View Full Version : Chris Paul is a racist.
3LiftHeatCurse
05-21-2013, 05:23 PM
Chris Paul
Fiasco
05-21-2013, 05:28 PM
We already had a Negro, I'm not sure what you're implying?
LongLiveTheKing
05-21-2013, 05:30 PM
We already had a Negro, I'm not sure what you're implying?
:applause:
:roll:
Not racist, but pretty silly of him.
He should want them to hire the best coach possible.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-21-2013, 05:32 PM
That's....strange.
Kblaze8855
05-21-2013, 05:32 PM
I like Chris Paul.
But thats pretty weak.
TheMarkMadsen
05-21-2013, 05:33 PM
So if it came down to Phil Jackson or mike brown..
Mike brown might have a 2nd stint in LA
Heavincent
05-21-2013, 05:34 PM
That's really lame.
KungFuJoe
05-21-2013, 05:36 PM
"Chris Paul
BoutPractice
05-21-2013, 05:37 PM
Puzzling comment to be sure.
To be fair, his most significant experience with a white coach so far has been Vinny Del Negro, but still...
Heavincent
05-21-2013, 05:37 PM
Not racist
How is it not racist?
Goldrush25
05-21-2013, 05:38 PM
Well if they put it in the newspaper it must be true.
tikay0
05-21-2013, 05:38 PM
Sam Mitchell is the new Clippers coach.
TheReal Kendall
05-21-2013, 05:39 PM
Maybe he wants Brain Shaw
Haymaker
05-21-2013, 05:41 PM
Affirmative action :no:
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-21-2013, 05:44 PM
Well if they put it in the newspaper it must be true.
Yeah, to be fair..it's the nydailynews - a shitty newspaper w/ too many opinions and no facts.
Notice they're the only "source" reporting this? :confusedshrug:
Fiasco
05-21-2013, 05:47 PM
Yeah, to be fair..it's the nydailynews - a shitty newspaper w/ too many opinions and no facts.
Notice they're the only "source" reporting this? :confusedshrug:
:no:
How dare you question the veracity of a newspaper!
I'm totally kidding. **** these clowns.
Foster5k
05-21-2013, 05:49 PM
I don't think he is a racist. However, not too bright of him to openly say he wants a "black" coach. He may just be trying to advocate the hiring of more "black" coaches in professional sports. Who knows.
What we do know is that racism still exist throughout the world. That is a fact. So, who is to say hiring a "white" coach means the owner prefers such. Key is, we don't know. Neither does Chris Paul. Maybe he thinks the owner prefers "white" coaches, so he is trying to even the playing field.
Either way, like I said, not the smartest move by a smart guy. Race cannot be a deciding factor in hiring anyone for a job.
HomieWeMajor
05-21-2013, 05:52 PM
We already had a Negro, I'm not sure what you're implying?
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/14822775597238373309229.gif
Darius
05-21-2013, 05:52 PM
I like Chris Paul.
But thats pretty weak.
That's quite an accusation to believe with no named sources from an iffy source.
taucesays
05-21-2013, 05:53 PM
Brian Shaw come on down.
Kblaze8855
05-21-2013, 05:57 PM
Well what kinda source could there be? No way he says it in public. You cant expect a source on something like that. Strikes me as pretty ballsy to just make up.
buddha
05-21-2013, 05:58 PM
Not racist, but pretty silly of him.
He should want them to hire the best coach possible.
Not racist? If he wants them to hire a coach because the color of his skin that is extremely racist.
Chris Paul and Dwight Howard need to go to New York and form the most hated team for the most hated fan base, makes perfect sense.
Young X
05-21-2013, 06:03 PM
We don't know if he actually said that. There should be more black coaches in the NBA anyway. :confusedshrug:
AlphaWolf24
05-21-2013, 06:03 PM
( next troll move...hires Lawrence Frank)
Darius
05-21-2013, 06:03 PM
Well what kinda source could there be? No way he says it in public. You cant expect a source on something like that. Strikes me as pretty ballsy to just make up.
It could simply be 1) Clippers rumored to be looking at only black coaches, 2) Someone at some level quips that maybe CP3 only likes to play for a black coach, 3) non-reputable newspaper decides to print it.
Labelling someone a racist without backup is pretty libelous.
Kblaze8855
05-21-2013, 06:11 PM
Again....lets say its true.
What source could there be?
You just come out and say "___ told me....I saw him last night after he and Paul had dinner"?
Its the kinda thing there is never a source for...or you straight up throw someone under the bus.
Ive known a couple sportwriters. They know things they cant print...and things they cant prove. Worse than something small like this.
Im sure some make things up. But I have no more evidence this guy did than I have evidence Paul is some stand up guy who couldnt want a black coach over a white one.
Im not 100% sure its true because I cant be. I just wonder what there is to gain from the lie.
This has not exactly been big career making news.
AlphaWolf24
05-21-2013, 06:13 PM
I heard Jason Williams might be looking at getting into coaching....
perfect fit for LA
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-21-2013, 06:19 PM
Again....lets say its true.
What source could there be?
You just come out and say "___ told me....I saw him last night after he and Paul had dinner"?
Its the kinda thing there is never a source for...or you straight up throw someone under the bus.
Ive known a couple sportwriters. They know things they cant print...and things they cant prove. Worse than something small like this.
Im sure some make things up. But I have no more evidence this guy did than I have evidence Paul is some stand up guy who couldnt want a black coach over a white one.
Im not 100% sure its true because I cant be. I just wonder what there is to gain from the lie.
This has not exactly been big career making news.
My thing is, after 9 days, why hasn't this been talked about ANYWHERE in the media? Paul saying something like this would be a pretty big deal. Just sayin'
inclinerator
05-21-2013, 06:22 PM
he obviously wants them to hire his twin brother cliff paul
http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/cliff-paul-e1356463855698.jpg
Malodium
05-21-2013, 06:31 PM
If he wants black then they should hire this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ).
Jailblazers7
05-21-2013, 06:31 PM
Puzzling comment to be sure.
To be fair, his most significant experience with a white coach so far has been Vinny Del Negro, but still...
He played under Skip Prosser during college. I don't think his problem is with white coaches, it's with bad white coaches.
The_Yearning
05-21-2013, 06:34 PM
Clippers are going to hire Mike Brown.
Book it.
Completely racist if true.
Burgz V2
05-21-2013, 06:35 PM
must be a slow news day...
Burgz V2
05-21-2013, 06:41 PM
Clippers are going to hire Mike Brown.
Book it.
:biggums:
He's returning to the Cavs, where have YOU been?
WeGetRing2012
05-21-2013, 06:45 PM
The owner of the Clippers is a racist so...
Knicksfever2010
05-21-2013, 06:54 PM
I know the Knicks have an African-American head coach; just saying
outbreak
05-21-2013, 06:54 PM
while I'm dubious as to the legitimacy of this, imagine if a white guy said he only wanted his team to sign a white coach.....
The media would destroy them
chosen_wun
05-21-2013, 07:01 PM
Us minorities can get away with comments like this for at least the next 700 years ...its all fair game :lol
MostHated305
05-21-2013, 07:02 PM
:coleman:
Calm down white people. He didnt say it and NY Daily is a tabloid newspaper.
Next subject.......
HeatFanSince88
05-21-2013, 07:04 PM
I'm pretty sure a lot of black NBA players are racist towards whites, none are dumb enough to let it become a story though...until now.
Either way the Clippers are so easy to hate.
Fudge
05-21-2013, 07:05 PM
I just looked over that Clippers roster and there's not one white guy on there. Racist scummy ass organization. :no:
Shepseskaf
05-21-2013, 07:08 PM
I think a lot of you don't understand what the word 'racist' means. CP3 didn't get up and start ranting against white coaches. That would be racist.
I think a lot of you don't understand what the word 'racist' means. CP3 didn't get up and start ranting against white coaches. That would be racist.
It's discrimination any way you look at this. Hiring someone based on their race, age, gender, ect is wrong.
I still doubt this is true though.
Knicksfever2010
05-21-2013, 07:15 PM
I think a lot of you don't understand what the word 'racist' means. CP3 didn't get up and start ranting against white coaches. That would be racist.
okay then WHY would he make it a racial issue? Determining the best coach is not about race, yet Paul made it about race, why?
