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SamuraiSWISH
05-14-2013, 11:35 PM
Obviously opinion based, but I want to hear it ...

For me, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

He scored off buckets, without insane amounts of trips to the foul line. Had a mid range game, glorious footwork, impeccable post game for a guard, a silky smooth jumper / fadeaway. Yet, he could also get to the basket at will off the dribble, finish at the rim with power or graceful artistry and finesse.

He was essentially from an eye test perspective the best of Kobe / Wade and Carter. He wowed me with his skill as much as his athleticism.

daj0264
05-14-2013, 11:37 PM
who did you pick?

9erempiree
05-14-2013, 11:38 PM
I will go with Kobe. He can score in many ways and he does it while looking good. Fluid and smooth. He's not awkward like other players.

He will hit the 3 pointer, crazy lay up, hook shoot, fade away, pull-up jumper, all this while serving up facials. He does this every game too.

daj0264
05-14-2013, 11:39 PM
I will go with Kobe. He can score in many ways and he does it while looking good. Fluid and smooth. He's not awkward like other players.

He will hit the 3 pointer, crazy lay up, hook shoot, fade away, pull-up jumper, all this while serving up facials. He does this every game too.



what a suprise

The_Yearning
05-14-2013, 11:39 PM
Obviously opinion based, but I want to hear it ...

For me, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

He scored off buckets, without insane amounts of trips to the foul line. Had a mid range game, glorious footwork, impeccable post game for a guard, a silky smooth jumper / fadeaway. Yet, he could also get to the basket at will off the dribble, finish at the rim with power or graceful artistry and finesse.

He was essentially from an eye test perspective the best of Kobe / Wade and Carter. He wowed me with his skill as much as his athleticism.

You talking about that point forward

Ancient Legend
05-14-2013, 11:41 PM
Of current players, Curry when he is on is a masterpiece to watch shoot and dribble. But he is also overrated sadly.

tmacattack33
05-14-2013, 11:41 PM
Prime Penny Hardaway or 2008 Pre-Injury Chris Paul.

Players who combine elite vision and have the ability to create off the dribble as well are the best to watch for me.


I'm sure if I was old enough to watch in the 80's, I would say Magic Johnson



(Oh, and Lebron's game has less finesse so it's not as amazing...though he does have the elite vision and scoring combo that these guys did obviously )

HomieWeMajor
05-14-2013, 11:42 PM
Magic for me

305Baller
05-14-2013, 11:42 PM
Kareem.


Nah... Jordan.


But the skyhook was glorious

daj0264
05-14-2013, 11:42 PM
Shaq. What a majestic being.

Big **** i bet too ;p

AngelEyes
05-14-2013, 11:43 PM
Jordan, no question.

9erempiree
05-14-2013, 11:44 PM
lerbron james. he probebly most aeshetic player all times. he a fk** 6'8 bulldosing tanks!!! :bowdown: he he af k** tank that run like a fast like a guard . then he have a staminas ,strength, agiliety . all that your need be aeshetic :bowdown: if your dont not say is lerbron james something wrong to your brain :facepalm:

I disagree.

Too big. Not very smooth. Bad footwork with awful post game. His jumper looks horrible too.

If you like backing out to the top of the key and bull rush to the basket then enjoy it. I prefer bull fighting.

Suckafree
05-14-2013, 11:44 PM
Alot of the late 90s class were nice. iverson, tmac, carter, steve nash

9erempiree
05-14-2013, 11:47 PM
Alot of the late 90s class were nice. iverson, tmac, carter, steve nash

Nash is a very good choice.

I don't like Carter. He's too stiff. Can't move laterally and he's only and north and south guy. Crazy dunks he has.

LongLiveTheKing
05-14-2013, 11:49 PM
Lebron, D-Wade, T-mac, and Kobe.

9erempiree
05-14-2013, 11:50 PM
what a suprise

no surprise here. It's a fact that he has the best game.

It's like who the greatest player of all time is....and people will say MJ or Kobe.

deja vu
05-14-2013, 11:51 PM
Michael Jordan, no question. Anybody who says Kobe or Wade is too young to watch the 90s NBA, or a Lakers/Heat fan. :lol

9erempiree
05-14-2013, 11:54 PM
Michael Jordan, no question. Anybody who says Kobe or Wade is too young to watch the 90s NBA, or a Lakers/Heat fan. :lol

:facepalm

You are going to say MJ and say no to Kobe but they are basically the same style.

Picking MJ is like picking Kobe. Picking Kobe is like picking MJ.

Don't be that bias.

FKAri
05-14-2013, 11:57 PM
Joel Anthony

KOBE143
05-14-2013, 11:57 PM
Kobe

The perfect version of Michael Jordan.. Can shoot 3s, can post with ease, can hit tough shot with no problem, etc. and have more skills than Mike.. He's like Jordan in steroid.. :bowdown:

305Baller
05-15-2013, 12:00 AM
Kobe

The perfect version of Michael Jordan.. Can shoot 3s, can post with ease, can hit tough shot with no problem, etc. and have more skills than Mike.. He's like Jordan in steroid.. :bowdown:

Wow, man. You are delusional. But I don't blame you, your reality betrays you.

theBIGjabroni
05-15-2013, 12:04 AM
kobe

jlip
05-15-2013, 12:06 AM
Since I started watching around '87...
Magic minus that ugly set shot. I like the Penny Hardaway reference earlier. Prime T-Mac was very smooth.

