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Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:04 PM
Chauncy Billups
Paul Pierce
LeBron James

WeGetRing2012
05-09-2013, 05:05 PM
:facepalm

NumberSix
05-09-2013, 05:08 PM
Dirk
Pierce

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:08 PM
Chauncy Billups
Paul Pierce
LeBron James
pierce 1-2
billips 1-2
james 1-3

RagaZ
05-09-2013, 05:09 PM
You mean 0.5?

Booz Vivic
05-09-2013, 05:09 PM
dirk
barry
unseld

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:09 PM
Dirk
dirk 1-2, still better than lebron's 1-3

LikeABosh
05-09-2013, 05:12 PM
pierce 1-2
billips 1-2
james 1-3
WTF are you trying to say?

pegasus
05-09-2013, 05:13 PM
dirk 1-2, still better than lebron's 1-3
TONS better. Dirk crushed a super team while Lebron shot less than 20% from outside the paint against a young and inexperienced team which got screwed by the refs at the end of game 2, 3, and 4.

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:14 PM
WTF are you trying to say?
truth hurts doesnt it queen james lover?:lol

Trollsmasher
05-09-2013, 05:15 PM
TONS better. Dirk crushed a super team while Lebron shot less than 20% from outside the paint against a young and inexperienced team which got screwed by the refs at the end of game 2, 3, and 4.
I guess Shaq's FMVPs suck too.

Booz Vivic
05-09-2013, 05:17 PM
We forgot the most obvious one.
Jerry West. Finals MVP 1969 NBA Champion 1972

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:17 PM
TONS better. Dirk crushed a super team while Lebron shot less than 20% from outside the paint against a young and inexperienced team which got screwed by the refs at the end of game 2, 3, and 4.
horrible:facepalm and we cant forget about those fourth quarters he had:lol

aj1987
05-09-2013, 05:17 PM
WTF are you trying to say?
Number of Championships won to the number of Finals appearances.

Also, how many of those players won 4 MVP's? How many average 28/7/7 on 50%?

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:17 PM
WTF are you trying to say?

I think he's saying LeBron's sheep are a little too happy over 1 title in 10 years of hype.

NumberSix
05-09-2013, 05:17 PM
dirk 1-2, still better than lebron's 1-3
Hate to break it to you dog, but 3 finals appearances is better than 2.

TheMarkMadsen
05-09-2013, 05:19 PM
I guess Shaq's FMVPs suck too.


Nope, Shaq wasn't his teams # 3 leading scorer nor was he outscored by the other teams bench player

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:20 PM
Number of Championships won to the number of Finals appearances.

Also, how many of those players won 4 MVP's? How many average 28/7/7 on 50%?

So you only care about his doctored stats more than him winning? Interesting. Meanwhile, Jordan 6 titles 6 finals MVPs.

DMV2
05-09-2013, 05:20 PM
dirk 1-2, still better than lebron's 1-3
Actually, Dirk's 1-1 in Finals series.

Hate to break it to you dog, but 3 finals appearances is better than 2.
Depends on the results of each. 2 appearances with 2 wins >>>> 3 appearances, 0 to 1 win.
Hakeem's Finals resume is better than LeBron's Finals resume at the moment. Obviously, LeBron's will look better before his career is over.

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:21 PM
Nope, Shaq wasn't his teams # 3 leading scorer nor was he outscored by the other teams bench player

This.

pegasus
05-09-2013, 05:25 PM
Hate to break it to you dog, but 3 finals appearances is better than 2.
Not when you get humiliated by a 5'5'' midget and average less than 2 points in 4th quarters.:roll:

LikeABosh
05-09-2013, 05:25 PM
pierce 1-2
billips 1-2
james 1-3
You're trying to say going 1 for 2 in the Finals is better than going 1 for 3? Makes no ****ing sense. :facepalm

aj1987
05-09-2013, 05:29 PM
So you only care about his doctored stats more than him winning? Interesting. Meanwhile, Jordan 6 titles 6 finals MVPs.
When did I ever compare Lebron to Jordan? He won a ring last year and is on pace to do it again this year. I would call that winning. Doctored stats? Took a team of scrubs to the finals and had 60+ win seasons twice (with scrubs). Kobe Bryant averaged 35 PPG and his team won 45. You people are beyond help. Some of you trolls have a seriously unhealthy obsession.