How is it not racist?Racism is the belief that a certain race is inferior.
He probably wants to see more black coaches considering how most of the league is black. He might feel they are not well represented like they should be.
Put yourself in a black person's shoes for a minute. Imagine the roles were flipped and blacks were the majority and whites only made up 13% of the population. Every time you turn on the TV, no matter what channel you turn it on, every channel is like BET. Black people and black culture on every channel, with some white people sprinkled in every now and then.
How would that feel to you? It would probably feel like its the black man's world and you're just living in it.
So it's not racist for black people to want to be better represented in areas they should have more representation. It's expected some black people would feel that way.
longtime lurker
05-21-2013, 07:17 PM
This article sounds like pure grade A bullshit
tpols
05-21-2013, 07:18 PM
I think a lot of you don't understand what the word 'racist' means. CP3 didn't get up and start ranting against white coaches. That would be racist.
Alright so it's cool if I say I only want white players on my squad. Gotta be white.
Hey its not like I'm ranting about black people.. I just prefer whites.
This is hearsay at it's finest.
Shepseskaf
05-21-2013, 07:19 PM
It's discrimination any way you look at this. Hiring someone based on their race, age, gender, ect is wrong.
I still doubt this is true though.
In order to correct some of the cultural and racial biases that have plagued the country since its founding, it was necessary to force the issue in terms of gaining certain minority groups entry to various basic necessities -- like jobs.
Words like 'discrimination' and 'racist' have the contextual meaning of speaking our acting out against a certain race or ethnic group. That's not what CP3 is alleged to have done.
Alright so it's cool if I say I only want white players on my squad. Gotta be white.
Hey its not like I'm ranting about black people.. I just prefer whites.No, it's like saying I wish there were more white people in the NBA.
westsideozzie
05-21-2013, 07:22 PM
How is that racist? People showing their age.
daj0264
05-21-2013, 07:22 PM
:biggums:
white people are more intelligent therefore better coaches, i thought he wanted to win?
dbk123
05-21-2013, 07:22 PM
Next up he's gonna want to have griffin traded for a full black player:oldlol:
AlphaWolf24
05-21-2013, 07:28 PM
Racism in the NBA...for some reason I keep seeing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNBt4srCn84
TheBigVeto
05-21-2013, 07:43 PM
We already had a Negro, I'm not sure what you're implying?
:applause: :applause:
What a racist punk. He will never win a championship ring.
turboranger306
05-21-2013, 07:50 PM
Who gives a shit if it is racist..could care less about what Chris Paul says. NY needs a white coach..wait holly shit that was racist of me. WHO CARES.. people are to soft now days
DatAsh
05-21-2013, 07:56 PM
Racism is the belief that a certain race is inferior.
He probably wants to see more black coaches considering how most of the league is black. He might feel they are not well represented like they should be.
Put yourself in a black person's shoes for a minute. Imagine the roles were flipped and blacks were the majority and whites only made up 13% of the population. Every time you turn on the TV, no matter what channel you turn it on, every channel is like BET. Black people and black culture on every channel, with some white people sprinkled in every now and then.
How would that feel to you? It would probably feel like its the black man's world and you're just living in it.
So it's not racist for black people to want to be better represented in areas they should have more representation. It's expected some black people would feel that way.
It's racist for either side to say such a thing. You don't have to be white to be a racists.
It's racist for either side to say such a thing. You don't have to be white to be a racists.No, it isn't racist to think there should be more black coaches.
DatAsh
05-21-2013, 08:01 PM
No, it isn't racist to think there should be more black coaches.
It's racist to say you'd rather have a black coach than a white coach, just as it's racist to say you'd rather have a white coach than a black coach. Discriminating based on skin color - and not merit of ability - is racist no matter how you spin it.
tikay0
05-21-2013, 08:01 PM
I just looked over that Clippers roster and there's not one white guy on there. Racist scummy ass organization. :no:
That's called the NBA. :oldlol:
It's racist to say you'd rather have a black coach than a white coach, just as it's racist to say you'd rather have a white coach than a black coach. Discriminating based on skin color - and not merit of ability - is racist no matter how you spin it.Didnt he say he wishes the Clippers would hire a black coach?
305Baller
05-21-2013, 08:03 PM
most people are racists.
Suckafree
05-21-2013, 08:04 PM
Whats Nate Mcmillan doing these days?
ReturnofJPR
05-21-2013, 08:05 PM
Coming from someone who lives on the south side of Chicago, works with majority African Americans, and got my Bachelors degree from a school where I was the only white male (in the majority of my classes) and took courses like Racial History in America (In Chicago mind you), I will tell you all this...comments like Chris Paul keep black people down. Naming magazines like Jet and making everything "black this and black that" only further keeps them limited...in their own minds. They need to let go of their racial outlook on everything and live free. Most people born nowadays don't think racially, however many black people naturally do. It holds them back.
longtime lurker
05-21-2013, 08:06 PM
No, it's like saying I wish there were more white people in the NBA.
Best answer I've seen to this thread. Funny thing is that I've seen articles about why there aren't any more Larry Birds or how the NBA needs a great white hope and how the "average" viewer can't relate to the NBA "thugs" but I have a feeling a lot of these posters that claim racism wouldn't have a problem with any of these.
Fiasco
05-21-2013, 08:09 PM
No source. No worries.
DatAsh
05-21-2013, 08:12 PM
Didnt he say he wishes the Clippers would hire a black coach?
Same thing. Coaches should be hired based on their ability to coach. Skin color should have nothing to do with it.
DatAsh
05-21-2013, 08:13 PM
Best answer I've seen to this thread. Funny thing is that I've seen articles about why there aren't any more Larry Birds or how the NBA needs a great white hope and how the "average" viewer can't relate to the NBA "thugs" but I have a feeling a lot of these posters that claim racism wouldn't have a problem with any of these.
So another racist statement is the best statement in this thread?
Skin color should have nothing to do with who gets into the NBA. All that should matter is a player's ability.
RoseCity07
05-21-2013, 08:17 PM
http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/6011693ff5a833e35320ff5bce085a612f5eb2ee.gif
305Baller
05-21-2013, 08:18 PM
http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/6011693ff5a833e35320ff5bce085a612f5eb2ee.gif
:bowdown:
Rasheed1
05-21-2013, 08:21 PM
Chris Paul isnt racist for saying he would like to see someone black coach the Clips..
If he said he felt black coaches were superior to white ones and he wouldnt play for another white coach? that would be racist.
If he thinks there are some good black coaches out there (nate mcmillian I guess).. that isnt racist.
In the hyper sensitive racialized society that America is, it would be smarter for him to name the specific black coach he likes without using the word black or you will get a bunch of idiots jumping up to call him a racist....
but what he said was hardly racist..
ReturnofJPR
05-21-2013, 08:25 PM
Chris Paul isnt racist for saying he would like to see someone black coach the Clips..
If he said he felt black coaches were superior to white ones and he wouldnt play for another white coach? that would be racist.
If he thinks there are some good black coaches out there (nate mcmillian I guess).. that isnt racist.
In the hyper sensitive racialized society that America is, it would be smarter for him to name the specific black coach he likes without using the word black or you will get a bunch of idiots jumping up to call him a racist....
but what he said was hardly racist..
...so what would happen if Omer Asik said he wanted a white coach. Would he be labeled racist?
Now you see why so many non-blacks have been very weary of the race card and the use of it.
Blingster
05-21-2013, 08:27 PM
Sam Mitchell is the new Clippers coach.
That would be a good fit IMO.
I really like Coach Mitchell. He's due to get back into the league.
Rasheed1
05-21-2013, 08:34 PM
...so what would happen if Omer Asik said he wanted a white coach. Would he be labeled racist?
Now you see why so many non-blacks have been very weary of the race card and the use of it.
You need to consider the context of alot of factors when considering the idea of racism and what different people say..
If a white guy says he wants to play for a white coach in a league dominated by white coaches, then that may be a different situation then a guy who wants to see a good black coach get a shot in league where black coaches sometimes don't get the same opportunities..
