Miami Heat are 45-3 in last 48 games...

[bmd]

Are they better than the 72 wins 10 loss Bulls?

[RagaZ]

Weak era.

[TheReal Kendall]

Are they better than the 72 wins 10 loss Bulls?

:facepalm :facepalm

[305Baller]

Real Kendall. I will meet you on the court.

[dekciw]

Different era, different competition. Impressive nonetheless.

[daj0264]

Short white guys

[Legends66NBA7]

Arbitrary stats and no they are not.

[Fox]

...and with YOUR newly crowned MVP LeBron James as the main man!

Gotta love the HEAT! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[TheReal Kendall]

Real Kendall. I will meet you on the court.

Let's go! I'm laced up! Name the place and time

[bmd]

:facepalm :facepalmWhy the face palm?

They are 45-3 in their last 48 games.

With the way they have been playing, why is it considered such a crazy concept by you?

[PJR]

Arbitrary stats and no they are not.

How is it arbitrary? It's their record(including playoffs) post all star break. *shrugs*.

[DuMa]

No theyre not better because MJ and Pip would have never have lost 2 games against these bad boys wannabes called the Bulls without Rose/Hinrich/Deng.

Miami should have never let their streak end against Thibs degenerate crew of ruffians, midgets and bench warmers

[Human Error]

They lost 3 games over a 3 months' span. It is kinda crazy for me to think that they will lose 4 times over a week. Go Heat !!

[Legends66NBA7]

How is it arbitrary? It's their record(including playoffs) post all star break. *shrugs*.

48 games is arbitrary, regardless if it's post all-star break. I'll check the whole regular season and playoff stats when the Heat's season is over.

:confusedshrug:

Shit is still impressive.

[PJR]

No theyre not better because MJ and Pip would have never have lost 2 games against these bad boys wannabes called the Bulls without Rose/Hinrich/Deng.

Miami should have never let their streak end against Thibs degenerate crew of ruffians, midgets and bench warmers

The 96 Bulls lost to a Heat team that suited like 7 players after a Tim Hardaway trade, and Rex Chapman gave them 40.

[Orlando Magic]

Not better than the Bulls but... they might give that 72 and 10 record a real shot next year as long as the roster stays intact and everyone remains healthy.

Not only that but if they can add another serviceable big close to Andersen's level of production/contribution, they might obliterate that record. That doesn't mean the Heat are on that level, because they're not. But they are damn good and anyone who wants to discredit them because of a "weak era" is just... well... lol.

[jzek]

Birdman is the true MVP! :bowdown:

[tazb]

Heat team will go down as a top 5 team of all-time when it's all said and done. :banana:

[Kblaze8855]

Two losses to the Bulls and one to...who? I feel like it was without the big 3 with them resting.

Bulls aside...when did they last lose a game they tried to win?

[BrickingStar]

Two losses to the Bulls and one to...who? I feel like it was without the big 3 with them resting.

Bulls aside...when did they last lose a game they tried to win?
Only bosh played and it was against the knicks at home

[FireDavidKahn]

Are they better than the 72 wins 10 loss Bulls?
Seriously? I have to look that up, that is ridiculous :eek:

[Killbot]

No. There's a lack of skilled big men in this era that could have given the Heat fits.

[Legends66NBA7]

Just going through the stats by both team, including the first 2 rounds:

72-10 regular season record (OFF #1; DEF #1; SRS #1; Pace 91.1) + 7-1 playoff record (only had a 5 game 1st round series) = 79-11 overall record

66-16 regular season record (OFF #2; DEF #9; SRS #2; Pace 90.7) + 8-1 playoff record (so far) = 74-17 overall record

For what they have done in their respective era, the Bulls are better.


No. There's a lack of skilled big men in this era that could have given the Heat fits.

There's that too, which the Bulls had to go through. 96 Heat, Knicks, Magic, and Sonics all had one.

[Kiddlovesnets]

To think that 2 of these losses are from the Bulls.

[SIRI1]

Two losses to the Bulls and one to...who? I feel like it was without the big 3 with them resting.

Bulls aside...when did they last lose a game they tried to win?
Taking out the Bulls losses, it would be February 1st in Indiana.

[Straight_Ballin]

Not better than the Bulls but... they might give that 72 and 10 record a real shot next year as long as the roster stays intact and everyone remains healthy.

Not only that but if they can add another serviceable big close to Andersen's level of production/contribution, they might obliterate that record. That doesn't mean the Heat are on that level, because they're not. But they are damn good and anyone who wants to discredit them because of a "weak era" is just... well... lol.

Conversely, anyone that wants to credit them when they are obviously stacked is just.....well...lol.

[kurple]

Are they better than the 72 wins 10 loss Bulls?
were their regular season better than 72-10?

have they even won yet?

