypopylatin on the nature of man or anything like that but that doesnt mean he has to be a fking gag reel

[-p.tiddy-]

old weezy from carter 1 & especially 2, as well as some of his mixtapes like dedication and draught series that he was making right in the middle of his rise to stardom..... he still had a few clever lines here and there but it didnt dominate his verses. it felt more natural. then he became a punchline machine after he blew up and thats why most people dont like him. all style no substance.

he was never one for hypopylatin on the nature of man or anything like that but that doesnt mean he has to be a fking gag reel
what's wrong with being a "gag reel" though? :confusedshrug:

that is what he does...not everything has to be overly serious IMO

http://anotherfashionbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/LW.jpg


instead of hating him for what he isn't people should just accept him for what he is...and IMO he is a legit "artist"...I think he is somewhat a pioneer in the "gag reel" style and half the rappers out today are biting off him...he is also unique to himself, how many other rappers skateboard?

I feel a bit strange sticking up for Weezy because I don't really think he is that great, and I dislike the majority of the stuff he puts out, but the amount of time he has absolutely dominated the billboards repeatedly just can't be denied...he is obviously doing something right

[RidonKs]

dude i just said he wasn't always a gag reel. theres nothing wrong with it a guess, just what i also said about it not really sounding natural.... like ur trying to hard instead of just flowing. listen to carter 2 and carter 3 back2back and i think you'll find, generally speaking anyway its never hard and fast with artistic development, that the transition i described holds.

which side of the transition you prefer is up to personal preference. but i think a lot of the backlash wayne got after he blew up to epic proportions, besides just general hatred of whatevers popular by the industry-h8rs, was a factor of his substanceless styling, joke after joke all following only a handful of formulas that just weren't appealing. to a lot of people anyway, myself included.

it's not about deep vs funny or any dumb black and white dichotomy like that. its about too much of one thing and not enough balance... it happens to a lot of artists i imagine. and it kind of stunts their artistic growth. they get famous because they do something really well, and that something was a product of their creative instinct, like straight from the gut. but once people love that initial product, they start banking on that and attempting to recreate their initial success. but then every ensuing project just sounds like an imitation or replica of the first, ie not as good.... and worse than that, they become one-dimensional to the point that the masses get bored with them.

weezy wasn't exactly like that, he just fostered a style that became excessive. but there are parallels i think.

[Bless Mathews]

what's wrong with being a "gag reel" though? :confusedshrug:

that is what he does...not everything has to be overly serious IMO

http://anotherfashionbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/LW.jpg


instead of hating him for what he isn't people should just accept him for what he is...and IMO he is a legit "artist"...I think he is somewhat a pioneer in the "gag reel" style and half the rappers out today are biting off him...he is also unique to himself, how many other rappers skateboard?

I feel a bit strange sticking up for Weezy because I don't really think he is that great, and I dislike the majority of the stuff he puts out, but the amount of time he has absolutely dominated the billboards repeatedly just can't be denied...he is obviously doing something right

The median (in this case even better than average) age of people that spend the most on music is 14.....
His style is cute... Good. But cute and the kids buy, buy, buy. Can't deny his skill and drive for sure, I just think its time for a style switch up...

[RidonKs]

The median (in this case even better than average) age of people that spend the most on music is 14.....
His style is cute... Good. But cute and the kids buy, buy, buy. Can't deny his skill and drive for sure, I just think its time for a style switch up...
thats definitely true too, hes (been) preaching to the choir that'll actually pay for his services, cant exactly fault him for that

[Bless Mathews]

old weezy from carter 1 & especially 2, as well as some of his mixtapes like dedication and draught series that he was making right in the middle of his rise to stardom..... he still had a few clever lines here and there but it didnt dominate his verses. it felt more natural. then he became a punchline machine after he blew up and thats why most people dont like him. all style no substance.

he was never one for hypopylatin on the nature of man or anything like that but that doesnt mean he has to be a fking gag reel



Word. I think we from the same era... Was gonna post earlier, Paris' the devil made me do it is a straight up classic that no one has heard of..

