View Full Version : Dwyane Wade - "Maybe some day I'll get the respect I deserve".
bdreason
05-16-2013, 03:41 PM
Wade said this after the victory over the Bulls last night. Seems like he's just now realizing that nobody is going to give him full credit for winning titles when he's playing with the best player on the planet, and spends half the playoffs injured or playing below standard.
He chose to be Scottie Pippen when he brought LeBron to the Heat. It'll be interesting to see how his ego deals with the situation if the Heat manage to win multiple titles... and LeBron gets the majority of the credit.
I remember when LeBron first joined the Heat, even up through their first championship, people were claiming it was still Wade's team. However, that sentiment is gone, and everyone recognizes that the Miami Heat are LeBron's team, and will only go as far as he takes them. Wade is almost an afterthought now, with fans and analysts alike treating him like an accessory, not a necessity.
ripthekik
05-16-2013, 03:44 PM
Yeap, I remember that first year. Everyone was still saying it's Wade's team.
During the first year, for all the photoshoots, Wade was standing in the middle as the leader.
Let's take a look back at old pics:
http://lepotta.com/images/2013/02/Miami-heat-Wallpaper-2.jpg
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/10/21/lebronwadebosh.jpg
http://jumpingpolarbear.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/miamibig3.jpg
:lol
Dagouch
05-16-2013, 03:45 PM
He won't get it playing with Lebron at this High Level. Deep down he's got to realize that when He recruited Lebron and Bosh this would diminish him.
Just shut up and play basketball. You're on the league's best team primed to win #2. Let your wins and championships define you when your playing career is over.
tikay0
05-16-2013, 03:45 PM
Sorry Wade, not that many players get the luxury of sitting out for a shit ton of games, and half assing it while Lebron and Bosh put in most of the work.
Mass Debator
05-16-2013, 03:46 PM
Lebron may be leading the Miami Heat but he is being led by Wade. Wade is basically his father.
Goldrush25
05-16-2013, 03:47 PM
He already gets the respect he deserves from people who matter. Other players and coaches know his value. Only internet stat nerds would doubt how great he's been as a player or diminish his impact on the league.
Wade could've won nothing for the rest of his career and he still would've had an indelible impact on the league after the '06 Finals.
**** feeling sorry for Wade. What about Bosh?
It's like people forget Bosh is even on the team.
tikay0
05-16-2013, 03:50 PM
**** feeling sorry for Wade. What about Bosh?
It's like people forget Bosh is even on the team.
Bosh continually goes off on my Bulls, and never gets the respect he deserves. Wade gets a few points here and there in the 4th quarter, and he's on all the BSPN highlights.
longhornfan1234
05-16-2013, 03:51 PM
Most people have him in top 30 of all-time. He gets his respect.
Trollsmasher
05-16-2013, 03:53 PM
Three-peat and he is easily the 2nd best SG of all time:pimp:
Lateralus
05-16-2013, 03:53 PM
This fool, haha. No sympathy for D-Whistle
http://i.imgur.com/Ka9Rr.png
Haymaker
05-16-2013, 03:58 PM
Bron is so good, he can take a Wade-less team to a championship. Still a stacked team though.
K Xerxes
05-16-2013, 04:00 PM
Lebron may be leading the Miami Heat but he is being led by Wade. Wade is basically his father.
Does that mean LeBron has three fathers? Biological, Wade and Delonte?
Bosh gets overlooked more than Wade, and has had a much bigger impact this year.
If anyone is going to bounce when their contracts are up, it's him. One of the best bigs in the game. He's really their only big worth a damn, and still gets very little credit.
fpliii
05-16-2013, 04:12 PM
I think he's a near-unanimous top 5 SG and top 25 player all-time. The problem is, the fanbase is almost entirely comprised of LeBron and Kobe stans (including members of the media), who have every incentive to diminish his level of play and accomplishments.
Wade's just telling it how it is. :applause:
Haymaker
05-16-2013, 04:15 PM
Bosh could bolt easily. He's getting paid less money and many teams will offer him the max. Will the Heat match?
I don't really understand what he expects. All-time wise he's not on the level of someone like Lebron, Kobe, or Jordan. Currently, he's not on the level of someone like Lebron or Durant. What does he expect?
unbreakable
05-16-2013, 04:16 PM
this ni66a dominates 3 minutes of a closeout game against a team missing half its roster and he wants to talk. LMAO.
LosScandalous
05-16-2013, 04:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HuR88.gif
http://nbadunkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DWYANE-WADE-DIRTY-PLAYER.gif
http://keepittrill.com/videos/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/dwyane-wade-ramon-sessions.jpg
:no: maybe some day
Goldrush25
05-16-2013, 04:18 PM
I think he's a near-unanimous top 5 SG and top 25 player all-time. The problem is, the fanbase is almost entirely comprised of LeBron and Kobe stans (including members of the media), who have every incentive to diminish his level of play and accomplishments.
