Tyson Chandler...everybody's fault but his

[franchize]

Seriously dude? You are taking subliminal shots at guys in the media when your ass got EMBARRASSED by Kevin Garnett and Roy Hibbert in consecutive series. Tyson Chandler is a sorry piece of trash. Until he shows up in the playoffs, he's dead to me. It's one thing to play poorly. Now you're blaming everyone else BUT yourself? When Melo plays poorly, I see him say "I need to play better". I see that out of EVERY Knick except this clown. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read all of these articles. Blaming everyone but yourself. You're going to complain about the offense when you contribute NOTHING on that end. Then you're going to complain about people not doubling and helping you out with Hibbert? Are you serious? :wtf: EVERY OTHER PACER shot under 50%. They weren't running Hibbert off of screens. The put him on the block and dared our "DPOY" to guard him Mano y Mano...and you know what...He BUSTED YOUR AASSSSSSSS! Man up and stop creating controversy in the playoffs. Where's the leadership in that?

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/44137/chandler-the-open-looks-are-there

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/44141/hibbert-chandler-through-three-games

[Clutch]

I decided to take a look at Tyson's career playoff numbers as a Knick.
They are even worse than I expected.

5.9 points,7.8 rebounds,1.1 blocks on 55% shooting

We're paying $10+ mil. for that ??? It's even worse when you consider he's played most of the games against poor rebounding teams in Miami and Boston.
When I better think about it the Celtics aren't even a poor rebounding team. They are horrible. THE WORST.
Only thing that you can call good is 55% shooting and even that is disappointing considering all he does is dunk the ball.

[franchize]

I decided to take a look at Tyson's career playoff numbers as a Knick.
They are even worse than I expected.

5.9 points,7.8 rebounds,1.1 blocks on 55% shooting

We're paying $10+ mil. for that ??? It's even worse when you consider he's played most of the games against poor rebounding teams in Miami and Boston.
When I better think about it the Celtics aren't even a poor rebounding team. They are horrible. THE WORST.
Only thing that you can call good is 55% shooting and even that is disappointing considering all he does is dunk the ball.

10? Try 14

[Clutch]

And before knickscity tries to include Melo in all of this here are his career playoff numbers as a Knick:

28.1 points,7 rebounds,1.9 assists on 40% shooting (27% for three).

His shooting hasn't been good but he's gone against 3 of the best defensive teams in the league unlike Tyson who has gone against 2 of the worst rebounding teams and still can't average more than 8 rebounds per game despite being 7'1.
Also LeBron had worse numbers against the Knicks last year than against any other team he faced in the playoffs. On the other hand every opposing big has been shitting all over Tyson (Bosh last year,KG and Hibbert this year).

Melo almost single-handedly won game 4 vs Miami last year. He hit clutch shots in games 1 and 6 against Boston.
How many games Tyson won for us ? NONE. He's playing awful for 80% of the time and for the 20% of the time he's mediocre. I'm still waiting for a "DPOY" type performance from him in the playoffs.

At the end of the day we brought Melo here to score. We all knew he's not the most efficient guy. He's been scoring. Not efficiently but he's been scoring and he's won some games for us.

We brought Tyson here to defend and paid him almost as much as Melo. He's been HORRIBLE. He can't defend. He can't rebound. Every opposing big is embarrassing him. Soft bitch Bosh abused him last year. 100 year old KG dominated him in round 1. He makes a mediocre offensive player (and I'm being generous) in Hibbert look like Hakeem out there.

TYSON IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT ON THIS TEAM. HE SUPPOSED TO BE A WINNER WHO'LL HELP YOU WIN GAMES IN THE PLAYOFFS BUT ONLY THING HE DID SO FAR IS LOSE GAMES FOR US. F*CK THIS GUY. I WANT HIM OFF THE TEAM. I'VE SEEN ENOUGH.

[franchize]

Knickscity can post that Melo hating stuff in another thread lol

All I know is, I keep hearing Tyson Chandler is a leader and defensive specialist, but in the playoffs he's been anything but. He's taking subliminal shots at teammates, getting stupid techs, and getting KILLED by Roy Hibbert and Kevin Garnett in consecutive series.

