Anyone else loving these low skilled Big Men getting exposed hard in playoffs?

[andremiller07]

My favourite thing come playoffs is watching scrub/low skilled big men everyone rates during the regular season getting trashed by skilled bigmen during the playoffs.

All the skilled/high IQ/naturally talented (minus athletic ability) bigmen in this years playoffs have been thriving from Bogut, Gasol, Duncan, Z-Bo , Landry, David West, Noah, Lopez amongst others I can't think off right now.

On the other hand all these Big men who primarily rely on athletic ability have been getting crapped on

Bogut/Landry clowned Faried/Magee
MGasol/Zbo - overpowered and outskilled the Clippers frontline to the point where it was sad to watch
Duncan >>>>>>Dwight
Ibaka since Westbrook went down has shown to be Bismack Biyombo 2.0
Noah/Lopez were good great


Nothing warms my heart than seeing scrubs who require spoon feeding constantly have to actually step up and fail badly trying to actually do something which requires skills. People need to seriously stop overrating these athlete first types because come playoffs they disappear pretty quickly.

[Andrew Wiggins]

pretty sure you mean unskilled

and ibaka is far from unskilled.

[9erempiree]

As much as I like Noah but he's not very skilled.

Please don't mistake hustle and energy from Noah confused with skill.

[Andrew Wiggins]

As much as I like Noah but he's not very skilled.

Please don't mistake hustle and energy from Noah confused with skill.

passing ability, high level decision making and feel for the game, and ball handling are skills you dolt.

[IncarceratedBob]

pretty sure you mean unskilled

and ibaka is far from unskilled.
ibaka has no basketball skills

to be honest Scott Brooks probably tell him SERGE YOU GRAB BALL AFTER SHOT, YOU NO SHOOT BALL

Ibaka is one of the worst players skill wise in the league, he gets by on out of this continent athleticism..

[Andrew Wiggins]

ibaka has no basketball skills

to be honest Scott Brooks probably tell him SERGE YOU GRAB BALL AFTER SHOT, YOU NO SHOOT BALL

Ibaka is one of the worst players skill wise in the league, he gets by on out of this continent athleticism..

he's one of the best mid range shooters at his position

his sense of timing when blocking shots in unbelievable. those are skills.

[andremiller07]

he's one of the best mid range shooters at his position

his sense of timing when blocking shots in unbelievable. those are skills.
Any type of pressure on his shot its a brick, he just got so much time on shots due to Westbrook getting lots of attention, the dude can't make anything semi contested hes garbage he couldn't even post up James Harden enough said.

[IncarceratedBob]

he's one of the best mid range shooters at his position

his sense of timing when blocking shots in unbelievable. those are skills.
he can make the occasional mid range shot. luck

his sense of timing is instinct, like when he threw spears to catch fish growing up in nigeria. it's instinct. not skill

[Andrew Wiggins]

he can make the occasional mid range shot. luck

his sense of timing is instinct, like when he threw spears to catch fish growing up in nigeria. it's instinct. not skill


he made 59% of his jumpers from 10-15 feet and 47% from 16-23. that's a lot more than the occasional mid range j.

and he's not nigerian, but you're clearly a lowlife racist :roll:

[ProfessorMurder]

It's the best. Maybe some real bigs will actually show up again. ZBo shitting all over anyone the Clippers threw at him was amazing.

[9erempiree]

passing ability, high level decision making and feel for the game, and ball handling are skills you dolt.

:oldlol:

stop it.

[andremiller07]

It's the best. Maybe some real bigs will actually show up again. ZBo shitting all over anyone the Clippers threw at him was amazing.
Couldn't agree more

[mjokc]

he can make the occasional mid range shot. luck

his sense of timing is instinct, like when he threw spears to catch fish growing up in nigeria. it's instinct. not skill

He's one of the best shooting big men in the NBA, god you're an idiot.

[andremiller07]

He's one of the best shooting big men in the NBA, god you're an idiot.
Outside of spoon feeding (open dunks and tip in's) what he shooting in this years playoffs with people actually defending him while Goatbrook is not there?

Makes a big difference when people actually defend you......