Wade's just telling it how it is. :applause:
I haven't really heard anyone who's opinion I respect say that Wade isn't still a great player. Everything I hear about Wade is about his injury problems. I don't see how that impacts how great he's been when healthy.
I believe if it were just him on the Heat and not Lebron, he'd be playing a lot more, a lot better and no one would be saying anything. He's just not required to do that stuff right now, and unintelligent observers can't make that distinction, instead saying that he's lost a step.
unbreakable
05-16-2013, 04:22 PM
I believe if it were just him on the Heat and not Lebron, he'd be playing a lot more, a lot better and no one would be saying anything. He's just not required to do that stuff right now, and unintelligent observers can't make that distinction, instead saying that he's lost a step.
if Bosh werent on this team , Wade would only have 1 ring and he'd be even more of a scrub. In fact a feud would break out between Lebron and Wade because Wade is such a scrub now adays
NBAller
05-16-2013, 04:36 PM
lol @ rip thinking that cause wade's standing in the middle means he's the leader.
ripthekik
05-16-2013, 04:38 PM
lol @ rip thinking that cause wade's standing in the middle means he's the leader.
lol.. Wade was the leader in the first year, known by everyone including media, heat fans, and other nba fans. I'm sorry you don't know because you didn't start watching the NBA until 2011. Or was it 2012?
NBAller
05-16-2013, 04:41 PM
lol.. Wade was the leader in the first year, known by everyone including media, heat fans, and other nba fans. I'm sorry you don't know because you didn't start watching the NBA until 2011. Or was it 2012?
it wasn't known by everyone, it was said by a lot of people. just like you said because he's in the middle in those pictures it means he's the leader.. just stupid. i'm doing pointing out your stupidity, you do that very well on your own. almost that time to throw you on the ignore list.
BlackVVaves
05-16-2013, 04:43 PM
When you are as injury prone as he has been in the "Big Three Era," and playing next to a man that won the MVP 2 out of the 3 years they have been together, you relinquish that level of respect you may have previously had.
I mean hey. This is what he signed up for when he was helping to navigate the acquisitions of Bosh and Bron. You reap what you sow...
ripthekik
05-16-2013, 04:51 PM
it wasn't known by everyone, it was said by a lot of people. just like you said because he's in the middle in those pictures it means he's the leader.. just stupid. i'm doing pointing out your stupidity, you do that very well on your own. almost that time to throw you on the ignore list.
Lol, just admit you haven't been following the NBA until 2011. The pictures represented the situation perfectly. You do know that sometimes positions in a photo do matter right? Especially when produced by the media. Maybe when you get to college you can take some marketing/advertising/public relation classes.
And if you want to put me on ignore, just do it already. I don't need to see your dumbass posts quoting me. Just shut up and do it.
macmac
05-16-2013, 04:52 PM
Bosh could bolt easily. He's getting paid less money and many teams will offer him the max. Will the Heat match?
You should try to be less of a retard. Bosh is not making less money. If i remember correctly, he might be making the most money. Wade is making less.
Your retarded brain is not a credible source. Stop passing your ignorance as fact.
I haven't really heard anyone who's opinion I respect say that Wade isn't still a great player. Everything I hear about Wade is about his injury problems. I don't see how that impacts how great he's been when healthy.
I believe if it were just him on the Heat and not Lebron, he'd be playing a lot more, a lot better and no one would be saying anything. He's just not required to do that stuff right now, and unintelligent observers can't make that distinction, instead saying that he's lost a step.
If Lebron wasn't there, he'd be so beat up right now. His season would've probably ended before the playoffs.
NBAller
05-16-2013, 04:53 PM
Lol, just admit you haven't been following the NBA until 2011. The pictures represented the situation perfectly. You do know that sometimes positions in a photo do matter right? Especially when produced by the media. Maybe when you get to college you can take some marketing/advertising/public relation classes.
And if you want to put me on ignore, just do it already. I don't need to see your dumbass posts quoting me. Just shut up and do it.
you think that because i signed up on this website in 2011? just like you think cause wade's in the middle in those pictures means he's the leader? just like you think lebron's not the best? just like you think what dirk is doing is noble? you're close to being put on ignore, the stupidity's getting out of hand.
GrapeApe
05-16-2013, 04:54 PM
if Bosh werent on this team , Wade would only have 1 ring and he'd be even more of a scrub. In fact a feud would break out between Lebron and Wade because Wade is such a scrub now adays
If Bosh weren't on the team, Wade's role would be different and he'd be more assertive offensively. His FG attempts and usage would increase, so obviously his individual numbers would be elevated. NBA players are aware of their stats and even though Wade values winning above numbers, I'm sure it gets frustrating to constantly hear about your numbers being down, despite the team being successful.. LeBron actually seemed more irritated than Wade at the media questioning Wade's abilities.
ripthekik
05-16-2013, 04:55 PM
you think that because i signed up on this website in 2011? just like you think cause wade's in the middle in those pictures means he's the leader? just like you think lebron's not the best? just like you think what dirk is doing is noble? you're close to being put on ignore, the stupidity's getting out of hand.