[franchize]

Tyson Chandler Regular Season vs Post Season

Chi 04-05 8pts 9reb 1blk < 11 pts 9 reb 2blk
Chi 05-06 5pts 9reb 1blk > 1pt 4reb 0.3blk
Noh 07-08 11pts 11reb 1blk > 8pts 10reb 1blk
Noh 08-09 8pts 8 reb 1blk > 3pts 5reb 0.2 blk
Cha 09-10 6pts 6 reb 1blk > 3pts 2reb 0.8blk
Dal 10-11 10pts 9reb 1blk > 8pts 9reb 0.9blk
NYK 11-12 11pts 9reb 1blk > 6pts 9reb 1blk
NYK 12-13 10pts 10reb 1blk> 5pts 7reb 1blk

Only ONE season in which his play has gotten better come playoff time. All others, he's gotten significantly WORSE in the post season...including this year. Now let me see yall explain this one.

[Rameek]

No one has disputed Tyson isnt playing well. No one has argued that point so obviously something is getting lost in the translation. No one is saying Tyson is worth the money he is getting.
Garnett and Hibbert are better players than Tyson.

NO ONE HAS DEFENDED HIM.

No one here knew Tyson was being added it wasnt a rumor or anything like that. All of sudden Billups was amnestied and Tyson was added.

read the bottom portion
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8576325&postcount=207

[franchize]

No one has disputed Tyson isnt playing well. No one has argued that point so obviously something is getting lost in the translation. No one is saying Tyson is worth the money he is getting.
Garnett and Hibbert are better players than Tyson.

NO ONE HAS DEFENDED HIM.

No one here knew Tyson was being added it wasnt a rumor or anything like that. All of sudden Billups was amnestied and Tyson was added.

read the bottom portion
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8576325&postcount=207


I see what your saying...and I'm calling them out for being hypocrites. I'm beginning to think it's bigger than basketball. We talk about Melo receiving the lionshare of the blame because he's getting the max. So why does Tyson Chandler get less blame than JR Smith. Chandler makes 7 times what JR makes. JR, as pathetic as he's been, has given us WAY more this post season.

And your statement about "If the best player does his job nobody can blame him" is wrong also. When Melo scored 50 and we won...they complained about him only having 1 assist. When we beat the Clippers and Melo had 42 and 8, they complained about the same thing. It's ridiculous. People aren't mad at Melo because he's not getting the job done. People are mad because he isn't LeBron James. Well guess what? LeBron didn't want to come here...and I'm pretty sure those same people are the reason why.

But as I've said after every season...as fans, we can keep trying it the way we've been trying it. Keep blaming your best players and loving the underachieving role players. If you think you don't have power as a fan base...so be it. I've seen guys get traded based on the fans. So as long as you hype up Jason Kidd "doing the little things" and Jared Jeffries "doing stuff that doesn't show up in the stat sheet" ....that's the type of players we'll have on our roster. While Miami, who has just as much salary on the books as us, fills their roster with guys who can actually play. We can employ continue to give Tyson Chandler 14 million dollars and continue to give Jason Kidd 3.5 and continue to pay Marcus Camby 4 million to warm seats on the sideline. We can continue to pay Novak 4 mill in hopes that he hits a 3.

Then when we lose, we'll go back to blaming whoever our best player is. Rinse and Repeat. I don't get it but whatever. Wake me when it's over. Knickscity knows...we've both been diehard Knicks and Jets fans. I'm tired of drinking the Koolaid though man.

[franchize]

Just causing issues!


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2617405/Chandler-Melo.jpg

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2616989/Chandler_Non-Roll_1.jpg

[Rameek]

Just causing issues!


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2617405/Chandler-Melo.jpg

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2616989/Chandler_Non-Roll_1.jpg
Hey thats on the coach. You dont have plays to call and you want to run ISO crap every possession and the players lack the leadership to say lets move the ball then that's what happens. ISO ball makes everyone stand around. If Melo makes an effort to give the ball up and other players step up then its all good.

There have been times this year and I have stated that Melo would pass the ball to open players but they wouldnt take the shot just for him to get the ball back with a few seconds on the clock.

[franchize]

Hey thats on the coach. You dont have plays to call and you want to run ISO crap every possession and the players lack the leadership to say lets move the ball then that's what happens. ISO ball makes everyone stand around. If Melo makes an effort to give the ball up and other players step up then its all good.

There have been times this year and I have stated that Melo would pass the ball to open players but they wouldnt take the shot just for him to get the ball back with a few seconds on the clock.
That's not isolation sir...that's pick and roll. He didn't roll.

[franchize]

Question, what would happen if Carmelo Anthony said "when you have guys playing 25 minutes per game and not scoring once in 7 games, or guys getting destroyed by Roy Hibbert, you're never going to win."

[ClutchOver9000]

Question, what would happen if Carmelo Anthony said "when you have guys playing 25 minutes per game and not scoring once in 7 games, or guys getting destroyed by Roy Hibbert, you're never going to win."

