View Full Version : Bulls' draftee Nikola Mirotic wins MVP of the Spanish League
Grinder
05-22-2013, 09:49 AM
Previous winners of the award include Arvydas Sabonis, Juan Carlos Navarro, Luis Scola, Tiago Splitter, and Marc Gasol. He's the youngest ever winner of the award.
http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/ActualidadBaloncesto1213_en/1193040487639/1330148928569/noticia/Noticia/Nikola_Mirotic,_Liga_Endesa_MVP_for_2012-13_regular_season.htm
It might be a while before he comes over but he's a great asset for the Bulls.
chips93
05-22-2013, 09:58 AM
hes the big skilled jumpshooting forward right?
NauruDude
05-22-2013, 10:00 AM
Would you trade his draft rights for David West?
Grinder
05-22-2013, 10:02 AM
hes the big skilled jumpshooting forward right?
Yeah. He's also a decent rebounder.
Would you trade his draft rights for David West?
Absolutely not. Mirotic won't be over for 3-4 years in all likelihood. West has a a few more years of productivity that can help a playoff team out in that time span.
prodnus
05-22-2013, 10:03 AM
Amnesty Boozer and bring Mirotic over :rockon:
Lebowsky
05-22-2013, 10:20 AM
Amnesty Boozer and bring Mirotic over :rockon:
He's not ready yet (contract issues aside). He needs to improve his rebounding and toughen up quite a lot in order to be a solid contributor in the NBA. Still, the kid is really good offensively. Really good.
nathanjizzle
05-22-2013, 10:26 AM
2 youngest mvps on teh same team? 2 time defensive champion butler? 6 champoinships ezz
Jon_Koncak
05-22-2013, 10:34 AM
He's soft,a hole in defence and hasnt improved much last two years.A pf version of Bargnani.
nathanjizzle
05-22-2013, 10:34 AM
btw, bulls should buyout the rest of his contract and have him for next season :bowdown:
nathanjizzle
05-22-2013, 10:40 AM
He's soft,a hole in defence and hasnt improved much last two years.A pf version of Bargnani.
i think your projecting your impressions of tall skinny lanky white players. ahem gasol.
ReturnofJPR
05-22-2013, 10:42 AM
Yeah. He's also a decent rebounder.
Absolutely not. Mirotic won't be over for 3-4 years in all likelihood. West has a a few more years of productivity that can help a playoff team out in that time span.
He will be here in two years minimum
1rkrage
05-22-2013, 11:00 AM
amazing how they came away with Mirotic & Jimmy Butler from that draft with those picks
1rkrage
05-22-2013, 11:00 AM
He's soft,a hole in defence and hasnt improved much last two years.A pf version of Bargnani.
Boozer also doesn't play defense. so no drop off there
Jon_Koncak
05-22-2013, 11:02 AM
Boozer is built like a tank though.You'be shocked how much he avoids physical contact.He'll be a stretch four in NBA.Ryan Anderson at best,nothing more.
ReturnofJPR
05-22-2013, 11:03 AM
2014:
PG: Rose
SG: Butler
SF: Deng
PF: Mirotic
C: Noah
Championship!
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagobulls&id=13165&tag=nikola-mirotic
The ESPN article says that he draws comparisons to Dirk.
Jon_Koncak
05-22-2013, 11:10 AM
Whoever compared him to Dirk is idiot,simple as.Seems like every european with decent j is the new Dirk nowadays.Ridiculous,Dirk can create his own shot at will,Mirotic cant.
ReturnofJPR
05-22-2013, 11:12 AM
Whoever compared him to Dirk is idiot,simple as.Seems like every european with decent j is the new Dirk nowadays.Ridiculous,Dirk can create his own shot at will,Mirotic cant.
That's taking the easy way out. Why don't you read the ESPN article again...
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagobulls&id=13165&tag=nikola-mirotic
ReturnofJPR
05-22-2013, 11:17 AM
Don't forget, the Bulls have Charlotte's draft pick next season too. :rockon:
kshutts1
05-22-2013, 11:39 AM
2014:
PG: Rose
SG: Butler
SF: Deng
PF: Mirotic
C: Noah
Championship!
