View Full Version : There's no doubt in my mind Tim Duncan is on something.
Akhenaten
05-26-2013, 04:26 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
DJ Leon Smith
05-26-2013, 04:28 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
InsideHoops has upgraded from a simple troll forum to legal slander. Congratulations Jeff/mods.
fpliii
05-26-2013, 04:30 PM
:facepalm
Artillery
05-26-2013, 04:35 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
He had a fantastic season and was, for sure, the best big man in the NBA.
:oldlol: at everybody overrating fat Gasol and Noah
SpurrDurr
05-26-2013, 04:35 PM
In a perfect world you wouldn't be allowed to procreate
It's not like Duncan is some athletic specimen...
tikay0
05-26-2013, 04:44 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that OP is one something.
3LiftHeatCurse
05-26-2013, 04:47 PM
theres no doubt in my mind kobe bryant was on something to help him deal with 40+ mins a night at 34 yrs old and finally got injured due to it.
most of the NBA is probably on something
Akhenaten
05-26-2013, 04:50 PM
InsideHoops has upgraded from a simple troll forum to legal slander. Congratulations Jeff/mods.
No trolling is something do purely for reaction or bait, I'm DEADLY sincere about what I'm saying. What Duncan is doing at 37 in physiologically unprecedented and UNSEQUENTIAL.
You DO NOT go from avg under 2 blocks a game at 31, to avg nearly 3 a game at 37 playing 4 less minutes in a league avg less shots per game than it did in 07-08.
I never speculated he was on something illegal, but he's on SOMETHING (he knows something all the great minds of nutrition/kinesiology do not) maybe he's eating the same yams as Usain Bolt I don't know, but what he's currently doing isn't congruent at all.
gilalizard
05-26-2013, 04:51 PM
Oh Timmy's on something all right.
He subsists on plates of Whoop-Ass covered in pure, unadulterated Awesome Sauce.
Akhenaten
05-26-2013, 04:51 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that OP is one something.
nothing but this good kush and alcohol:pimp:
not at the moment though, I actually want this thread to be taken seriously
I've been poring over numbers of other all-time greats for the last hour plus, what TD is doing beyond comprehension.
Duncan's fundamental game > *
RichieW
05-26-2013, 05:00 PM
OP clearly believes in athleticism over fundamentals. Duncans timing and bball IQ is so good he can get 3 blocks and 10 rebounds per game without jumping.
He's never relied on his athletic ability to get his numbers, so why would his numbers drop when his athletic ability diminishes?
Per 36:
2003: 21.3/11.8 w/ 2.7 blocks and 2.6 fouls on 51% shooting
2013: 21.3/11.9 w/ 3.2 blocks and 2.0 fouls on 50% shooting
Only difference is that his body can't handle the same kind of minutes
Akhenaten
05-26-2013, 05:02 PM
Duncan's fundamental game > *
so he wasnt fundamentally sound the prior 5 seasons when avg 1.7 blocks while playing more minutes in a league that avg more shots?
it dont compute man.
RichieW
05-26-2013, 05:05 PM
so he wasnt fundamentally sound the prior 5 seasons when avg 1.7 blocks while playing more minutes in a league that avg more shots?
it dont compute man.
He had a persistent knee injury.
kamil
05-26-2013, 05:08 PM
Duncan's fundamental game > *
LMAO!
Duncan's 4 > 1
Rose'sACL
05-26-2013, 05:08 PM
Pretty much every athlete in a high paying sport in on something. it is pretty childish to think otherwise.
Bandito
05-26-2013, 05:09 PM
Hes on the same thing Lebron is obviously using.
Euroleague
05-26-2013, 05:10 PM
95+% of NBA players are doing heavy PED use. Duncan is no different.
Bandito
05-26-2013, 05:13 PM
95+% of NBA players are doing heavy PED use. Duncan is no different.
The get their shipment straight from the Olympiacos stash back in Greece.