[SmackOrH.A.K]

ibaka can knock down an open jumper and has a pretty nice turnaround jumper..but i wouldnt say he is one of the best at his position at that. and he cant really do anything in the post..dude couldnt even post up james harden or chandler parsons.

[BarberSchool]

I'm going to have to jump on board with the fat, slow old dudes here, and say that I too, enjoy fat slow smart@sses clowning athletic idiots in the postseason.

It's something like watching a hunter let an animal get a head start while he casually chews on some jerky and loads his gun.

[andremiller07]

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i thnk this describes my thread pretty well:cheers:

[Graviton]

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i thnk this describes my thread pretty well:cheers:
How deceiving looks can be. :oldlol:

Z-Bo gonna abuse Ibaka so badly after this series police may look into a case of sexual battery and rape.

[Andrew Wiggins]

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[TheAnchorman]

I agree about Griffin... that guy got exposed in the 1st round, he better start living up to all those endorsement deals and KIA optima commercials. I don't want to keep seeing his face on TV if he keep staying this way.

[Graviton]

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[imdaman99]

i hope for my sanity that hibbert does not expose chandler this round. although he is still healing from his injury.
did not look good game 1

[Mr. Jabbar]

Agreed. I feel genuinely sorry for people that still think dwight deserves anything near a max contract.

[SyRyanYang]

fit=unskilled&fat=skilled???
Not sure if retarded or dumb.
Future negged.

[andremiller07]

fit=unskilled&fat=skilled???
Not sure if retarded or dumb.
Future negged.
Where did it say that? I said players who primarly rely on athletic ability over skills, every single one of those guys are fit that I have said, if they are playing over 30mins a game in the playoffs.

[andgar923]

My favourite thing come playoffs is watching scrub/low skilled big men everyone rates during the regular season getting trashed by skilled bigmen during the playoffs.

All the skilled/high IQ/naturally talented (minus athletic ability) bigmen in this years playoffs have been thriving from Bogut, Gasol, Duncan, Z-Bo , Landry, David West, Noah, Lopez amongst others I can't think off right now.

On the other hand all these Big men who primarily rely on athletic ability have been getting crapped on

Bogut/Landry clowned Faried/Magee
MGasol/Zbo - overpowered and outskilled the Clippers frontline to the point where it was sad to watch
Duncan >>>>>>Dwight
Ibaka since Westbrook went down has shown to be Bismack Biyombo 2.0
Noah/Lopez were good great


Nothing warms my heart than seeing scrubs who require spoon feeding constantly have to actually step up and fail badly trying to actually do something which requires skills. People need to seriously stop overrating these athlete first types because come playoffs they disappear pretty quickly.


I know how you feel.

I laughed when people said Griffin was gonna be better than Malone. People laughed at Chuck when he dared to criticize his game.

People today are too caught up with the flashy athletic players, but fail to realize that the game eventually comes down to toughness and skill. That's what the NBA was like in prior eras. Today's fans love to concentrate on the dunks and say "McHale would've been getting KILLED today!!!" no he wouldn't :no:

They 'assume' that because big men from past eras couldn't cross over people, shoot fadeaway 3 pointers and dunk between their legs that they sucked. But as has been proven over and over, athleticism is overrated while toughness is underrated.

The main reason today's wing players flourish is because the big men are weak inside. The lane isn't clogged combined with soft touch rules, their speed and athleticism is enhanced. But once the game becomes physical and grimy, it becomes a different story.

Ewing would be considered a GOD in today's era.

[deja vu]

When a no skill player like Dwight is the best center then you know that today's NBA big men are trash.

I rate Marc Gasol over Dwight though.

[SyRyanYang]

Where did it say that? I said players who primarly rely on athletic ability over skills, every single one of those guys are fit that I have said if they are playing over 30mins a game in the playoffs.

So now muscle definition= athleticism?:lol

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

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[deja vu]

MMA is more about skill. Not surprising to see fat slobs beating up muscular dudes and vice versa. Nothing to do with physique.

[fandarko]

Ewing would be considered a GOD in today's era.

As someone who has watched Ewing, DRob, Hakeem and all star big men such as Daugherty in the 80s and later Mourning, I think these guys would shit on today's competition big time.

As you said, Ewing would be considered an extraterrestrial today, putting up 28/14/3 easily.