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagobulls&id=13165&tag=nikola-mirotic
The ESPN article says that he draws comparisons to Dirk.
Sites like that always.... embellish.... the abilities/ceiling/comparisons. Don't let that get you overly excited. Dirk is the comparison for ANY jump shooting Euro, regardless of skills/abilities.
DwadeOverLebron
05-22-2013, 11:43 AM
That's taking the easy way out. Why don't you read the ESPN article again...
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagobulls&id=13165&tag=nikola-mirotic
Espn sells stories, and you my friend bought it very well. Next yrs Charlotte pick is top ten protected and the yr after that is top 6 I believe. We won't see that pick until probably mirotic comes over. There's a fine line between optimism and foolishness.
ReturnofJPR
05-22-2013, 12:07 PM
To the two previous posters, it's clear that you didn't read the entire article. That's because Zach Randolph says when he watched him play, and his pure shot made him think he was the next Dirk.
Either way, quit hating. You can not deny that he's the only player, in History, to win the rising star award more than once, Chicago Bull Mirotic won it 3 times. Previous winners include Dirk & Toni Kukoc.
He is also the youngest MVP ever.
You can't spin this one negatively.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 05:37 PM
He's soft,a hole in defence and hasnt improved much last two years.A pf version of Bargnani.
Grinder has been telling everyone here for months that he's by far the best power forward in Europe.
Of course, anyone pointing out that is absurd has been labeled a troll by Grinder and also Bulls fans.
This guy is almost as over hyped as Rubio was. The only difference is that Mirotic is at least a competent Euroleague level player.
But yeah, he's really skilled for his size, but he appears to have the mentally soft gene in bucket loads.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 05:39 PM
To the two previous posters, it's clear that you didn't read the entire article. That's because Zach Randolph says when he watched him play, and his pure shot made him think he was the next Dirk.
Either way, quit hating. You can not deny that he's the only player, in History, to win the rising star award more than once, Chicago Bull Mirotic won it 3 times. Previous winners include Dirk & Toni Kukoc.
He is also the youngest MVP ever.
You can't spin this one negatively.
You are totally full of shit and just straight out lying on everything in bold.
Also, ACB MVP award is a joke in recent years. Andy Panko was ACB MVP last season, and he was barely more than a scrub with Panathinaikos. ACB MVP is a terribly meaningless award lately because the voting criteria is insanely screwed up. That's an absolute joke award with zero legitimacy over the recent years.
tikay0
05-22-2013, 05:47 PM
:rockon:
LBJ needs to go to the Bulls. Seriously.
tikay0
05-22-2013, 06:02 PM
LBJ needs to go to the Bulls. Seriously.
I'd have mixed emotions winning a chip with Lebron. It wouldn't feel right, but I'd ultimately accept it.
outbreak
05-22-2013, 06:10 PM
Of course euroleague comes in to knock any player comming to the NBA and make them look crap in euroleague.
I've seen clips on this guy and even if he doesn't become a star in the league he's going to make some noise and be solid. Next dirk? Wouldn't go that far but he will be a good player.
2014 is the earliest he would come over. He'd still have to be on his rookie scale contract if he came over before that. Which wouldn't happen since he makes more over there now and he has like a 3 million buyout.
I'm stoked for him to come over though. It's known that he's Boozs replacement.
Of course euroleague comes in to knock any player comming to the NBA and make them look crap in euroleague.
It's the typical schtick with him :oldlol: He praises Euroleague players but immediately knocks them as soon as they have any NBA aspirations. Kind of like a jealous/psycho ex-gf :oldlol:
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:22 PM
Of course euroleague comes in to knock any player comming to the NBA and make them look crap in euroleague.
I've seen clips on this guy and even if he doesn't become a star in the league he's going to make some noise and be solid. Next dirk? Wouldn't go that far but he will be a good player.
Mirotic is super overrated by US media. He's a good player and very skilled for his size, but the US media reports on his level are absolutely ridiculous.