No, i didn't think Wade's the leader because of the picture. I put the picture because it represented the situation of what it was like back then: he was the leader. You're the one being stupid. You won't even acknowledge the fact that Wade was the accepted leader of the team in the first year, which is what proves you are young and just started watching the NBA. Not your joined date.
Like I said, if you want to use the ignore function, USE IT ALREADY, stop yapping already. "I'm gonna shoot you, oh I'm gonna shoot you, one more step, I'm really gonna shoot you!" :facepalm
NBAller
05-16-2013, 04:59 PM
No, i didn't think Wade's the leader because of the picture. I put the picture because it represented the situation of what it was like back then: he was the leader. You're the one being stupid. You won't even acknowledge the fact that Wade was the accepted leader of the team in the first year, which is what proves you are young and just started watching the NBA. Not your joined date.
Like I said, if you want to use the ignore function, USE IT ALREADY, stop yapping already. "I'm gonna shoot you, oh I'm gonna shoot you, one more step, I'm really gonna shoot you!" :facepalm
i'm not acknowledging it because he wasn't the leader....duh.
ignored.
longtime lurker
05-16-2013, 05:02 PM
What's Wade bitching about? He's the one that chose to team up with two other superstars to get cheap titles. Maybe he'd have more respect if the actually tried to beat the best not team up with them.
ripthekik
05-16-2013, 05:02 PM
i'm not acknowledging it because he wasn't the leader....duh.
ignored.
and stupidity shown to the whole world. If you were watching the NBA in 2010-2011 you'd know Wade was the accepted leader of the team, dumbass.
KOLBCTEW
05-16-2013, 05:07 PM
What's Wade bitching about? He's the one that chose to team up with two other superstars to get cheap titles. Maybe he'd have more respect if the actually tried to beat the best not team up with them.
Even before that he never really got any respect.
Kingwillball
05-16-2013, 05:11 PM
No offense but Wadeof last couple years by himself and often injured would be lucky to make playoffs and if he did would be a quick out without Lebron and Bosh. People know he is great when healthy.
HoopsFanNumero1
05-16-2013, 05:14 PM
His play so far in the playoffs doesn't deserve much respect. But overall, Wade has always been somewhat underappreciated.
TheReal Kendall
05-16-2013, 05:17 PM
He shouldn't have joined up with that stat padding nikka. Bosh got it worst though. This nikka Bosh always on the butt end of jokes. Bosh went from top dog to Reggie Evans. Wade better start playing better if he want respect. It's gonna forever be Lebron's team now. He'll always get all the credit like they do with Jordan's Bulls.
That's the story of Wade's career, he's never gotten the proper respect or recognition- even before LeBron was his teammate. In spite of giving one of the All-Time great Finals performances in 2006, people still talk about the refs and free throws.
In spit of being the franchise player to win a ring during the 2003-2010 generation, he was still overlooked by Melo, Bosh, D-Will vs Paul debate, Durant, Rose, Rondo, etc. Being overlooked by LeBron is obvious but the other player, I dont think he should have but he was.
So it's actually fitting that even now, playing with LeBron and winning as the #2/#3 option, he'll still be undervalued by most fans.
He shouldn't have joined up with that stat padding nikka. Bosh got it worst though. This nikka Bosh always on the butt end of jokes. Bosh went from top dog to Reggie Evans. Wade better start playing better if he want respect. It's gonna forever be Lebron's team now. He'll always get all the credit like they do with Jordan's Bulls.
I think it's more of a term of endearment the way fans view Bosh. Nearly most Heat haters don't even hate him, we just get a good laugh out of his mannerisms.
I don't feel that there's any hate towards him.
Rose'sACL
05-16-2013, 05:27 PM
He shouldn't have joined up with that stat padding nikka. Bosh got it worst though. This nikka Bosh always on the butt end of jokes. Bosh went from top dog to Reggie Evans. Wade better start playing better if he want respect. It's gonna forever be Lebron's team now. He'll always get all the credit like they do with Jordan's Bulls.
keep in mind that this guy also thinks that if you have money you can make your own team and enter the NBA without any approval from NBA. He suggested it in one of the kings-Seattle threads.
longtime lurker
05-16-2013, 05:28 PM
Even before that he never really got any respect.
I don't see anyone disrespecting Wade. He's regularly regarded as a top 5 player before this year and was considered at worst the 2nd best Sg in the league for a long time. And this is from people that matter like analysts, legends other players not some internet nerds on a forum. Fact is that he's been injury plagued and hasn't done much in the playoffs between his last title and forming the big 3. All this whining he knew what he was getting into when he formed up.