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=EGdR3WoDI5o

Came out in 91. Still feel it ....timeless.

[Rasheed1]

Word. I think we from the same era... Was gonna post earlier, Paris' the devil made me do it is a straight up classic that no one has heard of..

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=EGdR3WoDI5o

Came out in 91. Still feel it ....timeless.


I remember 'the devil made me do it'..

he had another similar song called "the hate that hate made"

he was on some NOI sh*t like professor griff & sista souljah..

those were some really controversial rappers back in the day.. Wonder if people would even bat an eye at them today..

[Bless Mathews]

dude i just said he wasn't always a gag reel. theres nothing wrong with it a guess, just what i also said about it not really sounding natural.... like ur trying to hard instead of just flowing. listen to carter 2 and carter 3 back2back and i think you'll find, generally speaking anyway its never hard and fast with artistic development, that the transition i described holds.

which side of the transition you prefer is up to personal preference. but i think a lot of the backlash wayne got after he blew up to epic proportions, besides just general hatred of whatevers popular by the industry-h8rs, was a factor of his substanceless styling, joke after joke all following only a handful of formulas that just weren't appealing. to a lot of people anyway, myself included.

it's not about deep vs funny or any dumb black and white dichotomy like that. its about too much of one thing and not enough balance... it happens to a lot of artists i imagine. and it kind of stunts their artistic growth. they get famous because they do something really well, and that something was a product of their creative instinct, like straight from the gut. but once people love that initial product, they start banking on that and attempting to recreate their initial success. but then every ensuing project just sounds like an imitation or replica of the first, ie not as good.... and worse than that, they become one-dimensional to the point that the masses get bored with them.

weezy wasn't exactly like that, he just fostered a style that became excessive. but there are parallels i think.

Dang. Larry meizel??? Word. Exactly.. going to the well everytime.

I think also the pressure of HAVING to make monster hits made it go that route...

His total fixed rojects costs are STAGGERING... If he dont knock Shit out the park, a lot of people could loose $$...

[RidonKs]

lol whos larry meizel?

[-p.tiddy-]

dude i just said he wasn't always a gag reel. theres nothing wrong with it a guess, just what i also said about it not really sounding natural.... like ur trying to hard instead of just flowing. listen to carter 2 and carter 3 back2back and i think you'll find, generally speaking anyway its never hard and fast with artistic development, that the transition i described holds.

which side of the transition you prefer is up to personal preference. but i think a lot of the backlash wayne got after he blew up to epic proportions, besides just general hatred of whatevers popular by the industry-h8rs, was a factor of his substanceless styling, joke after joke all following only a handful of formulas that just weren't appealing. to a lot of people anyway, myself included.

it's not about deep vs funny or any dumb black and white dichotomy like that. its about too much of one thing and not enough balance... it happens to a lot of artists i imagine. and it kind of stunts their artistic growth. they get famous because they do something really well, and that something was a product of their creative instinct, like straight from the gut. but once people love that initial product, they start banking on that and attempting to recreate their initial success. but then every ensuing project just sounds like an imitation or replica of the first, ie not as good.... and worse than that, they become one-dimensional to the point that the masses get bored with them.

weezy wasn't exactly like that, he just fostered a style that became excessive. but there are parallels i think.
I agree with what you are saying but the "masses" or in this case "money" has yet to get bored with Weezy's one-dimension

like I was saying to Bless, why would Weezy feel a need to change anything when what he is doing now still completely dominates the radio waves and billboard charts?...it would be a bad move on his part to attempt a make-over

[Iceberg Slim]

overrated Drake

[-p.tiddy-]

I remember 'the devil made me do it'..

he had another similar song called "the hate that hate made"

he was on some NOI sh*t like professor griff & sista souljah..

those were some really controversial rappers back in the day.. Wonder if people would even bat an eye at them today..
I knew a white guy that had a huge "PARIS" sticker on the back of his car...:facepalm

[Bless Mathews]

lol whos larry meizel?