You are a ****ing moron if you think anything different than that and everyone who actually follows Euroleague and it is not biased will tell you the same thing.
Mirotic is a big body with skills, but he has pretty much zero intangibles of any kind and he always seems to be soft and totally non competitive. The Dirk comparison is correct, as in Dirk with no heart.
97 bulls
05-22-2013, 06:23 PM
Im excited based on the vids ive seen perhaps the Bulls can parlay Mirotic, Deng, and the Bobcats pick for Love.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:24 PM
It's the typical schtick with him :oldlol: He praises Euroleague players but immediately knocks them as soon as they have any NBA aspirations. Kind of like a jealous/psycho ex-gf :oldlol:
STFU asshole. Any unbiased Euroleague fan here will agree that Mirotic is ridiculously overrated in the US.
Stop being a douche bag.
I never said Mirotic was not good. He's a very good player. But he's extremely overrated in the US.
You are a ****ing scumbag for making such absurd claims against me for simply stating the truth about Mirotic. So go to hell.
outbreak
05-22-2013, 06:25 PM
Mirotic is super overrated by US media. He's a good player and very skilled for his size, but the US media reports on his level are absolutely ridiculous.
You are a ****ing moron if you think anything different than that and everyone who actually follows Euroleague and it not biased will tell you the same thing.
Mirotic is a big body with skills, but he has pretty much zero intangibles of any kind and he always seems to be soft and totally non competitive. The Dirk comparison is correct, as in Dirk with no heart.
I agree he isn't dirk, but he's hardly being over rated. I barely see anyone mention or talk about him? Most people seem to have forgotten they even have his rights. Your probably also the most biased person on this forum and probably in the top 10 biggest "****ing moron" list for this forum too. Yeah you know euroleague and are insightful at times but you really need to stop taking things personally when someone overrates/disses a euro league player. Correct them and move on my friend.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:26 PM
Im excited based on the vids ive seen perhaps the Bulls can parlay Mirotic, Deng, and the Bobcats pick for Love.
Are you on drugs? Deng, Mirotic, and a high pick is worth way more than Love. Evidently Bulls fans are the biggest morons of any fan base in this forum.
97 bulls
05-22-2013, 06:27 PM
STFU asshole. Any unbiased Euroleague fan here will agree that Mirotic is ridiculously overrated in the US.
Stop being a douche bag.
I never said Mirotic was not good. He's a very good player. But he's extremely overrated in the US.
You are a ****ing scumbag for making such absurd claims against me for simply stating the truth about Mirotic. So go to hell.
Hey Euroleague. Should Toni Kukoc be in the basketball Hall of Fame?
97 bulls
05-22-2013, 06:30 PM
Are you on drugs? Deng, Mirotic, and a high pick is worth way more than Love. Evidently Bulls fans are the biggest morons of any fan base in this forum.
Well considering the pick is top 10 protected until I believe 2016, and Mirotic while looking vey good in highlight vids, has never played a minute of NBA ball, along with Deng, id say thats more than fair based on the unknown. A Love and Noah Combo would be amazing in Chicago.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:35 PM
I agree he isn't dirk, but he's hardly being over rated. I barely see anyone mention or talk about him? Most people seem to have forgotten they even have his rights. Your probably also the most biased person on this forum and probably in the top 10 biggest "****ing moron" list for this forum too. Yeah you know euroleague and are insightful at times but you really need to stop taking things personally when someone overrates/disses a euro league player. Correct them and move on my friend.
He's HUGELY overrated in the USA. NBA gm survey named him best player in Europe. He's not even close - not even remotely by a country mile the best player on Real Madrid, yet NBA gms named him best player in Europe.
You can't barely see a US media article on him that does not imply he isn't either the best player in Europe or the best power forward in Europe. Neither of which are even close to being true.
So yes, he's almost as overrated and overhyped as Rubio was in the USA for a player coming out of Europe. But like I said, he's better than Rubio in Europe.
You don't seem to be able to grasp the English language. Just because you are overrated does not mean you are a bad player. Mirotic is a very good player.
