LeBron James Has As Many Playoff Game Winners As Kobe Bryant.

[NumberSix]

Just sayin.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Thank you for telling us that!

[9erempiree]

With all those game winners from Lebron and he has one championship.

Kobe has the same amount of game winners than Lebron but got 5 championships out of it.

:facepalm

[Tmuston Beltics]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1944/f2f.png

:biggums:

[Johnny Jones]

OP is a phakkit.


Just sayin'.

[NumberSix]

With all those game winners from Lebron and he has one championship.

Kobe has the same amount of game winners than Lebron but got 5 championships out of it.

:facepalm
Yeah, cool story.

They both have 7 "clutch shot" makes in the playoffs. Difference is, LeBron has 9 misses. Kobe has 21 misses.

#clutch

[k0kakw0rld]

With all those game winners from Lebron and he has one championship.

Kobe has the same amount of game winners than Lebron but got 5 championships out of it.

:facepalm
Kobe got 2 in my book.

[chosen_one6]

With all those game winners from Lebron and he has one championship.

Kobe has the same amount of game winners than Lebron but got 5 championships out of it.

:facepalm

Kobe's career is over. LeBron is in his prime. :facepalm

[Magic 32]

Must be nice raking up game winners on layups against the Wizards and Vogel's

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/876/557/LeBronWINNER_original.gif?1369281147

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpF1COUzoU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtf7kQZC6gw


Give me a Kobe jump shot in the face of tough western conference opposition.

[Byobob]

With all those game winners from Lebron and he has one championship.

Kobe has the same amount of game winners than Lebron but got 5 championships out of it.

:facepalm

Uh oh.. Not a good sign for Kobe fans.

Cannot use the game winner argument now for Kobe vs Lebron discussions. :lol

[#number6ix#]

Perfect another kobe vs lebron thread we haven't had one of these in the last 10sec great idea

[BigTicket]

Give me a Kobe jump shot in the face of tough western conference opposition.

Kobe is very good at hitting tough shots, but then he has to be, because he's terrible at getting good shots.

[Magic 32]

Kobe is very good at hitting tough shots, but then he has to be, because he's terrible at getting good shots.

Too bad he's not playing the Wizards or the Pacers.

3 playoff game winners on layups. ............layups!

[NumberSix]

Must be nice raking up game winners on layups against the Wizards and Vogel's

Give me a Kobe jump shot in the face of tough western conference opposition.
Give me 7/16 over 7/28

[DaSeba5]

Too bad he's not playing the Wizards or the Pacers.

3 playoff game winners on layups. ............layups!

I'm not going to get into the whole Kobe-LeBron debate for the millionth time, but a game winner is a game winner no matter how you do it.

[9erempiree]

Yeah, cool story.

They both have 7 "clutch shot" makes in the playoffs. Difference is, LeBron has 9 misses. Kobe has 21 misses.

#clutch

It takes Lebron that much game winners to win a ring.

Kobe has the same amount with more rings.

You are such a Lebron stan.....it's sickening....it reminds me of this....
http://blindgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/men-kissing-7.jpg

[Leftimage]

Too bad he's not playing the Wizards or the Pacers.

3 playoff game winners on layups. ............layups!

I know right? He's so ****ing good he makes defenses look like dummies.

[Noob Saibot]

legend

[Magic 32]

I know right? He's so ****ing good he makes defenses look like dummies.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/wizthree420.jpg

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Indiana-Pacers-new-head-coach-Frank-Vogel-visits-his-native-town-in-New-Jersey-NBA-Update-86526.jpg

[Magic 32]

I'm not going to get into the whole Kobe-LeBron debate for the millionth time, but a game winner is a game winner no matter how you do it.

Is a ring a ring?

[DaSeba5]

It takes Lebron that much game winners to win a ring.

Kobe has the same amount with more rings.

You are such a Lebron stan.....it's sickening....it reminds me of this....
http://blindgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/men-kissing-7.jpg

The fact that you actually looked for that picture to post it

[Trollsmasher]

It takes Lebron that much game winners to win a ring.

Kobe has the same amount with more rings.

You are such a Lebron stan.....it's sickening....it reminds me of this....