Racism has a very long and documented history in this country... The idea of "race card" is a simple minded term for simple minded people who would rather not have the whole conversation needed on "racism in America"
its simple sociology... People from a historically discriminated against group will promote the idea of seeing more people like them in positions of power... Thats very different than promoting the idea of racial superiority..
what he said wasnt racist
Bigsmoke
05-21-2013, 08:35 PM
why
White people coach better.
i guess Negro ****s shit up for you guys
unbreakable
05-21-2013, 08:36 PM
i thought paul got byron scott fired from NO?
:wtf:
Fudge
05-21-2013, 08:38 PM
That's called the NBA. :oldlol:
Like, ive looked over EVERY team in the league and they have at least 1. Shit all adds up now.
Intredasting...
secund2nun
05-21-2013, 08:41 PM
That is racist backwards mentality.
ReturnofJPR
05-21-2013, 08:41 PM
You need to consider the context of alot of factors when considering the idea of racism and what different people say..
If a white guy says he wants to play for a white coach in a league dominated by white coaches, then that may be a different situation then a guy who wants to see a good black coach get a shot in league where black coaches sometimes don't get the same opportunities..
Racism has a very long and documented history in this country... The idea of "race card" is a simple minded term for simple minded people who would rather not have the whole conversation needed on "racism in America"
its simple sociology... People from a historically discriminated against group will promote the idea of seeing more people like them in positions of power... Thats very different than promoting the idea of racial superiority..
what he said wasnt racist
You have a pretty na
Lebron23
05-21-2013, 08:42 PM
He wants Bryonn Scott.
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]You have a pretty na
1_BAD_TIGER
05-21-2013, 08:49 PM
Owners and GM's in all Major sports have been hiring white coaches and not even considering black coaches for decades, but I guess that's not racist? At least Paul is up front with his racism.
Coming from someone who lives on the south side of Chicago, works with majority African Americans, and got my Bachelors degree from a school where I was the only white male (in the majority of my classes) and took courses like Racial History in America (In Chicago mind you), I will tell you all this...comments like Chris Paul keep black people down. Naming magazines like Jet and making everything "black this and black that" only further keeps them limited...in their own minds. They need to let go of their racial outlook on everything and live free. Most people born nowadays don't think racially, however many black people naturally do. It holds them back.There is a reason race is important to black people. They didn't just wake up one day and put on their racial glasses to see the world in black and white.
There are millions of black people in this country right now who remember what it was like to have "colored only" water fountains. They remember when MLK was shot dead after inspiring millions.
This isn't ancient history.
By the way, what school did you go to?
Rasheed1
05-21-2013, 08:54 PM
[QUOTE=ReturnofJPR]You have a pretty na
tpols
05-21-2013, 09:05 PM
You need to consider the context of alot of factors when considering the idea of racism and what different people say..
If a white guy says he wants to play for a white coach in a league dominated by white coaches, then that may be a different situation then a guy who wants to see a good black coach get a shot in league where black coaches sometimes don't get the same opportunities..
Racism has a very long and documented history in this country... The idea of "race card" is a simple minded term for simple minded people who would rather not have the whole conversation needed on "racism in America"
its simple sociology... People from a historically discriminated against group will promote the idea of seeing more people like them in positions of power... Thats very different than promoting the idea of racial superiority..
what he said wasnt racist
So it's cool if I want to see more white players in a league dominated by black players right?
Edit:you answered in other post.. True.
atljonesbro
05-21-2013, 09:09 PM
I prefer white people to help me manage my money and prefer white people to teach my classes in school. Am I doing it right Chris?
sportjames23
05-21-2013, 09:33 PM
[QUOTE=3LiftHeatCurse]Chris Paul
longtime lurker
05-21-2013, 10:04 PM
So another racist statement is the best statement in this thread?
Skin color should have nothing to do with who gets into the NBA. All that should matter is a player's ability.
Here's the thing from my example the only statement that could actually be perceived as racist is that the NBA is full of thugs. A white person saying that they'd like to see a great white player in the NBA is not racist because that's who they might identify with. Just like Asians identify with Jeremy Lin despite the fact that he's Chinese American while Asians span the spectrum of countries, ethnicities and cultures. My point is that the racial antennas only go up when it's a black person that said they want a coach black coach. Hell if Dirk said he would like to see a European coach in the NBA does that mean he's racist? 2 things that stand out.
1) We don't know if the statement is even true
2) We don't know the context of the statement if it was actually made
Anyways I'm done with this thread because you can't have a rationale discussion about race on a message board.
TheBigVeto
05-21-2013, 10:13 PM
Here's the thing from my example the only statement that could actually be perceived as racist is that the NBA is full of thugs. A white person saying that they'd like to see a great white player in the NBA is not racist because that's who they might identify with. Just like Asians identify with Jeremy Lin despite the fact that he's Chinese American while Asians span the spectrum of countries, ethnicities and cultures. My point is that the racial antennas only go up when it's a black person that said they want a coach black coach. Hell if Dirk said he would like to see a European coach in the NBA does that mean he's racist? 2 things that stand out.
1) We don't know if the statement is even true
2) We don't know the context of the statement if it was actually made
Anyways I'm done with this thread because you can't have a rationale discussion about race on a message board.
You are done because you support racist statements from CP3's kind.
MetsPackers
05-21-2013, 10:28 PM
It's discrimination any way you look at this. Hiring someone based on their race, age, gender, ect is wrong.
I still doubt this is true though.
Sometimes not. If I own a Jamacan grill restaurant or something, and it's like a big theme place like bullshit everywhere, and I only hire big black dudes who can do 'the africa face' from Get Him to the Greek, it's not racist. Or if I only hire women to work at Hooters.
This however, is racist, if true
nathanjizzle
05-21-2013, 10:43 PM
i wish i could play this midget 1 on 1 i would break his ****in knee caps.
DonDadda59
05-21-2013, 10:47 PM
That's....strange.
This. So if the Clippers narrowed down their options to Sam Vincent or Phil Jackson, CP3 would rather have Sam? :coleman:
mjokc
05-21-2013, 11:03 PM
LOL at white people always playing the race card.
ralph_i_el
05-21-2013, 11:15 PM
Here's the thing from my example the only statement that could actually be perceived as racist is that the NBA is full of thugs. A white person saying that they'd like to see a great white player in the NBA is not racist because that's who they might identify with. Just like Asians identify with Jeremy Lin despite the fact that he's Chinese American while Asians span the spectrum of countries, ethnicities and cultures. My point is that the racial antennas only go up when it's a black person that said they want a coach black coach. Hell if Dirk said he would like to see a European coach in the NBA does that mean he's racist? 2 things that stand out.
1) We don't know if the statement is even true
2) We don't know the context of the statement if it was actually made
Anyways I'm done with this thread because you can't have a rationale discussion about race on a message board.
There's a difference between rooting for someone of a certain race and hiring someone because of their race.
European isn't a race.
doubt this is true though. Met CP3 and he's a real standup guy
El Kabong
05-21-2013, 11:28 PM
If CP3 really was against whitey I can't see him playing for an owner like Sterling.
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 12:06 AM
Not racist at all...
In other news, I prefer my president to be white.
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 07:39 AM
Chris Paul hates Chinese people.
Kews1
05-22-2013, 07:43 AM
I dont want my taxi driver to be asian. Am i racist?
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 07:53 AM
I dont want my taxi driver to be asian. Am i racist?
Yes, you are.
Apparently, the rules were using are.....
Opposing a race = racist
Preferring a race = NOT racist:rolleyes:
It's not that CP3 wants a coach that isnt white. He just wants a coach that is black. Those arent mutually inclusive, right? That's totally different. He's fine with white coaches, but only if they're black.
It's nice to have some dependable factors on this forum. In discussions like this you can always count on Rasheed1 coming in and confirming that only white people can be racist.
A black player demanding to play for a black coach isn't racist, please. I doubt the story is true, but of course it's racist.
SpurrDurr
05-22-2013, 08:11 AM
Hilarious since best NBA coaches are all caucasian.
But then again CP3 always been a little brainless b1tch.
3 of the 4 black coaches who have won an NBA championship were Celtics coaches. Wilkens is the lone non-Celtic black coach with a title, with Seattle SuperSonics.
hawkfan
05-22-2013, 08:44 AM
Jason Kidd can retire as a player and go coach the Clippers.
nathanjizzle
05-22-2013, 08:48 AM
how is this not racist? imagine chris paul saying he prefer to play with only black players. :facepalm
joeyjoejoe
05-22-2013, 09:03 AM
I smell bulls**t, don't buy it
Yung D-Will
05-22-2013, 10:44 AM
Racism is the belief that a certain race is inferior.