NumberSix
05-09-2013, 05:30 PM
So, Magic lost 4 finals. He fcuking sucks, right?

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:31 PM
You're trying to say going 1 for 2 in the Finals is better than going 1 for 3? Makes no ****ing sense. :facepalm

Oh you didn't know that winning 50% of the time was worst than winning 33% of the time? Shame on you lad, I think you need to study your "Iam A LeBron Sheep" textbook.

chosen_wun
05-09-2013, 05:32 PM
Going to the finals 3 times is better than going twice btw... that knicks fan is one stupid poster.

He thought he was making LeBron look worse than Pierce and Billups :facepalm

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:32 PM
Number of Championships won to the number of Finals appearances.

Also, how many of those players won 4 MVP's? How many average 28/7/7 on 50%?
did michael jordan left chicago to join two superstars in detroit or boston back in tha day???:confusedshrug:

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:33 PM
Hate to break it to you dog, but 3 finals appearances is better than 2.
but it took lebron 3 tries:rolleyes:

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:35 PM
Actually, Dirk's 1-1 in Finals series.

Im saying 1-2, meaning 1 out of 2.

Solefade
05-09-2013, 05:37 PM
Oh you didn't know that winning 50% of the time was worst than winning 33% of the time? Shame on you lad, I think you need to study your "Iam A LeBron Sheep" textbook.

LOL of course he'd throw that percentage of winning finals curveball in. So retarded.

aj1987
05-09-2013, 05:37 PM
So, Magic lost 4 finals. He fcuking sucks, right?
Didn't West lose in 8 Finals? Scrub. Wade is better than his, I guess.

DMV2
05-09-2013, 05:38 PM
Im saying 1-2, meaning 1 out of 2.
oh, i see. should have used slashes then. - usually refers to W-L, while slashes usually refers to 4/10 (4/10 FG or FT)

Solefade
05-09-2013, 05:39 PM
but it took lebron 3 tries:rolleyes:

Yo Knicks fan, LeBron made it to the finals more times in 10 years than you got out of the first round of the playoffs. :roll:

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:39 PM
When did I ever compare Lebron to Jordan? He won a ring last year and is on pace to do it again this year. I would call that winning. Doctored stats? Took a team of scrubs to the finals and had 60+ win seasons twice (with scrubs). Kobe Bryant averaged 35 PPG and his team won 45. You people are beyond help. Some of you trolls have a seriously unhealthy obsession.

1. Who cares about Kobe? Not me.

2. Billups and Pierce also have 1 title and 1 finals MVP in the last 10 years like LeBron.

3. He wouldn't have even gotten to the finals if his "scrub" player Gibson didn't score 35+, meanwhile LeBron shot 3-11 on 27% shooting. Go away.

LBJFTW
05-09-2013, 05:41 PM
When did I ever compare Lebron to Jordan? He won a ring last year and is on pace to do it again this year. I would call that winning. Doctored stats? Took a team of scrubs to the finals and had 60+ win seasons twice (with scrubs). Kobe Bryant averaged 35 PPG and his team won 45. You people are beyond help. Some of you trolls have a seriously unhealthy obsession.

No one cares about the accolades of a guy who combines forces and plays on a stacked team. I enjoyed watching Bron more when he played on the Cavs instead of stat padding like he is now. Oh well, facts hurt. Sometimes you just have to face the facts.

aj1987
05-09-2013, 05:41 PM
did michael jordan left chicago to join two superstars in detroit or boston back in tha day???:confusedshrug:
Michael Jordan didn't leave because he had a Scottie Pippen and a Dennis Rodman. The best player that Lebron played with in Cleveland was Mo freaking Williams.
BTW, weren't you taught English in school? You posts make you seem like a 6 year old with Down's.

eSOL
05-09-2013, 05:42 PM
Keep throwing those rocks at the throne.

Will make it even more hilarious when you salty ******s go on suicide watch when we win another chip.

Stay salty.

Solefade
05-09-2013, 05:42 PM
1. Who cares about Kobe? Not me.

2. Billups and Pierce also have 1 title and 1 finals MVP in the last 10 years like LeBron.

3. He wouldn't have even gotten to the finals if his "scrub" player Gibson didn't score 35+, meanwhile LeBron shot 3-11 on 27% shooting. Go away.