Just leave the Hibbert part in because even though I agree, Kidd is too much of a nice guy and too classy to rip apart like that. :lol

I kinda wish Melo would flat out roast Chandler but lets be honest, the team would fall apart and we all know only he would crucified for it being the star and all...

[Clutch]

Question, what would happen if Carmelo Anthony said "when you have guys playing 25 minutes per game and not scoring once in 7 games, or guys getting destroyed by Roy Hibbert, you're never going to win."
People would kill him. But when Tyson says something like that then it's "leadership".

[Rameek]

People would kill him. But when Tyson says something like that then it's "leadership".
Leadership would have been damn I've been sucking and I have to show great improvement. I want to feel more involved in the offense through PNR. These statements should be made in the locker room not the media.

[franchize]

Leadership would have been damn I've been sucking and I have to show great improvement. I want to feel more involved in the offense through PNR. These statements should be made in the locker room not the media.
It was cowardly. I rant and rave about Jason Kidd being bad all the time. That being said, I'm not a teammate. If I was, I'd be pissed, but I'm going to rise with my teammate regardless. Teams are like families. If me and my wife get into it, I'm not going to go around telling everyone about all the stuff she doesn't do. That's for US to work out. Chandler is a coward for that.

[bluechox2]

tyson has to go, we can get some draft picks and a decent replacement who can also give us 5 and 5

[redrich2000]

In terms of Chandlers performance, there's no doubt he should be playing better, but hasn't Hibbert always had the potential to be a much better player than what he's produced? Huge body, good athleticism and reasonable touch around the basket. Is it not possible that he is just absolutely playing out of his skin this series? Or finally realising that if he plays more aggressively he is capable of being an absolute beast? I guess we won't know until we see what he does after this but there are two sides to every story.

[franchize]

In terms of Chandlers performance, there's no doubt he should be playing better, but hasn't Hibbert always had the potential to be a much better player than what he's produced? Huge body, good athleticism and reasonable touch around the basket. Is it not possible that he is just absolutely playing out of his skin this series? Or finally realising that if he plays more aggressively he is capable of being an absolute beast? I guess we won't know until we see what he does after this but there are two sides to every story.

So how do you explain Kevin Garnett, at age 37, giving him the business. How do you explain him being a no show for the Heat series LAST playoffs despite the Heat not even having a true center?


So instead of everyone being able to focus on the task at hand, you gotta deal with the distraction Tyson Chandler caused with his asinine comments in the media.

[redrich2000]

So how do you explain Kevin Garnett, at age 37, giving him the business. How do you explain him being a no show for the Heat series LAST playoffs despite the Heat not even having a true center?


I'm just speculating, I'm not convinced Hibbert playing well is the reason. But KG didn't have that great a series against us. What were Chandlers rebounding stats against Boston? KG only averaged 12.7 pts which I expect the Celtics were disappointed with.

[franchize]

I'm just speculating, I'm not convinced Hibbert playing well is the reason. But KG didn't have that great a series against us. What were Chandlers rebounding stats against Boston? KG only averaged 12.7 pts which I expect the Celtics were disappointed with.

Garnett averaged 12.7 points, 13.7 rebounds and 1 bpg He had 3 consecutive games of 17,17 and 18 rebounds.

Chandler averaged 5.2 points, 8.7 rebounds and 0.7 blocks

[Rameek]

Tyson isnt healthy. I truly forgot this and I think it was because I was out the country for a good while. No one has to care but if you look back in March the dude was injured and came into the playoffs injured. I dont think he is hurt he is injured and he is gutting it out because there was no Amare, Camby, Wallace and instead of keeping Earl Barron they signed Q Richardson.

I wouldnt be shocked after the season is over Tyson gets some kind of neck and back surgery.

[Clutch]

Tyson isnt healthy. I truly forgot this and I think it was because I was out the country for a good while. No one has to care but if you look back in March the dude was injured and came into the playoffs injured. I dont think he is hurt he is injured and he is gutting it out because there was no Amare, Camby, Wallace and instead of keeping Earl Barron they signed Q Richardson.

I wouldnt be shocked after the season is over Tyson gets some kind of neck and back surgery.
Melo's injured too but nobody used that as an excuse for his poor shooting.
Also Noah is injured and look how well he played. If Tyson played as half as good we would be up in this series.

[Rameek]

Melo's injured too but nobody used that as an excuse for his poor shooting.
Also Noah is injured and look how well he played. If Tyson played as half as good we would be up in this series.
Do they have the same injury? Do you even know what Noah's injury is? Medically can they cover up the injury? Does Melo have the same injuries as Tyson?

So your point is moot and comparison is irrelevant.