He probably wants to see more black coaches considering how most of the league is black. He might feel they are not well represented like they should be.
Put yourself in a black person's shoes for a minute. Imagine the roles were flipped and blacks were the majority and whites only made up 13% of the population. Every time you turn on the TV, no matter what channel you turn it on, every channel is like BET. Black people and black culture on every channel, with some white people sprinkled in every now and then.
How would that feel to you? It would probably feel like its the black man's world and you're just living in it.
So it's not racist for black people to want to be better represented in areas they should have more representation. It's expected some black people would feel that way.
I thought that before Mike Brown got fired 14 out of the 32 coaches in the leauge were African American
OldSkoolball#52
05-22-2013, 10:46 AM
I thought that before Mike Brown got fired 14 out of the 32 coaches in the leauge were African American
If anything, it's imaginary coaches that are under-represented in this league, with only 2 head jobs filled.
Yung D-Will
05-22-2013, 10:49 AM
Racism is the belief that a certain race is inferior.
He probably wants to see more black coaches considering how most of the league is black. He might feel they are not well represented like they should be.
Put yourself in a black person's shoes for a minute. Imagine the roles were flipped and blacks were the majority and whites only made up 13% of the population. Every time you turn on the TV, no matter what channel you turn it on, every channel is like BET. Black people and black culture on every channel, with some white people sprinkled in every now and then.
How would that feel to you? It would probably feel like its the black man's world and you're just living in it.
So it's not racist for black people to want to be better represented in areas they should have more representation. It's expected some black people would feel that way.
And as a black man, I feel that using BET as a represenation of African American culture is offensive. 90% of the people I associate with have enough dignity and self respect, not to act in the discraceful way BET represents black people. If nothing was on TV but BET, people would belive we're all like Lil wayne, and that all our women dress half naked with no self respect.
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 10:51 AM
It's nice to have some dependable factors on this forum. In discussions like this you can always count on Rasheed1 coming in and confirming that only white people can be racist.
A black player demanding to play for a black coach isn't racist, please. I doubt the story is true, but of course it's racist.
We also always depend on you acting like a butthurt d*ckhead who cant read what was written... props to you idiot..
you need to pick up a book and read it for a change and you will see that what Im saying is true.
I never said only white people could be racist, but like usual you see what you wanna see..
...
I will state it again for those who can read and comprehend english..
There is a huge difference between the feeling of racial superiority and the want for more equality..
It doesnt only apply to black folks.. that goes for women and who ever else comes from a group that is historically discriminated against.
If Chris wants a black coach because he thinks blacks are superior, then he is being a racist.. If he wants a black coach because he wants to see a good black coach get considered for the job, that is not racist.
I a woman wants to see another woman become the boss at her job (because women dont often get a fair shot at that job) she isnt being sexist.
If a white guy wants to see NBA scout white players more thoroughly (because they sometimes are lazy and skim over white players) that isnt being racist.
maybe this concept is to involved for the multitude of meatheads here at ISH, but it is actually a pretty easy concept to understand if you arent just eager to be a clown who yells "race card" at the drop of a hat.
Yung D-Will
05-22-2013, 10:55 AM
If anything, it's imaginary coaches that are under-represented in this league, with only 2 head jobs filled.
:oldlol:
Jailblazers7
05-22-2013, 10:56 AM
Yeah, it can be seen from both angles depending on perspective. But if I were the owner of the Clippers, I'd tell him that I'm going to hire whoever I want and if he doesn't like it then he can leave. No way I would give up that much leverage to a player unless its MJ.
Shepseskaf
05-22-2013, 10:59 AM
maybe this concept is to involved for the multitude of meatheads here at ISH, but it is actually a pretty easy concept to understand if you arent just eager to be a clown who yells "race card" at the drop of a hat.
This is the key point. There are some people who post to ISH who understand context as it relates to life's complexities, but a good many are culturally illiterate and don't want to understand anyone outside of their immediate communities.
We also always depend on you acting like a butthurt d*ckhead who cant read what was written... props to you idiot..
you need to pick up a book and read it for a change and you will see that what Im saying is true.
I never said only white people could be racist, but like usual you see what you wanna see..
...
I will state it again for those who can read and comprehend english..
There is a huge difference between the feeling of racial superiority and the want for more equality..
It doesnt only apply to black folks.. that goes for women and who ever else comes from a group that is historically discriminated against.
If Chris wants a black coach because he thinks blacks are superior, then he is being a racist.. If he wants a black coach because he wants to see a good black coach get considered for the job, that is not racist.
I a woman wants to see another woman become the boss at her job (because women dont often get a fair shot at that job) she isnt being sexist.
If a white guy wants to see NBA scout white players more thoroughly (because they sometimes are lazy and skim over white players) that isnt being racist.
maybe this concept is to involved for the multitude of meatheads here at ISH, but it is actually a pretty easy concept to understand if you arent just eager to be a clown who yells "race card" at the drop of a hat.
Your concept isn't too involved at all, its too clearly fraudulent and apologetic of racism for anyone who watches the NBA. Every team has or had black coaches in their staff. Literally every team. Black coaches aren't taken seriously? Are you sure you are watching the NBA?
btw, I'm trying to remember all the times you jumped at the opportunity to defend white people being racist. This might take a while. You are always on the race train when it involves nonblacks.
Shepseskaf
05-22-2013, 11:10 AM
Hilarious since best NBA coaches are all caucasian.
:facepalm And still more brainless idiots climb out from under their rocks.
Doc Rivers, Mark Jackson and Eric Spoelstra say hello to your clueless @ss.
The more that ISH debates social issues, the less faith I have in the collective intelligence of humanity.
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 11:22 AM
Your concept isn't too involved at all, its too clearly fraudulent and apologetic of racism for anyone who watches the NBA. Every team has or had black coaches in their staff. Literally every team. Black coaches aren't taken seriously? Are you sure you are watching the NBA?
Its not fraudulent if you have ever read a book on the subject...
Its not fraudulent if you consider the ratio of black players to black coaches..
The truth here is that you cannot dispute what I actually said, so you tried to argue against something that I didnt say.. This gives you something to post about about when in reality you are damn fool and you shouldnt be posting at all..
This is your usual routine here.. stop wasting my time.
btw, I'm trying to remember all the times you jumped at the opportunity to defend white people being racist. This might take a while. You are always on the race train when it involves nonblacks.
FYI, I only jump to correct IGNORANCE (yours in this instance). Maybe you see everything through the false racial prism of white/black equality, and you think for some reason I should be defending whites and blacks equally, but that isnt how it works..
When people get the board and start talking dumb, You will probably see me show up at some point to straighten out the record... Whether it be ignorance aimed at whites, blacks, Asians, Women? doesnt matter to me
like I already said, you need to put down the race equality counter, and work on comprehension skills. You need to get to a point where you can at least argue the point that was made instead creating a fake one and arguing that.
That would help.
TheBigVeto
05-22-2013, 11:34 AM
Your concept isn't too involved at all, its too clearly fraudulent and apologetic of racism for anyone who watches the NBA. Every team has or had black coaches in their staff. Literally every team. Black coaches aren't taken seriously? Are you sure you are watching the NBA?
btw, I'm trying to remember all the times you jumped at the opportunity to defend white people being racist. This might take a while. You are always on the race train when it involves nonblacks.
You are correct. That guy hates nonblacks. Just like his nickname in ISH.
Jailblazers7
05-22-2013, 11:38 AM
Its not fraudulent if you have ever read a book on the subject...
Its not fraudulent if you consider the ratio of black players to black coaches..
I'm not sure that's the relevant ratio tho. It would probably be more important to consider the ratios of white coaches in the NBA to total white coaches and black coaches in the NBA to total black coaches.
It might simply be that more white people get into coaching so they are more heavily represented. I don't know the answer to it but I don't the think the ratio of players to coaches means much.
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 11:42 AM
And as a black man, I feel that using BET as a represenation of African American culture is offensive. 90% of the people I associate with have enough dignity and self respect, not to act in the discraceful way BET represents black people. If nothing was on TV but BET, people would belive we're all like Lil wayne, and that all our women dress half naked with no self respect.