Good job putting this into context. :applause:



Why would you make your username Skip Bayless? Troll or not, you know the majority of people think he's a retard right?

aj1987
05-09-2013, 05:44 PM
No one cares about the accolades of a guy who combines forces and plays on a stacked team. I enjoyed watching Bron more when he played on the Cavs instead of stat padding like he is now. Oh well, facts hurt. Sometimes you just have to face the facts.
Weren't the 80's Celtics and Lakers stacked? That means Kareem, Magic, and Bird all suck, right? How is he stat padding? The two complete seasons that he has been in Miami have resulted in two Finals appearances. One which he won.

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:46 PM
Keep throwing those rocks at the throne.

Will make it even more hilarious when you salty ******s go on suicide watch when we win another chip.

Stay salty.

Throne?:oldlol: 1 Title in 10 years, and he's on a throne now? I guess Pierce is sitting on his lap then.

DMV2
05-09-2013, 05:50 PM
Michael Jordan didn't leave because he had a Scottie Pippen and a Dennis Rodman. The best player that Lebron played with in Cleveland was Mo freaking Williams.
BTW, weren't you taught English in school? You posts make you seem like a 6 year old with Down's.
Well, Jordan didn't have Pippen the first 4 years of his career and he was getting his ass whooped by the Celtics and Pistons, how come MJ never quit on his team and join forces with those guys?

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:53 PM
Not when you get humiliated by a 5'5'' midget and average less than 2 points in 4th quarters.:roll:
u got him with dat one:lol

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 05:53 PM
Good job putting this into context. :applause:




If you didn't know, I was referring to the game 6 that placed the Cavs in the finals. The game 6 that LeBron shot 3-11 on 27% shooting, yet the "scrubs" bailed his Lebriking out.

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:54 PM
Going to the finals 3 times is better than going twice btw... that knicks fan is one stupid poster.

He thought he was making LeBron look worse than Pierce and Billups :facepalm
he actually do look worse:facepalm

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:55 PM
So, Magic lost 4 finals. He fcuking sucks, right?
magic 5/9, lebron 1/3, magic iz still better by a landslide:facepalm

pauk
05-09-2013, 05:55 PM
I think he's saying LeBron's sheep are a little too happy over 1 title in 10 years of hype.

I know you are trolling, but just in case.... A championship is a team accomplishment, its an uncontrollable achievement by a single individual if he doesnt have the supporting cast... however what the individual can control is more of the individual achievements that actually come due to his individual talent/skill and that is MVPs... in which he already has 4... and your hero Kobe (you have to be a Kobetard) has only 1.... in 17 years.....

aj1987
05-09-2013, 05:56 PM
Well, Jordan didn't have Pippen the first 4 years of his career and he was getting his ass whooped by the Celtics and Pistons, how come MJ never quit on his team and join forces with those guys?
Lebron was in Cleveland for 7 years, not 4. He couldn't waste his entire prime in Cleveland hoping that they would surround him with better players, would he? He should've just left after his rookie contract. If he left after 4 and joined Wade, he would've won a minimum of 3 rings by now. We're talking about Lebron with a '09, '10, & '11 Wade (when he was a top 3 player). Shit would've been amazing.

willds09
05-09-2013, 05:57 PM
oh, i see. should have used slashes then. - usually refers to W-L, while slashes usually refers to 4/10 (4/10 FG or FT)
my bad man, thats what i meant to put.

willds09
05-09-2013, 06:00 PM
Yo Knicks fan, LeBron made it to the finals more times in 10 years than you got out of the first round of the playoffs. :roll:
this has nuttin to do with tha knicks man, it about how pitiful your fake king iz, 1/3 in tha finals, with one of tha worst 4th quarters peformances of all timez:oldlol:

DMV2
05-09-2013, 06:01 PM
Lebron was in Cleveland for 7 years, not 4. He couldn't waste his entire prime in Cleveland hoping that they would surround him with better players, would he? He should've just left after his rookie contract. If he left after 4 and joined Wade, he would've won a minimum of 3 rings by now. We're talking about Lebron with a '09, '10, & '11 Wade (when he was a top 3 player). Shit would've been amazing.Wade was already a proven winner. That's the difference between MJ and Pippen vs LBJ and Wade.

Pippen wasn't even recruited as if he was gonna be one of the best defenders of all-time, and the best SF of his generation. Who knows how his career would have turned out if he didn't play with MJ, and vice versa. MJ + Pip built their legacies together.