[bmd]

were their regular season better than 72-10?

have they even won yet?I'm saying the Heat have "clicked" for those 48 games. Are the 45-3 Heat better than the 72-10 Bulls based on how they have played during the last 48 games?

[Orlando Magic]

Conversely, anyone that wants to credit them when they are obviously stacked is just.....well...lol.

You act like Jordan Pippen Rodman + great role players and shooters + one of the best coaches of all time isn't stacked, hahaha.

[f0und]

didnt the bulls have a similar record in their first 48 games?

[Ancient Legend]

didnt the bulls have a similar record in their first 48 games?

The Bulls were 41-3 at one point, that's the best stretch they had.

The Heat are playing .900 ball and have only lost 2 games in that stretch with LeBron playing (as opposed to 3 games with Jordan playing).

[inclinerator]

those ppl saying no big men era, if they played in another era there were more big men to chose from and the heat would likely pick up a decent big guy making them even better

[Killbot]

those ppl saying no big men era, if they played in another era there were more big men to chose from and the heat would likely pick up a decent big guy making them even better

With Heat's salary limits, I find that hard to believe. Better crop of big men available means teams will pay big for their services and Miami doesn't have that with the Big 3 there.

[305Baller]

Let's go! I'm laced up! Name the place and time

Coconut grove. Peacock Park, tomorrow @ 5?

:coleman:

[bmd]

With Heat's salary limits, I find that hard to believe. Better crop of big men available means teams will pay big for their services and Miami doesn't have that with the Big 3 there.But if the league had a bunch of good big men now, the Heat may have gotten a big man instead of Bosh.

There may be a different big 3.

Which completely changes everything which is why I don't like direct comparisons. I'd rather compare teams relative to the era they play in.

[oh the horror]

Which completely changes everything which is why I don't like direct comparisons. I'd rather compare teams relative to the era they play in.


In a sense, you're doing just that in this thread alone, comparing directly two distinctly different records against one another and comparing to figure if the Heat are better than, if not greater by directly comparing.

[Doctor Rivers]

1 star

[bmd]

In a sense, you're doing just that in this thread alone, comparing directly two distinctly different records against one another and comparing to figure if the Heat are better than, if not greater by directly comparing.No, I'm not. You guys can answer how you'd like. But when I compare teams, I compare them in their own eras.

Are the Heat more impressive against their competition than the Bulls were against theirs?

[imdaman99]

No theyre not better because MJ and Pip would have never have lost 2 games against these bad boys wannabes called the Bulls without Rose/Hinrich/Deng.

Miami should have never let their streak end against Thibs degenerate crew of ruffians, midgets and bench warmers
those 72-10 bulls got demolished by the knicks 104-72 in one game.

[Legends66NBA7]

those 72-10 bulls got demolished by the knicks 104-72 in one game.

The 96 Knicks team were better than the 13 Bulls. Much more battle tested, veteran group. Had a better team the following year too.

[Lebron23]

Unlike the other Super Stars teams, they get the job done.

[Crafty]

Miami had a chance to break the record if they didn't coasted for the first half of the season

[Rose'sACL]

No. There's a lack of skilled big men in this era that could have given the Heat fits.
and 90s was a watered down era because of too many teams being added in very few years.
Also, Heat are built according to this era. If there were a lot of skilled big men in the league, heat would have gotten one too just for defense with bosh pulling that guy out of the paint with his mid range jumpers.
I know most of you don't watch basketball but think before you write.this is not Cleveland. heat's front office knows what it is doing.

[ILLsmak]

We'll see if they win the ring. I got a weird feeling.

-Smak

[ripthekik]

Miami Heat plays:

-4 games with Bobcats 21-61 (26%)
-4 games with Raptors 34-48 (42%)
-4 games with Wizards 29-53 (35%)
-4 games with Orlando 20-62 (24%)
-4 games with Cleveland 24-58 (29%)
-4 games with 76ers 34-48 (42%)
-4 games with Detroit 29-53 (35%)

That gives them 28 games with these all below 42% winning percentage teams.
Miami Heat's dominance

Another fun fact. There is only 1 team in East with over 55 wins - the Heat.
While there are 5 teams in the West with over 55 wins - Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs, Thunder, Nuggets

[aj1987]

83% against the West and 78% against the East.

[ripthekik]

83% against the West and 78% against the East.
And that is because Heat gets to coast against those 7 teams for 28 games, resting key players, so they get to bring their A game when playing the West, who have to play tough day in day out.

The eastern conference gives them that advantage for them to play good against the west.