But, he is also hugely overrated, because a very good player is being called constantly things he is not - "best player in Europe", "best power forward in Europe", etc.
I mean saying he is better than Khryapa, the actual best power forward in Europe is just nuts. Khryapa is a far better player than Mirotic. And saying Mirotic is best player in Europe is absolutely insane.
It would literally be the equivalent of someone claiming David West was the best player in the NBA. So yeah if someone claims West is best player in NBA then he is super overrated. Still a good player, but super overrated.
If you can't grasp this concept, then you have no reasoning, no logic, and no deduction abilities.
I am sure Mirotic can do just fine in the NBA. I have no doubt he can. But the fact is that he is SUPER OVERRATED in USA.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:36 PM
Hey Euroleague. Should Toni Kukoc be in the basketball Hall of Fame?
Yes.
ZenMaster
05-22-2013, 06:37 PM
STFU asshole. Any unbiased Euroleague fan here will agree that Mirotic is ridiculously overrated in the US.
Stop being a douche bag.
I never said Mirotic was not good. He's a very good player. But he's extremely overrated in the US.
You are a ****ing scumbag for making such absurd claims against me for simply stating the truth about Mirotic. So go to hell.
Ridiculousely overrated? They hardly know who he is.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:37 PM
Well considering the pick is top 10 protected until I believe 2016, and Mirotic while looking vey good in highlight vids, has never played a minute of NBA ball, along with Deng, id say thats more than fair based on the unknown. A Love and Noah Combo would be amazing in Chicago.
Deng and Mirotic alone is much better than Love.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:40 PM
Ridiculousely overrated? They hardly know who he is.
NBA general manager survey listed him as best player in Europe. So yeah, it is a fact that he's ridiculously overrated in USA, much like Rubio was.
You can Google the NBA gm survey results if you don't believe me. It was even published at the nba.com website.
If you are going to claim Mirotic is the best player in Europe, then you are trolling.
Grinder
05-22-2013, 06:43 PM
NBA general manager survey listed him as best player in Europe. So yeah, it is a fact that he's ridiculously overrated in USA, much like Rubio was.
You can Google the NBA gm survey results if you don't believe me. It was even published at the nba.com website.
If you are going to claim Mirotic is the best player in Europe, then you are trolling.
Euroleague is full of shit, lying out of his ass as usual.
Who is the best international player NOT in the NBA?
1. Juan Carlos Navarro -- 34.6%
http://www.nba.com/news/2012-13-gm-survey/index.html?rss=true
Psychopathic, pathological liar. :roll:
Ridiculousely overrated? They hardly know who he is.
You're right. Outside of Bulls' fans, maybe 1/100 NBA fans have heard of him and even fewer have seen enough of him to rate him.
ZenMaster
05-22-2013, 06:46 PM
NBA general manager survey listed him as best player in Europe. So yeah, it is a fact that he's ridiculously overrated in USA, much like Rubio was.
You can Google the NBA gm survey results if you don't believe me. It was even published at the nba.com website.
If you are going to claim Mirotic is the best player in Europe, then you are trolling.
You're full of shit, La bomba got three times as many votes as Mirotic.
Who is the best international player NOT in the NBA?
1. Juan Carlos Navarro -- 34.6%
2. Nikola Mirotic -- 11.5%
3. Dimitris Diamantidis, Rudy Fernandez, Bo McCalebb, Dario Saric -- 7.7%
Also receiving votes: Nenad Krstic, Milan Macvan, Vassilis Spanoulis, Milos Teodosic, Ante Tomic, Fran Vazquez
Go ahead and google the survey if you like.
I'm not going to discuss opinions with you, you're a psycopath.
outbreak
05-22-2013, 06:48 PM
And I'm sure if you ask an NBA exec who the best player is outside of the NBA they will be primarily rating them as a prospect for their team rather than who's playing the best right now. that's how they think
ZenMaster
05-22-2013, 06:50 PM
Euroleague is full of shit, lying out of his ass as usual.
http://www.nba.com/news/2012-13-gm-survey/index.html?rss=true
Psychopathic, pathological liar. :roll:
You're right. Outside of Bulls' fans, maybe 1/100 NBA fans have heard of him and even fewer have seen enough of him to rate him.