It just looks bad when a former 2-x MVP decides to team up with a former Finals MVP while both are still in their prime.

MJ and Pip, Shaq and Kobe....those guys won together. Built their legacies together.

aj1987
05-09-2013, 06:02 PM
If you didn't know, I was referring to the game 6 that placed the Cavs in the finals. The game 6 that LeBron shot 3-11 on 27% shooting, yet the "scrubs" bailed his Lebriking out.
20/14/8/2/2. He scored 20 points on 11 shots. That's a Magic Johnson stat line. Just because he shot like shit doesn't mean that he didn't impact the game. I like how you conveniently left out the rebounds and assists that he had in that game.

chosen_wun
05-09-2013, 06:02 PM
he actually do look worse:facepalm
You do not want me to post Carmelo's winning % in the playoffs or even the Knicks as a whole over the last 12 years.

aj1987
05-09-2013, 06:06 PM
Wade was already a proven winner. That's the difference between MJ and Pippen vs LBJ and Wade.

Pippen wasn't even recruited as if he was gonna be one of the best defenders of all-time, and the best SF of his generation. Who knows how his career would have turned out if he didn't play with MJ, and vice versa. MJ + Pip built their legacies together.

It just looks bad when a former 2-x MVP decides to team up with a former Finals MVP while both are still in their prime.

MJ and Pip, Shaq and Kobe....those guys won together. Built their legacies together.
LeBron was surrounded by scrubs. There was no way in hell that he was winning a championship in Cleveland, with that management. Answer my question. What else was he supposed to do? Waste away another 3-4 years of his NBA life in that city? It was pretty clear after Cleveland signed a washed up Shaq, that they wouldn't be able to do shit for him in Cleveland. Again, what would any player do, after the management screws up handling a once in a generation player so badly?

Solefade
05-09-2013, 06:09 PM
this has nuttin to do with tha knicks man, it about how pitiful your fake king iz, 1/3 in tha finals, with one of tha worst 4th quarters peformances of all timez:oldlol:

Yeah it does because the star of your team has only gotten out of the first round once before this year. And getting that Cavs team to the 2007 finals regardless if he won or not was an amazing feat anyway. And yeah, he ****ed up in the finals in 2011 but he put the team on his back throughout the entire playoffs with no Bosh and an injured D. Wade.

P.S. you shouldn't be on trying to engage in intelligent debate when you type the as "tha" and replacing your "s" with "z" at the end of words because you look dumb as fvck.

sportjames23
05-09-2013, 06:09 PM
So, Magic lost 4 finals. He fcuking sucks, right?


Lebron 1 for 3 = .333

Magic 5 for 9 = .555

:confusedshrug:

NumberSix
05-09-2013, 06:11 PM
In this century LeBron has 3x more finals appearances than the knicks have series wins.

tazb
05-09-2013, 06:12 PM
Jerry West 1-9.

/thread

PJR
05-09-2013, 06:13 PM
Jerry West 1-9.

/thread

:roll:

DMV2
05-09-2013, 06:14 PM
LeBron was surrounded by scrubs. There was no way in hell that he was winning a championship in Cleveland, with that management. Answer my question. What else was he supposed to do? Waste away another 3-4 years of his NBA life in that city? It was pretty clear after Cleveland signed a washed up Shaq, that they wouldn't be able to do shit for him in Cleveland. Again, what would any player do, after the management screws up handling a once in a generation player so badly?
The Cavs catered to "King James" in every way. On the floor, in the locker room, behind the scenes. He wanted to play LeBron-ball, and that's what they got. Brown even said, they didn't even game plan much, it was all LeBron. And once their leader quit, the rest followed suit.

Their signings turned to be bad, but let's not forget that LeBron quit on them too. If we're gonna give him all the credit for back-to-back 60+ wins then we're going to blame him for their playoff failures too.

Also, if you watched the 2010 Celtics series, Shaq was actually consistent in his performance during that series. He was far from prime Shaq but he did his job and he wasn't the reason why they lost.

jlip
05-09-2013, 06:15 PM
Moses Malone

NumberSix
05-09-2013, 06:17 PM
Jerry West 1-9.

/thread
He's a weird case though. He won 1 championship, but he didn't win the FMVP of his 1 championship. His FMVP was in a loss and the first FMVP ever given out.