305Baller
05-16-2013, 05:30 PM
Wow. Wade is tripping. He is very respected.
People rank him over Allen Iverson.
:facepalm
Doranku
05-16-2013, 05:36 PM
N!gga putting up worse numbers than Jarrett f*cking Jack and he's complaining about not getting respect. :roll: :roll: :roll:
SewerUrchin
05-16-2013, 05:45 PM
Can someone please provide a link to the article or video with this Wade quote? I'm curious to see the full context. Thanks!
305Baller
05-16-2013, 05:50 PM
Can someone please provide a link to the article or video with this Wade quote? I'm curious to see the full context. Thanks!
this
stephanieg
05-16-2013, 06:01 PM
Why does a chronically injured flopper and complainer who was the centerpiece of one of the most controversial finals in NBA history be given respect?
COnDEMnED
05-16-2013, 06:05 PM
He should get respect, he did something even Lebron couldn't do: Win a ring with Shaq!!
TROLLED
Deuce Bigalow
05-16-2013, 06:17 PM
Three-peat and he is easily the 2nd best SG of all time:pimp:
Smash yourself.
CJ Mustard
05-16-2013, 06:21 PM
Wade gets a lot of recognition for a guy who is top 30 at best. The guy has not won a single Playoff round without a dominant player next to him (Lebron/Shaq).
305Baller
05-16-2013, 06:25 PM
So the official quote is:
KOLBCTEW
05-16-2013, 06:26 PM
Wade gets a lot of recognition for a guy who is top 30 at best. The guy has not won a single Playoff round without a dominant player next to him (Lebron/Shaq).
:wtf: Uh...his Rookie year
CJ Mustard
05-16-2013, 06:27 PM
:wtf: Uh...his Rookie year
Oh, my bad. He beat a Baron Davis led Hornets team. That completely legitimizes his status as an all time elite player. :oldlol:
305Baller
05-16-2013, 06:31 PM
Let's be real everyone:
You hate Wade because he wears capri pants and floral jackets.
Not because of his on-court game.
Need I say more?
AlphaWolf24
05-16-2013, 06:34 PM
:wtf: Uh...his Rookie year
Prime Odom!
j/k.....
Rondo
05-16-2013, 06:34 PM
Stop cheating, being dirty and being a bitch and you might get some respect.
Admit to using steroids and you'll definitely get it.
Oh, my bad. He beat a Baron Davis led Hornets team. That completely legitimizes his status as an all time elite player. :oldlol:
Actually him being a multiple champion, with multiple all NBA selections, with career averages of 25-5-5, is what legitimizes his status as an all time elite player.
Dumbass.
CJ Mustard
05-16-2013, 06:40 PM
Actually him being a multiple champion, with multiple all NBA selections, with career averages of 25-5-5, is what legitimizes his status as an all time elite player.
Dumbass.
If you consider top 30 in the "elite" category. I wouldn't consider him amongst the five to seven best players of his own era, so I wouldn't call that all time elite.
KOLBCTEW
05-16-2013, 06:40 PM
Oh, my bad. He beat a Baron Davis led Hornets team. That completely legitimizes his status as an all time elite player. :oldlol:Using your logic it kinda does.. You emphasized the point he couldn't win a series without another dominant player (as if it were some sort of measuring stick); Well, He did so in his rookie year..
I don't see anyone disrespecting Wade. He's regularly regarded as a top 5 player before this year and was considered at worst the 2nd best Sg in the league for a long time. And this is from people that matter like analysts, legends other players not some internet nerds on a forum. That's the thing; even when he had years statistically comparable, it was always the Kobe vs Lebron show. He's always been relegated to the third wheel.
Oh, my bad. He beat a Baron Davis led Hornets team. That completely legitimizes his status as an all time elite player. :oldlol:
Eh, those Baron Davis-led Hornets used to knock T-Mac out of the playoffs.
They were legit 1st Round threats!!!!
Solefade
05-16-2013, 06:51 PM
Oh, my bad. He beat a Baron Davis led Hornets team. That completely legitimizes his status as an all time elite player. :oldlol:
:facepalm Idiot.
NoGunzJustSkillz
05-16-2013, 09:14 PM
Bosh could bolt easily. He's getting paid less money and many teams will offer him the max. Will the Heat match?
i wonder what wade's next contract will look like. no way he's worth the max.
tgan3
05-16-2013, 09:21 PM
Wade basically has a comforting fact that he always have 1 ring more then Lebron
coin24
05-16-2013, 09:35 PM
Its always funny on here when LeBron stans go out of there way to diminish Wade to make LeBron look better:lol
Hopefully it gets to Wade and he guns for FMVP:rockon:
True heat fans will be happy, Wade fans ecstatic, Lebron stans in panic meltdown mode:roll:
HoopDreams247
05-16-2013, 09:38 PM
i'm not acknowledging it because he wasn't the leader....duh.
ignored.