WayOfWade
05-26-2013, 05:19 PM
Yes, he is on the Spurs.
poido123
05-26-2013, 05:28 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
Duncan has very good fundamentals, and has learned to place himself in the right positions to get rebounds and blocks? The thing is, he has got himself into really good physical shape and is able to play like he is 28 again. If you actually watch Duncan he's not bouncing around using his athleticism to get these rebounds and blocks, he just simply has learned over the years to perfect his game and become more efficient with his output. What's hard to understand about that?
Dengness9
05-26-2013, 05:43 PM
He had a fantastic season and was, for sure, the best big man in the NBA.
:oldlol: at everybody overrating fat Gasol and Noah
No need to hate on either player. Gasol has been huge for Memphis and Noah single handedly ended the Nets season in game 7 of the first round. Gasol DPOY and Noah first team all D.....
just because they are not the best PF of all time doesn't mean they should be laughed at for it
chips93
05-26-2013, 05:48 PM
No need to hate on either player. Gasol has been huge for Memphis and Noah single handedly ended the Nets season in game 7 of the first round. Gasol DPOY and Noah first team all D.....
just because they are not the best PF of all time doesn't mean they should be laughed at for it
:applause:
Euroleague
05-26-2013, 05:52 PM
The get their shipment straight from the Olympiacos stash back in Greece.
Anyone that denies NBA players use PEDs is a certifiable dumb ass.
BoutPractice
05-26-2013, 05:54 PM
A thread like that is pretty much the ultimate compliment for an athlete... It's great that people are finally realizing how amazing a player Tim Duncan is.
They spent most of his career complaining that he was boring, but the second he's gone, they'll all be complaining about how today's PFs can't hold a candle to him.
unbreakable
05-26-2013, 06:00 PM
Anyone that denies NBA players use PEDs is a certifiable dumb ass.
anyone that denies ALL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES AROUND THE WORLD use PEDs is a certifiable dumb ass.
fixed that for you, SCRUB.
TheBigVeto
05-26-2013, 07:12 PM
GOAT PF and best player since Michael Jordan. FACT.
Euroleague
05-26-2013, 07:19 PM
A thread like that is pretty much the ultimate compliment for an athlete... It's great that people are finally realizing how amazing a player Tim Duncan is.
They spent most of his career complaining that he was boring, but the second he's gone, they'll all be complaining about how today's PFs can't hold a candle to him.
Yeah, even though he's been playing center most of his career.
hitmanyr2k
05-26-2013, 07:37 PM
It's possible Duncan is on a high from living life as a single man again. If he's been having marriage problems it's probably drained him mentalliy. I would imagine being unchained from a bad marriage can do wonders for his psyche.
tomtucker
05-26-2013, 07:45 PM
sure, why not......there are no tests, right ?
Funnyfuka
05-26-2013, 07:49 PM
newsflash all pro athletes in all pro sports are on a regimen of low doses of steroids known as HRT and, hgh.
Clifton
05-26-2013, 08:15 PM
It's not like Duncan is some athletic specimen...
I don't agree. He's 7 feet tall and 37. Have you seen him dribble? Have you seen how quick he can get a shot up over guys? Have you seen him get a tough jump ball underneath or block a guy one on one in the post? His coordination and reflexes are unreal.
A guy's vertical leap is much less important. Duncan's level of talent is crazy. When you compare how ad-libbed his game is in comparison with other all-time greats at his position (Malone, Kareem, Hakeem) you start to realize it.
I don't suspect Duncan or anything, but has anyone ever recorded a career high in Block% this late in their career?
G-train
05-26-2013, 09:41 PM
95+% of NBA players are doing heavy PED use. Duncan is no different.
I pretty much agree, and I am no troll.
Americans do not want their heroes tarnished. They mean so much to their society.
Unfortunately EVERY SINGLE TIME in my life when something in sports is too good to be true, illegal drugs/cheating has been involved.