Yeah league really went off the plank on this one...Mirotic hyped like Rubio..GM survey blah blah, it never ends with the made up bs.
KG215
05-22-2013, 06:52 PM
Are you on drugs? Deng, Mirotic, and a high pick is worth way more than Love. Evidently Bulls fans are the biggest morons of any fan base in this forum.
So we can make assertions of an entire fanbase based on one fan now? If so, then Euroleague fans are the biggest morons in the entire world.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:53 PM
You're full of shit, La bomba got three times as many votes as Mirotic.
Go ahead and google the survey if you like.
I'm not going to discuss opinions with you, you're a psycopath.
You are a ****ing lunatic. Best international NBA player you ****ing idiot. They don't consider Navarro an NBA player genius. And anyone that thinks he is second best is just as crazy as anyone thinking he is the best.
Bottom line every NBA gm that named him in that survey is psychotic.
So he is overrated by fact.
And you are some kind of nutcase if you can't see that. I challenge you to find a single serious Euroleague fan that will agree with that survey. Newsflash, you won't find one.
I am putting you on ignore. Grinder is just a gigantic troll, but you really have no excuse.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:53 PM
Euroleague is full of shit, lying out of his ass as usual.
http://www.nba.com/news/2012-13-gm-survey/index.html?rss=true
Psychopathic, pathological liar. :roll:
You're right. Outside of Bulls' fans, maybe 1/100 NBA fans have heard of him and even fewer have seen enough of him to rate him.
Take your meds.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:54 PM
And I'm sure if you ask an NBA exec who the best player is outside of the NBA they will be primarily rating them as a prospect for their team rather than who's playing the best right now. that's how they think
So they are not nuts they are just retarded and incompetent? Right............
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:55 PM
Yeah league really went off the plank on this one...Mirotic hyped like Rubio..GM survey blah blah, it never ends with the made up bs.
Back to my ignore list you racist POS.
KG215
05-22-2013, 06:56 PM
Take your meds.
Once again you were caught in a lie while trying to prove a point, and instead of manning up and admitting you were wrong like a man, you resort to childish acts. Grow the f**k up.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:57 PM
So we can make assertions of an entire fanbase based on one fan now? If so, then Euroleague fans are the biggest morons in the entire world.
All Wolves fans are retarded and racist. Based on your posts.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 06:59 PM
Once again, you were caught in a lie while trying to prove a point and, instead of manning up and admitting you were wrong like a man, you resort to childish acts. Grow the f**k up.
What the hell is wrong with you? Best international player is not what I was talking about dumb ass. Although it's even more insane to say he is 2nd best international player than best player in Europe (referring to NBA ones)......
Actually that claim is even MORE INSANE and ludicrous to call him 2nd best "international player".
You are absolutely THE dumbest person in this forum. You prove it over and over.
ZenMaster
05-22-2013, 06:59 PM
Back to my ignore list you racist POS.
:oldlol:
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 07:00 PM
:oldlol:
You are a racist. You made so many racist comments here. Don't think I forgot that. I have in my memory all the racist members of this site.
KG215
05-22-2013, 07:02 PM
I have in my memory all the racist members of this site.
This oughta be good. List them.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 07:06 PM
All of you lunatics can burn in hell. I'm done with this thread. You people are psychotic.
KG215
05-22-2013, 07:07 PM
All of you lunatics can burn in hell. I'm done with this thread. You people are psychotic.
Just do everyone a favor and be done with this forum. Keep all your psychotic, rambling, immature bullshit in the International section or go to a message board where you might actually be liked.
ZenMaster
05-22-2013, 07:09 PM
You are a racist. You made so many racist comments here. Don't think I forgot that. I have in my memory all the racist members of this site.
Yeah sure, I said that many people of west african decent has a lot of fast twitch muscle fibers, while you said that african americans are more athletic because they eat american chicken filled with hgh lol... and I'M the racist..you're pathetic.
