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Donkey4trading
05-25-2013, 03:24 PM
Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair

3LiftHeatCurse
05-25-2013, 03:27 PM
He needs more help though bro, he's only playing with 2 franchise level players and the greatest 3 point shooter of all time coming off the bench.

What the *** is he supposed to do with that?

uber
05-25-2013, 03:29 PM
Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair

:roll: :roll:

CanYouDigIt
05-25-2013, 03:29 PM
Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair
Stopped reading after that, future negged

uber
05-25-2013, 03:30 PM
Stopped reading after that, future negged

Yeah, because he obvioulsy was very serious with his post :rolleyes:

longtime lurker
05-25-2013, 03:34 PM
Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair

Lol either you're being sarcastic or this is just a alt account to make Heat fans look bad.

lebeast666
05-25-2013, 03:41 PM
It does look like Miami Cavaliers at times, but right now I think Miami has not played to there full potential and a lot of it has to do with Pacers D. Shooters not really making an impact, and Wade/Bosh are kind of neutral. LeBron looking like he need to continue avging 35+ pts on good efficiency to win out.

3LiftHeatCurse
05-25-2013, 03:43 PM
It does look like Miami Cavaliers at times, but right now I think Miami has not played to there full potential and a lot of it has to do with Pacers D. Shooters not really making an impact, and Wade/Bosh are kind of neutral. LeBron looking like he need to continue avging 35+ pts on good efficiency to win out.

Miami Cavaliers?

he's only playing with 2 franchise level players and the greatest 3 point shooter of all time coming off the bench, along with Battier, Miller, Haslem, Birdman...

but yeah, he needs more help. What the *** is he supposed to do with that? Riles got LBJ playin with a bunch of chris quinn's out there.

Nebraskanball
05-25-2013, 03:47 PM
Stopped reading when you said the Pacers are more staked than the Heat. Seriously. Delete your account and never watch basketball again.

Best player in the world? Check.
Top 6 SG of all time? Check.
Top 3 CURRENT SG in the league? Check.
Perennial all-star PF/C? Check.
Three all-stars on one team? Check.
2nd best 3 point shooting team in the league? Check.
Lebron. James. Check.
Promising 7+ rings? Check.

Stop with that BS.

lebeast666
05-25-2013, 03:48 PM
Miami Cavaliers?

he's only playing with 2 franchise level players and the greatest 3 point shooter of all time coming off the bench, along with Battier, Miller, Haslem, Birdman...

but yeah, he needs more help. What the *** is he supposed to do with that? Riles got LBJ playin with a bunch of chris quinn's out there.

I'm not blind, I know hes playing with those players. Are they gonna keep relying on Birdman to drop 20pts the rest of the series and then only win by 1 pt? Its time to see some big contributions from the starting lineup atleast.

Trollsmasher
05-25-2013, 03:52 PM
Pacers are not stacked. They bench totally sucks. They simply create match up problems with Hibbert and West in the post and it is enough to make this series very competitive. Along with George who seems to grow in every game he plays.

MavsSuperFan
05-25-2013, 03:56 PM
Yeah I mean why is the other team allowed to play 5 players on the court at the same time. Lebron deserves better.

Done_And_Done
05-25-2013, 04:19 PM
You troll with the execution of a limb'less painter.

Go away...

tikay0
05-25-2013, 04:21 PM
Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair

OP, perfect avatar for you. :applause:

NumberSix
05-25-2013, 04:25 PM
Does every Miami win have to come with endless LeBron/Heat hyperbole and every loss come with endless "LeBron failed" and frantic LeBron defending?

tikay0
05-25-2013, 04:27 PM
Does every Miami win have to come with endless LeBron/Heat hyperbole and every loss come with endless "LeBron failed" and frantic LeBron defending?

You started it. Now STFU.

Xsatyr
05-25-2013, 04:29 PM
Stopped reading when you said the Pacers are more staked than the Heat. Seriously. Delete your account and never watch basketball again.

Best player in the world? Check.
Top 6 SG of all time? Check.
Top 3 CURRENT SG in the league? Check.
Perennial all-star PF/C? Check.
Three all-stars on one team? Check.
2nd best 3 point shooting team in the league? Check.
Lebron. James. Check.
Promising 7+ rings? Check.

Stop with that BS.

Who is the best player in the world?

Donkey4trading
05-25-2013, 06:42 PM
The pacers have more parts than Miami, MIA obviously has the better talent when looking at each teams best 2 players but there's no denying that the pacers have the better overall team

NumberSix
05-25-2013, 06:44 PM
The pacers have more parts than Miami, MIA obviously has the better talent when looking at each teams best 2 players but there's no denying that the pacers have the better overall team
Not really. Pacers depth is pretty fckin' weak.

Donkey4trading
05-25-2013, 09:34 PM
Not really. Pacers depth is pretty fckin' weak.