I know my dude was injured for months. I know my dude played in a small line up with no help in a back up at center or legit power forward until Kenyon arrived. Tyson did his thing sucked it up played when he shouldnt have because there was no one else. When did Tyson come back to play Clutch? Let's start using some common sense here people. Start putting 2 and 2 together.

You can play hurt you're not suppose to play injured. He has and getting criticized for it.

[franchize]

Noah has plantar fasciitis. That's an injury...not being hurt.

Also, we kept both Earl Barron and Q. Solomon Jones was the one they let go.

That being said, Tyson Chandler hasn't shown me anything for me to believe his play would have been any different whether he's 100% or not. All but one year of his career, Tyson Chandler's production has DECREASED from the regular season to the post season. And that season was NOT the championship year. It was actually his first trip to the playoffs. Should I post the stats again?

[Rameek]

Noah has plantar fasciitis. That's an injury...not being hurt.

Also, we kept both Earl Barron and Q. Solomon Jones was the one they let go.

That being said, Tyson Chandler hasn't shown me anything for me to believe his play would have been any different whether he's 100% or not. All but one year of his career, Tyson Chandler's production has DECREASED from the regular season to the post season. And that season was NOT the championship year. It was actually his first trip to the playoffs. Should I post the stats again?
I know what Noah's injury is I asked Clutch and still it has nothing to do with Tyson. It still a dumb comparison.

Yeah I saw that Barron was still here after I posted.

I dont care what his career numbers as a Knick are, as if he has been on this team for years before this year it was against Miami :facepalm . Defense doesnt always show up in stats. This series right now that you all a bitching about is what is up for discussion. Having watched both series and it just dawned on me the last game that he and some other players just arent moving the same.

So considering that he didnt play for almost a month or so because he was injured was there a miracle that he came back healthy for the playoffs in the slightest? No, how do I know because you can see that he just cant move from jump street.

He is gutting it out and I stand by that. If he didnt play who was? Amare, Camby, Wallace, Kurt Thomas, Barron, Solomon? If he didnt play he would have been crucified.

You all make as many post as you like. I am going to back my dude as a Knick fan. I know the guy aint right and if no one else sees it so be it.

Eventually common sense will hit someone here and I know I am not the only one that is observant. His neck and bulging disk is why he cant play right.

[franchize]

Actually, defense does show up in the stats. It shows up in block shots, defensive rebounds, the man you're guarding's numbers and shooting % etc.

Maybe I would have some sympathy and believe he's only playing poorly because of injury if I hadn't seen the same thing I've complained about all season. He didn't show up last playoffs either. I've been saying he's overrated all year. My opinion of Tyson Chandler has been the same since the day we signed him. He's overrated and overpaid. Him being exposed in the playoffs is just the icing on the cake...not the actual batter.



*this post was from earlier today. my computer froze*

[franchize]

Chandler wasn't great again tonight but I will say to things. #1 He played very good defense down the stretch of the game. #2 His 4th and 5th foul were absolute, Grade A BS! Especially the 4th foul. He got grabbed and they called a foul on him. There was very little contact, but if you're going to call that ticky tac crap, at least get the right guy for the foul. It's hard to get going when the refs are calling BS like that. I mean really, I thought the refs were bad on both ends. Let em play zebras.

[Rameek]

Actually, defense does show up in the stats. It shows up in block shots, defensive rebounds, the man you're guarding's numbers and shooting % etc.

Maybe I would have some sympathy and believe he's only playing poorly because of injury if I hadn't seen the same thing I've complained about all season. He didn't show up last playoffs either. I've been saying he's overrated all year. My opinion of Tyson Chandler has been the same since the day we signed him. He's overrated and overpaid. Him being exposed in the playoffs is just the icing on the cake...not the actual batter.
Get over it. He's here. Ride n die with the team or take a back seat!:bowdown:




*this post was from earlier today. my computer froze*
Your computer didnt freeze it went back to the future little brother :roll:

[franchize]

Get over it. He's here. Ride n die with the team or take a back seat!:bowdown:



Your computer didnt freeze it went back to the future little brother :roll:

Read my post above. I gave Chandler some credit.

[Rameek]

Read my post above. I gave Chandler some credit.
The white text for the compliment didnt show up on computer....:roll:

Doesnt matter though...:cheers:

Time to ride and die! 1 game at a time. Time to make this miracle run and get ratchet!

