What is stopping Hibbert from dominating Miami?

[Nick Young]

What on Miami is stopping Roy Hibbert from dominating them offensively?

[Alan]

Hibbert's lack of offensive skills?

[tpols]

Ref's.

If Bron and Wade know what's good they're gonna go right at him every time.

George and Stephenson need to be ready to take hard fouls for their boy.

[STATUTORY]

Ref's.

If Bron and Wade know what's good they're gonna go right at him every time.

George and Stephenson need to be ready to take hard fouls for their boy.

:applause: came in to post the exact samething

we will see replays of lebron "fronting" Hibbert but the camera will pan away when Lebron be elbowing, pushing, kicking, and otherwsie fouling Hibbert



then he will get credited for tough defense on hibbert.

[PJR]

The fact that he's only a 12/8 on 45% shooting type of player.

You're welcome.

[LikeABosh]

Because he's not that good.

[Nick Young]

The fact that he's only a 12/8 on 45% shooting type of player.

You're welcome.
He's huge and Miami is small. Nothing should be stopping him if the game is called fairly.

[K Xerxes]

Expert fronting and timed rotations...

But mainly that Hibbert is offensively inept for his size.

[Le Shaqtus]

He's huge and Miami is small. Nothing should be stopping him if the game is called fairly.

Yeah but it won't be.

[Rameek]

I dont know of he can get such a deep post position one on one. Depends on if Miami plays him straight up with Haslem or Bosh. Miami is a smart team they wont double him every time and anywhere he gets the ball.

[Doranku]

He will be in foul trouble every game until Miami is up 3-1.

Other than that, he's just not very good.

[KyrieTheFuture]

He's ****ing terrible that's what is preventing him. He's the worst shooting big man I've ever seen I don't understand the love for him.

[arifgokcen]

What on Miami is stopping Roy Hibbert from dominating them offensively?
Trolling has reached another level i see.

Let me put it this way as an offensive player i would rather have asik.He is 7'2 and averaged 11.9 on .448%.Thats just pathetic.

and on the defensive end he is gonna struggle a lot because of bosh.I really cant see him having any effect in 4th quarter when miami goes small

[Joey3000]

*Shaqvoice*BirdmanBirdmannn*Shaqvoice*

[Rose'sACL]

Funny thing is that most people in this thread worrying about refs favoring Miami are lakers fans. Pretty weird given that refs didn't favor miami in regular season where they were 11th in FTA and are now 5th in FTA per game in playoffs after playing a bulls team that was trying to wrap hands around lebron everytime he was going to the rim to avoid and 1 plays.
Also, who told you guys that hibbert is a really big offensive threat?

[Derka]

He's huge and Miami is small. Nothing should be stopping him if the game is called fairly.

You've clearly never played a game of basketball in your life.

[hawkfan]

What on Miami is stopping Roy Hibbert from dominating them offensively?

Help defense from James, Wade, Battier, Chalmers.

Who played help defense on the Knicks?

:wtf:

[Rose'sACL]

Hibbert would be a max contract player if he could score 18+ points a game on small ball teams like Miami for a whole 7 games series. The only way you are scoring big on miami is if you can shoot the basketball or you have 2 skilled big men like girzzlies do.
Miami is not great at defending 3 pt. shots. they are great at denying ball to certain players inside. If you can't catch it, how will you put it in the basket?

[andremiller07]

Double teams?

[Nash]

the same people that stopped noah, gibson and boozer. just put a body on him and let the defense and his own lack of skills take care of the rest. Miami took care of a much better hibbert from last season without Birdman and Bosh.

[wagexslave]

Roy Hibbert is stopping him...

[AintNoSunshine]

He's huge and Miami is small. Nothing should be stopping him if the game is called fairly.


How much has he grown since last year??? Or did Miami shrinked since last year???

[longtime lurker]

If the game is officiated fairly nothing. But then again Roy Hibbert wasn't able to dominate Haslem last year so yeah

[JerryWest]

He just sucks :confusedshrug:

[jrong]

Either foul trouble, Heat perimeter D, or nothing. Last year, it was perimeter D preventing easy feeds inside. If Miami hadn't been so disruptive from Game 4 on, they would have lost. So if Hibbert and West can get the ball inside consistently and exploit their advatage, then the Heat will lose.

[ripthekik]

refs.

[BBallZen83]

Miami has much better D than NYK for starters. They also have birdman now who will be disruptive down low and aggravate Hibbert. Any Lakers fan bringing up refs is the definition of hypocrisy. Too many examples to mention. Remember the nearly 60 free throws late in the season you guys shot just to get into the playoffs.

[jimmy77x]

Hibbert will be in foul trouble most of the time. He was allowed to stand in the middle all day like it was college and hack and wack with so called " verticality" vs the knicks. Guaranteed they start calling fouls on him vs the heat. Plus he is garbage anyway.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

What on Miami is stopping Roy Hibbert from dominating them offensively?

Roy Hibbert stops himself

[BlazersDozen]

Fouls

[Trollsmasher]

He was playing against Haslem last year and sucked hard.