[Nash]

I do not like seeing big, fat players who are only in the NBA because they are big. Miami and OKC showed that big players can't handle the skilled and naturally talented players.

[andremiller07]

So now muscle definition= athleticism?:lol
What are you talking about? Show me where I said that?

[fandarko]

It's the best. Maybe some real bigs will actually show up again. ZBo shitting all over anyone the Clippers threw at him was amazing.
Imagine ZBo with 50% of Blake's God given athleticism? He would have owned the league for years and be a perrenial all star.

[SyRyanYang]

What are you talking about? Show me where I said that?
Those UFC pictures you posted suggested that.

[andremiller07]

Those UFC pictures you posted suggested that.
O right well that was more of a joke thing, in the first post is what the thread is really about.

[Facades]

I wouldn't necessarily consider Ibaka unskilled but yeah, Z-Bo will have his way with him in this series.

[andremiller07]

I wouldn't necessarily consider Ibaka unskilled but yeah
:wtf:, so a guy who can only make wide open dunks or shots is skilled? Anything contested or with a 1 hand up results in a brick. He has no post game to speak off even against opposition SG's, his passing is below average as is his IQ, can't create a shot for himself.........still looking for that skill he possess.

[AirFederer]

I agree about Griffin... that guy got exposed in the 1st round, he better start living up to all those endorsement deals and KIA optima commercials. I don't want to keep seeing his face on TV if he keep staying this way.

Du got the worst post moves. To much dribbling, no fakes, no sense of posisition. :confusedshrug:

[Horatio33]

As much as I like Noah but he's not very skilled.

Please don't mistake hustle and energy from Noah confused with skill.

When Pat Riley coached the Lakers, he told them that hustle WAS a skill. It's like athletic ability, your either have it or you don't.

[rmt]

When Pat Riley coached the Lakers, he told them that hustle WAS a skill. It's like athletic ability, your either have it or you don't.

Riley says some STUPID things - like the Lebron thing (did he forget the whole MJ era?). Definition of hustle: to play a game or sport in an alert aggressive manner

That's not a skill - it's EFFORT which can be turned on or off.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hustle

[STATUTORY]

it was fun watching dwight getting worked no doubt

[ralph_i_el]

he made 59% of his jumpers from 10-15 feet and 47% from 16-23. that's a lot more than the occasional mid range j.

and he's not nigerian, but you're clearly a lowlife racist :roll:

you gave %'s that gives no indication of how many he took :facepalm not to bright eh?

He could be hitting at that % taking 2 jumpers a game wide open...

[Psycho]

he made 59% of his jumpers from 10-15 feet and 47% from 16-23. that's a lot more than the occasional mid range j.

and he's not nigerian, but you're clearly a lowlife racist :roll:

So you're saying his offensive game consists of spot up shooting. Damn, check those skills, dude is a beast.

[Psycho]

Riley says some STUPID things - like the Lebron thing (did he forget the whole MJ era?). Definition of hustle: to play a game or sport in an alert aggressive manner

That's not a skill - it's EFFORT which can be turned on or off.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hustle

He was just saying it to encourage his players to hustle. I'm pretty sure he wasn't writing a dictionary :facepalm

[Sakkreth]

Well yeah, but Noah is skilled ?

[andremiller07]

Well yeah, but Noah is skilled ?
Elite passer for a big and does a bit of everything else:confusedshrug: , can lead the fastbreak and plenty of things requiring skills.

[andremiller07]

Just joining the club today can't beleive i missed him for this long

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I just love how all these NBA All-D first team big men need double/triple teams to stop there own man

[PickernRoller]

Just joining the club today can't beleive i missed him for this long

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I just love how all these NBA All-D first team big men need double/triple teams to stop there own man

Some people saying Roy wasn't top 3 earlier in the season.:rolleyes:

[Nick Young]

Agreed. I feel genuinely sorry for people that still think dwight deserves anything near a max contract.
so many idiots still do:facepalm

[Bugz]

Im proud of Roy Hibbet

All the work he put in is showin :rockon: :bowdown:

[Crafty]

Chandler being exposed

[The-Legend-24]

it was fun watching dwight getting worked no doubt
That shit was straight comedy, dude was getting shitted on by grandpa Duncan, dude couldn't do shit. But apparently Kobe was holding him back. :oldlol: Gotta love ISH.