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 06:20 PM
I know you are trolling, but just in case.... A championship is a team accomplishment, its an uncontrollable achievement by a single individual if he doesnt have the supporting cast... however what the individual can control is more of the individual achievements that actually come due to his individual talent/skill and that is MVPs... in which he already has 4... and your hero Kobe (you have to be a Kobetard) has only 1.... in 17 years.....

Bryant is overrated aswell. So I don't get your bringing him up. So you only care about his in season stats, but not his egg dropping overrated playoff career? Jordan 6 for 6. You play to win. 1 out of 10 years? Utterly pathetic for someone being tauted the King. Go away.

NumberSix
05-09-2013, 06:24 PM
Bryant is overrated aswell. So I don't get your bringing him up. So you only care about his in season stats, but not his egg dropping overrated playoff career? Jordan 6 for 14. You play to win. 1 out of 10 years? Utterly pathetic for someone being tauted the King. Go away.
Yup. Jordan won 6 times, lost 8. Only difference is he did even less winning in the season he didn't win the title.

chosen_wun
05-09-2013, 06:27 PM
It was only in 2008 when critics started picking LeBron lead teams as contenders for a title.

Yet you will continue to just post "1 ring in 10 yearz derrp".

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 06:27 PM
Yup. Jordan won 6 times, lost 8. Only difference is he did even less winning in the season he didn't win the title.

Are you serious with this post?

Skip Bayless
05-09-2013, 06:29 PM
It was only in 2008 when critics started picking LeBron lead teams as contenders for a title.

Yet you will continue to just post "1 ring in 10 yearz derrp".

So you can erase being a loser as long as critics don't pick you to win? Go away.

aj1987
05-09-2013, 06:33 PM
The Cavs catered to "King James" in every way. On the floor, in the locker room, behind the scenes.
What the heck does that have to do with surrounding him with talent.


He wanted to play LeBron-ball, and that's what they got. Brown even said, they didn't even game plan much, it was all LeBron. And once their leader quit, the rest followed suit.
Brown was an idiot coach. That's why. Also, I would't call it quitting. He had a couple of bad games. When you're the only player on your team who's a superstar/all-star, defenses tend to focus more on you. He needed someone who could help him out scoring wise and there was none. He didn't shoot the ball well in Game 6 against the Celtics but he did have 19 boards and 10 assists along with 3 steals and a block. 27 points on 21 shots, 19 and 10. That's an amazing stat line. Also, IIRC, the game wasn't a complete blowout. I remember the Cav's being about 10 points behind the Celtics. If only he had someone to share the scoring load. You can't expect a guy to average 30/8/8 on over 50% while playing lockdown defense every single game.


Their signings turned to be bad, but let's not forget that LeBron quit on them too. If we're gonna give him all the credit for back-to-back 60+ wins then we're going to blame him for their playoff failures too.
I never blamed/blame his teammates. The management sucked balls.


Also, if you watched the 2010 Celtics series, Shaq was actually consistent in his performance during that series. He was far from prime Shaq but he did his job and he wasn't the reason why they lost.
Game 1 - 11/4 on 33%
Game 2 - 9/4 on 40%
Game 3 - 12/9 on 70%
Game 4 - 17/5 on 56%
Game 5 - 21/4 on 63%
Game 6 - 11/4 on 57%
He was always in foul trouble and a defensive liability. He wasn't the reason they lost. They lost because the GM and owner suck.

And, if he wasn't the reason why they won 60+, just look at what happened to that Franchise after Lebron left.

Wait a couple of years and watch Kyrie bounce from that shitty franchise.

chosen_wun
05-09-2013, 06:36 PM
You are the one who is projecting a make-believe hype on to LeBron that he never got until half a decade into his career.

Or were you expecting him to win titles with his pre-2009 supporting casts ? do you even know how to use context when judging players ? You dont just win championships by being the best player, you still need a capable team around you :facepalm

Straight_Ballin
05-09-2013, 07:11 PM
Michael Jordan didn't leave because he had a Scottie Pippen and a Dennis Rodman. The best player that Lebron played with in Cleveland was Mo freaking Williams.
BTW, weren't you taught English in school? You posts make you seem like a 6 year old with Down's.

He won 3 chips before rodman was even on the team, and he made Pippen by working with him 24/7. We're you dropped on your head as a kid?