Fkin gay. Send this to rip and stop insulting God.

[LongLiveTheKing]

It takes Lebron that much game winners to win a ring.

Kobe has the same amount with more rings.

You are such a Lebron stan.....it's sickening....it reminds me of this....
http://blindgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/men-kissing-7.jpg
:wtf:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[che guevara]

Too bad he's not playing the Wizards or the Pacers.

3 playoff game winners on layups. ............layups!
:oldlol: Yeah, just the Pacers. You know, the best defensive team in the league. Much easier than hitting a game winner against the '06 Suns.

[9erempiree]

The fact that you actually looked for that picture to post it

It was easy compared to the stuff Lebron fans do.

[Leftimage]

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Indiana-Pacers-new-head-coach-Frank-Vogel-visits-his-native-town-in-New-Jersey-NBA-Update-86526.jpg

Damn! Bron's so good he made Vogel's stock as coach go down the toilet in two possessions.

Now that's influence right there.

[NumberSix]

It was easy compared to the stuff Lebron fans do.
Your moves are just gay.

[Magic 32]

:oldlol: Yeah, just the Pacers. You know, the best defensive team in the league. Much easier than hitting a game winner against the '06 Suns.

A fast break and a jump ball. yeah.

And the best defensive team in the league was missing this guy.....

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/05/7349824-300x375.jpg

thanks to this idiot......

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Indiana-Pacers-new-head-coach-Frank-Vogel-visits-his-native-town-in-New-Jersey-NBA-Update-86526.jpg

[Leftimage]

It was easy compared to the stuff Lebron fans do.

3000+ posts in less than a year, otoh...

Get a life dude. In the very least post about players you like and not players you hate. It's annoying seeing hateful content all day.

[DuMa]

stay salty kobe fans

[MVBallin2K]

Yeah, cool story.

They both have 7 "clutch shot" makes in the playoffs. Difference is, LeBron has 9 misses. Kobe has 21 misses.

#clutch


Instead of the "YOU'RE WRONG, I'M THROWING LEBRON UNDER THE BUS, KOBE>LEBRON" argument. I get your original point about them having the same game winners but you can't really argue the number of misses. Kobe has had a long NBA career, Lebron isn't anywhere near that level yet. I mean, one could say that Lebron has been the leader of his team for a few years and is basically the leader of the Heat now and only has that many game winning attempts.

To your credit on the same token, Lebron could end up surpassing Kobe by twice as much for all we know. Just pointed this out because I don't like the argument of so and so has many missed game winners. You take a game winning shot and you make it, you're a hero. You miss it, you're everyone's enemy but at least they have the guts to take it in the first place. That's why it's funny whenever anyone misses a gamer winner and they're quick to say "unclutch" but if they passed, they're "scared".

[Magic 32]

stay salty kobe fans

Why not. Lebron building his legend on the back of the leastern confrence again. :banghead:

This Pacers team is basically the 08, 09 and 10 Utah Jazz. A second round type team.

[NumberSix]

Why not. Lebron building his legend on the back of the leastern confrence again. :banghead:

This Pacers team is basically the 08, 09 and 10 Utah Jazz. A second round type team.
You mean the conference that actually plays defense?

[Magic 32]

You mean the conference that actually plays defense?

Yes. Like the 2001 76'ers. :rolleyes:

You need great defence if you are going to suck that bad on offence.

[Byobob]

Why not. Lebron building his legend on the back of the leastern confrence again. :banghead:

This Pacers team is basically the 08, 09 and 10 Utah Jazz. A second round type team.


Kobe built his on Shaq's back. :lol :lol

[9erempiree]

Yeah, cool story.

They both have 7 "clutch shot" makes in the playoffs. Difference is, LeBron has 9 misses. Kobe has 21 misses.

#clutch

Lebron 7 times for 1 ring.
Kobe 7 times for 5 ring.

I like Kobe's percentages better. It means one of Kobe's game winners will produce a ring. Where Lebron has to make 7 to earn 1.

[Magic 32]

Kobe built his on Shaq's back. :lol :lol

http://7poundbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Miami-heat-big-3.jpg

[NumberSix]

Lebron 7 times for 1 ring.
Kobe 7 times for 5 ring.

