I guarantee the grizzlies win the championship

[MAC system]

This year. Any dumb ass heat fan wanna bet? Put your money where your c0cksucker is. Lebron will have another spectacular choke job and the Memphis bigs will destroy them. I got 200 dollars the grizzlies take it all. Any takers?

[eriX]

someone please take this bet and bookmark it asap.

[maybeshewill13]

You guarantee the Grizzlies win the championship because they have had 4 EXTREMELY tight games with a team that is missing their second best player (a top 5-7 player in the league) and start Kendrick ****ing Perkins. Not to mention a team that gives Derek ****ing Fisher a lot of minutes.

Righto.

[All Net]

They have the bigs but don't have enough perimeter scoring..

[dbk123]

they wont even get pass the spurs or warriors:oldlol:

[eSOL]

This year. Any dumb ass heat fan wanna bet? Put your money where your c0cksucker is. Lebron will have another spectacular choke job and the Memphis bigs will destroy them. I got 200 dollars the grizzlies take it all. Any takers?

http://i.imgur.com/Ba1xj.jpg

[Jyap9675]

They have the bigs but don't have enough perimeter scoring..

They had Mayo and Gay last year and they couldn't beat Clippers or OKC two years ago

[dbk123]

They had Mayo and Gay last year and they couldn't beat Clippers or OKC two years ago
they wouldnt be beating okc this year if they had westbrook. no clue about the clippers though. id say memphis beat them fair and square

[All Net]

They had Mayo and Gay last year and they couldn't beat Clippers or OKC two years ago

Kind of helps my arguement..

[Qwertyazerty]

Kind of helps my arguement..

I don't see how a defensive liability making 29% of his 3 pointers and only 27% of his field goals may help your argument. That was Mayo's performance during last season's PO.
And as good as Gay could be, he was only converting 21% of his 3 pointers.

I'm not saying you are wrong about them lacking exterior threats, but none of those guys helps your argument.

[#1SportsFan86]

They had Mayo and Gay last year and they couldn't beat Clippers or OKC two years ago

Why even bring up Mayo?...it doesn't even look like the Grizz are really missing him, Mayo is overrated if you ask me.

[All Net]

I don't see how a defensive liability making 29% of his 3 pointers and only 27% of his field goals may help your argument. That was Mayo's performance during last season's PO.
And as good as Gay could be, he was only converting 21% of his 3 pointers.

I'm not saying you are wrong about them lacking exterior threats, but none of those guys helps your argument.

They at least had perimeter options no matter how good or bad those guys were... They depend so much on Conley right now on the perimeter will see f that becomes a problem.

[Jyap9675]

Yes they have limited perimeter scoring now as it seems but if you think about it, it allowed them to fully utilise their strengths which is through their bigs. Also didn't people say that Gay was ineffective in playing with Zbo and Gasol? So it seems that the lesser perimeter options helped them in a way as you can see with them being so close to WCF.

Oh and they still have Quincy and Bayless, which are reliable perimeter scorers. They bring about 15 ppg. Perimeter scoring may be their weakness but it's not as bad as it seems.

[alleykat]

This year. Any dumb ass heat fan wanna bet? Put your money where your c0cksucker is. Lebron will have another spectacular choke job and the Memphis bigs will destroy them. I got 200 dollars the grizzlies take it all. Any takers?

Ill bet u 200 u won't make that bet forreal

[BoutPractice]

Could happen, but I wouldn't go as far as to bet on it.

[2010splash]

Just spit my drink out laughing. Grizzlies beating the Heat? Hahahahaha, that's a good one. A team whose best player is Marc Gasol beating a top 3 team in NBA history led by LeBron James... :roll: :roll:

Heat would stomp the Grizzlies.

[Nash]

http://i.imgur.com/Ba1xj.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheGreatDeraj]

Dennis System > Mac System

[andremiller07]

Even thought they are up 3-1 against the Thunder they have not been impressive at all in doing that against a team without Westbrook, imo from a style point of view they provide the best match up against the Heat while the GSW provide the most exciting.