Spelled his name wrong..

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/my-philosophy/Content?oid=14394466

[RidonKs]

I agree with what you are saying but the "masses" or in this case "money" has yet to get bored with Weezy's one-dimension

like I was saying to Bless, why would Weezy feel a need to change anything when what he is doing now still completely dominates the radio waves and billboard charts?...it would be a bad move on his part to attempt a make-over
but we aren't talking about his success here, we're talking about his music. like i already said i dont fault him for choosing money hoes rims over his art.... loads of people do that. but as a result, i dont much care for his art.

the question you ask "why would weezy feel a need to change" is nonsensical. he's already proven he feels no need to change because he hasn't. he's kept up the same shit. im commenting on why that same shit is unpalatable to me and plenty of others who's taste has been refined past the point of teeny bopping high school dances lol

[Bless Mathews]

I knew a white guy that had a huge "PARIS" sticker on the back of his car...:facepalm


As in black panther Paris? Or just A ****in Paris sticker? Paris is one of the hardest of all time..

[Bless Mathews]

I remember 'the devil made me do it'..

he had another similar song called "the hate that hate made"

he was on some NOI sh*t like professor griff & sista souljah..

those were some really controversial rappers back in the day.. Wonder if people would even bat an eye at them today..
He is black panther Shit, but the song I posted was about how wack mainstream music is... So fitting for today..
You musta not listened to that album entirely, or his next couple. He says some crazy Shit....definitely make people.s eye bat.

[CAstill]

If you don't like some of Pac's joints that's fine
but don't act like he hasn't rhymed over some super hard beats
He's had some of the hardest hitting rap songs of all time.

[Bless Mathews]

If you don't like some of Pac's joints that's fine
but don't act like he hasn't rhymed over some super hard beats
He's had some of the hardest hitting rap songs of all time.


Hahahahahahahaha. Ahhh my stomach.... My stomach. Seriously
? You must know me and am ****ing with me. The beats?????? Bwahahahahaha. Bro. Comeon bro. Beats are the corniest ! And how bout all them men singing??? On EVERY SINGLE ****ING SONG???? hahahahhaah. The MUSIC and beats are absolutely horrendous.... Made from the latest Casio and or korg... The low end ones at that ... Omgosh.

Funniest post of the year nominee. "Super hard beats". Hahahhzhshahshahahahahsh:facepalm
He's a good character that rapped good. Over HORRIBLE beats.

[-p.tiddy-]

but we aren't talking about his success here, we're talking about his music. like i already said i dont fault him for choosing money hoes rims over his art.... loads of people do that. but as a result, i dont much care for his art.

the question you ask "why would weezy feel a need to change" is nonsensical. he's already proven he feels no need to change because he hasn't. he's kept up the same shit. im commenting on why that same shit is unpalatable to me and plenty of others who's taste has been refined past the point of teeny bopping high school dances lol
his music dominates more than 'teeny-boopers'...it dominates the club scene as well, 21 & up...it dominates the entire rap scene in general

and I think you are making my case for underrating him as a artist right now...he isn't the most talented thing ever, but he does have talent, perhaps his gag-real style doesn't appeal to you but it has proven to appeal to the masses

[Rasheed1]

He is black panther Shit, but the song I posted was about how wack mainstream music is... So fitting for today..
You musta not listened to that album entirely, or his next couple. He says some crazy Shit....definitely make people.s eye bat.


Yeah, black panther was more like it..

I had a couple of his singles, but didnt get the whole album..

I just remember he was militant as f*ck and he had some hot beats too..

[-p.tiddy-]

As in black panther Paris? Or just A ****in Paris sticker? Paris is one of the hardest of all time..


THIS PARIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY)

[RidonKs]

He's a good character that rapped good. Over HORRIBLE beats.
hahaha agreed. i think this is the reason i only like a handful of his songs and have never bothered listening to an album of his top to bottom, not ma thang

[Bless Mathews]

Yeah, black panther was more like it..