Duncan went from COOKED and basically retired 3 years ago to playing like prime Tim Duncan again. At age 37.
People say 'well he doesn't rely on athleticism'. Horse Shit. He heavily relies on athleticism to play. He is 7 foot tall and plays 80-100 time a season, running, jumping and various other athletics movements all game. At age 37.
I heavily suspect him and Bryant of using PEDs.
I don't want to suspect that.
But the past and present tells me otherwise.
G-train
05-26-2013, 09:44 PM
He had a persistent knee injury.
That got better as he got older?
I am in my 30's and played ball my whole life. I know 1000's of ballers.
Not one had a persistent knee injury in their mid 30's that IMPROVED.
tgan3
05-26-2013, 09:46 PM
hes on young 20 year old pu55y
I pretty much agree, and I am no troll.
Americans do not want their heroes tarnished. They mean so much to their society.
Unfortunately EVERY SINGLE TIME in my life when something in sports is too good to be true, illegal drugs/cheating has been involved.
Duncan went from COOKED and basically retired 3 years ago to playing like prime Tim Duncan again. At age 37.
People say 'well he doesn't rely on athleticism'. Horse Shit. He heavily relies on athleticism to play. He is 7 foot tall and plays 80-100 time a season, running, jumping and various other athletics movements all game. At age 37.
I heavily suspect him and Bryant of using PEDs.
I don't want to suspect that.
But the past and present tells me otherwise.
I don't want to either, it would feel really bad if any of my favorite NBA or MLB players took steroids (so far, none have been revealed to be juicing). Who do you think is clean? JJ Barea must be clean lol
I would also say it's extremely likely both Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are clean, since both of them brought up that many NBA players juiced (why would they do this if it could get themselves in trouble?)
G-train
05-26-2013, 10:05 PM
Well I wouldn't be surprised if there is an extensive illegal drug trade in HS and college sports, and probably all through the NBA.
I'd say most are taking something illegal, hard to define who exactly. It would be mostly for offseason training and recovery.
It's sad but most of the all time great athletes I grew up with, and all their awesome athletic exploits, are now tarnished by drugs.
jl1718
05-26-2013, 10:32 PM
I pretty much agree, and I am no troll.
Americans do not want their heroes tarnished. They mean so much to their society.
Unfortunately EVERY SINGLE TIME in my life when something in sports is too good to be true, illegal drugs/cheating has been involved.
Duncan went from COOKED and basically retired 3 years ago to playing like prime Tim Duncan again. At age 37.
People say 'well he doesn't rely on athleticism'. Horse Shit. He heavily relies on athleticism to play. He is 7 foot tall and plays 80-100 time a season, running, jumping and various other athletics movements all game. At age 37.
I heavily suspect him and Bryant of using PEDs.
I don't want to suspect that.
But the past and present tells me otherwise.I'm a Spurs fan and I have thought the same since around January. Guys don't do PED's anymore to build muscle, they use it too recover. Reduced minutes have certainly helped but, they can't help this much.
I don't know how the NBA gets a free pass on PED's but they have. Nobody in the media even wants to think about it.
Sharmer
05-26-2013, 10:39 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
He's just cut weight.
Doesn't look like he's on anything.
iDunkOnFatKids
05-26-2013, 10:42 PM
Multiple sources tell me that he is on a steady diet of protein, carbs(both simple and complex!!!) and fat.
fpliii
05-26-2013, 10:58 PM
Well I wouldn't be surprised if there is an extensive illegal drug trade in HS and college sports, and probably all through the NBA.
I'd say most are taking something illegal, hard to define who exactly. It would be mostly for offseason training and recovery.
It's sad but most of the all time great athletes I grew up with, and all their awesome athletic exploits, are now tarnished by drugs.
The bolded is something I'll never mind. I couldn't care less whether a drug or procedure is banned by the league, as long as it'll prolong an athlete's career and keep him/her healthy. Using something during the season to enhance performance isn't something I'm in favor of, however use of PEDs for healing is something I always have supported and always will support.