[franchize]

The white text for the compliment didnt show up on computer....:roll:

Doesnt matter though...:cheers:

Time to ride and die! 1 game at a time. Time to make this miracle run and get ratchet!
There is no white text lol It's plain as day. I said "Tyson Chandler played very good defense down the stretch." I give credit where it's due. He got shat on by the refs today with foul 4 and 5. Foul 3 was just a dumb play :facepalm

[ClutchOver9000]

The one thing I loved from Chandler tonight was him dropping Lance Stephenson on his ass.

Kid tried to punk Tyson literally and the team figuratively going for that dunk.

Glad to see that sh!t dont fly w/ the Knicks... :no:

[Da KO King]

Tyson Chandler has sucked for the Knicks and it has nothing to do with his health.

His lack of offensive understanding and skill has been a total hindrance to the team. Defensively it's being made clear what he is, an average at best 1v1 defender and a SLIGHTLY above average help defender but entirely over-rated pick and roll defender.

[franchize]

Tyson Chandler has sucked for the Knicks and it has nothing to do with his health.

His lack of offensive understanding and skill has been a total hindrance to the team. Defensively it's being made clear what he is, an average at best 1v1 defender and a SLIGHTLY above average help defender but entirely over-rated pick and roll defender.

I somewhat agree. However, I actually think it's the other way around. I think he's a slightly above average 1 on 1 defender and an average at best help defender. Personally, I WISH I saw what you see. I'd much rather a solid help defender in a center than a 1 on 1 defender. There aren't many centers to defend. My biggest disappointment with Chandler is that he doesn't protect the rim like everyone says he does. Far too many times, I see guards drive the lane and go right at him and he backs down. Nobody fears Tyson Chandler when they go to the hole. And THAT is the main reason why I never liked the signing.

[ClutchOver9000]

I hate that sorry sack of shit. Should have his DPOY award revoked.

The series was lost on him and JR Brick...

[Scoooter]

Hibbert gave him a series-long Golden shower.

[bluechox2]

I somewhat agree. However, I actually think it's the other way around. I think he's a slightly above average 1 on 1 defender and an average at best help defender. Personally, I WISH I saw what you see. I'd much rather a solid help defender in a center than a 1 on 1 defender. There aren't many centers to defend. My biggest disappointment with Chandler is that he doesn't protect the rim like everyone says he does. Far too many times, I see guards drive the lane and go right at him and he backs down. Nobody fears Tyson Chandler when they go to the hole. And THAT is the main reason why I never liked the signing.
we need to trade chandler period, dude just stands there when players drive at him, and when he gets duped, he fouls the next drive when its not necessary
i always gave him the benefit of the doubt, but now its done, he needs to get his ass shipped out

[franchize]

Do I even need to comment? :oldlol:

All I'm going to say is

Tyson Chandler 2 points 6 rebounds ZERO blocks
Roy Hibbert 21 points 12 rebounds 5 blocks

Made Roy Hibbert look like Chamberlain. If this series wasn't the biggest campaign to trade this scrub, I don't know what is. lol That is all. Good night!

[bluechox2]

can somebody gif stevenson driving in while chandler just stands in front of him and watches the layup

[Clutch]

I want him gone.

5.8 points,7.8 rebounds,1.2 blocks

Those are his playoff numbers as a Knick. We're paying $10+ mil. for that ???
In 3 series he played he got outplayed by his opponent every single time.
Trade his bum ass while he still has some value and isn't exposed as a fraud he really is.

[franchize]

I want him gone.

5.8 points,7.8 rebounds,1.2 blocks

Those are his playoff numbers as a Knick. We're paying $10+ mil. for that ???
In 3 series he played he got outplayed by his opponent every single time.
Trade his bum ass while he still has some value and isn't exposed as a fraud he really is.

There's really no debating anything you said. He got $14 million dollars to get outplayed by a 37 year old Kevin Garnett and a career underachiever in Roy Hibbert.

[bluechox2]

There's really no debating anything you said. He got $14 million dollars to get outplayed by a 37 year old Kevin Garnett and a career underachiever in Roy Hibbert.
to think that by watching hibbert defend for 6 games, he'd give it a a try instead of mauling everyone that comes near him for fouls

[franchize]

Simply put, the guy is overpaid and overrated. He never was a great help defender. He's never been a big time shot blocker despite his height and athleticism. His claim to fame was always his on ball defense. That alone, IMO, makes him overpaid. (Why pay a guy 14 mill when there are only about 5 centers in the league who are a threat down low?) Either way, he's shown he's not even that good of an on ball defender. Simply put...he needs to go. Do your job and stop blaming your teammates for the fact that YOU GOT YOUR ASS BUSTED

[franchize]

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/44791/chandler-i-didnt-let-team-down

**** this dude

[Clutch]

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/44791/chandler-i-didnt-let-team-down

**** this dude
Is he serious ? :oldlol:

[bluechox2]

tyson, that all you got? that was your 100%? get the fuc k outa here

[Rameek]

The guy missed about 15 games with a bulging disc came back was not close to healthy but he played anyway.