[poido123]

Just spit my drink out laughing. Grizzlies beating the Heat? Hahahahaha, that's a good one. A team whose best player is Marc Gasol beating a top 3 team in NBA history led by LeBron James... :roll: :roll:

Heat would stomp the Grizzlies.

Grizzlies matchup well with the Heat. Good enough defensively, they have Tony Allen to defend Wade, Tayshaun would have trouble guarding Lebron, however Toney Allen can switch onto Lebron for stretches, Miami has absolutely no answer for Gasol and Z-Bo, those big bodies would steamroll through skinny bosh and Birdman. Then you have Conley who would win the matchup with Cole or chalmers most of the time. The Heat have a much better bench, but overall this would be a tight series. I can't see many blowouts either way in this one. Both teams play good defense, alot would depend on how consistent Conley can be all series, they would need him to be on target from the perimeter for most of the series. Bayless is a bit of an X-factor, the guy can light it up sometimes, but play awful too.

Only thing that baffles me with Grizz, is the coach plays Arthur too much, and lets Davis rot on the bench. Davis could be that guy to come on and keep the pressure on Heat's lack of size.

Grizz can look lost on offense at times if only z-bo or gasol are on the floor, and Heat are very good at forcing teams into scoring droughts. On the other hand, Z-bo is an excellent offensive rebounder and will exploit alot of second chance points...

Just my spin

[retaxis]

Just like how Miami has no defence against Pau and Howard ey? Snap out of it. they double team from the right angle and force extra passes creating more turn over opportunities and bad shots. CB can play Marc 1 on 1 and don't even bother saying otherwise CB is a proven what 7time all star and champion. Throw Joel Anthony/Haslem/Birdman on Zbo and double team whenever either are deep or in position for high percentage shots. The rest of the team has to outplay allen/wade/lebron/battier which is not easy when you have Lebron on the court especially if Lebron/Wade draws quick fouls on the memphis front court.

[STATUTORY]

lettuce be real, there's no way in hell David Stern would allow a bunch of no superstar, unknown to the public players dethrone the Heat. refs gonna bring their A game in the series

[poido123]

Just like how Miami has no defence against Pau and Howard ey? Snap out of it. they double team from the right angle and force extra passes creating more turn over opportunities and bad shots. CB can play Marc 1 on 1 and don't even bother saying otherwise CB is a proven what 7time all star and champion. Throw Joel Anthony/Haslem/Birdman on Zbo and double team whenever either are deep or in position for high percentage shots. The rest of the team has to outplay allen/wade/lebron/battier which is not easy when you have Lebron on the court especially if Lebron/Wade draws quick fouls on the memphis front court.

howard is limited offensively and doesnt pass as well as Marc gasol.
Pau is not as powerful as Z-bo NTM old now, and Z-bo is hard to stop on the glass and getting his points.

Grizz are alot more organised than the Lakers, and know how to overcome doubleteams. CB is NOT holding Z-bo or Gasol, they will get theirs as they are bigger and stronger. Marc has a very high IQ.

LOL at relying on drawing quick fouls, its like your admitting the refs have Heat's back :lol:

Like Statutory mentioned, Grizz are not a good storyline for the NBA or good for business. If Grizz are to lose this, I would be keeping a close eye on the reffing in this series.

[macmac]

I'll bet you that right now. I'll even put 10k on it if you want. We give the money to a non bias third party. Deal?

[BoutPractice]

lettuce be real, there's no way in hell David Stern would allow a bunch of no superstar, unknown to the public players dethrone the Heat. refs gonna bring their A game in the series
> Why didn't the refs get involved in the 2004 Finals, then?

[Sakkreth]

What's the point to bet, the op will disappear, it's not like he's atleast known or has reputation here so his account doesn't even worth anything at all for him either.

[Wang Zhi Zhi]

Dennis System > Mac System
:applause: :roll:

Would rep if I could

[macmac]

What's the point to bet, the op will disappear, it's not like he's atleast known or has reputation here so his account doesn't even worth anything at all for him either.