Hakeem amongst big men. Watching Sabonis pass out of the post was a thing of beauty also.

deja vu
05-15-2013, 12:08 AM
:facepalm

You are going to say MJ and say no to Kobe but they are basically the same style.

Picking MJ is like picking Kobe. Picking Kobe is like picking MJ.

Don't be that bias.
Kobe is an imitator of MJ. MJ is better than Kobe on every skill or department except 3-point shooting. So why would I say Kobe? He's not on MJ's level... :lol

DuMa
05-15-2013, 12:08 AM
Orlando TMac was smooth as butter
Pistons Grant Hill was silky

SamuraiSWISH
05-15-2013, 12:08 AM
You are going to say MJ and say no to Kobe but they are basically the same style.
This is kind of true though. Kobe's game is very similar to late 90's MJ, with a younger body, and a quicker trigger for the three ball. Obvious considering Kobe patterned his game after Mike.

Thing that separates MJ from Kobe aesthetically, is the visible superior athleticism and acrobatic and FREQUENT attacks to the basket. MJ's exploits in the air, in combination with his footwork / jumper make him so pleasing to watch. Everything was so smooth. Even the gate in his run was pleasing to eye. The way he chewed gum, everything.

That's why he gives you the best of Kobe's aesthetic, while having an attack game that transcends him and made him the most captivating player to watch.

Honorable mentions for me:

Kobe 2006 - 2009
Wade 2006 - 2011
LeBron 2009 - 2013
CP3 2008, 2009
Penny '94 - '99
Hill '94 - '99
Rose 2010, 2011

Those are about it for me. I'm partial to wings and guards. Hakeem, CB34, and Shaq are the only guys that got me excited to see low post play.

bdreason
05-15-2013, 12:12 AM
T-Mac
Iverson
Jordan
Kobe
Penny



Pretty much all the most popular players also seem to have smooth games.

Fudge
05-15-2013, 12:13 AM
Prime T-Mac easily.

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 12:14 AM
This is kind of true though. Kobe's game is very similar to late 90's MJ, with a younger body, and a quicker trigger for the three ball. Obvious considering Kobe patterned his game after Mike.

Thing that separates MJ from Kobe aesthetically, is the visible superior athleticism and acrobatic and FREQUENT attacks to the basket. MJ's exploits in the air, in combination with his footwork / jumper make him so pleasing to watch. Everything was so smooth. Even the gate in his run was pleasing to eye. The way he chewed gum, everything.

That's why he gives you the best of Kobe's aesthetic, while having an attack game that transcends him and made him the most captivating player to watch.

Honorable mentions for me:

Kobe 2006 - 2009
Wade 2006 - 2011
LeBron 2009 - 2013
CP3 2008, 2009
Penny '94 - '99
Hill '94 - '99
Rose 2010, 2011

Those are about it for me. I'm partial to wings and guards. Hakeem, CB34, and Shaq are the only guys that got me excited to see low post play.

I agree with Hakeem. He was very smooth and his complicated moves were just so smooth when he did it.

I didn't like Shaq's game. Although, he was very dominant but I like a little more finesse than brute strength.

Basketball needs more of that finesse game. Today's game relies too much on athleticism.

Z-bo got some nice moves. Reminds me a lot of Anthony Mason. A big guy that's quick as hell.

JimmyMcAdocious
05-15-2013, 12:15 AM
The guy who just won the Spurs the game just now.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/189/9/c/tracy_mcgrady_orlando_magic_wallpaper_by_lisong24k obe-d56gp56.jpg

miles berg
05-15-2013, 12:16 AM
Hakeem

Wally450
05-15-2013, 12:17 AM
Recently IMO it would be Kevin Garnett in Game 3 of 2011 Semi's against the Heat. He put up somthing like 28-17 and did great doing it.

Straight_Ballin
05-15-2013, 12:18 AM
Jordan. Answer is more obvious than the tarnish on Bron's ring.

SamuraiSWISH
05-15-2013, 12:21 AM
Jordan. Answer is more obvious than the tarnish on Bron's ring.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

305Baller
05-15-2013, 12:22 AM
Not all-time but Im giving these guys some light:

Gary Payton
Tim Hardaway
Julius Irving
Kevin Johnson
Chris Webber
Jason Williams
Shawn Kemp
Dominique Wilkins

Young X
05-15-2013, 12:23 AM
Other than MJ da gawd, CP3 deserves a mention.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/4416027_h.gif

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/6083637/cp33.0_standard_352.0.gif

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 12:27 AM
Other than MJ da gawd, CP3 deserves a mention.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs7/4416027_h.gif

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/6083637/cp33.0_standard_352.0.gif

To be honest with you, I'm not a CP3 hater but I probably get more of a joy watching him flop than his actual game.

As impressive as his game is, I find the flopping to be some of the best and most creative out there.

You just posed 2 gifs of him shooting boring jumpers where there are a bunch of flopping gifs that would bring a smile to anyone watching it.

Young X
05-15-2013, 12:29 AM
To be honest with you, I'm not a CP3 hater but I probably get more of a joy watching him flop than his actual game.

As impressive as his game is, I find the flopping to be some of the best and most creative out there.

You just posed 2 gifs of him shooting boring jumpers where there are a bunch of flopping gifs that would bring a smile to anyone watching it.
You're a clown.

theaussieguy
05-15-2013, 12:29 AM
ricky rubio anyone?

the ball is this guys wand

Nuff Said
05-15-2013, 12:36 AM
I'd say obviously Jordan. You had to watch it in real time. He was very impressive and had swag like no other. But Isaiah Thomas was pretty nice with the ball handling skills. Just to throw someone new out there. I love watching Magic Johnson run point as well.

bmd
05-15-2013, 12:55 AM
Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon.