How exactly does dressing half naked equate to having no self respect?
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 11:42 AM
You are correct. That guy hates nonblacks. Just like his nickname in ISH.
This is what especially like about ISH ... People are afraid to address me or even say my name..
the guy isnt correct, he is a mad-ball who tried to argue something that I didnt say..
Its beyond stupid to say I hate non blacks because I say (and back it up with sound reasoning) that a person saying he wants a black coach is not being racist..
If you can point to an instance where I say I hate non-blacks? you should point it out or you should shut up
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 11:47 AM
This is what especially like about ISH ... People are afraid to address me or even say my name..
the guy isnt correct, he is a mad-ball who tried to argue something that I didnt say..
Its beyond stupid to say I hate non blacks because I say (and back it up with sound reasoning) that a person saying he wants a black coach is not being racist..
If you can point to an instance where I say I hate non-blacks? you should point it out or you should shut up
So..... If Lionel Hollins leaves Memphis and then Marc Gasol says he wants the next coach to be white, you're completely cool with that?
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 11:48 AM
I'm not sure that's the relevant ratio tho. It would probably be more important to consider the ratios of white coaches in the NBA to total white coaches and black coaches in the NBA to total black coaches.
It might simply be that more white people get into coaching so they are more heavily represented. I don't know the answer to it but I don't the think the ratio of players to coaches means much.
well that would actually be a conversation worth having.. There are alot of issues, that are relevant, and the one you bring up is a good one.. The NBA does a little better by its minority coaches than other leagues like the NFL.
Like I said a couple of times, one of my main contentions with the NBA is that I think the scouting can be poor at times, and I also think the front offices are poorly run in general
For this thread though, I am simply stating that Chris Paul saying he would like to see a black coach get hired isnt racist..
I appreciate people who can bring an intelligent argument and not resort to usual childish BS that is too often seen on ISH
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 11:55 AM
So..... If Lionel Hollins leaves Memphis and then Marc Gasol says he wants the next coach to be white, you're completely cool with that?
As I have already answered this question a few times.... It would depend on why Marc Gasol wants a white coach
Also it isnt about whether or not Im OK with it.. Its about the definition of racism, and what is, and what is not racist.
Racism is about the feeling of superiority.. If Marc Gasol wants a white coach because he feels that white coaches are superior to non-white coaches? that is racist
If Marc Gasol wants a white coach because he thinks white coaches dont get fairly represented in the NBA and they deserve a shot? that isnt racist
people who come from historically discriminated against groups, will promote the idea of seeing more people like themselves in power positions. If there were women in the NBA, you would see them push women coaches.. Its the nature of the battle for more equality that minorities and women have fought for over many decades
that isnt the same as racism which is based on the feeling of superiority over other races..
Depending on why Marc Gasol (Who would probably ask for a spanish coach if if he were to make such a request) wanted a white coach, it may or may not be racist.
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 12:02 PM
As I have already answered this question a few times.... It would depend on why Marc Gasol wants a white coach
Also it isnt about whether or not Im OK with it.. Its about the definition of racism, and what is, and what is not racist.
Racism is about the feeling of superiority.. If Marc Gasol wants a white coach because he feels that white coaches are superior to non-white coaches? that is racist
If Marc Gasol wants a white coach because he thinks white coaches dont get fairly represented in the NBA and they deserve a shot? that isnt racist
people who come from historically discriminated against groups, will promote the idea of seeing more people like themselves in power positions. If there were women in the NBA, you would see them push women coaches.. Its the nature of the battle for more equality that minorities and women have fought for over many decades
that isnt the same as racism which is based on the feeling of superiority over other races..
Depending on why Marc Gasol (Who would probably ask for a spanish coach if if he were to make such a request) wanted a white coach, it may or may not be racist.
What retard thinks black coaches aren't fairly represented? For a group that represents 13% of the population, blacks over represented in head coaching positions.
I'm not buying this "blacks can't get a fair shake" nonsense at all. Blacks are doing just fine in the NBA of all places. If you were to make this argument about Hispanics or Asians, then maybe you'd have a point. But blacks? In the NBA?
Not buying it.
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 12:05 PM
What retard thinks black coaches aren't fairly represented? For a group that represents 13% of the population, blacks over represented in head coaching positions.
I'm not buying this "blacks can't get a fair shake" nonsense at all. Blacks are doing just fine in the NBA of all places. If you were to make this argument about Hispanics or Asians, then maybe you'd have a point. But blacks? In the NBA?
Not buying it.
nobody cares what you arent buying... :oldlol: nobody even knows who you are..
the subject exist because chris paul supposedly said it..
if you dont buy it? fine... nobody cares
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 12:08 PM
nobody cares what you arent buying... :oldlol: nobody even knows who you are..
the subject exist because chris paul supposedly said it..
if you dont buy it? fine... nobody cares
Lol. Why you mad though.:roll:
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 12:10 PM
Lol. Why you mad though.:roll:
I actually you are funny :lol ..
"Im not buying it" isnt an argument...
typical ISH to see someone come and say something dumb like "Im not buying it"
So what?
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 12:24 PM
I actually you are funny :lol ..
"Im not buying it" isnt an argument...
typical ISH to see someone come and say something dumb like "Im not buying it"
So what?
I think that other dude was right about you. You aren't interested in reasonable discussion. You're interesting in being pro black at all costs, regardless of the requisite mental gymnastics.
You claim to be all for real discussion, but soon as somebody threatens your facade, you get visibly mad.
You're not angry. U mad.
And as a black man, I feel that using BET as a represenation of African American culture is offensive. 90% of the people I associate with have enough dignity and self respect, not to act in the discraceful way BET represents black people. If nothing was on TV but BET, people would belive we're all like Lil wayne, and that all our women dress half naked with no self respect.That's not what I'm saying. I don't literally mean BET. I'm just using that as an example because it is the most widely known black tv station.
I'm just trying to get white people to see the world from a different perspective.
I was just saying imagine that 99% of television is "black television".
What retard thinks black coaches aren't fairly represented? For a group that represents 13% of the population, blacks over represented in head coaching positions.
I'm not buying this "blacks can't get a fair shake" nonsense at all. Blacks are doing just fine in the NBA of all places. If you were to make this argument about Hispanics or Asians, then maybe you'd have a point. But blacks? In the NBA?
Not buying it.Considering pretty much every head coach is a former NBA player, and black NBA players are the vast majority, I would say they are under represented.
You don't just base it off of the general population.
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 01:19 PM
Considering pretty much every head coach is a former NBA player, and black NBA players are the vast majority, I would say they are under represented.
You don't just base it off of the general population.
not true at all.
Tom Thibodeau
Mike Brown
Erik Spoelstra
Greg Popovich
Frank Vogel
Stan Van Gundy
Jeff Van Gundy
Plenty of NBA coaches never played in the NBA. Coaching and playing don't necessarily go hand in hand. Players don't necessarily make great coaches either.
not true at all.
Tom Thibodeau
Mike Brown
Erik Spoelstra
Greg Popovich
Frank Vogel
Stan Van Gundy
Jeff Van Gundy
Plenty of NBA coaches never played in the NBA. Coaching and playing don't necessarily go hand in hand. Players don't necessarily make great coaches either.Two of those aren't coaching right now. So only 5 out of the 32 coaches have not played in the NBA.
Just2McFly
05-22-2013, 01:32 PM
Number Six needs to stop talking.:facepalm
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 01:38 PM
I think that other dude was right about you. You aren't interested in reasonable discussion. You're interesting in being pro black at all costs, regardless of the requisite mental gymnastics.
You claim to be all for real discussion, but soon as somebody threatens your facade, you get visibly mad.
You're not angry. U mad.
U dumb :oldlol:
you talk about reasonable discussion but you havent brought any to the table...
saying "I dont buy it" doesnt mean anything...
You should just stop acting like a dumb ass
NumberSix
05-22-2013, 01:57 PM
U dumb :oldlol:
you talk about reasonable discussion but you havent brought any to the table...
saying "I dont buy it" doesnt mean anything...
You should just stop acting like a dumb ass
I don't buy it. I don't buy your disingenuous "he's trying to help a black coach get an opportunity" argument. Black coaches get plenty of opportunity in the NBA. What other league would give a guy like Mark Jackson who has no coaching experience a head coaching job?