I like Kobe's percentages better. It means one of Kobe's game winners will produce a ring. Where Lebron has to make 7 to earn 1.
It's sad how desperate Kobe tards are becoming.

[Byobob]

http://7poundbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Miami-heat-big-3.jpg

IIRC, Lebron carried them on their first ring together. Not the other way around. :lol :lol :lol

[Bobcats2013]

Comparing Kobe's playoff game winners to Lebron's is so silly. Look at both his game winners against the Suns. It's a joke to even compare.

[Magic 32]

IIRC, Lebron carried them on their first ring together. Not the other way around. :lol :lol :lol

Do I really need to compile Wade's and Bosh's combined numbers in the finals?

[Segatti]

It's sad how desperate Kobe tards are becoming.

Don't worry, you're pretty retarded aswell.

[DaSeba5]

Is a ring a ring?

Yes

[Magic 32]

Yes

Good.

Now try convince the Lebron fanbase.

[Solefade]

so because Kobe's more flashy with his game winners, he's more clutch?



yeah, ok.

[tazb]

Do I really need to compile Wade's and Bosh's combined numbers in the finals?

Said this before and I'll say this again, LeBron scored more points in last year's playoff run than Kobe has in any of his 5 championship runs. I guess Kobe's team were super-super-super stacked. :facepalm

[tazb]

so because Kobe's more flashy with his game winners, he's more clutch?



yeah, ok.

If only LeBron could make a half-court, fade away, falling out of bounds 3 pointer over 4 defenders with 0.01 left on the shotclock! :lebroncry:

[Solefade]

Do I really need to compile Wade's and Bosh's combined numbers in the finals?


What kind of point are you trying to make?


Bosh didn't play for most of the playoff games that mattered and D. Wade was on ONE knee the entire playoffs. If you actually watched, D. Wade was obviously hurt, not playing anywhere close to superstar level and scoring under 10 points by half time almost every single game in the Boston series.


Learn to take the L, bro. It might make your future arguments more creditable.

[Bobcats2013]

so because Kobe's more flashy with his game winners, he's more clutch?
yeah, ok.

It's not about flash, it's about the situation. I would LOVE to see Lebron hit a game winner with two defenders on him instead of a wide open lay up.

[Magic 32]

so because Kobe's more flashy with his game winners, he's more clutch?

yeah, ok.

Lebron playoff game winners:

2 against the wizards (layups) + 2 in the same game (g5 vs pistons) , 1 against the Magic (great shot) and anothe layup aganist the Pacers.

[Byobob]

Do I really need to compile Wade's and Bosh's combined numbers in the finals?

He led the Heat in 3 (almost 4) statistical categories. 28.6 ppg with 10 rpg and 7 apg. WTF are you talking about. Wade had 22/6/5 and Bosh averaged 14ppg (which is good) in the finals.

Not to mention, the series with Indy WITHOUT Bosh and a hobbled Wade.
And of course, the elimination game on the road against Boston.

I don't expect you to change your mind though. Because agreeing to what I said would be like admitting Kobe got carried by Shaq. :lol :lol :lol

[Magic 32]

D. Wade was on ONE knee the entire playoffs. If you actually watched, D. Wade was obviously hurt


Kobe won a championship on 1 knee.

[Solefade]

It's not about flash, it's about the situation. I would LOVE to see Lebron hit a game winner with two defenders on him instead of a wide open lay up.


You would like to see LeBron take a bad shot in a clutch situation?



uuuhhh ok


LeBron always makes the correct basketball play no matter what situation, this is what most Kobetards fail to understand.

[Magic 32]

He led the Heat in 3 (almost 4) statistical categories. 28.6 ppg with 10 rpg and 7 apg. WTF are you talking about. Wade had 22/6/5 and Bosh averaged 14ppg (which is good) in the finals.

Not to mention, the series with Indy WITHOUT Bosh and a hobbled Wade.
And of course, the elimination game on the road against Boston.

I don't expect you to change your mind though. Because agreeing to what I said would be like admitting Kobe got carried by Shaq. :lol :lol :lol

2009, 2010?