He simply sucks. The least efficient center since 60s.

[East_Stone_Ya]

http://www.thecitrusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/custom_1244139182761_refs.jpg

[tazb]

LeBron. :rockon:

[D.J.]

The fact that he's 7'2" 280 and shot less than 45% from the field. He's not that good considering how big he is. He dominated the Knicks because their D is based on team defense, not dominant defensive bigs. Miami isn't much different in that regard, but they will get the calls because they have LeBron and Wade.

[theBIGjabroni]

couldnt last year with a weaker frontline, most like wont again

[GrapeApe]

Pretty much everything that's been mentioned in this thread. He's inefficient/inconsistent offensively, foul prone defensively, and the Heat's defensive rotations make it difficult to operate comfortably in the post. His biggest impact will be on the offensive glass and that's the one area he could give the Heat some problems.

[316MIA]

Chris Bosh.

[Fedor - Laker]

Funny thing is that most people in this thread worrying about refs favoring Miami are lakers fans. Pretty weird given that refs didn't favor miami in regular season where they were 11th in FTA and are now 5th in FTA per game in playoffs after playing a bulls team that was trying to wrap hands around lebron everytime he was going to the rim to avoid and 1 plays.
Also, who told you guys that hibbert is a really big offensive threat?
its not about quantity of FT's its the ones that matter...

[Scholar]

Well, the game isn't today or tomorrow, so I'm sure "Time" is stopping Hibbert from showcasing his flaws to the world vs the Heat.

[All Net]

You need to be great to dominate...

[jzek]

Hibbert himself.

He does not have enough offense in him to beat Miami.

[TheBigVeto]

Heat is stronger than the Pacers.
But if the Pacers can keep it close and competitive, there is no way the refs aren't gonna make calls for Miami. WCF is already gonna be represented by a small market team, there is no way Stern is letting the Pacers go through.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

its not about quantity of FT's its the ones that matter...

They all matter.

[OldSkoolball#52]

I can't believe all these people who are claiming Hibbert "sucks" offensively.

Did you not even watch the series against the Knicks???

He pretty much dominated Tyson Chandler who is a better post defender than anyone on the Heat has.

It's a pretty legitimate question to ask what's stopping Hibbert from doing major damage to the Heat.

ALthough I think the correct answer is probably that the Heat play much better team defense than the knicks (clearly) and will probably, as someone mentioned, keep him from getting as many touches, and then rotating help correctly when he has the ball.

His season FG% is low bc he got off to a very slow start at the beginning of the year. In the playoffs he's scoring 14 pts on 47%. If he was someone who gunned for points/stats like carmelo I'm sure that could be up closer to 20 but the Pacers dont play dat.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Heat is stronger than the Pacers.
But if the Pacers can keep it close and competitive, there is no way the refs aren't gonna make calls for Miami. WCF is already gonna be represented by a small market team, there is no way Stern is letting the Pacers go through.


:facepalm


The Indiana Pacers shot twice as many free throws as the New York Knicks in their series.

Must have been a conspiracy to advance the ratings juggernaut that is the Indiana Pacers.

[Smoke117]

Uh...probably the fact that he hasn't suddenly turned into Hakeem Olajuwon over night.

[Vertical-24]

Honestly, lets not act like Hibbert is some offensive juggernaut. He's average at best. He has POTENTIAL. But he's still pretty raw. He had a good series. If anything, he SHOULD be able to dominate the BOARDS. If i'm Indiana, that's what I am more concerned with anyway. His second biggest concern should be staying out of foul trouble. Playing a team like Miami, OKC, or the Lakers..that should always be one of your biggest concerns.

[Goldrush25]

The mere fact that he's not dominating the league tells you all you need to know. He's mobile, he's smart. But he's also soft, a finesse player. It's almost like he's embarrassed to be as big as he is so he decides not to use his gifts to his full advantage. He should be way better than what he is. Don't make excuses for him.

Also Chris Bosh's offensive abilities on the perimeter are going to give him fits. He didn't have to deal with that last year. Guarding Chandler and Bosh is like night and day.

[Smoke117]

To be fair this was his best year defensively, but he only regressed offensively and his rebounding went down. He did anchor the best defense in the league this season along with Paul George though. The problem is it is offense they need and not defense vs Miami. The heat are a top 5 defensive team when they are in the playoffs and VASTLY SUPERIOR OFFENSIVELY over the Pacers. If Ray Allen was still starting he could average more points with a better efficiency than Paul George. I'm not saying Ray is a better player, but even at his age as their 6th man he's a better offensive player than anyone on the Pacers if you run the offense through him.

[OldSkoolball#52]

The mere fact that he's not dominating the league tells you all you need to know. He's mobile, he's smart. But he's also soft, a finesse player. It's almost like he's embarrassed to be as big as he is so he decides not to use his gifts to his full advantage. He should be way better than what he is. Don't make excuses for him.

Also Chris Bosh's offensive abilities on the perimeter are going to give him fits. He didn't have to deal with that last year. Guarding Chandler and Bosh is like night and day.