[Trentknicks]

Chandler being exposed
Not entirely, if you've followed or watched both teams throughout the season instead of watching the box score, you'd notice a couple of things:

1. Tyson hasn't been the same since his neck injury

2. Tyson did shut down Hibbert in the regular season games (3 out of 4 of them I believe)

3. I don't think anyone expected Chandler to dominate Hibbert as he is offensively retarded

But I would agree that Chandler has played horribly, however, Hibbert's success is attributed to Chandler's injury and shortcomings as opposed to Hibbert's great play.

[All Net]

Some people saying Roy wasn't top 3 earlier in the season.:rolleyes:

Hibbert is just down to effort...

[Crafty]

Not entirely, if you've followed or watched both teams throughout the season instead of watching the box score, you'd notice a couple of things:

1. Tyson hasn't been the same since his neck injury

2. Tyson did shut down Hibbert in the regular season games (3 out of 4 of them I believe)

3. I don't think anyone expected Chandler to dominate Hibbert as he is offensively retarded

But I would agree that Chandler has played horribly, however, Hibbert's success is attributed to Chandler's injury and shortcomings as opposed to Hibbert's great play.
Actually didn't know he was injured, but still, the regular season doesn't matter now. Chandler was never a treat on the offense, but right now he's not worthy of first team all-defense

[LJJ]

Not entirely, if you've followed or watched both teams throughout the season instead of watching the box score, you'd notice a couple of things:

1. Tyson hasn't been the same since his neck injury

2. Tyson did shut down Hibbert in the regular season games (3 out of 4 of them I believe)

3. I don't think anyone expected Chandler to dominate Hibbert as he is offensively retarded

But I would agree that Chandler has played horribly, however, Hibbert's success is attributed to Chandler's injury and shortcomings as opposed to Hibbert's great play.

In 8 playoff seasons Tyson Chandler has only one where he performed up to standards defensively, yet somehow that season is the norm and not all the other times he has sucked.

[rmt]

Actually didn't know he was injured, but still, the regular season doesn't matter now. Chandler was never a treat on the offense, but right now he's not worthy of first team all-defense

Chandler on 1st team all-defense is a JOKE - especially when Duncan and Gasol are put on the 2nd team.

[La Frescobaldi]

passing ability, high level decision making and feel for the game, and ball handling are skills you dolt.

There's more, too. He is always goes the exact position to make his opponent annoyed.... and stands right there. Then when the guy goes to his second favorite position....... there's Noah. By now there's just 10 seconds left on the clock and more than likely the big guy is out of position for a shot so the paint game was destroyed for that posession.
He defends passing lanes as well as anyone in the league right now.

[Dro]

Not entirely, if you've followed or watched both teams throughout the season instead of watching the box score, you'd notice a couple of things:

1. Tyson hasn't been the same since his neck injury

2. Tyson did shut down Hibbert in the regular season games (3 out of 4 of them I believe)

3. I don't think anyone expected Chandler to dominate Hibbert as he is offensively retarded

But I would agree that Chandler has played horribly, however, Hibbert's success is attributed to Chandler's injury and shortcomings as opposed to Hibbert's great play.
I should be used to Knicks trying their best to not give any of the Pacers credit, lol:coleman:

[B-Easy8]

Yeah I love it.

Too many scrub big men are overrated.

Seeing Ibaka and Griffin get destroyed really proves my point. Probably the two most overrated players in the league.

ZBo and Bogut are balling.

[andremiller07]

This years All Exposed Big Man squad

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All have such amazing smiles

[taabhimself]

ibaka has been expHOEsed the worst.. boy, is he ever not good. everyone slurped him up all season when he was knocking down wide open jumpers but now that westbrook is gone from the equation he is just paaaaaaaltry. soo far from what people made him out to be.

also, until now i hadn't noticed that somehow marc gasol didn't make the all-D first team, but was DPOY? how is that even possible? makes literally 0 sense.

[andremiller07]

This years playoffs MVP/First Ballot Hall of Fame (and the playoffs ain't even over yet)

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6th Man for being exposed
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