Kobe's 2000-2002 run = 1 ring for Lebron?

[Cleverness]

It's not about flash, it's about the situation. I would LOVE to see Lebron hit a game winner with two defenders on him instead of a wide open lay up.

Why wouldn't you just pass it to the open man, ala Michael Jordan to Kerr?:confusedshrug:

[tazb]

It's not about flash, it's about the situation. I would LOVE to see Lebron hit a game winner with two defenders on him instead of a wide open lay up.

Why? Why would you take a difficult shot when there's an easier opportunity to go for the higher quality shot - a layup. That just show's you the person who's taking the harder shot has low b-ball IQ. :confusedshrug:

[HeatFanSince88]

2009, 2010?

Kobe's 2000-2002 run = 1 ring for Lebron?

Nobody cares about rings unless your the most important player on the team that wins them. Otherwise you can have fun putting Horry on your GOAT list.

So since Shaq was the Lakers MVP from 00-02, and Gasol was the Lakers MVP from 09-10, Kobe has zero rings. When Shaq left and before Gasol came the Lakers won zero playoff series. Yeah Im sure Kobe was the main reason for them winning, not them trading for Gasol or having the best bigman of all-time in his prime. :oldlol:

[Magic 32]

Why? Why would you take a difficult shot when there's an easier opportunity to go for the higher quality shot - a layup. That just show's you the person who's taking the harder shot has low b-ball IQ. :confusedshrug:

or maybe they don't have a stacked team.

[tpols]

You would like to see LeBron take a bad shot in a clutch situation?



uuuhhh ok


LeBron always makes the correct basketball play no matter what situation, this is what most Kobetards fail to understand.
Lebron was visibly shook from about the 6 minute mark of the fourth til 90 seconds left in OT. He didnt want any part in scoring the ball. Thats brons problem in the clutch.. sometimes he goes passive. His GW was more of a defensive collapse than him deciding to put the game in his own hands.

Kobe is the opposite. He usually becomes very aggressive down the stretch and but on last second shots he forces the issue way too much.

If we could combine them wed have the perfect clutch player.

[Solefade]

Why? Why would you take a difficult shot when there's an easier opportunity to go for the higher quality shot - a layup. That just show's you the person who's taking the harder shot has low b-ball IQ. :confusedshrug:



What else would you expect from a Kobetard? He can't wrap his head around that logic man.

[Magic 32]

Nobody cares about rings unless your the most important player on the team that wins them. Otherwise you can have fun putting Horry on your GOAT list.

So since Shaq was the Lakers MVP from 00-02, and Gasol was the Lakers MVP from 09-10, Kobe has zero rings. When Shaq left and before Gasol came the Lakers won zero playoff series. Yeah Im sure Kobe was the main reason for them winning, not them trading for Gasol or having the best bigman of all-time in his prime. :oldlol:

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[Byobob]

2009, 2010?

Kobe's 2000-2002 run = 1 ring for Lebron?


Oh, what happened to your argument of Lebron being carried like Kobe for the chip?

In any case, I don't take anything from Kobe for his 2 chips as the man. He did an unbelievable job. I actually rooted for him that time.

[Bobcats2013]

You would like to see LeBron take a bad shot in a clutch situation?
uuuhhh ok
LeBron always makes the correct basketball play no matter what situation, this is what most Kobetards fail to understand.

Calling me a Kobetard. :oldlol: I hated the Lakers since I was a kid. I never was a fan of Kobe either. I've been bashing them for years.

Don't imply that Lebron's game winners are better than Kobe's because they're not. If you think they are, then why are we talking? You clearly a bigger Lebron fan than a basketball fan. It's stupid to even compare the 2.

[HeatFanSince88]

Calling me a Kobetard. :oldlol: I hated the Lakers since I was a kid. I never was a fan of Kobe either. I've been bashing them for years.

Don't imply that Lebron's game winners are better than Kobe's because they're not. If you think they are, then why are we talking? You clearly a bigger Lebron fan than a basketball fan.

So you'd want your team taking a contested jumpshot over a layup that was created by their elite athletisicm and ability to get to the rim?