The only player on Mia better at his position than who he's facing against IND is Lebron.

RedBlackAttack
05-25-2013, 10:10 PM
It does look like Miami Cavaliers at times
Ever think that has more to do with James than the guys he's playing with?

Great player, but he doesn't leave a ton of room for other truly great players to breath on the offensive end when he's running the show.

eriX
05-25-2013, 10:16 PM
Ever think that has more to do with James than the guys he's playing with?

Great player, but he doesn't leave a ton of room for other truly great players to breath on the offensive end when he's running the show.

thats why its up to the coach to run sets that gets them both involved constantly and the reason they aren't executing down the stretch is because its all hero ball and no sets are being run to maximize the talents.

RedBlackAttack
05-25-2013, 10:27 PM
thats why its up to the coach to run sets that gets them both involved constantly and the reason they aren't executing down the stretch is because its all hero ball and no sets are being run to maximize the talents.
The first coach to figure out how to incorporate three basketballs into Miami's offensive sets will surely unlock a monster. Unfortunately, that's the only way I ever see this Heat team being able to maximize the Big Three's talents at the same time on the same floor. From an individual talent standpoint, this Miami team is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all-time. In reality, though, when you need moving and working parts, I still don't think it's an all-time great team.

That isn't to say they're finished or anything of the like. That team is still completely capable of overwhelming Indiana or anyone else simply on talent alone. They're still the clear favorite to win this thing by a longshot.

But, it has more to do with James being an incredible individual talent surrounded by two other absolute beasts (yes, Wade is still a beast), along with having a nice group of role players.

That said, I don't think Wade and James would have ever been an ideal pairing that brought the best out of one another. Not when Wade was in his absolute prime, and not now. Both guys are capable of dominating the game from every facet, but only when the offense is run by and through them. Unfortunately for them, you can't have two guys running the offense.

James is the better player and he has completely seized control of that offense... And rightfully so. But, that seriously limits how involved Wade can be and does the same thing to Bosh to a much lesser extent.

Wade is essentially relegated to a role player right now, except, what's his role? It is undefined and he's playing like he's not sure how he fits... And for good reason, because he doesn't really fit in an offense with LeBron James.

Meticode
05-26-2013, 03:11 AM
The first coach to figure out how to incorporate three basketballs into Miami's offensive sets will surely unlock a monster. Unfortunately, that's the only way I ever see this Heat team being able to maximize the Big Three's talents at the same time on the same floor. From an individual talent standpoint, this Miami team is undoubtedly one of the greatest of all-time. In reality, though, when you need moving and working parts, I still don't think it's an all-time great team.

That isn't to say they're finished or anything of the like. That team is still completely capable of overwhelming Indiana or anyone else simply on talent alone. They're still the clear favorite to win this thing by a longshot.

But, it has more to do with James being an incredible individual talent surrounded by two other absolute beasts (yes, Wade is still a beast), along with having a nice group of role players.

That said, I don't think Wade and James would have ever been an ideal pairing that brought the best out of one another. Not when Wade was in his absolute prime, and not now. Both guys are capable of dominating the game from every facet, but only when the offense is run by and through them. Unfortunately for them, you can't have two guys running the offense.

James is the better player and he has completely seized control of that offense... And rightfully so. But, that seriously limits how involved Wade can be and does the same thing to Bosh to a much lesser extent.

Wade is essentially relegated to a role player right now, except, what's his role? It is undefined and he's playing like he's not sure how he fits... And for good reason, because he doesn't really fit in an offense with LeBron James.
I agree with everything you posted.

Far too often when I see Wade and James on the floor and ISO's are ran through them to have a play develop, you'll see James standing still doing absolutely nothing while Wade tries to make something happen or vice versa. That's not to say that happens on every play, but it happens a hell of a lot. reminds me of the days in Cleveland with James playing 1 on 5.

That's partly why I'm interested in Otto Porter in the draft for Cleveland actually. The guy loves to move without the ball, and I think that would be awesome for team, but then again there was an ideal trade the other day posted that Cleveland show maybe trade for Danny Granger, throw in a role player and the 19th pick, take his 14 mil off the hands of Indiana for 1 year, and just go ahead and draft Noel. And it's a win-win for both teams. Pacers get rid of his salary, Cleveland gets a proven knock down scorer/defender that's coming off injury obviously to prove he can still play and they only take a chance on him for 1 year.

I'm thinking way out there, but still...

Bandito
05-26-2013, 08:03 AM
It does look like Miami Cavaliers at times, but right now I think Miami has not played to there full potential and a lot of it has to do with Pacers D. Shooters not really making an impact, and Wade/Bosh are kind of neutral. LeBron looking like he need to continue avging 35+ pts on good efficiency to win out.
The Heat has 4 future hall of fame players on the team. What more help does the Heat need?

pauk
05-26-2013, 08:14 AM
So much damn overreaction going around, Miami cant win all games...