Money upfront if hes not a lil biiitch

[LONGTIME]

Monkeyball will win.

[poido123]

> Why didn't the refs get involved in the 2004 Finals, then?

Detroit's play was good enough to beat the refs and the team.

[livingby3's]

I just thought alot of people are going to be surprised. Not going to the extent of predicting the Grizzlies to become champs, but it's going to be a very tight series if they do get there

[MJ23forever]

If Memphis does reach the Finals, it would be tough for Miami. They always play the Heat tough in their limited action vs. each other. It'd be a great series IMO... I would expect it to go 6-7 games... they're the team with the best shot to beat Miami because of the match-ups and with all of the injuries this year to the other contenders.

They got all the ingredients. Big goons in the middle that aren't soft. A great wing defender who can stick Bron. And a PG that can shoot and penetrate. Their bench is solid as well.

I'm not saying they'd be favorites but Miami would need to play real great ball to win, and I wouldn't be shocked if we seen a rebirth of the 2004 Pistons. And Bron would have to play as great as he did in the ECF last year. But it would be tougher than the Eastern Conference Finals vs. Boston last year just cause with Boston, they relied so much on KG being out there on the floor for their defense. Without him, LeBron and Wade saw the red sea split so to speak.

While Randolph has never been a great defender, he's been decent in this system and I feel like ALL of their guards/wings play better defense than all of Boston's last year... Boston was missing Bradley but Memphis got more depth up front and more wings available.

Plus, Memphis plays defense and gets boards where as the Celtics play great defense but struggle on the boards.

[STATUTORY]

> Why didn't the refs get involved in the 2004 Finals, then?

That was sterns version of street justice for Colorado. America. Public wanted Kobe to fail and stern made sure of thay

[greymatter]

Way too many retards making guarantees these days. Save the 200 to pay for contraception. Don't want any more retards being brought into the world.

[macmac]

Way too many retards making guarantees these days. Save the 200 to pay for contraception. Don't want any more retards being brought into the world.

If he had an IQ in the triple digits, he would realize that Memphis is a 7 to 1 dog to win the championship. So he could get 1400 on his 200 if he wasnt such a broke biitch with no balls

[pegasus]

lettuce be real, there's no way in hell David Stern would allow a bunch of no superstar, unknown to the public players dethrone the Heat. refs gonna bring their A game in the series
Unfortunately, this. Stern didn't let Durant and WB (two of the best up-and-coming young superstars in the league) win, why would he let a team led by a couple of all-stars beat them?

The only marketing angle I can see him considering is, "The Most Stacked Team of All Time Loses in the NBA Finals - How Shocking!", but even then I don't think so.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

This year. Any dumb ass heat fan wanna bet? Put your money where your c0cksucker is. Lebron will have another spectacular choke job and the Memphis bigs will destroy them. I got 200 dollars the grizzlies take it all. Any takers?

well if you called this before the playoffs I would say damn this guy knows his shit.

But they are up 3-1 and will 99% be representing the West as I do not think SAS/GSW will have anything for them.

[Kingwillball]

See here is the thing the Bulls and Pacers are very similar to Memphis in how they are built. If the Heat play and beat Pacers they will be ready to handle and deal with Memphis as the Pacers are Memphis East basically. Heat beat them in 5 or 6 assuming Wade can actually contribute.

[KG215]

So are people actually watching this series, and coming away impressed by the Grizzlies? Everyone is aware that OKC doesn't have Westbrook, has had Ibaka play like shit 3 of the 4 games, and allows Kendrick Perkins to actually put on a uniform and step on the floor for....right?

And despite all that, every single game has gone to the wire.

[Carbine]

One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.

Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.

Interesting series due to matchups.

[lebeast666]

Am I the only one who thinks Miami would sweep Memphis? not tryna sound cocky. :confusedshrug:

[Kingwillball]

One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.

Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.

Interesting series due to matchups.