Black coaches in no way have the deck stacked against them in the NBA. It just a phoney argument for you to condone Paul's racism. It's not like the NFL or college where they blatantly go out of their way to not hire black coaches.
I wonder what Chris Paul's tune would be if Phil Jackson agreed to coach the Clippers, but on the condition that he wanted a white point guard. Oh, but that wouldn't be racist though, right? Phil's just trying to give a white PG an opportunity.:rolleyes:
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 02:15 PM
I don't buy it. I don't buy your disingenuous "he's trying to help a black coach get an opportunity" argument. Black coaches get plenty of opportunity in the NBA. What other league would give a guy like Mark Jackson who has no coaching experience a head coaching job?
you need an argument better than "I dont buy it"
The points I made are backed up by history and sociological study of minorities and women in America (among other groups like Native Americans and Asian Americans)..
If you consider how many black players there are in the NBA and ratio to coaches? He may have an argument..
I would agree that the NBA is better than NFL or some other leagues, but that doesnt make what Chris Paul said racist..
Racism is the feeling (the taking action based on that feeling) of superiority. That doesnt seem to be where paul was coming from.
also..
Why shouldnt Mark Jackson get an opportunity to coach a team in the NBA? :oldlol: what is your reasoning for why he shouldnt get a job as coach? because he has no coaching experience? He wouldnt be the first guy to get a coaching without having coached before, and plus he has a lot of experience as a player and a leader of many teams when he played.. Considering what he did with the warriors, I think their front office made a great selection, and anybody who would take your your advice and pass him over simply because he had no prior coaching experience would be as dumb as you are. Thats a very narrow minded position to take when interviewing a guy with a resume like Jackson's
Black coaches in no way have the deck stacked against them in the NBA. It just a phoney argument for you to condone Paul's racism. It's not like the NFL or college where they blatantly go out of their way to not hire black coaches.
You dont even know what the word racism means if you think Chris Paul's comments are racist..
Like someone said earlier, some posters on ISH are ignorant on purpose.. Buffoons who wear their ignorance like a badge of honor.. its sad
you need to pick up a dictionary and read it.. you will learn something
I wonder what Chris Paul's tune would be if Phil Jackson agreed to coach the Clippers, but on the condition that he wanted a white point guard. Oh, but that wouldn't be racist though, right? Phil's just trying to give a white PG an opportunity.:rolleyes:
That would be stupid on Phil's behalf, because there are plenty of other teams who would rush to pick up chris paul if he left the clipps because Phil wanted a white PG.. that move would hurt the clippers more than it would hurt chris paul..
:oldlol: thats just another dumb analogy from you.. stop it..
Crystallas
05-22-2013, 02:31 PM
Saying "African-American" is racist.
It's just American. :facepalm
Anyways, yes, it's a racist comment. I doubt he actually made that comment, but the word racist is pretty straight forward. IDGAF though, true or not. He can want whatever for a coach, that is his prerogative, for whatever reason he may have. None of it bothers me, and it's pretty funny that it bothers some of you. Hair triggers LMAO!
It's too bad they have to be American. I'm not sure why he would limit the criteria(again, if true). You have some pretty good black coaches that could do well in the NBA, given the opportunity. Ayo Bakare really impressed me, and he's black.
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 02:39 PM
It not racist to say you would like to see a black coach get a shot at coaching the team..:facepalm
If you say "white coaches are inferior and only a black coach is capable of getting the job done"
That is racist... People need to learn the meaning of the words they use.
edit.. And saying African American is no more racist than saying Asian or Italian American.. good grief..
Crystallas
05-22-2013, 02:50 PM
It not racist to say you would like to see a black coach get a shot at coaching the team..
Who said they would like to see a black coach get a shot? The article quoted specifically said "African-American". Not all African-Americans are black.
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/135/sw50sw8sw578.gif
I'm so glad that I don't view the world in collectives. You guys are funny with this debate. Ipso-facto racism is racism. Spin that record again baby!
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 03:24 PM
Who said they would like to see a black coach get a shot? The article quoted specifically said "African-American". Not all African-Americans are black.
Really? Splitting hairs to that degree is just absurd.. but whatever..
I'm so glad that I don't view the world in collectives. You guys are funny with this debate. Ipso-facto racism is racism. Spin that record again baby!
:facepalm seeing you split hairs to a ridiculous degree in one sentence and then the very next, you hit me with the fantasy Libertarian talk.. Only on ISH..
If you live in reality and look at the world around you? It is built on collectives and groups, not the fantasy ideological talk libertarians spout..
That stuff sounds nice in pure theory, but it crashes & burns quickly when it meets reality... It would be nice if libertarians actually had a realistic way to achieve this individualistic utopia they always talk about..
But in reality, you live in the same world as everyone else, as evidenced by your need to nick pick the difference between "Black" and "African American"
Rameek
05-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Chris Paul never said this and for you all to argue about this is ridiculous. Until he says it or you can put a quote on him then is just sensationalized writing by an irresponsible author.
IncarceratedBob
05-22-2013, 03:42 PM
When's the last time a black coach won anything in the NBA??
12: White
11: White
10: White
09: White
08: Black
07: White
06: White
05: White
04: White
03: White
02: White
01: White
00: White
99: White
The numbers prove it, if you wanna win your coach better be white.
When's the last time a black coach won anything in the NBA??
12: White
11: White
10: White
09: White
08: Black
07: White
06: White
05: White
04: White
03: White
02: White
01: White
00: White
99: White
The numbers prove it, if you wanna win your coach better be white.
http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/game-on/2012/08/01/erik-spoelstrax-large.jpg
StocktonFan
05-22-2013, 04:23 PM
When's the last time a black coach won anything in the NBA??
12: White
11: White
10: White
09: White
08: Black
07: White
06: White
05: White
04: White
03: White
02: White
01: White
00: White
99: White
The numbers prove it, if you wanna win your coach better be white.
Correlation=/= causation idiot
Shepseskaf
05-22-2013, 04:27 PM
When's the last time a black coach won anything in the NBA??
12: White
11: White
10: White
09: White
08: Black
07: White
06: White
05: White
04: White
03: White
02: White
01: White
00: White
99: White
The numbers prove it, if you wanna win your coach better be white.
:wtf:
It blows my mind that there are actually people this stupid walking around. How do they function in society? Hold a job? Feed themselves? Tie their own shoelaces?
Rasheed1 six years ago:
If Whites are experiencing racism in the NBA it is most likely coming from other whites..
there is no such thing as reverse racism.....racism is racism... And people of the same race can be racist to other whites... Racism (in this instance)is when a white person is held back because of their race... Im sure white guys are overlooked or not given a fair shake because they are white...but look at who the majority of the GMs and the coaches and the front office people are in the league... Most are white and I hear more white people disparage the playing ability or jumping ability or athletic ability of whites alot more than black people do..... I think they really believe white guys cant jump and other nonsense like that, not that they just dont wanna look racist. they actually buy into those stereotypes....
But there is also a flip side of incredible hype if a white player shows he can ball anywhere near an elite level......
:confusedshrug: its not any different from how alot black folks feel in many other arenas of life..
sh*t my mother used to warn me when I little that I would have to be at least twice as good as any white person at any thing I do. That way it would be stupid for them to choose anyone one but me for whatever job or endeavor I choose.....Sounds sorta like what Eminem was saying in that quote about the rap game..
Im sure black players make comments to white players from time to time, but that isnt racism... thats ignorance
(first google result I got)
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Dude is banging the "black people can't be racist, only white people are racist" drum indefinitely. But he all "read it in books" so it's alright. :roll:
The_Yearning
05-22-2013, 04:39 PM
When's the last time a black coach won anything in the NBA??
12: White
11: White
10: White
09: White
08: Black
07: White
06: White
05: White
04: White
03: White
02: White
01: White
00: White
99: White
The numbers prove it, if you wanna win your coach better be white.
Both Spo and Doc Rivers got white in them. That white power too strong.
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 05:00 PM
Rasheed1 six years ago:
(first google result I got)
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Dude is banging the "black people can't be racist, only white people are racist" drum indefinitely. But he all "read it in books" so it's alright. :roll:
Let me see if I got this straight.. You went back 6 years to find a comment where I say comments from a black player to a white one isnt racism? lol.