[Nash]

Miami Heat plays:

-4 games with Bobcats 21-61 (26%)
-4 games with Raptors 34-48 (42%)
-4 games with Wizards 29-53 (35%)
-4 games with Orlando 20-62 (24%)
-4 games with Cleveland 24-58 (29%)
-4 games with 76ers 34-48 (42%)
-4 games with Detroit 29-53 (35%)

That gives them 28 games with these all below 42% winning percentage teams.
Miami Heat's dominance

Another fun fact. There is only 1 team in East with over 55 wins - the Heat.
While there are 5 teams in the West with over 55 wins - Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs, Thunder, Nuggets
who cares, they murdered the west as well.

[aj1987]

And that is because Heat gets to coast against those 7 teams for 28 games, resting key players, so they get to bring their A game when playing the West, who have to play tough day in day out.

The eastern conference gives them that advantage for them to play good against the west.
The Heat beat the Spurs without James and Wade. The Heat struggled against the East more than they did against the West. The games were closer. They destroyed the West though.

[Greg Oden 50]

weak era when howard is the best cneter and he is not even half close to Zo ever been :roll:

[Unbiased_one]

And that is because Heat gets to coast against those 7 teams for 28 games, resting key players, so they get to bring their A game when playing the West, who have to play tough day in day out.

The eastern conference gives them that advantage for them to play good against the west.

Oh yeah they deliberately only try against the west, that makes sense.

You know that in that 48 game span, all 3 losses came against teams from the east? And that they beat a fully-manned spurs without james and wade?

[Bandito]

they should be better as they have an extra top 15 player on their roster. But they are not.

[Unbiased_one]

they should be better as they have an extra top 15 player on their roster. But they are not.

great analysis

[SacJB Shady]

Miami will win the championship, other teams should just quit

[ripthekik]

Miami will win the championship, other teams should just quit
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
this guy! :roll:

[nashwade]

why do people keep underrating the current 'era'?

There was no SG a mile close to MJ when he was competing. He basically had his way.

[FLDFSU]

The 96 Knicks team were better than the 13 Bulls. Much more battle tested, veteran group. Had a better team the following year too.


Yea, but that Bulls team still got demolished. Not beaten. Demolished.

[FLDFSU]

In one post Rip talks about how super stacked the Heat are. In another he claims that the Heat is not that good and would struggle in the NBA's current Western Conference.

He believes Lebron has the best cast ever assembled for the NBA's current best player, but does not think the Heat (with said number one player and his belief that the Heat are soooooo loaded-historically) are much of a great team.

:wtf:

[Just2McFly]

Miami Heat plays:

-4 games with Bobcats 21-61 (26%)
-4 games with Raptors 34-48 (42%)
-4 games with Wizards 29-53 (35%)
-4 games with Orlando 20-62 (24%)
-4 games with Cleveland 24-58 (29%)
-4 games with 76ers 34-48 (42%)
-4 games with Detroit 29-53 (35%)

That gives them 28 games with these all below 42% winning percentage teams.
Miami Heat's dominance

Another fun fact. There is only 1 team in East with over 55 wins - the Heat.
While there are 5 teams in the West with over 55 wins - Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs, Thunder, Nuggets
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You kill me.

Meanwhile the Bulls were facing franchises in infancy left right and center because that was the expansion era.

[Bandito]

great analysis
Thanks!

[305Baller]

Miami will win the championship, other teams should just quit


:applause:

:bowdown:

[Legends66NBA7]

Yea, but that Bulls team still got demolished. Not beaten. Demolished.

Got em back in the playoffs, 5 games. It's cool, sometimes their all mortal. Doesn't mean the Heat are better.

[Legends66NBA7]

96 Bulls lost by double digits 2 times in the regular season, 2 times in the playoffs.

13 Heat lost by double digits 8 times in the regular season, haven't lost by double digits yet in the playoffs.

[kshutts1]

Coming in late to the party, but I'm pretty sure the Bulls started that season out 41-3... if not 45-3. I guess my point is all time great streak? Yes. But a lot can happen in the other 35+ games.

It is the season-long dominance that Chicago holds above all competition. That is the separation. Not just anyone can have a ridiculous 48 game run like the Heat, but even that is a far cry from the 82 game Bulls (not counting playoffs).

[dawsey6]

Can they win the championship before we start debating them against championship teams?

Jus sayin :confusedshrug:

[Killbot]

and 90s was a watered down era because of too many teams being added in very few years.
Also, Heat are built according to this era. If there were a lot of skilled big men in the league, heat would have gotten one too just for defense with bosh pulling that guy out of the paint with his mid range jumpers.
I know most of you don't watch basketball but think before you write.this is not Cleveland. heat's front office knows what it is doing.

I understand that, but I'm saying

If there were more skilled big men, then all of them would get paid because basically every single team needs one.

I can watch basketball just fine.