Take kg's advice and leave the forum, you don't like anybody here and nobody likes you, it's a win win.
LEFT4DEAD
05-22-2013, 07:14 PM
Yeah sure, I said that many people of west african decent has a lot of fast twitch muscle fibers, while you said that african americans are more athletic because they eat american chicken filled with hgh lol... and I'M the racist..you're pathetic.
Take kg's advice and leave the forum, you don't like anybody here and nobody likes you, it's a win win.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
outbreak
05-22-2013, 07:22 PM
Yeah sure, I said that many people of west african decent has a lot of fast twitch muscle fibers, while you said that african americans are more athletic because they eat american chicken filled with hgh lol... and I'M the racist..you're pathetic.
Take kg's advice and leave the forum, you don't like anybody here and nobody likes you, it's a win win.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
ReturnofJPR
05-22-2013, 07:27 PM
Euro league got his period today, give him chocolate & stay out of his way :lol
Grinder
05-22-2013, 09:11 PM
Once again you were caught in a lie while trying to prove a point, and instead of manning up and admitting you were wrong like a man, you resort to childish acts. Grow the f**k up.
It's weird, at first you think he's just trolling and then you realize that he's actually insane after finding out that he spams this same shit all over the internet on every basketball message board out there for years now.
Yeah league really went off the plank on this one...Mirotic hyped like Rubio..GM survey blah blah, it never ends with the made up bs.
He's clearly not right in the head. He exhibits every symptom of Histrionic personality disorder. :oldlol:
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 09:17 PM
And the official tally shows that the fans voted Mirotic the MVP through online fan voting. The coaches and players voted Justin Dolleman as the MVP and Nacho Martin was second.
So the coaches and players voted Justin Dolleman and Nacho Martin first and second.
Mirotic just won the award due to fans stuffing the online voting.
Once again, this ACB MVP award has not been legit for a long time. So the coaches of the Spanish League didn't even think he was as good as Spanish League bigs Justin Dolleman and Nacho Martin.
Yes, clearly, "the best player in Europe".
:roll: :lol :oldlol: :facepalm :rolleyes: :facepalm :rolleyes: :facepalm
You people are truly certifiable. And you are freaking retarded to trust anything this psychotic pathological lying mega troll Grinder posts.
Andrew Wiggins
05-22-2013, 09:43 PM
And the official tally shows that the fans voted Mirotic the MVP through online fan voting. The coaches and media voted Justin Dolleman as the MVP and Nacho Martin was second.
So the coaches and media voted Justin Dolleman and Nacho Martin first and second.
Mirotic just won the award due to fans stuffing the online voting.
this is incorrect. here are the results of the voting. if you only count press + coaches votes - mirotic had 40, doellman had 35, and martin had 20 so mirotic would have the most important votes
http://www.lasprovincias.es/noticias/201305/22/Media/votacion-acb.jpg
chips93
05-22-2013, 09:53 PM
its kinda bizarre to me that anybody would respond to euroleague.
its even weirder that its the same people, everytime. like you guys realise that if you just ignore him he will go away?
but instead you complain about him, but at the same time showering him with attention, ensuring that he will stay.
you guys ought to be smarter than this
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
this is incorrect. here are the results of the voting. if you only count press + coaches votes - mirotic had 40, doellman had 35, and martin had 20 so mirotic would have the most important votes
http://www.lasprovincias.es/noticias/201305/22/Media/votacion-acb.jpg
You just confirmed what I said.................
You do realize that just confirmed that Mirotic won the fan vote.
Are you saying the online fan vote is more important than player and coach voting?
Lebowsky
05-22-2013, 10:05 PM
And the official tally shows that the fans voted Mirotic the MVP through online fan voting. The coaches and media voted Justin Dolleman as the MVP and Nacho Martin was second.
So the coaches and media voted Justin Dolleman and Nacho Martin first and second.
Mirotic just won the award due to fans stuffing the online voting.
Once again, this ACB MVP award has not been legit for a long time. So the coaches of the Spanish League didn't even think he was as good as Spanish League bigs Justin Dolleman and Nacho Martin.