Troutfisch
05-26-2013, 11:04 PM
Tim Duncan is great on and off the court - if more young players modeled their game after his the league would be all the better.
SnakePlissken
05-26-2013, 11:12 PM
He's not on anything. That's ridiculous. He's dropped weight and got into great shape. He's just taken care of his health and has been fortunate to stay healthy.
NBASTATMAN
05-26-2013, 11:19 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
No ones knees get better as they get older. Duncan looks better physically at 37 than he has in the last five years. Dude is on something and no one can deny that he is running and moving like he is a 30 year old... Dude could barely move a couple of years ago...All of a sudden he is making moves like PRIME TIME DUNCAN...
NBASTATMAN
05-26-2013, 11:22 PM
Anyone that denies NBA players use PEDs is a certifiable dumb ass.
this
I would say at least 50 percent of players use
HarryCallahan
05-26-2013, 11:37 PM
I pretty much agree, and I am no troll.
Americans do not want their heroes tarnished. They mean so much to their society.
Unfortunately EVERY SINGLE TIME in my life when something in sports is too good to be true, illegal drugs/cheating has been involved.
Duncan went from COOKED and basically retired 3 years ago to playing like prime Tim Duncan again. At age 37.
People say 'well he doesn't rely on athleticism'. Horse Shit. He heavily relies on athleticism to play. He is 7 foot tall and plays 80-100 time a season, running, jumping and various other athletics movements all game. At age 37.
I heavily suspect him and Bryant of using PEDs.
I don't want to suspect that.
But the past and present tells me otherwise.
Right so hundreds of people a year take these drugs and not one, not ONE has said anything? Not some dumbass like JR Smith or a disgruntled waived player? No nurse looking for a tabloid payday? No lab tech looking for Twitter infamy?
You're retarded son. Maybe some players take P.E.D's but there is no way an institutionalization of PED culture in the NBA.
HarryCallahan
05-26-2013, 11:40 PM
Nobodies knees get better as they get older. Duncan looks better physically at 37 than he has in the last five years. Dude is on something and no one can deny that he is running and moving like he is a 30 year old... Dude could barely move a couple of years ago...All of a sudden he is making moves like PRIME TIME DUNCAN...
He lost a ton of weight dumbass. How about you drop 30lbs of your fat ass and see how much easier it is to move.
NBASTATMAN
05-26-2013, 11:41 PM
I pretty much agree, and I am no troll.
Americans do not want their heroes tarnished. They mean so much to their society.
Unfortunately EVERY SINGLE TIME in my life when something in sports is too good to be true, illegal drugs/cheating has been involved.
Duncan went from COOKED and basically retired 3 years ago to playing like prime Tim Duncan again. At age 37.
People say 'well he doesn't rely on athleticism'. Horse Shit. He heavily relies on athleticism to play. He is 7 foot tall and plays 80-100 time a season, running, jumping and various other athletics movements all game. At age 37.
I heavily suspect him and Bryant of using PEDs.
I don't want to suspect that.
But the past and present tells me otherwise.
:cheers:
With Kobe I have suspicions but it may be possible that he doesn't use them. Cuz lets face it the guy is just a MANIAC and works tirelessly to stay in shape.. Duncan looked like he was done for a couple of years now.. Kobe hasn't
NBASTATMAN
05-26-2013, 11:48 PM
He lost a ton of weight dumbass. How about you drop 30lbs of your fat ass and see how much easier it is to move.
He didn't drop thirty lbs off of his frame you imbecile ,,,
iamgine
05-26-2013, 11:53 PM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
Kareem had also played thousands more minutes than Duncan when he's 37
tpols
05-27-2013, 12:04 AM
Right so hundreds of people a year take these drugs and not one, not ONE has said anything? Not some dumbass like JR Smith or a disgruntled waived player? No nurse looking for a tabloid payday? No lab tech looking for Twitter infamy?