First of all.... you need to post a link to that comment...
second of all.. once again I never said "black people cannot be racist" That is you again arguing something I never said because you dont have any thing else to argue in this thread...
Third.... You laugh at me for reading and knowing what Im talking about, but you should try it yourself sometime.. You wouldnt need to go back 6 years to misinterpret a comment I made..
Racism is about superiority and racism is also about power.... Racism is when people cannot get hired due to their race... racism is when people cannot get housing or services or poor because they are neglected due to race
A black guy mocking a white because "white men cant jump" is stereotyping
There is no power relationship involved in that exchange... but you would already no that if you had bothered to read a book once in while..
black people can be racist.. Chris Paul's words carry alot of weight and he does have the power to potentially get a guy fired or hired. His words could be considered racist if he uses them to preach the superiority of blacks over whites.. He didnt do that though and that is the point of what I been saying..
:facepalm at you for going back 6 years and that was all you could find... You even amaze me with how pathetic you are :oldlol:
Let me see if I got this straight.. You went back 6 years to find a comment where I say comments from a black player to a white one isnt racism? lol.
First of all.... you need to post a link to that comment...
second of all.. once again I never said "black people cannot be racist" That is you again arguing something I never said because you dont have any thing else to argue in this thread...
Third.... You laugh at me for reading and knowing what Im talking about, but you should try it yourself sometime.. You wouldnt need to go back 6 years to misinterpret a comment I made..
Racism is about superiority and racism is also about power.... Racism is when people cannot get hired due to their race... racism is when people get housing or services or poor because they are neglected due to race
A black guy mocking a white because "white men cant jump" is stereotyping
There is no power relationship involved in that exchange... but you would already no that if you had bothered to read a book once in while..
black people can be racist.. Chris Paul's words carry alot of weight and he does have the power to potentially get a guy fired or hired. His words could be considered racist if he uses them to preach the superiority of blacks over whites.. He didnt do that though and that is the point of what I been saying..
:facepalm at you for going back 6 years and that was all you could find... You even amaze me with how pathetic you are :oldlol:
No dude, there were pages upon pages of results of you defending any racist thing done by a black person (which of course you actually believe to be impossible) and raining down fiery condemnation on any racist thing done by a white person.
I just picked the first result, took five seconds, and was done.
It's really funny how you say stuff like "because you dont have any thing else to argue in this thread..." when you have been making the exact same posts in these types of threads for 6+ years, regardless of the actual situation in the OP. Who brings more to the asctual thread? Someone who honestly assesses the content of the situation at hand objectively, or someone who writes the exact same shit every single time regardless of the reality of the situation? We can all predict what your are going to say man, why do you even write posts? You can just copy one from the endless archives of your previous black racism apologist writing.
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 05:17 PM
No dude, there were pages upon pages of results of you defending any racist thing done by a black person (which of course you actually believe to be impossible) and raining down fiery condemnation on any racist thing done by a white person.
I just picked the first result, took five seconds, and was done.
Im not your "dude" first of all
the first result you got was 6 years old but yet you claim there is tons of posts of me defending black racism?
you are a f*cking liar :oldlol:
post the actual link and lets see what else was said.
It's really funny how you say stuff like "because you dont have any thing else to argue in this thread..." when you have been making the exact same posts in these types of threads for 6+ years, regardless of the actual situation in the OP. Who brings more to the asctual thread? Someone who honestly assesses the content of the situation at hand objectively, or someone who writes the exact same shit every single time regardless of the reality of the situation? We can all predict what your are going to say man, why do you even write posts? You can just copy one from the endless archives of your previous black racism apologist writing.
what truly funny is that you came back hours later with a snippet from a comment I made 6 years ago and you STILL had to try argue something I never said...
Post the links or shut up..
Andrew Wiggins
05-22-2013, 05:20 PM
Im not your "dude" first of all
the first result you got was 6 years old but yet you claim there is tons of posts of me defending black racism?
you are a f*cking liar :oldlol:
post the actual link and lets see what else was said.
what truly funny is that you came back hours later with a snippet from a comment I made 6 years ago and you STILL had to try argue something I never said...
Post the links or shut up..
what sane person digs up comments on a message board from 6 years ago :biggums:
someone needs to go outside and make some friends, rofl
Rasheed1 six years ago:
(first google result I got)
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Dude is banging the "black people can't be racist, only white people are racist" drum indefinitely. But he all "read it in books" so it's alright. :roll:You completely misinterpreted what he was saying.
BrooklynZoo
05-22-2013, 06:22 PM
chris paul has been a fake tough guy since day 1. sometimes he acts like a fairy sometimes he acts like hes tough gtfo.
now he wants a black coach? ignorance
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 07:08 PM
If you watch even a few games of Chris Paul, you see what an enormous dick this guy really is to his teammates. And his flopping antics are pathetic.
This guy is such an enormous douche bag that nothing would surprise me if i read it about him. I've never seen a worse teammate in the NBA than Paul.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 07:22 PM
There's a difference between rooting for someone of a certain race and hiring someone because of their race.
European isn't a race.
doubt this is true though. Met CP3 and he's a real standup guy
You are right, but actually it is often falsely classed as a race. Like they class "African" as a race. It really should not be, but they do class it that way.
As in "white European race", or "black African race". It should not be, but they do it a lot. Same way many use "Latino" and "Hispanic" for a race, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with race.
If you want to educate yourself, just find out the ethnicity of the people that own the publishing companies. That's where so much of this racist bullshit profiling comes from.
There is no end to the racist nonsense of this stuff like "Latino" and "Hispanic" when it has nothing to do with race, yet there it is being always classed as a race.
You are right, but actually it is often falsely classed as a race. Like they class "African" as a race. It really should not be, but they do class it that way.
As in "white European race", or "black African race". It should not be, but they do it a lot. Same way many use "Latino" and "Hispanic" for a race, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with race.
If you want to educate yourself, just find out the ethnicity of the people that own the publishing companies. That's where so much of this racist bullshit profiling comes from.
There is no end to the racist nonsense of this stuff like "Latino" and "Hispanic" when it has nothing to do with race, yet there it is being always classed as a race.Shouldn't you be watching the Greek race play basketball or something?
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 07:40 PM
Shouldn't you be watching the Greek race play basketball or something?
STFU you racist scumbag.
STFU you racist scumbag.Shouldn't you be watching the Greek race playing basketball or something?
Crystallas
05-22-2013, 08:36 PM
Really? Splitting hairs to that degree is just absurd.. but whatever..
:facepalm seeing you split hairs to a ridiculous degree in one sentence and then the very next, you hit me with the fantasy Libertarian talk.. Only on ISH..
If you live in reality and look at the world around you? It is built on collectives and groups, not the fantasy ideological talk libertarians spout..
That stuff sounds nice in pure theory, but it crashes & burns quickly when it meets reality... It would be nice if libertarians actually had a realistic way to achieve this individualistic utopia they always talk about..
But in reality, you live in the same world as everyone else, as evidenced by your need to nick pick the difference between "Black" and "African American"
You don't think there is a difference between black and African-American? :lol
And nice, irrelevant, rant about who-knows-what. This is another characterization of a person who puts people into groups. Do you think viewing people in collectives is exclusive to some ideological view? Then you would be greatly wrong.
comerb
05-22-2013, 08:52 PM
If that's true he should get crucified by the media for it. He won't, but he should.
dude77
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
imagine if a white player said he wanted white teammates lol ..
certain black people(like this rasheed character) don't want equality .. they want special treatment and immunity from saying stupid shit like what cp said(if he said it)
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 09:28 PM
You don't think there is a difference between black and African-American? :lol
Im black.. I dont think it... I know it..
when I go to Jamaica? the jamaicans tell me "we all black".... Haitians, dominicans? same thing..
You can nick pick the idea of a traditional black person who was raised here and has ancestors who were slaves here (as opposed to the carribean).. Im different than a person raised like Barack Obama who had white parents and he obviously wasnt taught about Emmett Till or somebody like that as kid... But overall for this conversation, it is nick picking.. We know who the black/african american coaches are...
And nice, irrelevant, rant about who-knows-what. This is another characterization of a person who puts people into groups. Do you think viewing people in collectives is exclusive to some ideological view? Then you would be greatly wrong.