No the heat can mix and match lineups better than anyone and they would figure out what works best for them. Bron would at times cover zbo btw.

[pegasus]

One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.

Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.

Interesting series due to matchups.
Lebron will push and shove ZBo as hard as he can and won't get called for a foul. And when 1/10th of it is done to him on the other end, he will flop and get the call. And not just once in a while. Every. Single. Time.

[PJR]

One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4

Says who?

Miami will double team, and front the post constantly against Memphis, and gang rebound. LeBron, Wade, and Battier will be digging. And on the other end, Bosh is going to force one of Zbo or Gasol out of the paint. If they are going to camp out under the rim all series, Bosh is going drain 18-20 footers all series. Just like he's doing against Noah/Boozer. That simple.

The Heat are the most skilled and most versatile team in the NBA. There is no matchup that Miami cannot hold their own against, of the remaining teams in the post-season. Dudes are kidding themselves.

[Goldrush25]

lettuce be real, there's no way in hell David Stern would allow a bunch of no superstar, unknown to the public players dethrone the Heat. refs gonna bring their A game in the series

I'm quite certain you're wearing a tin foil hat right now.

[willds09]

Just spit my drink out laughing. Grizzlies beating the Heat? Hahahahaha, that's a good one. A team whose best player is Marc Gasol beating a top 3 team in NBA history led by LeBron James... :roll: :roll:

Heat would stomp the Grizzlies.
yea i know grizzlies beating tha knicks?:roll:

[willds09]

See here is the thing the Bulls and Pacers are very similar to Memphis in how they are built. If the Heat play and beat Pacers they will be ready to handle and deal with Memphis as the Pacers are Memphis East basically. Heat beat them in 5 or 6 assuming Wade can actually contribute.
if tha heat play tha knicks.

[KG215]

One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.

Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.

Interesting series due to matchups.
OKC's best offensive stretches in this series have come when they had their smallball lineup in the game. They didn't get a stop every time, but they've made more runs and have played their best ball of the series with Durant at PF and Ibaka or Collison at C.

OKC's basically a slightly worse version of the Heat. Limited inside game with a stretch PF; an elite do-it-all wing; and a slashing/scoring guard. Obviously OKC doesn't have their Dwyane Wade, but they're still taking the Grizzlies to the limit. I'm thinking OKC wins this series in 5 with Westbrook, so I' inclined to believe Miami would do the same or sweep them

[lakeshow1]

Ill bet u 200 u won't make that bet forreal

If you do this, and he pays his initial bet, you've effectively paid it for him. If he wins, he's 400$ richer. The OP should take this bet. :rockon:

[lakeshow1]

Just spit my drink out laughing. Grizzlies beating the Heat? Hahahahaha, that's a good one. A team whose best player is Marc Gasol beating a top 3 team in NBA history led by LeBron James... :roll: :roll:

Heat would stomp the Grizzlies.

This post would have applied to Dallas too.

[chosen_one6]

One thing that would be interesting about the Memphis/Miami series would be you can't play small ball against them - in other words Battier or Bron can't play the 4 - ZBo is too good down low and too good on the offensive boards.

Tony Allen will have as good a shot as anyone in the NBA of forcing Bron into tough shots as well.

Interesting series due to matchups.

Playing Bron or Battier at the 4 creates a mismatch on both sides. Randolph cannot play defense on either of those two on the perimeter. Randolph would just get double teamed as soon as he touched the ball.

[ncrizzle]

The heat and grizzlies would be a great match up if they meet in the finals. But guaranteeing a memphis finals victory is pretty stupid. Probably just trolling for attention.


So are people actually watching this series, and coming away impressed by the Grizzlies? Everyone is aware that OKC doesn't have Westbrook, has had Ibaka play like shit 3 of the 4 games, and allows Kendrick Perkins to actually put on a uniform and step on the floor for....right?

And despite all that, every single game has gone to the wire.