He's right tho
305Baller
05-16-2013, 09:39 PM
Its always funny on here when LeBron stans go out of there way to diminish Wade to make LeBron look better:lol
Hopefully it gets to Wade and he guns for FMVP:rockon:
True heat fans will be happy, Wade fans ecstatic, Lebron stans in panic meltdown mode:roll:
:facepalm
toooo
05-16-2013, 09:40 PM
This fool, haha. No sympathy for D-Whistle
http://i.imgur.com/Ka9Rr.png
:roll: :applause: :roll: :applause: :roll: :applause:
Bandito
05-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Lebron may be leading the Miami Heat but he is being led by Wade. Wade is basically his father.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64zwaWROz1r5j928o1_500.gif
305Baller
05-16-2013, 09:58 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64zwaWROz1r5j928o1_500.gif
:facepalm :facepalm
Ancient Legend
05-16-2013, 10:10 PM
Wade's ego is starting to become problematic, this was expected but hope they can sort stuff out. Riles must step in and talk to him.
SpecialQue
05-16-2013, 10:11 PM
Wade to Lebron:
"Hey, why don't you come over and live at my house? Oh, you want me to sign over the deed to you? That's cool. Oh, you want to fvck my wife, too? Um, OK. Go ahead."
Wade, the biggest bitch in the NBA.
Derka
05-16-2013, 10:14 PM
And someday my wang will grow four more inches :confusedshrug:
TheBigVeto
05-16-2013, 11:41 PM
He has a tainted FMVP. Dwhistle does not deserve respect at all.
MARLO
05-16-2013, 11:59 PM
http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/nba_g_wade_b1_400.jpeg
Nope.
NBAller
05-17-2013, 12:53 AM
He's right tho
are you serious? what made him the leader?
Smoke117
05-17-2013, 03:50 AM
He has become super underrated right now by a lot of people. Everyone talks all this shit while he's got an aching knee and just forgets the absolute tear he went on during that 27 game win streak. For a 2 month period he actually led the league in POINTS IN THE PAINT AS A GUARD. When he's good and healthy there is no better guard in the league at getting into the paint and at the rim and scoring there. Then when his jump shot is falling he's basically unstoppable. That is one of the things which made what Monta Ellis said about how he was as good as Wade so hilarious. Ellis is just a chucker who shoots jump shots. Wade actually gets to the basket and is able to get his points in the paint more than even big men do.
The way he plays though is just high risk for getting hurt. When you go into the paint you are going to get banged up. A bone bruise can take weeks to a couple of months to completely heal and it hurts a lot. Were not going to see that Wade we saw during that streak in the playoffs. Just looking to the future the Heat should start off really dominant next season when Wade is coming into the season with no knee problems like he did this season coming off of knee surgery on the other knee. He has no structural damage so he'll be good and healthy.
plowking
05-17-2013, 05:42 AM
Wade's not even talking about since Lebron joined. Even before he was getting snubbed of honors and accolades.
People never saw him as Kobe or Bron's equal when in fact he was and could do everything they could do in his prime. He won a chip, he carried shitty teams to playoffs and put up jaw dropping stats.
Wade anchored one of the best defenses in the NBA before the big 3, but somehow coaches find a way to give Kobe and Chris Paul votes over him. Freaking ridiculous. The guys is criminally underrated all time. His resume is tarnished slightly because of dumb ass coaches and the media not paying attention to the great things he was doing.
ILLsmak
05-17-2013, 05:49 AM
Wade's respect comes from what he did before Bron.
-Smak
2swift4u
05-17-2013, 05:54 AM
Actually Wade said: "Maybe some day I'll get the respect I deserve. Whatever that may be".
So he didn't say that he thinks he deserves more respect. I think he was talking about the fact that people say he's done and he's not a good player anymore. So once his career is over people will stop talking bs and start to appreciate him as a player.
aj1987
05-17-2013, 05:54 AM
Wade's not even talking about since Lebron joined. Even before he was getting snubbed of honors and accolades.
People never saw him as Kobe or Bron's equal when in fact he was and could do everything they could do in his prime. He won a chip, he carried shitty teams to playoffs and put up jaw dropping stats.
Wade anchored one of the best defenses in the NBA before the big 3, but somehow coaches find a way to give Kobe and Chris Paul votes over him. Freaking ridiculous. The guys is criminally underrated all time. His resume is tarnished slightly because of dumb ass coaches and the media not paying attention to the great things he was doing.
:applause: Couldn't have said it better myself.
ILLsmak
05-17-2013, 05:56 AM
Actually Wade said: "Maybe some day I'll get the respect I deserve. Whatever that may be".
So he didn't say that he thinks he deserves more respect. I think he was talking about the fact that people say he's done and he's not a good player anymore. So once his career is over people will stop talking bs and start to appreciate him as a player.
Usually when someone says that they are implying that they deserve more respect. And what you said is basically another way to say "He'll get more respect when his career is over."