Too many ESPN top ten fans on here and not enough actual basketball people.

[tazb]

What else would you expect from a Kobetard? He can't wrap his head around that logic man.

Word. Bunch of idiots.:facepalm

[Magic 32]

Oh, what happened to your argument of Lebron being carried like Kobe for the chip?



If Kobe was carried, then Lebron was carried?

Not a deal Lebron fans would like.

When Lebron joined the big 3, I'm sure he was dreaming of fans like you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JskyovzAyiA&t=2m38s

[Bobcats2013]

Why? Why would you take a difficult shot when there's an easier opportunity to go for the higher quality shot - a layup. That just show's you the person who's taking the harder shot has low b-ball IQ. :confusedshrug:

I completely agree it also shows a lack of trust in the team mates, but that doesn't mean the 2006 legendary game winner he had against the Suns is getting topped by a damn lay up. Are you kidding me? :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lebron, slowly but surely, kicking Bean's ass out of top 10 lists.

[MARLO]

HEY!


OP!


Why don't you and your ilk..



stop cluttering up this forum with your repetitive, redundant bullshit?

:confusedshrug:

[Magic 32]

Lebron, slowly but surely, kicking Bean's ass out of top 10 lists.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

[Bobcats2013]

So you'd want your team taking a contested jumpshot over a layup that was created by their elite athletisicm and ability to get to the rim?

Too many ESPN top ten fans on here and not enough actual basketball people.

If Steph Curry fooled Tony Parker for a magical game winning lay up I would be so happy. At the same time would I compare it to Kobe's game winner against the Suns in 2000? Hell no :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

Let's face it....anyone can make a lay up when given the opportunity.

What makes Kobe's game winners more impressive is that teams would send the double team at him and hits the shot.

You are trying to compare a game winning lay up to an actual game winner?:oldlol:

[Byobob]

If Kobe was carried, then Lebron was carried?

Not a deal Lebron fans would like.

When Lebron joined the big 3, I'm sure he was dreaming of fans like you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JskyovzAyiA&t=2m38s


Dudeeeeeeee! How can someone be carried if you led the team in almost 4 statistical categories in the whole playoffs including the finals? :lol :lol :lol

Including monster games when they were behind the series. :roll: :roll:

[tazb]

Let's face it....anyone can make a lay up when given the opportunity.

What makes Kobe's game winners more impressive is that teams would send the double team at him and hits the shot.

You are trying to compare a game winning lay up to an actual game winner?:oldlol:

But if he misses it (which stats show he misses way more than he makes) he has low b-ball IQ, and has no trust in his team-mates. If a double comes then one person is surely left wide-open, right?

[TheWalkman]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

http://www.diehardsport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/KobeInjuredWarriors.gif

[Bobcats2013]

Let's face it....anyone can make a lay up when given the opportunity.

What makes Kobe's game winners more impressive is that teams would send the double team at him and hits the shot.

You are trying to compare a game winning lay up to an actual game winner?:oldlol:

That's what I'm saying. These are guys are going as far to imply that it is. :oldlol: I don't mind if Lebron fans wanna talk about how great Lebron is but there has to be a line in the sand somewhere, my eyes aren't lying to me 9er.

[TheBigVeto]

Just sayin.

And how is that impressive? Kobe is not great on game winners. This is not something to be proud about.

[Magic 32]

Including monster games when they were behind the series. :roll: :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ4XBslOQbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdhA41wgms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfxlvvXfSw

[Magic 32]

http://www.diehardsport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/KobeInjuredWarriors.gif

http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/kobe-bryant-torn-achilles-tendon-lakers-570x379.jpg
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/61812_James.jpg

[che guevara]

Fun fact: Lebron made as many buzzer beating game winners in tonight's game as Kobe has made in his entire playoff career.

:oldlol:

[Trollsmasher]

http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/kobe-bryant-torn-achilles-tendon-lakers-570x379.jpg
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/61812_James.jpg
Good idea, Kobe, make your injury even worse by trying to be tough:rockon:

[Magic 32]

Fun fact: Lebron made as many buzzer beating game winners in tonight's game as Kobe has made in his entire playoff career.