I'm surprised so few people said Hakeem.

LT Ice Cream
05-15-2013, 01:10 AM
Anyone say Parker yet? He's nothing too fancy but it almost looks like he's skating out there. He always gets where he's going without pounding the ball or looking at the ground.

He loses points for a lack of iso game though.

deja vu
05-15-2013, 01:17 AM
ricky rubio anyone?

the ball is this guys wand
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Rubio because he does mindblowing things with the ball. He makes passes that make me say, "how the f*ck did he do that?" :bowdown:

Too bad, his scoring and shooting sucks. :(

tpols
05-15-2013, 01:22 AM
Anyone say Parker yet? He's nothing too fancy but it almost looks like he's skating out there. He always gets where he's going without pounding the ball or looking at the ground.

He loses points for a lack of iso game though.
For real. Parker is the most creative dribbler/mover ever. He just knows how to perfectly time his steps to get one inch ahead and sneak it in. Euros seem to have a deeper understanding of the fine game mechanics. Parker isnt even that fast right now.. he just outsteps you with great misdirection

livingby3's
05-15-2013, 01:34 AM
Vintage Brandon Roy for me. Personally love his game, even as a Suns fan watching him torch my team all those years, i enjoyed watching him play ball.

SamuraiSWISH
05-15-2013, 01:38 AM
Some great names in this thread, totally forgot to add Isiah Thomas to my list ...

LOL @ the fukk stick who called Tony Parker, the most boring ass PG I've seen, as the greatest / most creative dribbler of all-time.

What games are you watching? Parker is as basic as they come.

tazb
05-15-2013, 01:48 AM
How is this even a question? LeBron no contest. Can play and defend all 5 positions. 6'8 260 lbs, has the speed and agility of a guard, has the power of a center, has the passing ability like Magic with insane court vision, has the scoring ability (when he wants to) like Jordan, one of the highest basketball IQ's.

IGotACoolStory
05-15-2013, 01:56 AM
Along with the obvious (MJ, McGrady, Hakeem), I always loved the way Worthy played. Very smooth; he always looked like he was gliding across the court or in the air.

unknowns8
05-15-2013, 01:57 AM
Bill Cartwright :rockon:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcqag8zPJmQ



:rockon: :rockon: :bowdown: :bowdown: :cheers: :cheers: :D :D

unknowns8
05-15-2013, 02:00 AM
How is this even a question? LeBron no contest. Can play and defend all 5 positions. 6'8 260 lbs, has the speed and agility of a guard, has the power of a center, has the passing ability like Magic with insane court vision, has the scoring ability (when he wants to) like Jordan, one of the highest basketball IQ

nyeeeaahhh... dat riiiigght

:lol

SamuraiSWISH
05-15-2013, 02:03 AM
How is this even a question? LeBron no contest. Can play and defend all 5 positions. 6'8 260 lbs, has the speed and agility of a guard, has the power of a center, has the passing ability like Magic with insane court vision, has the scoring ability (when he wants to) like Jordan, one of the highest basketball IQ's.
LeBron is one of the all-time must watches the game has ever seen. But the actual aesthetics of his game?

He lacks the fluidity, crispness, creativity, and virtuoso of the MJs, Kobes, Wades, Isiahs, CP3s of the world. He's entertaining, but given his size and the perimeter game he plays ... sometimes he comes off as clunky and cumbersome.

So not the most aesthetically pleasing game of all-time. I would add Bird to my list. Magic would be on there if his defense wasn't so atrocious, and his set shot jumper so hideously awkward to watch.

FKAri
05-15-2013, 02:08 AM
How is this even a question? LeBron no contest. Can play and defend all 5 positions. 6'8 260 lbs, has the speed and agility of a guard, has the power of a center, has the passing ability like Magic with insane court vision, has the scoring ability (when he wants to) like Jordan, one of the highest basketball IQ's.

I dunno bout that. Plus he looks very clumsy handling the ball at his size.

Rolando
05-15-2013, 02:11 AM
Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon.

I'm surprised so few people said Hakeem.

This.

Honarable mentions to:

Kobe Bryant
Grant Hill
Paul Pierce
Scottie Pippen

SevereUpInHere
05-15-2013, 03:00 AM
When he's on Jamal Crawford has an amazing mix of ball handling and shooting. Not of all time, but worth a mention.

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 03:13 AM
When he's on Jamal Crawford has an amazing mix of ball handling and shooting. Not of all time, but worth a mention.

I don't like guys that dribble too much to blow by their man. It's comes off too jerky.

Kobe, MJ and Hakeem got to be the best. They dribble make their move and shoot. Almost like in one motion.

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 03:15 AM
How is this even a question? LeBron no contest. Can play and defend all 5 positions. 6'8 260 lbs, has the speed and agility of a guard, has the power of a center, has the passing ability like Magic with insane court vision, has the scoring ability (when he wants to) like Jordan, one of the highest basketball IQ's.

He can't play and defend all positions. Centers would abuse him. Just look at Nazr pushing him 10 feet back and they are suppose to be the same weight.

He has speed but no agility. His dunks are not very creative due to lack of agility. No slam dunk contest.

Only thing about Lebron that is somewhat aesthetically pleasing is his passing besides that he's clumsy, not smooth and slow footed with the exception of being in the open court where Lebron has major top speed but he doesn't have that first step explosiveness.