You're retarded son. Maybe some players take P.E.D's but there is no way an institutionalization of PED culture in the NBA.
Baseball players did it for DECADES before people started snitchin.
And that's because records were being broken that directly correlated with the strength gains off the roads. No matter how many you take as a bballer, you still have to be a great great player to lead a team to a title.
The shit guys are on now JR smith wouldn't even be able to pronounce.
HarryCallahan
05-27-2013, 12:42 AM
He didn't drop thirty lbs off of his frame you imbecile ,,,
It was adjusted ratio for your 500lbs lard ass frame you imbecile ,,,,
NustABut
05-27-2013, 12:42 AM
Duncan attributes this "second wind" of his career to losing 15 pounds in the past off season that alleviated knee, back and ankle problems which all would bother a professional athlete. I am assuming he chose to stick to that lighter playing weight. He looks physically better, like 2006-7 Duncan.
As someone who has lost 30 pounds over the last year and a half, I cannot believe I didn't try to lose weight earlier. Simple movements are so much easier and more coordinated, let alone playing basketball. I jump higher, quicker and with much less effort.
This is from a casual player of basketball, and you translate that to a pro athlete, 15 pounds lost for a guy like Tim Duncan would definitely help him play better.
This doesn't mean I don't suspect some extra "help" however. These guys go through things physically that shouldn't be possible. PED's nowadays are basically for recovery.
LBJMVP
05-27-2013, 12:48 AM
what is tim duncan on?
he is on the court busting his ass every day.
what are you on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U
lmao at the commercial looking back at it.
HarryCallahan
05-27-2013, 12:52 AM
Baseball players did it for DECADES before people started snitchin.
And that's because records were being broken that directly correlated with the strength gains off the roads. No matter how many you take as a bballer, you still have to be a great great player to lead a team to a title.
The shit guys are on now JR smith wouldn't even be able to pronounce.
They didn't have twitter back then and steroids weren't a thang. Everyone from Arnold and Sly to Macho Man and the Hulkster were taking them at the time and nobody cared because the media and congress hadn't gotten in on it yet.
Magic 32
05-27-2013, 12:56 AM
PED's nowadays are basically for recovery.
:facepalm
Cali Syndicate
05-27-2013, 03:41 AM
No ones knees get better as they get older. Duncan looks better physically at 37 than he has in the last five years. Dude is on something and no one can deny that he is running and moving like he is a 30 year old... Dude could barely move a couple of years ago...All of a sudden he is making moves like PRIME TIME DUNCAN...
Lost like 20 pounds the last two seasons, fit, fundamentally sound. Any questions?
KOBE143
05-27-2013, 04:28 AM
GOAT PF and 2nd best player of the 00's decade behind Kobe FACT.
agree :applause:
NumberSix
05-27-2013, 06:48 AM
Tim Duncan murders prostitutes in the off season.
Sharmer
05-27-2013, 06:49 AM
He's skin and bones.
NBASTATMAN
05-27-2013, 09:01 AM
GOAT PF and best player since Michael Jordan. FACT.
Duncan and Kobe are close but if Duncan wins his 5th ring this year than it's no longer close and Duncan would be over Kobe imo. At this point I would take Kobe's career over Duncan's..
:eek:
Flash31
05-27-2013, 10:08 AM
anyone that denies ALL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES AROUND THE WORLD use PEDs is a certifiable dumb ass.
fixed that for you, SCRUB.