I had a couple of his singles, but didnt get the whole album..

I just remember he was militant as f*ck and he had some hot beats too..

Word. Fellow dj... Album is classic. Sonic jihad he goes OFF ON bush.

They just don't make it like they used to...

[Bless Mathews]

THIS PARIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY)
Fear of a black hat x10>cb4

[GOBB]

but we aren't talking about his success here, we're talking about his music

Exactly. He isnt too bright to understand that however.

[CAstill]

You're tripping straight up.
Ambitionz az a ridah
Pain
Ballad of a dead soldier
Hailmary
Definition of a Thug *****
Under Pressure
and countless other songs have no men singing with Pac
rapping over hard beats

[-p.tiddy-]

Exactly. He isnt too bright to understand that however.
I'm talking about his actual musical talent being underrated bitch...understand?

[-p.tiddy-]

I brought up his ridiculous success because at some point in time you have to stop blaming the industry or marketing system and start to realize that in order to stay on top that long you have to have at least SOME actual talent.

[Bless Mathews]

You're tripping straight up.
Ambitionz az a ridah
Pain
Ballad of a dead soldier
Hailmary
Definition of a Thug *****
Under Pressure
and countless other songs have no men singing with Pac
rapping over hard beats

Hahahahahah. Bro. Seriously bro. I know you went from kid rock to 2 Pac so ill go easy. And I still think you know me in real life and are fu king with me cus you can't be serious..
Ambitions of a rida??? Bro. Same CORNY 4 bars of CASIO stock pianos and synths that back street boys used. Real type...with a FEMALE SINGING IN CHORUS

pain-corny WITH A FEMALE SINGING ... my god bro.

All right I should have typed, "corny beats with bitches or bitch made n.I.ggas singing. That would have been more exact for you...

Hail Mary beat bangs. Yes. Definition of a thug ok. Cus it was a sampled.beat... No casios ...

Rhis Is from same time period... Yea, played out sample, but slowed way down.. and NO singing on Break. Mixing raps http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=gK7QJP_wGBU

[L.Kizzle]

On the real, cats like Kid N Play, CL Smooth, Kwame and Will Smith are underrated.

[Bandito]

How would rate Eminem? I am curious as people overhere don't really listen to rap and he's one of the few I connected.

[CAstill]

Hahahahahah. Bro. Seriously bro. I know you went from kid rock to 2 Pac so ill go easy. And I still think you know me in real life and are fu king with me cus you can't be serious..
Ambitions of a rida??? Bro. Same CORNY 4 bars of CASIO stock pianos and synths that back street boys used. Real type...with a FEMALE SINGING IN CHORUS

pain-corny WITH A FEMALE SINGING ... my god bro.

All right I should have typed, "corny beats with bitches or bitch made n.I.ggas singing. That would have been more exact for you...

Hail Mary beat bangs. Yes. Definition of a thug ok. Cus it was a sampled.beat... No casios ...

Rhis Is from same time period... Yea, played out sample, but slowed way down.. and NO singing on Break. Mixing raps http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=gK7QJP_wGBU

Nah I don't know you cuz I don't associate with cornballs who
don't ride with Pac. I'm not saying he's had the best beat selection but
he's had some hard beats before. Ballad of a dead soldier is vicious imo.
If you want to say there's better beats out there go ahead
but don't come disrespecting Pac and call him overrated.
That's all. The beats aren't what make Pac great anyways.

[kNIOKAS]

Masta Ace is one of the most underrated and underappreciated rappers of all time.

For the most overrated, I don't know. I always felt if somebody needs to act they bring up Big L and say how great how would have been, but he wasn't. He got killed. Leave it at that...

[CAstill]

How would rate Eminem? I am curious as people overhere don't really listen to rap and he's one of the few I connected.


Eminem would be more overrated than underrated.
He underachieved imo. He could of been better.