:oldlol:

http://originaldc.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/big3.jpg

[Byobob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ4XBslOQbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdhA41wgms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjfxlvvXfSw


Did I say that Kobe doesn't have monster games in the playoffs? : NO
Was he carried by Shaq since Shaq had better numbers in their 3peat? : YES

Did I say that Lebron led the Heat on their first ring together? : YES
Did you respond to this? NO

:lol :lol :lol

I'm not mad at you though. Glad to have this kind of argument to be honest.
Cheers to you man. Looking forward for Game 2.
Peace out!

[Magic 32]

Good idea, Kobe, make your injury even worse by trying to be tough:rockon:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LBJFlop1.gif

[Leftimage]

I like Kobe a lot, but I'm a HUGE Lebron fan since his HS days. Fave player.

Had you asked off the top of my head who had more playoff game-winners, I would have assumed Kobe by a few.

Just goes to show how powerful the Lebron hater propaganda machine is. Even I've fallen for some of their hocus-pocus.

[Dubs510]

Kobe games don't come down to the wire so he doesn't need to hit game winners :coleman:

[tazb]

Magic 32 might be having a meltdown. :lol

[Greg Oden 50]

Just sayin.

and just one ring :roll:

[Magic 32]

Did I say that Kobe doesn't have monster games in the playoffs? : NO
Was he carried by Shaq since Shaq had better numbers in their 3peat? : YES

Did I say that Lebron led the Heat on their first ring together? : YES
Did you respond to this? NO

:lol :lol :lol

2 superstars as supporting cast < being part of a dynamic duo on a team with no depth.

[Trollsmasher]

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LBJFlop1.gif
Preventing the injury by taking a safe fall instead of trying to stay on his feet while unbalanced... nothing wrong with that:confusedshrug:

That is why LeBron is healthy and seemingly immune to injuries, while Kobe is sitting in his wheelchair.

[Magic 32]

Magic 32 might be having a meltdown. :lol

Not really.

Just holding back the sh*tflood from Lebron's army of darkness.

[Magic 32]

That is why LeBron is healthy and seemingly immune to injuries, while Kobe is sitting in his wheelchair.

Can't wait for Lebron's 17th season.

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/6a0115709f071f970b0148c753c553970c.jpe

[Solefade]

Magic 32, how insecure are you right now from a scale of 1-10? :yaohappy:

[Trollsmasher]

Can't wait for Lebron's 17th season.

http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/6a0115709f071f970b0148c753c553970c.jpe
His legacy will be set by that time, unlike Kobe who is still desperately ringchasing and trying to stay in TOP 10:lol

[Magic 32]

Magic 32, how insecure are you right now from a scale of 1-10? :yaohappy:

Right around level "LBJ".

http://jbsmooth84.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/lebron-james-espn-covo.jpg

[tazb]

His legacy will be set by that time, unlike Kobe who is still desperately ringchasing and trying to stay in TOP 10:lol
:lol :applause:

[Magic 32]

ringchasing

Ringchasing?

Kobe 17 seasons = 1 team

[NumberSix]

Kobe games don't come down to the wire so he doesn't need to hit game winners :coleman:
That why he needed to desperately attempt 28 of them?

[Leftimage]

Ringchasing?

Kobe 17 seasons = 1 team

Charlotte Hornets, Clippers had he not been talked out of that tantrum.

[KOBE143]

Kobe game winners were far impressive than LeBron ugly game winners..

Just sayin


BTW OP is a f4g0t

[NumberSix]

Kobe game winners were far impressive than LeBron ugly game winners..

Just sayin


BTW OP is a f4g0t
Kobe's <3..... You're a homo.

[tazb]

Kobe game winners were far impressive than LeBron ugly game winners..

Just sayin


BTW OP is a f4g0t

2 points = 2 points

3 points = 3 points

[BoutPractice]

Funny how people point out that LeBron gets some of his gamewinners on easier shots as if it made his gamewinners worth less than Kobe's. Aside from 3 pointers versus 2 pointers, you don't get extra points for difficulty.

If LeBron were to attempt more contested fadeaways with two defenders on him like Kobe, his percentage on game winners would definitely go down...