Have you been watching this series? Memphis does not try to put up 120 points. They like to play a slow pace and grind it out. The score is going to be lower and closer . Hence why the thunder are averaging about 15 points less a game against memphis. What matters is the win. You point out all of these things okc is sucking at.... Are the grizzlies playing the best they possibly can? Prince is sucking on offense, Arthur is sucking on both sides of the court, and Bayless has been streaky. There have been games this series where statistically yall are beating us at almost every category. But we find ways to win. Im sorry your team is down 3-1, but dont take anything away from the grizzlies. We beat you guys 2-1 during the regular season with westbrook with your only win being the 1st game after the gay trade where we only had like 8 players dressed out , none of the players we traded or traded for.

[iDunk]

I think they can make the Finals, but I just can't see them scoring enough to beat the Heat unless they absolutely lock Miami down.

[InfiniteBaskets]

The Heat likely goes with the same line up they do every time they play a team with two bigs.

Bosh / Birdman
Battier
LeBron
Wade / Allen
Chalmers / Cole


Somebody at PF is going to play defense out of their comfort zone by having to stick Battier or LeBron. Neither Z-Bo nor Gasol are going to want to camp out on the outside. OKC has tried doing this a few times with Durant at the 4, but that gives Memphis too much of an advantage on the boards.

Miami has done a good job against the Bulls thus far of not letting the size advantage get out of control.

[willds09]

tha pacers and heat will not go to tha finals, so its gonna be knicks vs grizzzlies or knicks vs spurs or knicks vs warriors, those are tha possible matchups.

[KG215]

I agree with the Grizzlies not being able to score enough. That's my biggest concern/problem after watching them this series. They're just not able to create any kind of consistent separation and hold on it against a team without a 23 PPG scorer. I think they'd give the Heat some tight games, but wouldn't have enough offense in the end.

[doinitbig06]

:roll:
tha pacers and heat will not go to tha finals, so its gonna be knicks vs grizzzlies or knicks vs spurs or knicks vs warriors, those are tha possible matchups.
:roll: delusional knick fan i feel sorry for you

knicks aint gon SNIFF the nba finals, J.R Smith will make sure of that :oldlol:

Grizz in 6 NBA CHAMPIONS

[willds09]

:roll:
:roll: delusional knick fan i feel sorry for you

knicks aint gon SNIFF the nba finals, J.R Smith will make sure of that :oldlol:

Grizz in 6 NBA CHAMPIONS
knicks in 6 to whoever. J.R Smith will come back to tha 6th man of tha year that he iz too, watch.

[Pointguard]

Grizz will use their height and will pound hard. The rebound discrepancy will be huge. Unless Miami sweeps Knicks/Indiana it seems like Wade's knees will greatly hinder him. Lebron has shown some signs of not being super efficient and sometimes seems aggravated that he can't penetrate (this can change next series tho). Miami isn't playing the same ball that put them on the winning streak now.

Cons
The Heat possibly could have gone thru two great defenses to get to Memphis and just might go crazy (not that Memphis isn't good defensively). Chicago and Indiana (the Knicks aren't) are good preparation for Miami. They are pounding teams and Indiana is taller. Prince has had problems with Lebron before. Zbo and Gasol are very good defensively but Bosh, Haslem and Batt are very elusive. Z and G play in a position that is easiest to double as well.

I think the Heat are too fast, experienced and too good at every position offensively to lose. Zbo or Gasol will need at least a couple of 30 point games between them which I don't see happening. Bosh is likely to cancel out one of them.

[Fudge]

Miami would sweep this team, tbh.

[LONGTIME]

Heat in 5. If Wades knee becomes a problem then Heat in 6.

[Carbine]

Playing Bron or Battier at the 4 creates a mismatch on both sides. Randolph cannot play defense on either of those two on the perimeter. Randolph would just get double teamed as soon as he touched the ball.

No it doesn't. Memphis would just put Randolph on a spot up shooter, whether that's Ray Allen or Battier....and put Prince or Tony Allen on Bron. If Miami's offense becomes "give the ball to Battier or Ray Allen" to try and exploit Randolph, I believe that favors Memphis because the ball won't be in Brons hands.