[Bandito]

Eminem would be more overrated than underrated.
He underachieved imo. He could of been better.
I think he went down after Marshall Mathers LP too. I love that soundtrack with the exception of "Without Me".

[CAstill]

Masta Ace is one of the most underrated and underappreciated rappers of all time.

For the most overrated, I don't know. I always felt if somebody needs to act they bring up Big L and say how great how would have been, but he wasn't. He got killed. Leave it at that...

Most of the famous rappers that died were on their way to
being better. Biggie, Pac, Pun, and L all were going to be better.

[CAstill]

I'm pretty sure without me is on Eminem show not MMLP.
Could be wrong though.

[L.Kizzle]

Most of the famous rappers that died were on their way to
being better. Biggie, Pac, Pun, and L all were going to be better.
Off course, with the exception of Big Pun, I think they all were 25 or younger.

[Bless Mathews]

Nah I don't know you cuz I don't associate with cornballs who
don't ride with Pac. I'm not saying he's had the best beat selection but
he's had some hard beats before. Ballad of a dead soldier is vicious imo.
If you want to say there's better beats out there go ahead
but don't come disrespecting Pac and call him overrated.
That's all. The beats aren't what make Pac great anyways.


How bout this...ill pm you my phone number, we can finish this discussion. But you sing melodically like in all his hooks, (bitch or bitch made n.I.gga, had corny singing and ill talk like a g as in had 2 gat ya... Deal ?

Pac is a character bro. How many years did it take to go from going to ballet class, to back up dancing for digital underground, to then all a sudden thugged out? Lol. He even said "I didn't have a record till I made a record" smh. Buster. I've been down with gangs. In one rightnnow. Hardest krew along the I5 corridor.. and in the 90's we wernet bumpin hat homo Shit folk...

[Bandito]

I'm pretty sure without me is on Eminem show not MMLP.
Could be wrong though.
Oh wait yes, Marshall MAthers is that one where he sang about killing his wife and dumping her on the river. Eminem show is the one where he talked about killing her mother and burying her and his past int he backyard.:roll:

[Bless Mathews]

Eminem is dope. Anyone tgat says otherwise don't know music and rapping or is a hater. Period

[CAstill]

How bout this...ill pm you my phone number, we can finish this discussion. But you sing melodically like in all his hooks, (bitch or bitch made n.I.gga, had corny singing and ill talk like a g as in had 2 gat ya... Deal ?

Pac is a character bro. How many years did it take to go from going to ballet class, to back up dancing for digital underground, to then all a sudden thugged out? Lol. He even said "I didn't have a record till I made a record" smh. Buster. I've been down with gangs. In one rightnnow. Hardest krew along the I5 corridor.. and in the 90's we wernet bumpin hat homo Shit folk...



If you think having melody is corny or bitch made then that's
your wack ass opinion. IDGAF if he went to school for arts,
he obviously had to move his broke ass to the Bay(Marin) and started
soaking up game. That's when he started being thug
because the Bay forces you to adapt to that environment.
And you being in a gang means what? Nothing.
You like Lynch but he ain't super thug either. He's a character too.
That fool ain't on no kill you up bang bang shit.
That fool on that I met you at elk grove and smoke 2 blunts with you
on the way to Arden Fair mall.

[Wavves]

Eminem is dope. Anyone tgat says otherwise don't know music and rapping or is a hater. Period

Eminem USED to be dope, his last few albums have been absolutely terrible.

I am one of those people who do believe Tupac is overrated also, I think his death factors into that a lot. No doubt he is one of the greats, but people act as if he is the MJ of rap, and it's just not true in my opinion.