But then what logically follows is this: his percentage on game winners... would look a lot more like Kobe Bryant's.

That's the problem with this argument.

In fact, Kobe's percentage on game winners is so low that it's difficult to know whether a pool of random scoring SGs, much less talented than Kobe, attempting the same number of shots, would do better or worse. It's not a proof of ability, just a proof that he's taking many shots in these situations.

I respect Kobe tremendously, and I don't wish to get into an argument beyond game winners. But those are the facts.

[Cleverness]

Funny how people point out that LeBron gets some of his gamewinners on easier shots as if it made his gamewinners worth less than Kobe's. Aside from 3 pointers versus 2 pointers, you don't get extra points for difficulty.

If LeBron were to attempt more contested fadeaways with two defenders on him like Kobe, his percentage on game winners would definitely go down...

But then what logically follows is this: his percentage on game winners... would look a lot more like Kobe Bryant's.

That's the problem with this argument.

In fact, Kobe's percentage on game winners is so low that it's difficult to know whether a pool of random scoring SGs, much less talented than Kobe, attempting the same number of shots, would do better or worse. It's not a proof of ability, just a proof that he's taking many shots in these situations.

I respect Kobe tremendously, and I don't wish to get into an argument beyond game winners. But those are the facts.

From the game winners (and misses) that I remember, both players pretty much created their own shot (ie not off a tip-in putback).

[Nashty]

2 superstars as supporting cast < being part of a dynamic duo on a team with no depth.

Lakers record with Kobe: 705-384 (.647)
Lakers record without Kobe: 56-37 (.602)

Heat record with LeBron: 163-54 (.751)
Heat record without LeBron: 7-6 (.538)

[Jameerthefear]

Lakers record with Kobe: 705-384 (.647)
Lakers record without Kobe: 56-37 (.602)

Heat record with LeBron: 163-54 (.751)
Heat record without LeBron: 7-6 (.538)
... you even showed why your own statistic was bad with that tiny sample size.......

[Soundwave]

http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/ojQzAnZGEso/hqdefault.jpg

Don't do it LeBron. I need this.

[Trollsmasher]

Clutch: Last 10 years LeBron shoots an NBA best 44% in last 24 seconds. League average: 27.8%.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Congrats to him for being able to match up with one of the most clutch playoff performers ever. :applause:

[tmacattack33]

So what. Kobe is not the standard for clutchness in the playoffs.

[Magic 32]

Lakers record with Kobe: 705-384 (.647)
Lakers record without Kobe: 56-37 (.602)



Playoffs stats?

I think not.

0-5

[Unbiased_one]

... you even showed why your own statistic was bad with that tiny sample size.......

A better LeBron stat is that this season the heat have outscored opponents by 14ppg with him on the floor, and been outscored by 1ppg with him off the floor :bowdown:

[RRR3]

Too bad he's not playing the Wizards or the Pacers.

3 playoff game winners on layups. ............layups!
Yeah, because it's not like Kobe shot 9/31 against the Wizards this year. Or as if he needed 30 shots to get 33 points against Indiana.

[RRR3]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif
The only time Kobe ever outplayed LeBron was in a game that didn't mean anything. Think about that for a second.

[Magic 32]

The only time Kobe ever outplayed LeBron was in a game that didn't mean anything. Think about that for a second.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ix5EeEYms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo

And when did they play a game that mattered?

[uoykcuf]

The only time Kobe ever outplayed LeBron was in a game that didn't mean anything. Think about that for a second.

The truth :applause:

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[dh144498]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ix5EeEYms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo

And when did they play a game that mattered?


ouch.... RRR3 getting ethered, as usual.

[longtime lurker]

Just sayin.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/368/741/989.gif

I guess Numbersix is no longer trying to hide his full blown erection for Lebron :lol

[Trollsmasher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ix5EeEYms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo

And when did they play a game that mattered?
I like how you tried to use 2 videos which are worthless in this discussion to make Kobe look better:roll:

[Remix]

2 points = 2 points

3 points = 3 points
Let me check your math.

5/7 > 1/3

5 > 1

Yup seems right.