[franchize]

The guy missed about 15 games with a bulging disc came back was not close to healthy but he played anyway.
But every time he caught an alley oop or we were up in a game...he was fine. My issue isn't even his play anymore. It's that he had the nerve to repeatedly call out other guys on the team but won't take ownership for the fact that he was arguably the worst Knick out there. I don't know how people skip form Melo all the way to JR in terms of blame, but he played WORSE than JR. I didn't even know it was possible lol

[Rameek]

i don't remember him catching an alley oop. Guy couldn't really jump or move. I think I saw maybe 2 of his infamous back taps in playoffs.
So what he spoke up I think that should be done in the locker room but who is to say it wasn't said.

It just annoying he sacrificed his health to play. He was in a no win situation don't play he'd get killed tried to play and was significantly less than 100% gets killed.

[franchize]

i don't remember him catching an alley oop. Guy couldn't really jump or move. I think I saw maybe 2 of his infamous back taps in playoffs.
So what he spoke up I think that should be done in the locker room but who is to say it wasn't said.

It just annoying he sacrificed his health to play. He was in a no win situation don't play he'd get killed tried to play and was significantly less than 100% gets killed.

Out of his 6 rebounds in Game 6, only 1 was defensive. 3 were back taps. Almost all of his points came off dunks and alleys this post season. I don't even remember how he scored his one basket.

My biggest issue is, if you know you aren't playing up to par, who are you to call other people out? You shouldn't be calling people out in the media REGARDLESS. Do that in house and in house only! But before you do that, look in the mirror.

[bluechox2]

Out of his 6 rebounds in Game 6, only 1 was defensive. 3 were back taps. Almost all of his points came off dunks and alleys this post season. I don't even remember how he scored his one basket.

My biggest issue is, if you know you aren't playing up to par, who are you to call other people out? You shouldn't be calling people out in the media REGARDLESS. Do that in house and in house only! But before you do that, look in the mirror.
he had a jumper!!

[knickscity]

he had a jumper!!
Spin move too, probably could use it if the team wasn't jumper crazy.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2435257/chandlerspin.gif

[franchize]

Spin move too, probably could use it if the team wasn't jumper crazy.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2435257/chandlerspin.gif
You mean that travel? lmao no thanks

[knickscity]

You mean that travel? lmao no thanks
Wasn't a travel, but i figured you'd root against a Knick even when the refs didn't.:lol

[franchize]

Wasn't a travel, but i figured you'd root against a Knick even when the refs didn't.:lol
I'm sorry sir but you cannot take a bunny hop before you spin lol. Either way, if you gotta go all the way back to Nov 21 to find an offensive move, then I think he doesn't deserve to get the ball lmao

And I'm not rooting against a Knick. I'm rooting against Tyson Chandler. He's dead to me :roll: He's no Knick of mine

[knickscity]

I'm sorry sir but you cannot take a bunny hop before you spin lol. Either way, if you gotta go all the way back to Nov 21 to find an offensive move, then I think he doesn't deserve to get the ball lmao

And I'm not rooting against a Knick. I'm rooting against Tyson Chandler. He's dead to me :roll: He's no Knick of mine
thats how I feel about the choke artist.

but he's a Knick i gotta root for his successs because it means the Knicks won.

BTW that was from april.

[franchize]

thats how I feel about the choke artist.

but he's a Knick i gotta root for his successs because it means the Knicks won.

BTW that was from april.

My bad. I was lookin at this on my phone. It looked like the Mavericks game. Who's the "choke artist" btw?

[Rameek]

Out of his 6 rebounds in Game 6, only 1 was defensive. 3 were back taps. Almost all of his points came off dunks and alleys this post season. I don't even remember how he scored his one basket.

My biggest issue is, if you know you aren't playing up to par, who are you to call other people out? You shouldn't be calling people out in the media REGARDLESS. Do that in house and in house only! But before you do that, look in the mirror.
How about this.... I have a bulging disc in my back/neck... In all actuality I should have surgery or be out for 5 months depending on where and the severity of the injury. You guys in this locker room know I am not suppose to be playing but I am gutting this out for my team...

You guys get your sh!t together.... I can see this spin on it.

My only issue is this should be said in the locker room he could have said it and nothing happened so he took it publicly.

[bluechox2]

he shud have sat out than give us that crappy performance, cud have given copeland more time and barron wud have given us more rebounds...