Bandito
05-26-2013, 09:17 AM
So much damn overreaction going around, Miami cant win all games...
I know is like they are down 3-1 or something where they just lost by like 2 points or something like that in one game.

TheGreatDeraj
05-26-2013, 09:35 AM
agreed this is completely unfair. If only lebron wasn't forced to play with these scrubs. If only he could have made the decision of where and whom to play with.

AceManIII
05-26-2013, 09:41 AM
agreed this is completely unfair. If only lebron wasn't forced to play with these scrubs. If only he could have made the decision of where and whom to play with.

:applause: :oldlol: :applause:

Derka
05-26-2013, 10:12 AM
The Heat have lost TWO playoff games this postseason and this is what happens after both of them. Just insane.

COnDEMnED
05-26-2013, 12:03 PM
Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair
Bold 1: Top 3 players on both teams, who has the better players?
Bold 2: Lebron James and Bosh after the decision: Not one, not two, not three ect, ect..
Bold 3: Other than 2007, what cavs team did LeBron take to the finals?
Bold 4: Lebron quit on his team too.
Bold 5: :facepalm

EDIT: I notice the join date.. good troll April 2013
EDIT 2: Just checked again, you're not April 2013...that's not good for you..

Magic 32
05-26-2013, 09:47 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

DetroitPistonFan
05-26-2013, 10:45 PM
LOL @ "Pacers are stacked".

3LiftHeatCurse
05-26-2013, 11:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/i3YDPKx.gif

DMAVS41
05-26-2013, 11:39 PM
The Heat have lost TWO playoff games this postseason and this is what happens after both of them. Just insane.

You are so right. It's pathetic. The Heat are absolutely stacked and are ****ing 10-2 so far in the playoffs.

305Baller
05-27-2013, 12:08 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/IA3epWXnhwinS/original.gif

Simple Jack
05-27-2013, 03:41 AM
Is there any reason people continue to take the "not 1, not 2..." quote completely out of context? Are they really that stupid?

TheCorporation
05-27-2013, 04:08 AM
He needs more help though bro, he's only playing with 2 franchise level players and the greatest 3 point shooter of all time coming off the bench.

What the *** is he supposed to do with that?

Bosh is a Franchise player now? LOL

If you talk to a Heat stan, Bosh is a borderline top 5 PF.
If you talk to a Heat hater, Bosh is a top 10 player.

Let us not forget Wade has been streaky. When Wade is on, Heat are nearly unstoppable, but when he lays an egg, ehhh they aren't so dominant. LBJ is going to get his 25-30. That's how he do cuhhhh

So anyway, back to your dumb post.

Ray Allen IS the best 3-point shooter of all time, but he is shooting terribly during this post season series versus Indy. Hell, all of Miami's shooters are. Wanna take a look at their playoff averages and see?

Mario Chalmers: 7 ppg, 28% from 3
Ray Allen: 10.5 ppg, 36% from 3 (He is shooting .167 from 3 in this series with Indiana. .167 from 3...)
Shane Battier: 5 ppg, 23% from 3
Norris Cole: 7 ppg, 59% from 3 (Was red hot versus Chicago)

LOL

CavaliersFTW
05-31-2013, 01:39 PM
Bumping this shit since someone else is also complaining today about the Heat not being "stacked" :oldlol:

DuMa
05-31-2013, 01:49 PM
The Heat have lost TWO playoff games this postseason and this is what happens after both of them. Just insane.

They've lost 3. and really they should have never lost those 3.

dh144498
05-31-2013, 01:54 PM
another lebron stan making excuses.
Pacers are more stacked than the Heat?
dafuq?
:oldlol:
:roll:
:lol
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:wtf:
:biggums:

Doranku
05-31-2013, 01:55 PM
They have yet to play a team with a top 15 player. :roll: Yet people are in awe when LeBron is the best player on the court night in and night out.

CavaliersFTW
05-31-2013, 01:56 PM
another lebron stan making excuses.
Pacers are more stacked than the Heat?
dafuq?
:oldlol:
:roll:
:lol
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:wtf:
:biggums:
Le"Heat" fans what do you expect :oldlol:

3LiftHeatCurse
05-31-2013, 02:07 PM
Le"Heat" fans what do you expect :oldlol:
Try not to talk too much shit. At one point not too long ago, they were Le"Cavalier" fans.

Mass Debator
05-31-2013, 02:09 PM
They aren't stacked. They're just front heavy.

CavaliersFTW
05-31-2013, 02:19 PM
Try not to talk too much shit. At one point not too long ago, they were Le"Cavalier" fans.
That's exactly why I'm talking shit