[Bless Mathews]

If you think having melody is corny or bitch made then that's
your wack ass opinion. IDGAF if he went to school for arts,
he obviously had to move his broke ass to the Bay(Marin) and started
soaking up game. That's when he started being thug
because the Bay forces you to adapt to that environment.
And you being in a gang means what? Nothing.
You like Lynch but he ain't super thug either. He's a character too.
That fool ain't on no kill you up bang bang shit.
That fool on that I met you at elk grove and smoke 2 blunts with you
on the way to Arden Fair mall.
Haha. Your my new favorite white boy on here . Bro. Come on bro. Call me and Sing in ."how do you want it, growin up as a hustler, nah for real" melody. For real. That'd be cute. We can have a discussion about g Shit. Sing it bro. Nah for real. A hustler. Nah for real and sing your little heart out... AND oh yea psycho active is what my set bumped ... Stop and call me bro. Sing it!!

[CAstill]

Haha. Your my new favorite white boy on here . Bro. Come on bro. Call me and Sing in ."how do you want it, growin up as a hustler, nah for real" melody. For real. That'd be cute. We can have a discussion about g Shit. Sing it bro. Nah for real. A hustler. Nah for real and sing your little heart out... AND oh yea psycho active is what my set bumped ... Stop and call me bro. Sing it!!

For one you sound wack with all that Bro shit.
Second f*ck yo set
Third I give a F*ck if u had Raided as what your set bumped
Fourth Suck my D*ck
I'll have how do you want it in the background as your girl gets ran though
Running yo mouth on the net claiming harderst corridor on the I5 lol
what you banging Canada too? lol shit runs through the whole coast.
I like Lynch and Raided but you're a clown with that Pac disrespect.

[blablabla]

underrated pharahoe monch, illogic, max b, black thought, cunninlynguists cyne as rap groups

overrated i guess most rappers who enjoy great mainstream success someone like t.i

[Bless Mathews]

For one you sound wack with all that Bro shit.
Second f*ck yo set
Third I give a F*ck if u had Raided as what your set bumped
Fourth Suck my D*ck
I'll have how do you want it in the background as your girl gets ran though
Running yo mouth on the net claiming harderst corridor on the I5 lol
what you banging Canada too? lol shit runs through the whole coast.
I like Lynch and Raided but you're a clown with that Pac disrespect.
Bro. Comeon bro. Light bills bro. Gangster bro. Your moms pays your light bill. Bro. Comeon. I-5in it bro. Actually, yea Canada bro. Ha's bro. No forfeiture laws. Bro. I'm over your head. Pre 9-11 Canada hardest part of the set. Sacs de marque bro. Comeon bro. 9-11 took Canada out the picture. Set claimin all along the 5 bro. Comeon. Bro... Seriously.

[Just2McFly]

Drake and Jcole for underrated

[Richie2k6]

overrated: KRS-One
underrated: AZ

[Jackass18]

On the real, cats like Kid N Play, CL Smooth, Kwame and Will Smith are underrated.

Don't know about that. Kid N Play went the movie route and if anything Will Smith is overrated.

[HardwoodLegend]

illogic

I wonder how many times this guy's name has been brought up on this board.

I bought that "got lyrics?" album during my underground phase. He's nice. Great spoken word artist, but he's a bit wordy and unwieldy as an MC.

[ace23]

overrated: KRS-One
Definitely. I hate this thread but I agree with this.

[CAstill]

Bro. Comeon bro. Light bills bro. Gangster bro. Your moms pays your light bill. Bro. Comeon. I-5in it bro. Actually, yea Canada bro. Ha's bro. No forfeiture laws. Bro. I'm over your head. Pre 9-11 Canada hardest part of the set. Sacs de marque bro. Comeon bro. 9-11 took Canada out the picture. Set claimin all along the 5 bro. Comeon. Bro... Seriously.

:rolleyes:
you just sound stupid.

[Bless Mathews]

Definitely. I hate this thread but I agree with this.


Hate the thread but you check it... Smh...

Idiot.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Eminem would be more overrated than underrated.
He underachieved imo. He could of been better.


I'm assuming you mean record sales wise, because lyrically Eminem from 96-01 range was something of which we have never & will never see again.