[Rameek]

he shud have sat out than give us that crappy performance, cud have given copeland more time and barron wud have given us more rebounds...
You wanted to play Copeland, Martin, Stat at the Center position in the playoffs? Regular season is one thing but they would have never made it out the first round. Barron was not going to pay.

[knickscity]

he shud have sat out than give us that crappy performance, cud have given copeland more time and barron wud have given us more rebounds...
He would have gotten killed even further if he sat out the entire playoffs.

I really dont think Barron was an answer....a meaningless regular season game does not equal the playoffs.

Gotta recall though, Copeland actually started the very first game for us against Boston and o-fer'd.

Played in game 2 and 0-fer'd

Had another o-fer as well, i thnk Woodson only played him again in desperation, but you gotta agree if a player bombs that hard, usually they aren't see n again expecially a rook.

[franchize]

Interesting quote from Woody. I can't say I disagree at all, but it also makes me reiterate the lack of congruence between Woody and Grunwald. I just don't get how you see this and don't say something to your GM:

Mike Woodson
He mentioned yesterday that he wants to establish something, and I want to help him because I think big guys should be able to catch the ball and play offense and rebound the ball instead of tapping it out," Woodson added. "Rebound the ball to go back up and perhaps get a foul or score a bucket."

Here's the link:
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9462819/new-york-knicks-tyson-chandler-seek-hakeem-olajuwon-help-offense?src=mobile

[Rameek]

Interesting quote from Woody. I can't say I disagree at all, but it also makes me reiterate the lack of congruence between Woody and Grunwald. I just don't get how you see this and don't say something to your GM:

Mike Woodson
He mentioned yesterday that he wants to establish something, and I want to help him because I think big guys should be able to catch the ball and play offense and rebound the ball instead of tapping it out," Woodson added. "Rebound the ball to go back up and perhaps get a foul or score a bucket."

Here's the link:
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9462819/new-york-knicks-tyson-chandler-seek-hakeem-olajuwon-help-offense?src=mobile
I dont understand what you mean. Tell the GM to get a real PF and back up C? Not sure the Knicks organization has that kind of communication chain.

[franchize]

I dont understand what you mean. Tell the GM to get a real PF and back up C? Not sure the Knicks organization has that kind of communication chain.

No tell the GM "our Center can't catch and makes 14 million dollars. Let's cut our ties while other teams still think he's good."

[Rameek]

No tell the GM "our Center can't catch and makes 14 million dollars. Let's cut our ties while other teams still think he's good."
Interesting interpretation you have there. Although Chandler tweaked Woodson which I have no problem with except it was made publicly he put his name on it. Woodson gave a subtle shot back as well.

[franchize]

Interesting interpretation you have there. Although Chandler tweaked Woodson which I have no problem with except it was made publicly he put his name on it. Woodson gave a subtle shot back as well.
Chandler should be in no position to point fingers but it seems like he's pointed all 10. I've yet to hear him take ownership for his poor play. Not to mention, the dude hasn't added anything to his game since he's been a rookie and he has the nerve to turn down Hakeem lol

[Rameek]

Chandler should be in no position to point fingers but it seems like he's pointed all 10. I've yet to hear him take ownership for his poor play. Not to mention, the dude hasn't added anything to his game since he's been a rookie and he has the nerve to turn down Hakeem lol
I guess him playing with a herniated disc doesnt matter huh? :facepalm I guess if you had that kind of injury and played through it while being battered wouldnt you be hostile too?

But I dont care if you view him as the problem nothing is going to change that you can criticize him all you want.

[knickscity]

How does a player complete over 60% of their shots for two years straight if they can catch?:roll:

As far as the rebounding, i dont care how he gets em, just get him.

Just curious, why is this being brought up now, this article was from May?

[percelloveknicks]

How does a player complete over 60% of their shots for two years straight if they can catch?:roll:

As far as the rebounding, i dont care how he gets em, just get him.

Just curious, why is this being brought up now, this article was from May?Becausechandler is an expensive bum!

[Rameek]

How does a player complete over 60% of their shots for two years straight if they can catch?:roll:

As far as the rebounding, i dont care how he gets em, just get him.

Just curious, why is this being brought up now, this article was from May?
Maybe this promotes Franchize agenda that even Woodson wants Tyson off the team.... I didnt get that translation though. Good catch on the date.

[franchize]

The article was updated today at 12:41

And I'm not saying Woody wants Tyson traded but clearly he sees a problem so either get the guy outta here or find a solid backup. Knowing the guy has major limitations, I don't get how Kenyon Martin has been our best backup. Seems a bit irresponsible.

