who is the Best Post Player ever?

[veilside23]

best player with the best post moves?

is it really olajuwon?

[DuMa]

1. Hakeem
2. Jordan
3. Duncan
4. Barkley
5. Shaq

[tmacattack33]

Hakeem and Barkley. Maybe MJ too. It's hard to say what he woulda done if he was a big man.

Best since 1995 at least.

[Teanett]

michael jordan

[K Xerxes]

From all the players I've seen, it's Hakeem. Mainly because of his supreme footwork. Seriously, I take one look at Dwight, Blake or the other clowns try post up moves... it's a tragedy..

[Fudge]

Hakeem, Shaq and Barkley. Lebron too.

[jcsrplumply]

It's either Olajuwon or Kevin Mchale.

[imnew09]

the one who NBA stars pay half a million to for some training.

[JMT]

McHale

Best repertoire of low post moves of anyone I've seen.

Hakeem second.

I'll take either for my team.

[BlackVVaves]

Someone said Barkley before McHale or Kareem? :biggums:

[AngelEyes]

1. Hakeem
2. Jordan
3. Duncan
4. Barkley
5. Shaq

McHale??????

[caliman]

To not list McHale is criminal.

[JMT]

To not list McHale is criminal.


No kidding. Hakeem is the only one that should be mentioned in the same breath.

[Guy Ledouche]

Shaq.

[G-train]

Yeah I lolled that I didn't see McHale til post 7.

[Mass Debator]

Mark Jackson, Cassell, and Billups deserves a mention. Probably no where close to top 10 though.

[kurple]

1. Hakeem
2. Jordan
3. Duncan
4. Barkley
5. Shaq
no mchale?

[G-train]

best player with the best post moves?

is it really olajuwon?

The Title conflicts with the above.

The best post player ever was Wilt Chamberlain.
Technically he had the best post moves, pretty hard to debate otherwise as he averaged 50ppg one season playing in the post.

As to had the most moves or was the most skilled but didn't average 50ppg, it's probably McHale with Olajuwon a close second. However Olajuwon was a better overall offensive player due to his greater athleticism IMO. He could really finish well with powerful dunks.

[JMT]

Shaq.

If you consider "Lower left shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" and "Lower right shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" as individual low post moves, Shaq would have a total of 4.

[Harison]

Mchale and Hakeem are the only possible players for Top1-2. Who comes on Top is personal choice, some go with Dream, some with McHale.

[G-train]

If you consider "Lower left shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" and "Lower right shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" as individual low post moves, Shaq would have a total of 4.

You are probably joking, but Shaq had a variety of post moves. Otherwise he would be Stanley Roberts.

Short hook. Drop step. Baseline fadeaway. Awkward fadeway/one handed push shot to middle. Seal, overpower and slam over left... seal, overpower and slam over right. Up and under baseline, up and under middle. Turn and face, jab and drive baseline and middle. Seal and spin for the alley oop. Probably more.

[Harison]

If you consider "Lower left shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" and "Lower right shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" as individual low post moves, Shaq would have a total of 4.

Shaq had quite some moves, especially when he had his mobility, but yeah - his skillset was nowhere near of Dream/Mchale.

Rodman used to joke about Shaq: "He has two moves - dunk with one hand, and dunk with two hands." :lol

[DMAVS41]

Hakeem. Kareem. Mchale.

Wilt probably as well, but I didn't see him play.

[PHILA]

Someone said Barkley

Charles may be the best scorer and finisher of all time in the paint (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296225), though that includes more than just post ups.

[jcsrplumply]

Shaq had quite some moves, especially when he had his mobility, but yeah - his skillset was nowhere near of Dream/Mchale.

Rodman used to joke about Shaq: "He has two moves - dunk with one hand, and dunk with two hands." :lol
Even Shaq said he had like 2-3 moves and admitted that Patrick Ewing,David Robinson,Tim Duncan, and even Rik Smits had more moves than him in the post.

[Guy Ledouche]

If you consider "Lower left shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" and "Lower right shoulder into defender in a charge that would be called against anyone else" as individual low post moves, Shaq would have a total of 4.


Ah, I see. I was replying to the title which was just "Best Post Player ever". In that case, I'd say Shaq.

As far as best moves go, it would be Olajuwon or Mchale.

[gengiskhan]

its a toss up btw

Mchale, olajuwon, Jordan

[jzek]

Hakeem and it's not even debatable.

[jzek]

McHale??????

My thoughts exactly. :oldlol:

[Odinn]

Hakeem's game looked fancier, prettier. But that doesn't make him the best exactly. He has a case. A strong case. That's for sure. But I'd say it's KAJ or McHale. Hakeem was a ball-dominant player compared to other bigs. And I think being a ball-dominant player is not a good thing for a big.

PS: As for 'best post player ever', do not say some BS about Shaq. He scored, he drew fouls, he got more double teams than any other player in the history probably, he kicked the ball to shooters greatly. What else do you want from a post player?

[fos]

Since I started watching NBA regularly? Yao Ming.

[TheBigVeto]

It's either Olajuwon or Kevin Mchale.

These guys are the top 2.

[DatAsh]

No kidding. Hakeem is the only one that should be mentioned in the same breath.

In terms of effectiveness, which is what's most important, I'd list Shaq and Wilt above both. Those two basically required a double team in the low post if you didn't want them scoring on 70%+ efficiency. They didn't have the skill that those other two guys had, but they had more than enough size and strength to make up for it.