Says who?

Miami will double team, and front the post constantly against Memphis, and gang rebound. LeBron, Wade, and Battier will be digging. And on the other end, Bosh is going to force one of Zbo or Gasol out of the paint. If they are going to camp out under the rim all series, Bosh is going drain 18-20 footers all series. Just like he's doing against Noah/Boozer. That simple.

The Heat are the most skilled and most versatile team in the NBA. There is no matchup that Miami cannot hold their own against, of the remaining teams in the post-season. Dudes are kidding themselves.

You can front all you want, but Gasol is a fantastic passer, maybe the best passing big in the league...it's pretty easy for him to flash to the middle and dump it over the defense for a lay up attempt.

Out of all the remaining teams, Memphis creates the most matchup problems against them. I've always though it was going to take a dominant front court with an elite perimeter defender and a legit playmaker on offense in the backcourt to beat this Miami team. Memphis has those assets.

[Mr. NBA]

Dam some of these guys must not be watching Memphis. If Memphis bigs are fronted, they have 2 different high guys to throw an entry pass. The thing is they have a wing player at the elbow 3 point line, one big on the free throw line, and one big posted. If they front, get the ball to the high post and that fronted defender will now be sealed for an easy layup. If the weakside comes to help, it leaves a player open in the opposite corner. If you watch the games, this is Memphis main offense. Different variations that causes switches and what not, but we run no curls quick off ball screens to score. Every play is ran with the intention to past the ball to the low post man. Even Arthurs midrange shots come from this same play.

[stephanieg]

I'm rooting for this matchup, definitely the best chance of taking out Miami which would make Memphis America's team. But the Heat might take a page from the '90s Bulls and just swarm/trap the perimeter so the ball can't even get to the bigs. It'd be up to Conley to make good plays under pressure...dunno how I feel about that.

[Kiddlovesnets]

I guarantee the Knicks will NOT win a championship, chance of this happening is 100%, and I win.
:D

[willds09]

I guarantee the Knicks will NOT win a championship, chance of this happening is 100%, and I win.
:D
u bet?:D

[SyRyanYang]

Will bump when they get knocked out in conference finals.
They barely beat the Thunder team without Goatbrook, the same team that lost to the Heat last year WITH Westbrook and Harden:lol

[Kiddlovesnets]

u bet?:D

I already did.
:lol

[willds09]

I already did.
:lol
I aint scared of you motherphuckerz (bernie mac's voice):lol

[veilside23]

if this happens mike conley will be guarded by lebron because conley will kill both chalmers and cole :D

[Kiddlovesnets]

I aint scared of you motherphuckerz (bernie mac's voice):lol

If so, why did you wait this long to accept a deal I proposed a week ago? Look at you, you are shivering in fear, you probably regret your decision already.

[willds09]

If so, why did you wait this long to accept a deal I proposed a week ago? Look at you, you are shivering in fear, you probably regret your decision already.
I forgot, but I aint scared tho we got this :D

[Kiddlovesnets]

I forgot, but I aint scared tho we got this :D

Hopefully you can still be as confident as you are 2-3 weeks from now.
:lol

[willds09]

Hopefully you can still be as confident as you are 2-3 weeks from now.
:lol
yea cuz we will still be in tha playoffs or finals by then:oldlol:

[Tmuston Beltics]

u should put the money on a bookmaker. better odds and 100% sure money!

[poido123]

I'm rooting for this matchup, definitely the best chance of taking out Miami which would make Memphis America's team. But the Heat might take a page from the '90s Bulls and just swarm/trap the perimeter so the ball can't even get to the bigs. It'd be up to Conley to make good plays under pressure...dunno how I feel about that.

Spo isnt a good enough coach to do that.