-Smak
unbreakable
05-17-2013, 05:59 AM
wade "i could still lead the league in scoring if i had my own team" LOL
aj1987
05-17-2013, 06:07 AM
wade "i could still lead the league in scoring if i had my own team" LOL
He could, if he jacks up 20+ shots a games instead of his 15 now. That would be detrimental to the team though.
Alan Ogg
05-17-2013, 08:52 AM
Wade took some old HEAT teams to the playoffs with Michael Beasley as his 2nd best player. Respect.
derb2k2
05-17-2013, 08:53 AM
true Heat fans know his worth. I can't wait until his statue greets me everytime I go to a game at the AAA.
deja vu
05-17-2013, 09:04 AM
He would have earned respect if he didn't collude with LeBron and Bosh to form a stacked team in the worst possible manner. That was a bitch move and now nobody respects him except for a few bandwagon Heat fans. :facepalm
AintNoSunshine
05-17-2013, 09:33 AM
I respect Wade and all, but you want credit after hitting 3 buckets? What? At least win the title before you talk about getting credit:facepalm
derb2k2
05-17-2013, 09:40 AM
I respect Wade and all, but you want credit after hitting 3 buckets? What? At least win the title before you talk about getting credit:facepalm
he's one of the most underrated players of this generation. Maybe all-time
I can't respect Wade because he's not pulling his weight. He was hurt last year and he's hurt again this year with the same knee injury. Either retire or ask yourself to be traded so you can help the team!
And stop riding LBJ's coat tails! :facepalm
R.I.P.
05-17-2013, 09:59 AM
Assholes are rarely popular, because they are assholes.
Sarcastic
05-17-2013, 10:18 AM
true Heat fans know his worth. I can't wait until his statue greets me everytime I go to a game at the AAA.
Yea all 5 of them know.
Bandito
05-17-2013, 10:50 AM
Wade's not even talking about since Lebron joined. Even before he was getting snubbed of honors and accolades.
People never saw him as Kobe or Bron's equal when in fact he was and could do everything they could do in his prime. He won a chip, he carried shitty teams to playoffs and put up jaw dropping stats.
Wade anchored one of the best defenses in the NBA before the big 3, but somehow coaches find a way to give Kobe and Chris Paul votes over him. Freaking ridiculous. The guys is criminally underrated all time. His resume is tarnished slightly because of dumb ass coaches and the media not paying attention to the great things he was doing.
:bowdown:
I think he was on the tier of the Kobe's, Lebron's, Iverson, Paul etc..
nycjeff45
05-17-2013, 10:54 AM
are you serious? what made him the leader?
ofcourse lebron is the leader, they are giving him respect because he was the face of the heat, its like a newly hired manager respecting employess that have been working there forever, same shiet...
Apogee
05-17-2013, 10:54 AM
Yea all 5 of them know.
:facepalm Yes because you live in Miami and go to the games...
Its sad that you have to hate on the Heat fans since you have nothing else to bring the Heat down with :oldlol:
Dresta
05-17-2013, 11:00 AM
Lebron may be leading the Miami Heat but he is being led by Wade. Wade is basically his father.
haha, so true.
Sarcastic
05-17-2013, 11:01 AM
:facepalm Yes because you live in Miami and go to the games...
Its sad that you have to hate on the Heat fans since you have nothing else to bring the Heat down with :oldlol:
Come on. I live in NY. South Beach is half made up from New Yorkers. In fact I am going down there next month. Miami cares about the Dolphins and the Hurricanes. It's a football town first and foremost.
derb2k2
05-17-2013, 11:56 AM
Come on. I live in NY. South Beach is half made up from New Yorkers. In fact I am going down there next month. Miami cares about the Dolphins and the Hurricanes. It's a football town first and foremost.
This is fast changing due to the Dolphn's futility. I admit, i'm a dolfan first, but i've been watching the Heat since y2k. Call it fairweather, but the Heat are here to stay regardless of win or lose.
Knoe Itawl
05-17-2013, 04:54 PM
Wade's my 2nd favorite player of all time. His inury situation has unfortunately lead to him not being held in the esteem that perhaps he could've been. I would take him at peak over Bryant. I think most unbiased, knoweldegable basketball fans don't find that to be unreasonable. If you want to talk longevity, career accomplishments and all that then they obviously favor Bryant. However, I think if Wade could've stayed healthy for longer, he would've gone down as the better player. As a fan though, I'm content with honestly believing his peak was better than Bryant's. That's good enough.
SamuraiSWISH
05-17-2013, 04:57 PM
No Dwyane, you lost all credibility post 2010. And you keep refusing to earn it back in any sort of capacity, and your image has been regressing for several years now. Ref baiting instead of buckets, recruiting LeBron and then forfeiting dominance to him, making fun of star contemporaries, and those outfits don't help your cause either.