I doubt Hibbert will be covering Bosh. David West will cover Bosh and Hibbert will guard Haslem/BirdmanBirdman/etc. so he can stay close to the rim to help on penetration.

[Goldrush25]

I doubt Hibbert will be covering Bosh. David West will cover Bosh and Hibbert will guard Haslem/BirdmanBirdman/etc. so he can stay close to the rim to help on penetration.

Good call.

[Bandito]

He's huge and Miami is small. Nothing should be stopping him if the game is called fairly.
key word here.

[tpols]

I doubt Hibbert will be covering Bosh. David West will cover Bosh and Hibbert will guard Haslem/BirdmanBirdman/etc. so he can stay close to the rim to help on penetration.
Not if miami goes small with battier at the 4 and bosh at the 5(would be smart).

[HarryCallahan]

Hibbert would be a max contract player if he could score 18+ points a game on small ball teams like Miami for a whole 7 games series. The only way you are scoring big on miami is if you can shoot the basketball or you have 2 skilled big men like girzzlies do.
Miami is not great at defending 3 pt. shots. they are great at denying ball to certain players inside. If you can't catch it, how will you put it in the basket?

:biggums:

He is a max contract player, dum-dum.

[SpurrDurr]

Offensively is a very limited player. That's whats preventing him to dominate the league. He's a 7,2 ft player with great defense but still his impact isn't big as it should be.

[AintNoSunshine]

key word here.

To you haters the games are never called fairly, so why bother watch??

[madmax]

How much has he grown since last year??? Or did Miami shrinked since last year???

:lol :roll:

[Sharmer]

Hibbert going to be run off his legs.

He'll be out of gas by the 4th.

[wally_world]

Roy Hibbert will stop himself (though i hope he doesnt)

[Dresta]

Ref's.

If Bron and Wade know what's good they're gonna go right at him every time.

George and Stephenson need to be ready to take hard fouls for their boy.
So a 7"2 guy should just be allowed to go around clattering people in the lane? And if refs call fouls on him it is the refs fault and not his?

Amount of morons on this site :banghead:.

[HiphopRelated]

I doubt Hibbert will be covering Bosh. David West will cover Bosh and Hibbert will guard Haslem/BirdmanBirdman/etc. so he can stay close to the rim to help on penetration.
Battier and Bron play more PF than Birdman and Haslem

[PrettyCool]

I'd say talent.

[ZHAKIDD532]

He's gonna get pulled out of the post to guard Bosh. A lot.

[bukowski81]

What on Miami is stopping Roy Hibbert from dominating them offensively?

That Hibbert is not a dominant player

[SCdac]

Hibbert had a great game tonight. Easily the best we've seen from him in the playoffs... Didn't really see it coming, considering his skill set.... On a somewhat related note, knowing guys like Duncan and Alonzo surpassed Hibbert's playoff career high (29 points) in their first playoff games is a weird realization... Makes me wish the league had more dominant/elite/superstar bigs... I like Hibbert though. Wish he was on the Spurs.

[stephanieg]

Refs are still letting Hibbert defend vertically, so this could be fun.

[tpols]

So a 7"2 guy should just be allowed to go around clattering people in the lane? And if refs call fouls on him it is the refs fault and not his?

Amount of morons on this site :banghead:.
No retard.. If the ref's allow Hibbert to go straight up and not get superstar calls called against him he could dominate

And what do you know.. Look what happened. Paint shut down.

[OldSkoolball#52]

I'd say talent.


Oh, cool, tell us more.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Roy Hibbert stops himself


Deep insight.

[Graviton]

Gotta say I was wrong, somehow Hibbert is suddenly looking like Shaq out there when he was shooting like 45% around the rim during regular season. :lol

Still, if he continues this play against actual big men against the Spurs then i will admit he is actually offensively talented. But I can't help feeling like he looks like a God because of the matchup.

[OldSkoolball#52]

He's ****ing terrible that's what is preventing him. He's the worst shooting big man I've ever seen I don't understand the love for him.


:bowdown: GOAT analysis

[OldSkoolball#52]

Gotta say I was wrong, somehow Hibbert is suddenly looking like Shaq out there when he was shooting like 45% around the rim during regular season. :lol

Still, if he continues this play against actual big men against the Spurs then i will admit he is actually offensively talented. But I can't help feeling like he looks like a God because of the matchup.


He owned Tyson Chandler already. Last years DPOY, Tyson Chandler.

The guy has pretty much proved himself in these playoffs IMO. Plus he was an allstar last year. Just had a slump for a while this season, thats all

[TheStarting5ive]

So much fail in this thread :roll:

[tazb]

If Miami had a legit 7 footer. Roy Chamberlain wouldn't be shit.

[deja vu]

Himself... :bowdown:

Miami GOAT defense can't stop him. :bowdown:

Dude looked like prime Wilt out there. :lol:

[stephanieg]

Even as an Indy fan I didn't see this coming. I thought he'd go for like 18/10 at best. I thought Miami's swarming defense would prevent a lot of entry passes...oops.