The Heat started to do a full court press on the Bulls in their series, they got turnovers, Bulls ran out of time to get a good shot off, then the team went back to zone defense when the press was working? :wtf: Spo doesnt know or doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough for the Heat to swarm/trap Memphis on a consistent basis. Lebron pretty much runs this team, Spo is just there for encouragement and stupid cliche phrases and maybe one or two common plays all coaches know how to do.

[Twiens]

The Heat likely goes with the same line up they do every time they play a team with two bigs.

Bosh / Birdman
Battier
LeBron
Wade / Allen
Chalmers / Cole


Somebody at PF is going to play defense out of their comfort zone by having to stick Battier or LeBron. Neither Z-Bo nor Gasol are going to want to camp out on the outside. OKC has tried doing this a few times with Durant at the 4, but that gives Memphis too much of an advantage on the boards.

Miami has done a good job against the Bulls thus far of not letting the size advantage get out of control.

Zbo would eat up Battier and/or Lebron on the boards. Im afraid the refs would get Zach in foul trouble though with all their flopping...

[poido123]

Zbo would eat up Battier and/or Lebron on the boards. Im afraid the refs would get Zach in foul trouble though with all their flopping...

Yeah.

I could imagine Battier and Lebron going into full-flop mode too. They are going to harass and fustrate Z-bo no end. If anyone saw the Bulls series, Battier was allowed to foul the shit out of Noah and the refs never called it. Z-Bo will likely get called with alot of fouls when he positions for an offensive rebound and the Heat players jostle and pull at him, only for Z-bo to get more physical and have the foul called on him.

I'm starting to get negative on the NBA, I watch it because I'm passionate about basketball, but in the back of my mind I know the result and why. The process of rigging is so complex that the casual fan won't see it and the cronies will continue to make money off the stars and the big teams. With the few exceptions like 2004, this league more than ever before is geared towards stars in star teams having success. 2002 is a reminder of the fact that rigging games is present.

[PJR]

Spo isnt a good enough coach to do that.

The Heat started to do a full court press on the Bulls in their series, they got turnovers, Bulls ran out of time to get a good shot off, then the team went back to zone defense when the press was working? :wtf: Spo doesnt know or doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough for the Heat to swarm/trap Memphis on a consistent basis. Lebron pretty much runs this team, Spo is just there for encouragement and stupid cliche phrases and maybe one or two common plays all coaches know how to do.

You are clueless. :oldlol:

[poido123]

You are clueless. :oldlol:

That sounds like a butthurt response :oldlol:

Very insightful, by all means break down why I'm wrong dude, i know you're a Heat fan just so you know...

[PJR]

That sounds like a butthurt response :oldlol:

Very insightful, by all means break down why I'm wrong dude, i know you're a Heat fan just so you know...


Erik Spoelstra forgot more basketball in a than you ever knew. And he's one of the very best coaches currently in the professional ranks. He's a hand picked disciple of Pat Riley. The same Pat Riley who possess more acumen for the game of basketball in his pinky, than most do in their entire body. And for you to make some foolish assertion, I.E "Spo doesnt know or doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough" makes you sound ridiculous. Just saying.

[poido123]

Erik Spoelstra forgot more basketball in a than you ever knew. And he's one of the very best coaches currently in the professional ranks. He's a hand picked disciple of Pat Riley. The same Pat Riley who possess more acumen for the game of basketball in his pinky, than most do in their entire body. And for you to make some foolish assertion, I.E "Spo doesnt know or doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough" makes you sound ridiculous. Just saying.

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Spo a great coach or a great motivational speaker? LOL Man, just because Riley was a great coach in his own right, does not mean he is great at handpicking another coach... You would think Michael Jordan would be at least sound at running a basketball organisation with his basketball knowledge and how good he was at the game, but he sucks as a GM.

Yes I said it, Spo doesnt recognise matchup problems often enough and often let's the team change a plan that was working, ie the full court press on the bulls...Still you haven't broken down exactly what Spo has brought to the table, or proved me wrong in anyway. Try giving me examples of Spo implementing "one of the very best coaches currently in the professional ranks" plays... :oldlol:

POP on the other hand...

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