AngelEyes
05-17-2013, 04:59 PM
I miss young Dwyane Wade, he's become so whiny and unlikable.
Doctor Rivers
05-17-2013, 05:00 PM
I think most unbiased, knoweldegable basketball fans...
You don't qualify then.
NumberSix
05-17-2013, 06:56 PM
Dwyane Wade.
Legends66NBA7
05-17-2013, 07:59 PM
I really don't know what more respect he wants. Some people call him 'god' on here.
And in terms of him being underrated on an all-time list or just overall... I just don't see it. Again, he gets talked up all the time on here, whether he's playing great or horribly, most recognize his game is elite with his only draw back being shooting, turnovers, and sometimes consistency on his defense. I've never seen anyone not recognize that he's up there with the best of the best at his peak. Also, I would say he's rated about right, which is Top 25-30 range. I mean, where's he supposed to be ? Top 15-20 ? Don't see the case for him, although it could be made (I wouldn't). He's not Top 10 either.
Now in the future, he probably will get a little lost for the fans who didn't watch him. It's just not happening right now, IMO.
Cali Syndicate
05-17-2013, 08:36 PM
**** feeling sorry for Wade. What about Bosh?
It's like people forget Bosh is even on the team.
Lebron and Wade are the hot girlfriends. Bosh is the plus sized friend with the funny personality.
Legends66NBA7
05-17-2013, 08:38 PM
Bosh is the plus sized friend with the funny personality.
Nah, Bosh is a fraud. Dude is way different off camera, from what I'm told from people in Toronto who used to do interviews with him. Total ass kiss for the camera. I've heard T.J. Ford was the same way.
imdaman99
05-17-2013, 08:39 PM
hes talking to you pauk :facepalm
Bandito
05-17-2013, 08:41 PM
Wade's my 2nd favorite player of all time. His inury situation has unfortunately lead to him not being held in the esteem that perhaps he could've been. I would take him at peak over Bryant. I think most unbiased, knoweldegable basketball fans don't find that to be unreasonable. If you want to talk longevity, career accomplishments and all that then they obviously favor Bryant. However, I think if Wade could've stayed healthy for longer, he would've gone down as the better player. As a fan though, I'm content with honestly believing his peak was better than Bryant's. That's good enough.
Um no.
okayabc123
05-17-2013, 09:29 PM
wade had one year where he was just as good as kobe, other than that I don't even think you can compare the two. Wade never had a good outside shot, he made some athletic plays, but not to the degree of what kobe has pulled of, all he does is gamble on defense, and he had a two year stretch where the ref bailed his a$$ out every time he drives to the basket.
G-Funk
05-17-2013, 09:57 PM
maybe u don't deserve the respect ur looking to get.
NBAller
05-18-2013, 01:04 AM
maybe u don't deserve the respect ur looking to get.
um... i'll tell him you said that.. when i see him on tv...
anyways @guy that said they're showing respect..... giving him a false title isn't showing him respect. it's lying.
plowking
05-18-2013, 01:34 AM
wade had one year where he was just as good as kobe, other than that I don't even think you can compare the two. Wade never had a good outside shot, he made some athletic plays, but not to the degree of what kobe has pulled of, all he does is gamble on defense, and he had a two year stretch where the ref bailed his a$$ out every time he drives to the basket.
Idiotic posts like this is exactly why hes underrated. One year as good as Kobe? Hes had plenty, where he was as good, and better.
He was as good in 04-05. Many thought he was the best player in the league in 06-07 before he went down with an injury.
08-09 he was clearly better. The Heat team allowed less points than the Lakers, and somehow Kobe gets the vote ahead of Wade on the defensive team despite Wade having no big men to protect the paint unlike Kobe.
09-10 he was as good as Kobe, and again gets snubbed on the All defensive team.
10-11 he was better than Kobe, and in typical fashion Kobe gets voted to the All NBA 1st team ahead of him. Typical shit from the coaches. Somehow gets slighted for a defensive team again despite the Heat being one of the best pressing and run teams in the league.
There is 5 seasons off the bat where he was as good, if not better, and not even including his 05-06 run where he took them to a championship off some of the best finals basketball you'll see from an individual player.
D-Wade316
05-18-2013, 02:23 AM
Idiotic posts like this is exactly why hes underrated. One year as good as Kobe? Hes had plenty, where he was as good, and better.
He was as good in 04-05. Many thought he was the best player in the league in 06-07 before he went down with an injury.
08-09 he was clearly better. The Heat team allowed less points than the Lakers, and somehow Kobe gets the vote ahead of Wade on the defensive team despite Wade having no big men to protect the paint unlike Kobe.
09-10 he was as good as Kobe, and again gets snubbed on the All defensive team.
10-11 he was better than Kobe, and in typical fashion Kobe gets voted to the All NBA 1st team ahead of him. Typical shit from the coaches. Somehow gets slighted for a defensive team again despite the Heat being one of the best pressing and run teams in the league.