Fact,look at the most heavily scrutinized,managed,most secure testing in the World,the OLYMPICS
NOBODY CAUGHT Marion Jones,Lance Armstrong
after a decade,Lance Armstrong was on peds for over a decade and yet everybody thought he was clean,
to put in perspective how bad ped use is,armstrong the num 1 cycler was using peds,the num 2 cycler,num 3 ,num 4,num 5 cycler were all using peds
When he got stripped of his medals,the organization couldnt even give it to the next person in those races or the 5th best,practically everybody was on peds,
then you look at the nfl,Terrell Owens,Chad Johnson,Vick,McNabb,get busted
Adrian Peterson comes back from an acl tear and runs even faster and more explosive in a span of 5 months
Manny Pacquiao refused RANDOM Drug Tests and wanted a cutoff date for testing and to be notified when the testing happens,and now bc he got knocked out he wants to drug test his opponents and institute testing
JJ Redick went from 5'10 160 lbs to 230 pounds of a brick house in a span of 2-3 years,that whole 2009 Magic team somehow gained 20-50 pounds of muscle in 2-4 years,
Turkgolu,Reddick,Rashard,Dwight,THEIR WHOLE STARTING 5
kOBE IN 3 MONTHS WENT FROM 205-225 OF SOLID mUSCLE IN 3 months,Blake Griifin went from 230 to 260,
NO Person alive can gain 20-30 pounds of pure muscle in 2-3 months,and have even less bodyfat while already having low bodyfat and isnt exactly a toothpick, without being on something
LAZERUSS
05-27-2013, 11:25 AM
Only player comparable at 37 is Kareem, except for the rebounding which at 8 is very low considering there were much more misses to rebound in the 80's.
TD avg 10 a game in 30 minutes in a league that avg 82 FGA per game is INSANE, compared to 84-85 (when Kareem was 37) where league avg was 90 shots per game.
Kareems REB % in 33 mins = 13%
Duncan in 30 mins = 19%:wtf:
then to avg 3 blocks in 30 MINS in a 82 shot per game league :biggums:
In 5 prior seasons (07-08 thru 11-12) he only avg 1.7 blk while on average playing 1 more minute per game. He avg under 2 a game when he was 31 and played 34 mins per game!
Well, we will never know how Chamberlain would have played at age 37. However, at age 36 1/2, and in 43.2 mpg, he led the NBA in rebounding, was voted first-team all-defense, shot a still-record .727 from the field, averaged 5.4 bpg (and likely led the league), averaged 20 ppg on an .836 FG% against 6-11 HOFer Bob Lanier in six h2h games,, outshot a prime Kareem in six h2h games, .737 to .450, came in 4th in the MVP voting, led his team to a 60-22 record and a trip to the Finals, played 47.2 mpg in 17 playoff games, averaged 22.5 rpg in the post-season (in a post-season NBA that averaged 50.6 rpg) and in his very last game of his career, he scored 23 points, on 9-16 shooting, with 21 rebounds (and against HOFer Willis Reed BTW.)
And, as a sidenote, and a very little known fact, Wilt was the oldest player to ever score 60+ point in a game, which he accomplished twice, at the age of 33 (and his 66 point came on 29-35 shooting, which is the all-time record for FG% efficiency in a 60+ point game.)
BTW, he had teams making legitimate offers in his 40's, and even at age 50.
Kblaze8855
05-27-2013, 01:05 PM
Ive seen this type of thing before. It doesnt always show in the stats but the reason is basketball based.
As great rim protectors get older many of them lose a bit of mobility....which causes them to allow more drives. Instead of being quick enough to rotate to prevent drives they instead become great at stopping people when they get there. Duncan has also become great at the flat footed blocks when a guy is on the way up in traffic. Added to the fact that he knows he might play 25-30 minutes many nights he doesnt have to concede baskets he might in his prime when he knew his team needed 40 minutes a night from him.
The combo of less speed to prevent drives from happening, increased skill/timing due to years of playing, and being able to go all out for short periods of time instead of rationing fouls will increase blocked shot numbers.
Kinda like how Zo had his 3 best shot blocking years per minute in his last 3 seasons. He was at 5 per 36 in 06. Give a shot blocker less time so he can afford to challenge everything....and reduce his ability to rotate and prevent drives...so guys meet him at the rim instead of never driving in the first place....added to that vet craftiness many bigmen get as they age....
More blocks. Doesnt happen in all cases....but watching Duncan that feels like whats happening.
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