Straight_Ballin
05-09-2013, 07:13 PM
You are the one who is projecting a make-believe hype on to LeBron that he never got until half a decade into his career.

Or were you expecting him to win titles with his pre-2009 supporting casts ? do you even know how to use context when judging players ? You dont just win championships by being the best player, you still need a capable team around you :facepalm

Big difference between capable team and stacked team. If you are the best player in the world but can't win with a stacked team, then you are leaps and bounds below Jordan.

sportjames23
05-09-2013, 07:14 PM
Yup. Jordan won 6 times, lost 8. Only difference is he did even less winning in the season he didn't win the title.

MJ 6 for 6, fool. When it comes to playing in the Finals, he's perfect. Stop being shady.

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:15 PM
Michael Jordan didn't leave because he had a Scottie Pippen and a Dennis Rodman. The best player that Lebron played with in Cleveland was Mo freaking Williams.
BTW, weren't you taught English in school? You posts make you seem like a 6 year old with Down's.
mo williams was an all star, wade was top 3 in tha league, pippen wasnt close, and rodman definitely wasnt no bosh:no:

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:17 PM
kobe 5/7, shaq 4/5, lebron still 1/3.

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:20 PM
You do not want me to post Carmelo's winning % in the playoffs or even the Knicks as a whole over the last 12 years.
why u keep going off topic, admit it, lebron iz a loser:lol

PickernRoller
05-09-2013, 07:21 PM
The apologist flocking the thread, one by one. No need to be upset, just accept the facts.

tazb
05-09-2013, 07:28 PM
kobe 5/7, shaq 4/5, lebron still 1/3.

Carmelo 0/0 and will be the rest of his career. :lol

tazb
05-09-2013, 07:29 PM
why u keep going off topic, admit it, lebron iz a loser:lol

LeBron is a loser huh.

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-ST753_COUNT0_NS_20120429215404.jpg

:roll: :roll:

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:32 PM
Carmelo 0/0 and will be the rest of his career. :lol
see your hating bitch ass cant stay on topic can you? how does tha so called "best player of tha game" won his first ring(which was giving by stern and tha refs in an asterik shortened season) on his 3rd try in tha finals?? people dare to call this queen clutch too, michael jordan, bird, and magic dont respect that niguh like that, come on man, lebron iz not bout that life:lol

Straight_Ballin
05-09-2013, 07:33 PM
I really feel bad for Bron stans.....

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:35 PM
Carmelo 0/0 and will be the rest of his career. :lol
rest of career??? now i know something iz really wrong with your ass:facepalm :biggums:

aj1987
05-09-2013, 07:35 PM
He won 3 chips before rodman was even on the team, and he made Pippen by working with him 24/7. We're you dropped on your head as a kid?
Looks like you were.
I never said that they were together since the first Championship :facepalm.

Pippen is considered to be one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time. A Hall of Famer. When did LeBron have anyone as good as him on the Cavaliers? Jordan certainly helped him develop an all round game, though he never worked with him '24/7'.


mo williams was an all star, wade was top 3 in tha league, pippen wasnt close, and rodman definitely wasnt no bosh
You are an idiot who can't even type a coherent sentence, and it's pretty clear that you're under 12.

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:40 PM
Yup. Jordan won 6 times, lost 8. Only difference is he did even less winning in the season he didn't win the title.
:coleman: retard alert.

chosen_wun
05-09-2013, 07:41 PM
why u keep going off topic, admit it, lebron iz a loser:lol
You're not making any sense.

You cant call a player a loser when he has more wins than your teams 3 best players put together...and a ring to show for it.

You're throwing stones from a glass house, I cannot take you seriously. Enjoy the final 3 games of your playoffs.:cheers:

willds09
05-09-2013, 07:46 PM
Looks like you were.
I never said that they were together since the first Championship :facepalm.

Pippen is considered to be one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time. A Hall of Famer. When did LeBron have anyone as good as him on the Cavaliers? Jordan certainly helped him develop an all round game, though he never worked with him '24/7'.