There is 5 seasons off the bat where he was as good, if not better, and not even including his 05-06 run where he took them to a championship off some of the best finals basketball you'll see from an individual player.
He was better in 04-05. It's not even a question.
SamuraiSWISH
05-18-2013, 02:29 AM
Some of those years plowking, you can have debate
2004: Kobe
After 2004, things get very interesting between the two:
2005
reg season: Kobe (scored 48 on Wade / Eddie Jones on X-Mas)
playoffs: Wade
Verdict: Tie
2006
reg season: Kobe
playoffs: Wade
Verdict: Tie
2007
reg season: Wade (pre injury) but Kobe endured
playoffs: Kobe
Verdict: Kobe
2008
reg season: Kobe
playoffs: Kobe
Verdict: Kobe
2009
reg season: Wade
playoffs: Kobe
Verdict: Tie
2010:
reg season: Kobe
playoffs: Kobe
Verdict: Kobe
2011
reg season: Wade
playoffs: Wade
Verdict: Wade
2012
reg season: Kobe
playoffs: Tie
Verdict: Kobe
2013
reg season: Kobe
playoffs: By default ... Wade
Wade only has 1 TRUE season of clearly being better than Kobe. That's an unbiased evaluation of both.
Eldrunko247
05-18-2013, 02:36 AM
Wade is one of the biggest frauds in the history of the sport. The phantom calls he gets is just ridiculous and on a WWE level of absurdity.
Jacks3
05-18-2013, 02:51 AM
Wade is the least valuable "superstar" in NBA history. Dude's team is something like 30-5 without him over the past 3 seasons. He's been absolutely horrible this postseason (13/5/6) and his team is still 8-1 with the #1 ORTG. Take him off the team and the Heat sill win it all. He ruined his legacy when he recruited LeBron/Bosh to join him.
As for his career, he only has 5 elite seasons. No MVP awards. Was never the best player in the league. Consistently injured. Never expanded his game which is why hes already on a steep decline.
Comparing him to LeBron/Kobe is a joke. Could you imagine Wade putting up 27/6/6 in his 17th season? :oldlol:
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-18-2013, 02:55 AM
Wade is the least valuable "superstar" in NBA history. Dude's team is something like 30-5 without him over the past 3 seasons. He's been absolutely horrible this postseason (13/5/6) and his team is still 8-1 with the #1 ORTG. Take him off the team and the Heat sill win it all. He ruined his legacy when he recruited LeBron/Bosh to join him.
As for his career, he only has 5 elite seasons. No MVP awards. Was never the best player in the league. Consistently injured. Never expanded his game which is why hes already on a steep decline.
Comparing him to LeBron/Kobe is a joke. Could you imagine Wade putting up 27/6/6 in his 17th season? :oldlol:
You know, I used to argue that Wade, when healthy, was on Kobe and Lebron's level. But the fact of the matter is, he's never healthy. Not only that, though, he consistently plays below his standards.
SamuraiSWISH
05-18-2013, 03:08 AM
Wade is the least valuable "superstar" in NBA history. Dude's team is something like 30-5 without him over the past 3 seasons.
That's a dumb argument. W/o Wade they have MVP LeBron at his peak, along with a top five PF whose game actually meshes better offensively with LeBron than Wade's game does. Of course they should be fine in doses without Wade. They still don't win a ring w/o him, and he still had some MAJOR playoff games in 2011, and 2012.
You've always had an irrational hate for him. I remember the excuses and absurd comments you were making in the 2011 Finals game threads when Wade was showing up BIG TIME. You have a vesting interest to put him down being a massive Kobe stan, so your totality opinion on Wade should be taken with a grain of salt.
He ruined his legacy when he recruited LeBron/Bosh to join him.
First factual statement.
for his career, he only has 5 elite seasons.
Only? LOL ... that's quite an amount. He's been top five in 2006, 2007 (pre injury), 2009, 2010, and 2011. Top three in 2009, 2010, and 2011. Not many players can make that claim, kiddo. That's enough, along with his resume to be a top five SG all-time. He's only clearly behind MJ, Kobe, and West.
No MVP awards. Was never the best player in the league.
He could've had a legit MVP in 2009, was arguable best player in the league during the regular season. And in 2007 before his injury I felt he was the best player in the league.
Consistently injured.
Correct, and disappointing. Durability, longevity, and ability to play through injuries should absolutely be taken into account with a player's worth. Intangibles category.
Never expanded his game which is why hes already on a steep decline.
Another legit knock. Along with an annoying penchant for ref baiting, and playing for foul calls instead of buckets.
Comparing him to LeBron/Kobe is a joke.
Not in terms of peak play, to be honest. When you take into account longevity and resume awards, that's when he falls significantly behind. His body just hasn't held up as well, and he never added skills through work in the gym to off set age and injury.
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