[Clutch]

Please get rid off Tyson. I'll actually forgive Grunwald giving away 3 picks for Bargnani if he can get something decent for Tyson.

[franchize]

I'm hearing rumors of a Chandler trade to Golden State. I don't know how true they are as my source isn't one I'd confide in. The trade would send Chandler to GS for Bogut and Barnes. Needless to say, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[knickscity]

I'm hearing rumors of a Chandler trade to Golden State. I don't know how true they are as my source isn't one I'd confide in. The trade would send Chandler to GS for Bogut and Barnes. Needless to say, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
I recalled incarcerated bob tweeted something like that after the Bargnani deal was agreed to.....

IBN SPORTS ‏@IBNINCARCERATED
**BREAKING NBA NEWS**Source: After #Raptors deal goes through Knicks are trading #Chandler ---#Warriors are the team that's rumored #IBN


I hope he's not your source.

[bluechox2]

if we can make that lee and barnes, would be great, bogut is a second away for an injury from happening

[Rameek]

Any deal for bogut unless he's expiring makes this team significantly worse! Even if you get Barnes.

But I don't believe this I would need a credible source.

[franchize]

Any deal for bogut unless he's expiring makes this team significantly worse! Even if you get Barnes.

But I don't believe this I would need a credible source.

He is expiring.

And I don't know who incarcerated Bob is.

But as I said, it was only a rumor and I don't stand by the source.

[Clutch]

Bogut actually played GREAT in the playoffs,averaged 7 points,11 rebounds in 27 minutes with very good defense.

We all know Tyson will be useless come playoff time (like he has been for 2 straight years) so why not get a young asset in Barnes and Bogut who's injury prone but if he's healthy he's a much better player than Chandler.

I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. If Bogut's contract is expiring then it's a no brainer.

[franchize]

Bogut actually played GREAT in the playoffs,averaged 7 points,11 rebounds in 27 minutes with very good defense.

We all know Tyson will be useless come playoff time (like he has been for 2 straight years) so why not get a young asset in Barnes and Bogut who's injury prone but if he's healthy he's a much better player than Chandler.

I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. If Bogut's contract is expiring then it's a no brainer.

Chandler has a time released flu virus. It only shows up after bad games and playoff time.

[Clutch]

Source: Knicks interested in Dalembert

LAS VEGAS -- The Knicks are interested in one of the best centers still available in free agency, Samuel Dalembert, according to a player source.

On Friday, the first day of the NBA summer league at UNLV's Cox Pavilion, Knicks GM Glen Grunwald and Dalembert's agent, Marc Cornstein, were spotted chatting.

MORE: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46939/source-knicks-interested-in-dalembert

franchize right now:

http://files.sharenator.com/RandyMarshJizz_New_Skyrim_Trailer-s635x477-140227.jpg

[franchize]

franchize right now:

http://files.sharenator.com/RandyMarshJizz_New_Skyrim_Trailer-s635x477-140227.jpg

It would be a nice pickup. About 2 years too late though.

[el gringos]

I'm hearing rumors of a Chandler trade to Golden State. I don't know how true they are as my source isn't one I'd confide in. The trade would send Chandler to GS for Bogut and Barnes. Needless to say, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
That is insane. If chandlers value is anywhere close to that I don't understand anyone who doesn't realize that you trade him then.

Bogut, Barnes, and nedovic

For

Chandler, hardaway jr, and whatever future picks possible.




- how could the warriors be throwing in Barnes? I'd swap chandler for bogut alone.

[franchize]

That is insane. If chandlers value is anywhere close to that I don't understand anyone who doesn't realize that you trade him then.

Bogut, Barnes, and nedovic

For

Chandler, hardaway jr, and whatever future picks possible.




- how could the warriors be throwing in Barnes? I'd swap chandler for bogut alone.

As I said....it was a rumor.

[el gringos]

Chandlers real trade value would be great to know. I believe it is high enough to get a difference maker or two. And I don't believe his loss would hurt as bad as the gains from another couldn't make up for.

What do you really think chandlers trade value is? Even if its not something you'd pull the trigger on?

Ryan Anderson and Jason smith?

[Clutch]

Not only Tyson has played like a p*ssy in the last 2 playoffs but he's now hanging out with Justin Bieber. :facepalm

http://s24.postimg.org/etvc3c1et/tyson_bieber.jpg

[franchize]

Not only Tyson has played like a p*ssy in the last 2 playoffs but he's now hanging out with Justin Bieber. :facepalm

http://s24.postimg.org/etvc3c1et/tyson_bieber.jpg

Who Ironically looks more muscular than him AND Kevin Durant lmao