Yes, clearly, "the best player in Europe".
:roll: :lol :oldlol: :facepalm :rolleyes: :facepalm :rolleyes: :facepalm
You people are truly certifiable. And you are freaking retarded to trust anything this psychotic pathological lying mega troll Grinder posts.
Nacho freaking Martin voted over him by the coaches...............
Just for the record, the media voted for Mirotic as well. The players voted for Nacho Martin and the coaches for Doellman.
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=94320
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 10:10 PM
its kinda bizarre to me that anybody would respond to euroleague.
its even weirder that its the same people, everytime. like you guys realise that if you just ignore him he will go away?
but instead you complain about him, but at the same time showering him with attention, ensuring that he will stay.
you guys ought to be smarter than this
If you have not realized that those trolls added together don't have a collective IQ over 100, then there is something wrong with you.
Guys like KG215 are absolutely mentally retarded.
Quizno
05-22-2013, 10:10 PM
You just confirmed what I said.................
You do realize that just confirmed that Mirotic won the fan vote.
Are you saying the online fan vote is more important than player and coach voting?
no you idiot lmao. he's saying if you take AWAY the online fan vote (first column - Aficion) and only count the coaches and press vote, mirotic still won.
mirotic would have 40. that dolleman guy would have 35.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 10:12 PM
Just for the record, the media voted for Mirotic as well. The players voted for Nacho Martin and the coaches for Doellman.
http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=94320
That's what I meant. I just said media, when I meant players. That was my point. Online fan voting and media is being taken here over the players and coaches. I think it's pretty clear that award is a joke and has been for quite awhile.
Andy Panko won the Spanish League MVP last year and he was a total scrub this year on Panathinaikos and Malaga in Euroleague.
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 10:15 PM
no you idiot lmao. he's saying if you take AWAY the online fan vote (first column - Aficion) and only count the coaches and press vote, mirotic still won.
mirotic would have 40. that dolleman guy would have 35.
No idiot. Read it. Players and coaches did NOT vote for Mirotic. That obviously is who knows the best players better.
Just like I said, Martin and Dolleman got voted over him by people that would know better. So did Ante Tomic. So he actually tied for fourth place with Sergio Rodriguez in the coach and player vote.
Fans voting online don't know shit and neither does the media in that for this award they don't set any criteria for the media to vote.
Of course Grinder is a dumb ass troll so he did not realize this thread would blow up back on him. The idiot could not grasp that some people here can read Spanish.
How many voted for Mirotic from the players? ZERO.
kNicKz
05-22-2013, 10:20 PM
A 35 year old division 3 basketball player got the Spanish League MVP last year :roll:
Pretty tough league
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 10:21 PM
Take away the press and online fan vote and just count the players and coaches votes...............
1. Justin Dolleman - 40
2. Nacho Martin - 30
3. Ante Tomic - 20
4. (tie) Nikola Mirotic - 15
4. (tie) Sergio Rodriguez - 15
Euroleague
05-22-2013, 10:23 PM
A 35 year old division 3 basketball player got the Spanish League MVP last year :roll:
Pretty tough league
Grinder will be telling us any second here how he's one of the best players in Europe, even though PAO cut his ass early in the Euroleague season this year.
But of course he must be one of the best players in Europe if he won ACB MVP award......................:rolleyes:
The ACB Ideal Team (best five of the league) was:
PG Sergio Rodriguez
SG Rudy Fernandez
SF Andres Nocioni
PF Nikola Mirotic
C Ante Tomic
Seriously, Nocioni? Freaking Nocioni? These ACB awards are a joke and have been in recent years. They should not be taken seriously.
Andrew Wiggins
05-22-2013, 10:29 PM
its kinda bizarre to me that anybody would respond to euroleague.
its even weirder that its the same people, everytime. like you guys realise that if you just ignore him he will go away?
but instead you complain about him, but at the same time showering him with attention, ensuring that he will stay.
you guys ought to be smarter than this
dis ginger thinks he got it figured out
your constant 2 cent platitudes are meaningless and ensure you're a dumbass wallflower :roll:
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