[Smoke117]

1. Hakeem
2. Jordan
3. Duncan
4. Barkley
5. Shaq


Ever heard of Kareem abdul Jabbar. Obviously not. Kevin Mchale at that. Duncans post game is so ****ing overrated. Better than Mchales? Laughable.

[pauk]

Kareem, Hakeem, McHale.

[Le Shaqtus]

Kwame.

[tgan3]

No mention of Duncan yet?

[LAZERUSS]

1. Wilt
2. Kareem
3. Shaq
4. McAdoo
5. Dantley

[SHAQisGOAT]

Hakeem
McHale
Kareem
Wilt
Dantley

Probably forgetting someone.

People seriously ranking Jordan that high!? Lmao, not that his postgame wasn't good, best for a SG ever I think but let's just say dude like Bird had a better postgame than him.

[DonDadda59]

No mention of Duncan yet?

Came here to post this. Duncan has every shot and every move in the book. He can score effectively with either hand from both blocks. His footwork is impeccable.

[LAZERUSS]

1. Wilt
2. Kareem
3. Shaq
4. McAdoo
5. Dantley

A prime Wilt had entire seasons of near 40 ppg against Russell; entire seasons of 50 ppg against Bellamy; entire season of 40 ppg against Reed; entire season of near 30 ppg against Thurmond; an old Wilt had seasons of 24 ppg on .780 shooting against Lanier; and an old Wilt, in his last season h2h's against Kareem, outshot KAJ .737 to .450.

A prime Kareem had a season of 40 ppg against an old Wilt; 40 ppg against Cowens; an old Kareem had seasons of 30+ ppg on .630 shooting against Hakeem.

A prime Shaq had three straight Finals of 35 ppg on .600 shooting, and was dominating his peers for several years.

A prime McAdoo, in leagues with a near-prime Kareem, was outscoring everyone by solid margins, and outscoring KAJ in his h2h's. His post-seasons in his prime were well over 30 ppg, as well.

A prime Dantley had four seasons of 30+ ppg on .559 to .580 shooting, and his TS%'s were between .635 to .661.

Honorable mention:

McHale
Barkley
Moses (who just pounded his peers, including KAJ.)
Lanier
Gilmore
Hakeem
Duncan

[Bernie Nips]

Yeah I lolled that I didn't see McHale til post 7.

This.

[kNicKz]

To not list McHale is criminal.

^^^^

[Round Mound]

No Mention of Wilt? He Inveted the Post Fadeaway!

Skillwise and Onstoppable

1-McHale
2-Kareem
3-Hakeem

In Terms of Pts Per Shot Taken (Frequent Scorers) Inside Onstoppable

1-Shaq
2-Barkley
3-Wilt

[Iceberg Slim]

The Dream

[Profound]

Hakeem, Shaq and Barkley. Lebron too.
Wut.

[bdreason]

Scoring wise, I would say Hakeem, Kareem, and McHale.


If we're talking full offensive package, I would throw Duncan and Shaq in the mix.

[Shepseskaf]

Hakeem. Kareem. Mchale.
:applause:

/thread

[deja vu]

Hakeem, Shaq and Barkley. Lebron too.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[305Baller]

Offensive post skills? Hakeem

[ShaqAttack3234]

As far as skill and variety of moves, it's McHale or Hakeem, unless you're counting guards like Jordan and Kobe.

But as far as overall effectiveness? I have to go with Shaq or Kareem. So I'd call those 2 the best, and Hakeem or McHale the most skilled.


Even Shaq said he had like 2-3 moves and admitted that Patrick Ewing,David Robinson,Tim Duncan, and even Rik Smits had more moves than him in the post.

Definitely not David Robinson. He really wasn't much of a low post scorer. More of a face up big man who ran the floor and finished as well as any 7 footer you'll see. He'd go to a turnaround jumper in the low post once in a while, and occasionally, a really awkward looking hook, but he wasn't a guy you think of when it comes to post moves. Even Ewing, who I'm a huge fan of and who was more of a low post scorer(at least when young) primarily would go to the baseline fadeaway, or his famous three step move. I saw far less jump hooks, spin moves and up and unders from Ewing than Shaq actually.

[annbafan]

I'm very surprised Garnett hasn't been mentioned yet. His name should be among the bests in terms of post moves.

[PHILA]

2-Barkley
He took the rookie Weatherspoon to school in their first matchup. :pimp:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izgk7wylZnk&t=2m45s



Against Scott Williams in the Finals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydkpH20yDuU&t=5m27s

[necya]

McHale, Olajuwon for sure.
for guards, no one come close to Penny and MJ.

[webberz0044]

My Top 5 - Hakeem, Jordan, McHale, Kareem and Kobe. Duncan deserves a mention.

[BigTicket]

Hakeem may have been the best in terms of skills, but when it comes to post play it is just as important to be physically dominant, and in that regard Wilt, Shaq and Kareem were all better than him.

[salwan]

bird was very good too

[Flush]

At the moment its Z-Bo and Timmy.

[KOBE143]

Top 5
1. Hakeem
2. KAJ
3. MJ
4. Kobe
5. Duncan

[NBASTATMAN]

It's either Olajuwon or Kevin Mchale.


this

[NBASTATMAN]

Top 5
1. Hakeem
2. KAJ
3. MJ
4. Kobe
5. Duncan


Duncan's moves r overrated.. Patrick Ewing was better on the post... The others I can agree with but you missed out on Mchale.

[BIZARRO]

Two words. Sky. Hook.

End thread.

[FKAri]

Joel Anthony when healthy.