You are an idiot who can't even type a coherent sentence, and it's pretty clear that you're under 12.
was pippen a top 3 scorer and leader before he came to tha bulls, was pippen even capable of doing what wade did?? wade had a given ring before 2010, all star mvp before 2010, and scoring title before 2010, come on man:biggums: :facepalm and stop being a kid trying to correct my english errors (even though we are not in a damn english class) and except tha facts like a man:no:

aj1987
05-10-2013, 12:11 AM
was pippen a top 3 scorer and leader before he came to tha bulls, was pippen even capable of doing what wade did?? wade had a given ring before 2010, all star mvp before 2010, and scoring title before 2010, come on man:biggums: :facepalm and stop being a kid trying to correct my english errors (even though we are not in a damn english class) and except tha facts like a man:no:
You do know that he never played for the Supersonics, right? I'm pretty sure that you never saw the Bulls play. There's a reason why the Jordan-Pippen duo worked so well. Jordan didn't need a 30PPG scorer next to him. He needed a player who could score just a bit and play defense. That's what Pippen did. All-Star MVP? LOL!

TheBigVeto
05-10-2013, 12:17 AM
Chauncy Billups
Paul Pierce
LeBron James

All great players
Better than Kobe :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Droid101
05-10-2013, 12:23 AM
If you don't have tazb and NumberSix on ignore, you're just as dumb as they are.

And that's saying something.

ripthekik
05-10-2013, 12:28 AM
This thread made me proud. :applause:

willds09
05-10-2013, 12:39 AM
All great players
Better than Kobe :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
:biggums:

DaSeba5
05-10-2013, 12:54 AM
Some of you obsess over a grown ass man too much

willds09
05-10-2013, 12:57 AM
You do know that he never played for the Supersonics, right? I'm pretty sure that you never saw the Bulls play. There's a reason why the Jordan-Pippen duo worked so well. Jordan didn't need a 30PPG scorer next to him. He needed a player who could score just a bit and play defense. That's what Pippen did. All-Star MVP? LOL!
yes dummy all star mvp iz something, and duh everybody knows pippen got drafted by seattle and then traded to tha bulls, but thats what point im making, pippen wasnt a top 3 guy when he got drafted. That makes lebron look bad, cuz he didnt need to cheat like that joining wade, like I said jordan would never do that, cuz jordan loves competition, lebron doesnt cuz he want tha pressure off of him. what you gotta say to dat?!:coleman:

dh144498
05-10-2013, 01:38 AM
You mean 0.5?

:lol :roll:

KOBE143
05-10-2013, 01:40 AM
LeBron doesnt deserve to be in that list.. Dude still short of .5 ring..

j3lademaster
05-10-2013, 02:01 AM
but it took lebron 3 tries:rolleyes:Every season should be considered a "try" then. So a team who doesn't think they can win the finals should lose in the 2nd or 3rd round on purpose because they don't want their legacy tainted by a lost finals series?

Obviously the way Lebron lost 2011 is unexcusable.

gengiskhan
05-10-2013, 02:12 AM
Chauncy Billups
Paul Pierce
LeBron James

For LBJ its MVP SWEEP

testament to SHEER DOMINANCE of a season.

Some thing Billups, Pierce or eve 2006 Wade dont have.

winning season MVP & FMVP in same year shows your dominated from 1st reg season game to last game of the NBA Finals.

winning MVPs is still easy. Its NOT a unanimous prize.

winning FMVP in the same yr CONFIRMS your MVP selection as LEGIT.

Hint: Kobe's 2008 MVP is NOT Legit.

aj1987
05-10-2013, 09:21 AM
yes dummy all star mvp iz something, and duh everybody knows pippen got drafted by seattle and then traded to tha bulls, but thats what point im making, pippen wasnt a top 3 guy when he got drafted. That makes lebron look bad, cuz he didnt need to cheat like that joining wade, like I said jordan would never do that, cuz jordan loves competition, lebron doesnt cuz he want tha pressure off of him. what you gotta say to dat?!:coleman:
It is something, all right. Something irrelevant. Nobody gives a crap about the all-star MVP. Pippen was drafted 5th overall. Granted, he was a bench player in his first year. After his breakout year, the Bulls started winning. Jordan is by far the greatest of all time, but a perimeter player cannot single handedly win a ring. How the hell is it cheating, if you switch teams during free agency? According to your "logic", Shaq, KG, Ray Allen, Wilt, etc. all cheats, as they joined superstars in other teams? It's not about the pressure. It's about a shitty franchise surrounding a superstar, a potential top 10 off all time player, with talent like Mo Williams and Boobie Gibson.