It's not a knock on his game. He's very efficient like a Toyota Prius but lack substance and flash of a Ferrari or Lambo, Kobe and MJ.

Ai2death
05-15-2013, 04:34 AM
Came here to say Paul Pierce.
Just some thing bout his fakes, the footwork the release.
So pleasing

#number6ix#
05-15-2013, 05:22 AM
Ray Allen is as smooth as it gets... Especially in Seattle

K Xerxes
05-15-2013, 06:02 AM
My bias lends me to Jordan or course, but I won't lie, I loved watching Hakeem Olajuwon the most. He had such beautiful fundamentals for a center. Arguably the best footwork ever, had gorgeous post moves and the dream shake was amazing. His game just seemed so fluid.

Orlando Magic
05-15-2013, 06:13 AM
lol... I really don't think the vast majority of you know what the term "aesthetically pleasing" actually means. I think a lot of you are rating these guys in terms of actual basketball contributions and all time success.

The answer to this thread is Tracy McGrady and it's not even close.

ILLsmak
05-15-2013, 06:13 AM
Shaq. What a majestic being.

I agree with your sarcasm. I think Shaq's game was def pleasing. I enjoyed watching him go to work. People think power can't be pleasing?

-Smak

BoutPractice
05-15-2013, 06:17 AM
For some reason, I thought this topic was about the most aesthetically pleasing game as in, say, Celtics VS Lakers.

Anyway, Jordan, Hakeem, McHale, Worthy, Magic and Dr. J come to mind as all-time greats in that category.
Among active players, my list would be Steve Nash, Kyrie Irving, Manu Ginobili, Derrick Rose (well, not exactly active, but you get the point), Stephen Curry and Ray Allen.

Nevaeh
05-15-2013, 06:23 AM
My bias lends me to Jordan or course, but I won't lie, I loved watching Hakeem Olajuwon the most. He had such beautiful fundamentals for a center. Arguably the best footwork ever, had gorgeous post moves and the dream shake was amazing. His game just seemed so fluid.

It appears you prefer Post players, and I'm the same way too. With MJ, he broke his career up in styles, to pretty much to appeal to everybody.

85-90: Most exciting
91-93: Most Dominant
96-98: Best Post play

Late 90s MJ was my favorite, because he had every style in one at the same time, depending on what the team needed. But I won't sleep on Pip's game either, because he was basically George Gervin, without the "Score At Will" gene. He was smooth with it though, that's for sure.

Sakkreth
05-15-2013, 06:35 AM
Magic, T-Mac, Jordan.

STATUTORY
05-15-2013, 06:53 AM
kobe no doubt.

his movements are so graceful it's like watching an animal in his natural habitat.

steelpulse
05-15-2013, 09:07 AM
Jordan. - man with a million moves

Orlando Tmac - scores at will effortlessly

Pippen - aesthetically pleasing when he schools a player defensively; long arms/legs makes his fastbreaks and lay ups so smooth

Ray Allen - swoosh! Fundamentals

Tony Parker - like the other poster said, the way he dribbles around the court looks like ice skating; tiny hole in D = instant layup

Mchale/Hakeem - post up wizards

Ne 1
05-15-2013, 09:14 AM
I will go with Kobe. He can score in many ways and he does it while looking good. Fluid and smooth. He's not awkward like other players.

He will hit the 3 pointer, crazy lay up, hook shoot, fade away, pull-up jumper, all this while serving up facials. He does this every game too.

:cheers:

He is the most aesthetically pleasing athlete to watch play his sports in history.

This is grace and athleticism personified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpwNTK2d16A


You can't even describe Kobe as just an athlete...he's an artist

Simple words can't be used to describe such prowess....such beauty

You can't even describe Kobe as just an athlete...he's an artist

fpliii
05-15-2013, 09:20 AM
I agree with your sarcasm. I think Shaq's game was def pleasing. I enjoyed watching him go to work. People think power can't be pleasing?

-Smak

Incredible footwork in particular (underrated due to his power game).

As for the OP, not sure. I will say this though...Kobe is one of the best (if not the best) 'bad shot' makers I've seen.

pauk
05-15-2013, 09:20 AM
Penny Hardaway.

K Xerxes
05-15-2013, 09:33 AM
It appears you prefer Post players, and I'm the same way too. With MJ, he broke his career up in styles, to pretty much to appeal to everybody.

85-90: Most exciting
91-93: Most Dominant
96-98: Best Post play

Late 90s MJ was my favorite, because he had every style in one at the same time, depending on what the team needed. But I won't sleep on Pip's game either, because he was basically George Gervin, without the "Score At Will" gene. He was smooth with it though, that's for sure.

Yes, I agree here, although 96-98 MJ was not the same athletically or defensively as 85-93, he was remarkably skilled by then.

I find LeBron's game to be the most exciting today, but no way is it my favourite. He is too sloppy with his footwork and has no real moves. Although he's 37 and really slow, I love watching Tim Duncan play.

Kobe is brilliant too. Arguably best footwork of a guard and had stunning post moves as well.

Collie
05-15-2013, 09:42 AM
MJ, but Hakeem was a close second. The guy was the ultimate blend of power and finesse.

La Frescobaldi
05-15-2013, 09:42 AM
Walt Frazier or Connie Hawkins.

Thoses guys could have a showy game but yet played in a league that had skills rules - no carry or palming or 4 step travels.

tmacattack33
05-15-2013, 09:44 AM
lol... I really don't think the vast majority of you know what the term "aesthetically pleasing" actually means. I think a lot of you are rating these guys in terms of actual basketball contributions and all time success.