Dude could make you laugh, cry, cringe & smile all in one line, his use of alliterations and rhyme schemes are stuff of legend and to this day rappers fail to emulate his style.

as far as record sales go..

http://39.imagebam.com/download/YhyItqdMVGCOKhscBb0E8Q/18748/187475610/sc.png

[blablabla]

Sean Price he's underrated too

[ace23]

Hate the thread but you check it... Smh...

Idiot.
How would I know if I hate the thread without checking it, dumbass?

[Bless Mathews]

How would I know if I hate the thread without checking it, dumbass?

You already checked it and replied dip dip s.h.it. too cool for school attitude is very telling, cracker

[Bless Mathews]

:rolleyes:
you just sound stupid.


Bro. We are typing. How you know what I sound like. Seriously bro. That's just idiotic.

"My flows over your head, I enjoy the aerial view"- big jus.

Sacs de marque bro. Comeon. Bro....

Stay out of grown gangster shit and keep it pushin. Bro.

[ace23]

You already checked it and replied dip dip s.h.it. too cool for school attitude is very telling, cracker
Yes, because the thread can't get better after I've said it sucks.

[Bless Mathews]

Yes, because the thread can't get better after I've said it sucks.

F.

WE ARE TYPING!!!!!!

[AboveTheRim.]

F.

WE ARE TYPING!!!!!!

You're derailing your own thread man, stop acting like you actually care about people acting like they're participating in a conversation instead of arguing on a message board.


I think Childish Gambino is slightly underrated, but he's been getting a lot more exposure lately.

[Bless Mathews]

I'm assuming you mean record sales wise, because lyrically Eminem from 96-01 range was something of which we have never & will never see again.

Dude could make you laugh, cry, cringe & smile all in one line, his use of alliterations and rhyme schemes are stuff of legend and to this day rappers fail to emulate his style.

as far as record sales go..

http://39.imagebam.com/download/YhyItqdMVGCOKhscBb0E8Q/18748/187475610/sc.png

Eminem 2nd best white rapper of all time.

[Bandito]

Eminem 2nd best white rapper of all time.
Whos the first?:eek:

[Bless Mathews]

Whos the first?:eek:


El-P

[HardwoodLegend]

El-P

You understand El-P's lyrics what... 20% of the time?

I do like him though.

[L.Kizzle]

Def Jef, most underrated.

[Bless Mathews]

You understand El-P's lyrics what... 20% of the time?

I do like him though.

Exactly why I think... After a few listens you hear and understand his genius...

[Norcaliblunt]

Underrated

Bad N Fluenz - Rappin' Ron & Ant Diddley Dog
Esham/Natas
Woodie
Dice
Ganksta NIP
Cougnut
Spice 1
Ill Bill
Paris

[Bless Mathews]

Underrated

Bad N Fluenz - Rappin' Ron & Ant Diddley Dog
Esham/Natas
Woodie
Dice
Ganksta NIP
Cougnut
Spice 1
Ill Bill
Paris
Good list.

Ill bill. Good call.

[L.Kizzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y82xZv22klk

greatest opening verse ever.

[andgar923]

Most underrated is Masta ACE

[L.Kizzle]

Most underrated is Masta ACE
or Kool G Rap

[andgar923]

or Kool G Rap

hmmm

[L.Kizzle]

[QUOTE=andgar923]hmmm

[andgar923]

They may mention him, but he's never on any top 10-20 list.

I've seen him in a few in the past, albeit never on shitty lists like Vibe or XXL.

[B-Low]

Spoiler on how this thread will go....


"Overrated: Everyone most people have heard of"

"Underrated: Everyone nobody's ever heard of"



overrated i guess most rappers who enjoy great mainstream success


Underrated

Bad N Fluenz - Rappin' Ron & Ant Diddley Dog
Esham/Natas
Woodie
Dice
Ganksta NIP
Cougnut
Spice 1
Ill Bill
Paris

:applause:

[longhornfan1234]

Jay Z is overrated. He's a below average lyricist. His flow, charisma, and beat selection over shadows it.