What libertarians fail to understand is that collectives gain power by grouping together for a common cause.... Collectives bring power and equality to the individual when they team up and work together..
it is simply the way it is... You believe that individualistic fantasy all you like but that isnt how the world works.. it has never worked that way, and probably wont ever work that way in the future.
I happen to like some libertarian ideas, but some are just fantasy..
I would be more than happy to continue this convo in the OTL where it would be more appropriate..
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
imagine if a white player said he wanted white teammates lol ..
certain black people(like this rasheed character) don't want equality .. they want special treatment and immunity from saying stupid shit like what cp said(if he said it)
you're an idiot :oldlol: ... Immunity? what does he need immunity for? what is he subject to prosecution for his comments? Bunch of idiots on here using words that they dont even comprehend...
immunity..lol..
another clown..
Rasheed1
05-22-2013, 09:36 PM
And I see that bum ass LJJ never responded with links... I saw the thread tho.. It was actually me defending Steve Nash over some comments he supposedly made about reverse racism...
leave it to LJJ to lie and purposely make up false arguments to fight against.. guy is pathetic.. he's prolly still googling for something else.. knucklehead
demons2005
05-22-2013, 10:13 PM
anyone who has ever watched CP already knew he was a racist flopper
bagelred
06-22-2013, 10:46 AM
Free-agent star Chris Paul pushed the Clippers to hire Rivers as coach, but will have to settle for Lionel Hollins, Brian Shaw or Byron Scott if he plans to re-sign with Los Angeles in July. Paul is unhappy with the fallout over the failed deal, sources told Yahoo! Sports on Friday night.
So if not Doc Rivers, they'll get Hollins, Shaw, or Scott.....hmmmmm....what do all these guys have in common? Let me think for a sec...............:eek:
Can you imagine if Kevin Love said he'd stay with the TWolves, but only if hire a white coach. :oldlol: wooooooo weeeeee, the media would have a field day with that.
Media is always protecting the black man.....par for the course.
tomtucker
06-22-2013, 11:01 AM
So if not Doc Rivers, they'll get Hollins, Shaw, or Scott.....hmmmmm....what do all these guys have in common? Let me think for a sec...............:eek:
Can you imagine if Kevin Love said he'd stay with the TWolves, but only if hire a white coach. :oldlol: wooooooo weeeeee, the media would have a field day with that.
Media is always protecting the black man.....par for the course.
yeah, fukk carlton
Akrazotile
04-26-2014, 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=3LiftHeatCurse]Chris Paul
Akrazotile
04-26-2014, 11:56 AM
Let's keep this at the top, yall!
JohnMax
04-26-2014, 12:06 PM
Thank God Paul is a racist because Doc Rivers helped develop Griffin, Jordan and brought Redick to the team.
yobore
04-26-2014, 12:07 PM
He was just trolling Sterling. After all his favorite coach was a white guy (Skip Prosser)
mr.big35
04-26-2014, 12:12 PM
why are you so racist akrazotile
Akrazotile
04-26-2014, 12:47 PM
why are you so racist akrazotile
Why is Chris Paul so racist?
Brokenbeat
04-26-2014, 12:54 PM
Bump
:oldlol: :cheers:
Shit's about to hit the fan in Clipperland.
Akrazotile
04-26-2014, 01:21 PM
:oldlol: :cheers:
Shit's about to hit the fan in Clipperland.
Why, bc Chris Paul only wants african americans to be coaches for the team hes on?
Akrazotile
04-26-2014, 02:24 PM
Guys. Come on.
Discuss.
nathanjizzle
04-26-2014, 02:33 PM
Sam Mitchell is the new Clippers coach.
unbann my ninja tikay0 :cry:
Akrazotile
04-26-2014, 09:01 PM
I guess nobody cares because Paul is black.
Akrazotile
04-28-2014, 03:13 PM
chris paul and larry johnson, sittin in a blacks-only tree....
LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 03:15 PM
Let me guess, Akrazotile is a middle-aged to older white male, no?
Akrazotile
04-28-2014, 03:17 PM
Let me guess, Akrazotile is a middle-aged to older white male, no?
aint even 30 yet bruh
LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 03:18 PM
aint even 30 yet bruh
Would've fooled me.
Akrazotile
04-28-2014, 03:20 PM
Would've fooled me.
Because I think bigotry from blacks should receive equal scorn to bigotry from white?
Okaayyyy..... :rolleyes:
LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 03:23 PM
Because I think bigotry from blacks should receive equal scorn to bigotry from white?
Okaayyyy..... :rolleyes:
Because your posts over the last few days reek of an older, privileged white male.
Akrazotile
04-28-2014, 03:25 PM
Because your posts over the last few days reek of an older, privileged white male.
Because they're intelligent?
LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 03:26 PM
Because they're intelligent?
You can tell yourself that.
Heavincent
04-28-2014, 03:28 PM
If the reports about Paul are true, then he's not much better than Sterling tbh.
Soultrane
04-28-2014, 03:58 PM
This is such a shit source. Why did anyone ever thought this is credible information?
Pointguard
04-28-2014, 04:07 PM
Chris Paul disliked the man on top and wanted someone inbetween him and the owner that could be sympathetic to what it was like to work under him or help keep a buffer between them. I guarantee you the author of that article dropped the story when he heard or learned why. In fact you guys can write him and ask the author why he dropped the story and granted you more ignorance to work with. Given what we know I don't even see why you guys amazingly can't connect the dots. I can see if you are socially ignorant but its other level stuff to be totally unaware of dynamics. What reprieve you think Chris Paul had? He never said anything like this before?
And you guys think you are balanced and I could never imagine going to a lot of you, addressing a racial problem. Going to a standup guy like Doc Rivers is like a dream come true vs. "I think I figured it out" guys like many of you.
If Chris Paul complains, internet board geniuses will call him a whiner. If he says there aren't enough sympathetic owners to help out the geniuses will say he's racist? If he gets a buffer for the situation, guess what? The board geniuses are still stuck in the mud and no smarter than they were at first.
Pointguard
04-28-2014, 04:10 PM
This is such a shit source. Why did anyone ever thought this is credible information?
Twisted agendas only want confirmation of their backwardness.
Demitri98
04-28-2014, 04:13 PM
But..but..it's only racist when it's white people doing the discriminating! :rant
Rasheed1
04-28-2014, 04:32 PM
Let me guess, Akrazotile is a middle-aged to older white male, no?
correct.. He's a lying mofo.. He been saying he's 'about to be 30' for about 3 years now :lol
Kakapopo
04-28-2014, 04:36 PM
Why would anyone want a black coach? Tell me, how many black coaches won championships compared to white coaches?
Akrazotile
04-28-2014, 06:28 PM
:rant
Uncle Drew
04-28-2014, 07:50 PM
Because they're intelligent?
:oldlol:
You're my favorite troll.
:oldlol:
You're my favorite troll.Well he's banned now, hope you enjoyed the show... :lol
Well he's banned now, hope you enjoyed the show... :lol
Why did you ban me
qrich
04-28-2014, 09:26 PM
Chris Paul disliked the man on top and wanted someone inbetween him and the owner that could be sympathetic to what it was like to work under him or help keep a buffer between them. I guarantee you the author of that article dropped the story when he heard or learned why. In fact you guys can write him and ask the author why he dropped the story and granted you more ignorance to work with. Given what we know I don't even see why you guys amazingly can't connect the dots. I can see if you are socially ignorant but its other level stuff to be totally unaware of dynamics. What reprieve you think Chris Paul had? He never said anything like this before?
And you guys think you are balanced and I could never imagine going to a lot of you, addressing a racial problem. Going to a standup guy like Doc Rivers is like a dream come true vs. "I think I figured it out" guys like many of you.
If Chris Paul complains, internet board geniuses will call him a whiner. If he says there aren't enough sympathetic owners to help out the geniuses will say he's racist? If he gets a buffer for the situation, guess what? The board geniuses are still stuck in the mud and no smarter than they were at first.
This dude is easily one of the worst posters on this board.
Pointguard
04-29-2014, 12:03 AM
This dude is easily one of the worst posters on this board.
Wow, I see your debating skills have improved. Vocabulary enhancement as well. One day you will be able to speak back to me... coherently, not like last time.
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