The answer to this thread is Tracy McGrady and it's not even close.

If you really know what aesthetically pleasing means, you would know it is subjective.

Bandito
05-15-2013, 09:46 AM
Michael Jordan


Then it comes the Kobe's, Iverson, Nash, Vince,TMAc's and Wade's

Harison
05-15-2013, 10:11 AM
Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon.

I'm surprised so few people said Hakeem.

This. Jordan takes the cake, but from the bigman, Dream wins no doubt.

pauk
05-15-2013, 10:13 AM
Haha... so many trying desperately hard to not mention Lebron.... the way he slithers & spins through traffic in transition with his handling and agility/quickness for his size and then floats above the rim with finger rolls or reverses or dunks with either hand and the way he shoots the ball with unlimited range and the way he defends, especially the timing/process of it... and the ridicilous passes he makes with his court vision / passing skill all in all is one of the most creative, powerful, exciting, beautiful & tasteful games of all time.... Lebron is maybe the most versatile player in NBA history, he does it all on both ends like nobody could (Pippen was that versatile defensively but not offensively, Magic was that versatile offensively, not defensively, Lebron is both), anything you find aesthetic you will find a dosage of...

Dragonyeuw
05-15-2013, 10:17 AM
I'd say passing is the most aesthetic part of Lebron's game, not sure if I'd go as far as to say his game overall is on the level of aestheticism of Jordan or Kobe. Both of those guys imo move with more natural grace and fluidity.....

hitmanyr2k
05-15-2013, 10:24 AM
Top 3 -

1. Michael Jordan - for obvious reasons. Made the impossible look routine and did it with flair.

2. Scottie Pippen - Made defense a beautiful thing to watch. His pull-up three, open court play, and severely underrated low post game were also a pleasure to watch.

3. T-Mac - Similar to Pippen, a forward with long limbs but had guard skills, fluidity and coordination. Also loved his pull-up three in rhythm.

Honorable mentions go to Derrick Rose (the combination of ball-handling, athleticism, and body control second to none for a point guard) and Hakeem Olajuwon (center with guard skills and fluidity).

dannywpt
05-15-2013, 10:25 AM
Haha... so many trying desperately hard to not mention Lebron.... the way he slithers & spins through traffic in transition with his handling and agility/quickness for his size and then floats above the rim with finger rolls or reverses or dunks with either hand and the way he shoots the ball with unlimited range and the way he defends, especially the timing/process of it... and the ridicilous passes he makes with his court vision / passing skill all in all is one of the most creative, powerful, exciting, beautiful & tasteful games of all time.... Lebron is maybe the most versatile player in NBA history, he does it all on both ends like nobody could (Pippen was that versatile defensively but not offensively, Magic was that versatile offensively, not defensively, Lebron is both), anything you find aesthetic you will find a dosage of...

http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/01/28/110128110119205578.gif

:bowdown:

chips93
05-15-2013, 10:29 AM
guys like andre miller, marc gasol, guys who get buy with craft and skill, rather than athleticism are always fun to watch.

Goldrush25
05-15-2013, 10:31 AM
Prime Tracy McGrady made the game look easy. Imagine if he actually worked on improving his skills.

hitmanyr2k
05-15-2013, 10:31 AM
Haha... so many trying desperately hard to not mention Lebron.... the way he slithers & spins through traffic in transition with his handling and agility/quickness for his size and then floats above the rim with finger rolls or reverses or dunks with either hand and the way he shoots the ball with unlimited range and the way he defends, especially the timing/process of it... and the ridicilous passes he makes with his court vision / passing skill all in all is one of the most creative, powerful, exciting, beautiful & tasteful games of all time.... Lebron is maybe the most versatile player in NBA history, he does it all on both ends like nobody could (Pippen was that versatile defensively but not offensively, Magic was that versatile offensively, not defensively, Lebron is both), anything you find aesthetic you will find a dosage of...

Versatility doesn't make your game beautiful. Lebron just looks clunky. He's a good slasher with G.O.A.T finishing ability but his finishes have no flair to them whatsoever. His passing is really the best looking thing about his game and even then sometimes he ****s that up by passing first and then looking away trying to make it look like he threw a no-look pass :oldlol:

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 10:37 AM
Lebron may or may not go down as one of the GOAT. He's a damn good player and most of the time great.

Let's not exaggerate and say his game is graceful and beautiful. Shaq is one of the most dominant players ever but nobody has mentioned him but a selected few.

Lebron's game is very ugly. Let's not bring up those gifs of him fumbling the ball, tripping or falling. Factor in those things and then he flops. Nothing pleasing about his game. It's effective but pretty? Nope.

It's like a fat girl. She would suck you off and ride you. Effective? Yes. Gets the job done? Yes. But she is no model like MJ or Kobe or Hakeem.

Lebron's like a thick girl with booty while MJ and Kobe are like dime pieces.

gengiskhan
05-15-2013, 10:40 AM
I will go with Kobe.

join date June, 2012

after kobe's 2nd EMBARASSING sweep.

& you are still not banned yet.

Goldrush25
05-15-2013, 10:42 AM
Lebron may or may not go down as one of the GOAT. He's a damn good player and most of the time great.

Let's not exaggerate and say his game is graceful and beautiful. Shaq is one of the most dominant players ever but nobody has mentioned him but a selected few.

Lebron's game is very ugly. Let's not bring up those gifs of him fumbling the ball, tripping or falling. Factor in those things and then he flops. Nothing pleasing about his game. It's effective but pretty? Nope.

It's like a fat girl. She would suck you off and ride you. Effective? Yes. Gets the job done? Yes. But she is no model like MJ or Kobe or Hakeem.

Lebron's like a thick girl with booty while MJ and Kobe are like dime pieces.

Those "dime pieces" are usually the craziest women. Interesting analogy.

KOBE143
05-15-2013, 10:43 AM
LeBron games is ugly as shit.. My eyes always hurt when I try to watch his ugly duckling games.. Dude doesnt belong here.. Only retarded LeBrontard would put him here..

And for Anyone who doesnt have Kobe in their list are absolute f@gg0t.. To be honest whenever I watch Kobe's game, I cant stop myself fapping.. Dude always gives me an erection.. Thats how aesthetically pleasing his game is.. Plus add his looks and awesome body and you have the most aesthetically pleasing person in the world.. :bowdown:

no homo

pauk
05-15-2013, 10:44 AM
http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/01/28/110128110119205578.gif

:bowdown:

Oh right... the gif of him missing a shot (looks more like he thought he got fouled and threw something up) after making the rest of them surely determines everything....

Who do you think was "aesthetically pleasing" then? Im sure i can find some missed shot GIFs of them to....

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 10:44 AM
Here are many more examples of how aesthetically pleasing Hakeem and Kobe are compared to guys like Lebron.

Here is a video of Lebron working out with Hakeem. Look how graceful Hakeem is compared to Lebron:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0vQGFpHrs

Here is Kobe with Hakeem and look how Kobe is much more fluid and smoother than both:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vww3lmLQQGM

gengiskhan
05-15-2013, 10:47 AM
PG: Magic Johnson most aesthetically pleasing.

SG: Michael Jordan most aesthetically pleasing in catagory & NBA history ever.

C: Hakeem Olaijuwon most aesthetically pleasing.

PF:Charles Barkley most aesthetically pleasing ever.

SF:Larry Bird the most aesthetically pleasing ever.

pauk
05-15-2013, 10:47 AM
Aesthetical taste is also an acquired taste different from everybody....

I find Dennis Rodmans (rebounding position/timing/hustle, defense) or Reggie Millers (of the ball movement, shooting) or Shawn Kemps (dunking power/hangtime/finesse) game very aesthetically pleasing for example, some might not...

AirFederer
05-15-2013, 10:48 AM
Jordan, Penny, Kobe (don`t like his selfishness though) McHale in the post...mmm, and I really like Curry`s shooting motion.


The best ever:
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/michael-jordan-best-lay-up.gif

:bowdown: :bowdown:

KOBE143
05-15-2013, 10:48 AM
http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/01/28/110128110119205578.gif

:bowdown:
That shit is painful to watch.. Will literally makes your eyes bleed..

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 10:49 AM
Oh right... the gif of him missing a shot (looks more like he thought he got fouled and threw something up) after making the rest of them surely determines everything....

Who do you think was "aesthetically pleasing" then? Im sure i can find some missed shot GIFs of them to....

the GIF basically shows how unorthodox Lebron can be. The dude just got lost in the paint. Didn't know what to do. You don't see guys with fluidity get caught in positions like that.

pauk
05-15-2013, 10:53 AM
That shit is painful to watch.. Will literally makes your eyes bleed..

I know right:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2299055/kobeslip_medium.gif

pauk
05-15-2013, 10:54 AM
the GIF basically shows how unorthodox Lebron can be. The dude just got lost in the paint. Didn't know what to do. You don't see guys with fluidity get caught in positions like that.

You dont? That never happened to Kobe?

I also wonder why Lebron is successful in 75% of his paint/post up shots when he gets "caught" like that so often?

Ne 1
05-15-2013, 11:01 AM
Haha... so many trying desperately hard to not mention Lebron.... the way he slithers & spins through traffic in transition with his handling and agility/quickness for his size and then floats above the rim with finger rolls or reverses or dunks with either hand and the way he shoots the ball with unlimited range and the way he defends, especially the timing/process of it... and the ridicilous passes he makes with his court vision / passing skill all in all is one of the most creative, powerful, exciting, beautiful & tasteful games of all time.... Lebron is maybe the most versatile player in NBA history, he does it all on both ends like nobody could (Pippen was that versatile defensively but not offensively, Magic was that versatile offensively, not defensively, Lebron is both), anything you find aesthetic you will find a dosage of...


Really? LeBron has no moves. :oldlol: You just used a bunch of weasel words. He has no mid-range game, no crossovers, no fade-aways, no catch and shoot off a screen, no jab steps, no fakes, no foot work, his jumper is inconsistent, no post up game, nothing at all. LeBron's game is basically iso, take a couple of dribbles, launch a 27-footer, or just bowl over dudes and get points.

For an example of aesthetically pleasing.. MJ ...he swooped over and around people, slashed and used impeccable footwork.. he sliced up defenses, his first step was pretty amazing also, and his spins; later in his career he relied on the turnaround fadeaway J which damn near always went in and was a thing of beauty. Bron just bulldozes his way to the basket/lane for layups or a dunk and runs into the other player and gets free throws. Not to mention he cherry picks his shots probably more than anyone in the NBA.

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 11:01 AM
Substance and more importantly...flash, when we are talking about being able to put on a show and some flare.

http://www.nbaloud.com/images/kobe-bryant-reverse-layup1.jpg

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c506253ef01157062bb0e970b-800wi

http://www.nba.com/media/kobebry_627_071129.jpg

http://spotlightauthentics.com/kobe-bryant-signed-photo-autograph-picture-layup-blkwht-1.jpg

http://www.jefflewisphotography.com/data/photos/97_1kobe_bryant_lay_up.jpg

http://www.fikbasket.com/bilder/Kobe-dunks-1.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA3y-etCEAEk9UU.jpg:large

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 11:12 AM
Look at these beautiful picture....good enough to hang on a wall.

http://www.sportsviews.com/media/files_image/1/user43698/30279eabec1.jpg

Kobe's signature dunk
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XLZNaxs0wB4/T4yBL8rob2I/AAAAAAAAIdc/m9h2afEkq5Q/s1600/kobe-bryant-dunks-3.jpg
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy106/xyrillcutie22/040709_kobe_dunk.jpg

9erempiree
05-15-2013, 11:19 AM
Here's some video footage. Hard to find anyone in history like Kobe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuswrs-Svg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIGMs1WQuMI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izkRO9HYZaM

To be honest, let's not randomly throw names out there and say there game is beautiful.

To even be considered, that player better have some footwork. Footwork gets you in the door to be even considered.

KOBE143
05-15-2013, 11:19 AM
I know right:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2299055/kobeslip_medium.gif
GawdBe falling in the floor is actually more aesthetically pleasing than LeBron entire games.. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I wish I was the floor.. :(

Scholar
05-15-2013, 11:23 AM
Magic Johnson for sure. He did everything, except flashy dunks.

I also nominate Steve Nash here just because he was the player I attempted to emulate my game around. I just never succeeded... :(

tazb
05-15-2013, 12:21 PM
Lmao Kobe's is the most pleasing when he literally stole Jordan's game? Talk about unoriginal. Kobe = Jordan-clone. LeBron = Jordan, Magic, Wilt, Bird-clone.

Kblaze8855
05-15-2013, 12:34 PM
Bird, Magic, Jordan and Hakeem fight it out for #1 to me. Winner would vary depending on the day.

Kobe isnt much like prime Jordan at all. Hes a bit like older Jordan. Watch 1990 Jordan play and peak Kobe play its not that similar. Peak Wade played more like Jordan....but he was kinda robotic.

Kobe takes way more threes and watching a beautiful missed shot isnt that entertaining. Same with his midrange game. Its pleasing to see when it goes in. But hes one of the most "Beautiful move into a missed shot" prone players ever.

Kobe is great to watch when hes just hot and is making garbage shot after garbage shot. You know those "If hes not Kobe...hes benched for that" fadeaway over 4 hands with an open teammate shots.

Its nice to watch them go in. When they dont its kinda cringe worthy.

Tmac was the same way.

Its only so fun watching super fluid crossovers into a stop on the dime pullup....that misses.

Orlando Magic
05-15-2013, 02:08 PM
If you really know what aesthetically pleasing means, you would know it is subjective.

Nobody would name Bryant or James or Jordan if we're talking about aesthetics.

All great players... all better than McGrady... but none of their games look as effortless. He was silky smooth.

It is subjective but not as much as you make it out to be. There are names in this thread that don't belong in the same breath as McGrady in terms of aesthetics. The dude was the poster boy for making the game look easy ALL the time. He never looked clunky or jerky. Jordan, Kobe & LeBron all have many times, despite how effective they are. They are almost mechanically sound... but they're not as smooth.

And sure, all of those guys have put up plays that were outstandingly aesthetically pleasing. But I'm talking about how someone plays ALL the time and how they look ALL the time. Not just highlights.

We're talking LOOKS. McGrady was Mr. Smooth. Period. No if's, and's or but's.

Durant is up there in terms of smoothness but not McGrady level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3jTaT3pYFE

Look how smooth that shit is. I mean really? ****ing really? Outstanding.

Solefade
05-15-2013, 02:28 PM
Kobe is seriously a way shittier version of MJ, the fvck outta here with that shit.






Jason Williams GOAT aesthetically pleasing :bowdown:

http://youtu.be/AUz18ewZlPo

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-15-2013, 02:30 PM
http://www.imgnook.com/VwE86o.gif

Solefade
05-15-2013, 02:31 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc9jf5D3am1rgx7ico1_400.gif


http://i40.tinypic.com/14nlbmo.gif

Orlando Magic
05-15-2013, 03:53 PM
In terms of HIGHLIGHTS only Jason Williams is for sure up there fighting for the #1 spot all time. But then again... so would be Vince Carter... and Magic Johnson, etc... etc.

In terms of all around game all the time whether we're talking highlights or regular plays... no ****ing way.

McGrady #1 and it's not even close.

Just2McFly
05-15-2013, 04:03 PM
Prime Wade for me.

#number6ix#
05-15-2013, 05:05 PM
Tim Hardaway

cuad
05-15-2013, 05:23 PM
Surprising lack of big men in this thread. :/

Nevaeh
05-15-2013, 05:41 PM
Surprising lack of big men in this thread. :/

Well, that's probably because most big men aren't "aesthetically pleasing" to watch, when compared to perimeter players. They just "get the job done", for the most part.

McHale, KG, K Malone and Duncan, for example all had great post abilities, but I have never watched them and said to myself "damn, that was beautiful shot".

I will say though that Pau Gasol, when he's "On" has a beautiful game down low, along with Orlando Magic Shaq from time to time. Even Bynum is nice with it, when he's healthy, based on his funamentals being so complete. Damn, I wish dude could have stayed healthy!

Honerable Mention goes to prime James Worthy also. His post game was just as complete as McHale's, but again it was more of a "get the job done" style, than an artistic one.

Overdrive
05-15-2013, 05:46 PM
I'm a huge Shaq fan, but I wouldn't call his game aesthetically pleasing. I loved watching him play and liked his moves. They were smooth for his size, but Shaq learned from studying Hakeem, who was the master to Shaq's student. Shaq was more power than grace.

MJ was great, so was/is Kobe.

I loved Grant Hill's and Eddie Jones smoothness and both could switch from gliding fingerrolls to thunderous dunks withing two possessions.

I enjoyed Vince's game even more when with the Nets than the highlight film dunking from the raptors days.

Marc Gasol's game is awesome to watch btw. Reminds me of Sabonis a little bit.

Breezy
05-15-2013, 05:51 PM
To me this is easily Tracy Mcgrady. I was a fan of his for no other reason. He's never played on a team I liked, but somehow I ended up watching every game of his I could. Good looking Jumper, His dribble is one of a kind, creative dunks, nice passing, His body was poetry in motion throughout his whole game.

I would go with lebron but his jumper is a little stiff.

Round Mound
05-15-2013, 06:45 PM
Larry Bird and Charles Barkley...

gengiskhan
05-15-2013, 07:45 PM
Substance and more importantly...flash, when we are talking about being able to put on a show and some flare.



disguisting fake COPIED MJ posters that are immitated 10 x worse.

How can this garbage be aesthetically pleasing.

No Flash, No flare, No ORIGINALITY, No dignity.

Just MJwannaBE crap!

ThaRegul8r
05-15-2013, 08:32 PM
If you really know what aesthetically pleasing means, you would know it is subjective.

This.

"Aesthetically pleasing" is solely in the eye of the beholder, and depends on what that person finds aesthetically pleasing. It's arrogant to state that one's subjective aesthetic preference is thee answer. No one can simply speak for themselves anymore, they say that whoever doesn't share their aesthetic preference has something wrong them them. It's the definition of self-absorption.

Orlando Magic
05-15-2013, 09:47 PM
This.

"Aesthetically pleasing" is solely in the eye of the beholder, and depends on what that person finds aesthetically pleasing. It's arrogant to state that one's subjective aesthetic preference is thee answer. No one can simply speak for themselves anymore, they say that whoever doesn't share their aesthetic preference has something wrong them them. It's the definition of self-absorption.

You're right.

Chuck Hayes' free throws are more aesthetically pleasing than Ray Allen's. You are SO right.


Also... **** you.

This is all a matter of opinion, I'll give you that. But that doesn't mean that your opinion isn't actually just complete shit.

There was a smoothness to McGrady's game that we don't see out of anyone else. Every single move he made was smooth. It's aesthetically pleasing. Watching LeBron James barrel down the lane is not aesthetically pleasing and while, as you said, it's all opinion... I'd also argue that person to be a moron with extremely poor taste.

It's like saying that a beat up, dented & rusted VW with four flat tires is more aesthetically pleasing than a brand new Ferrari. Just shut the **** up, really.

deja vu
05-16-2013, 12:38 AM
Really? LeBron has no moves. :oldlol: You just used a bunch of weasel words. He has no mid-range game, no crossovers, no fade-aways, no catch and shoot off a screen, no jab steps, no fakes, no foot work, his jumper is inconsistent, no post up game, nothing at all. LeBron's game is basically iso, take a couple of dribbles, launch a 27-footer, or just bowl over dudes and get points.

For an example of aesthetically pleasing.. MJ ...he swooped over and around people, slashed and used impeccable footwork.. he sliced up defenses, his first step was pretty amazing also, and his spins; later in his career he relied on the turnaround fadeaway J which damn near always went in and was a thing of beauty. Bron just bulldozes his way to the basket/lane for layups or a dunk and runs into the other player and gets free throws. Not to mention he cherry picks his shots probably more than anyone in the NBA.
This. :bowdown:

LeBron fans are delusional. :facepalm

ThaRegul8r
05-16-2013, 01:08 AM
You're right.

Chuck Hayes' free throws are more aesthetically pleasing than Ray Allen's. You are SO right.


Also... **** you.

This is all a matter of opinion, I'll give you that. But that doesn't mean that your opinion isn't actually just complete shit.

There was a smoothness to McGrady's game that we don't see out of anyone else. Every single move he made was smooth. It's aesthetically pleasing. Watching LeBron James barrel down the lane is not aesthetically pleasing and while, as you said, it's all opinion... I'd also argue that person to be a moron with extremely poor taste.

It's like saying that a beat up, dented & rusted VW with four flat tires is more aesthetically pleasing than a brand new Ferrari. Just shut the **** up, really.

If what I said struck a nerve, then evidently you must be one of the people it applies to.

pudman13
05-16-2013, 02:42 PM
There are a couple of ways of looking at this. If we're talking smoothness on the floor, my personal pick is Earl Monroe. The way he moved was just beautiful, total artistry on the court. If we're talking fun to watch (despite some bumps in the road), it's Maravich, hands down. Also: most perfect jump shot goes to Jerry West.

What I don't find aesthetically pleasing is iso basketball (no Kobe on my list.) The most aesthetically pleasing thing for me to watch is pure team basketball, and that means the '77 Blazers or even moreso the '86 Celtics, the best passing basketball team of all time.