If Heat are a great team, why do they need to Flop?

[talkingconch]

I have never seen guys like:

Jordan
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Shaq

flop or sell blatantly when the replay shows. Lebron and Wade? Sell like crazy. Worst part is Lebron is delusional to this, while already ruining his image with 'The Decision'. Nothing to argue here either.

[PJR]

So you can cry about it.

[talkingconch]

..

what?

[tmacattack33]

I have never seen guys like:

Jordan
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Shaq

flop or sell blatantly when the replay shows. Lebron and Wade? Sell like crazy. Worst part is Lebron is delusional to this, while already ruining his image with 'The Decision'. Nothing to argue here either.

I see Kobe draw fouls on jump shots by flailing around pretending he got hit all the time.

About 95% of the time Shaq fell trying to draw a charge musta been a flop since there were about 2 people in the league who could make his 350 lb self actually fall.

MJ got help like no other from the refs.

And I never saw Bird or Magic play so no comment on them.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

I have never seen guys like:


Kobe
Bird
Magic
Shaq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHv9CYCGglQ

[TylerOO]

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/247644/flags/LL

[ThatsGame]

A Lakers fan talking about flopping. :facepalm

[talkingconch]

Yea I know Kobe flails his arms alot and complains about the call. But he doesn't have a rep for that. wade does. Lebron is beginning to. Even Reggie Miller pointed it out.


http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/247644/flags/LL

Showing 1 gif won't offset the hundreds of LeFlops'

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Pacers:Heat Free throw disparity

Game 1 44:28
Game 2 32:26
Game 3 32:25

Total 108:79


Paul George a "forced star"
3.5 FTA regular season.
7.6 FTA in the playoffs.

[Rondo]

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a Kobe stan v LeBron stan royal rumble :facepalm

Every player will have flopped/sold contact at one point. We get that. Just so happens that Miami is riddled with them currently and it makes them extremely unlikeable considering the ridiculous talent they possess.

http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/boshflop.gif

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/882/814/WadeFlop_original.gif?1369622306

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

There's also like a thousand Battier flops... per game!

[comerb]

Showing 1 gif won't offset the hundreds of LeFlops'

Does a fantastic job of making you look like a dipshit though.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Every team and player flops.

Ya'll just remember all the Heat ones cause ya'll salty as **** that you don't live in Miami :roll:

[Rondo]

Every team and player flops.

Ya'll just remember all the Heat ones cause ya'll salty as **** that you don't live in Miami :roll:

Like the majority of Heat fans then? :rolleyes:

Why the f*ck would I want to live in Miami, exactly?

[Ai2death]

Does a fantastic job of making you look like a dipshit though.

Actually makes yourself look worse. Considering kobe has been in the league what 17 years and lebron has just as many, if not more flops. Also what makes it worse is lebron is a big solid dude who falls in the breeze and also publicly denied ever flopping :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[jzek]

Why do the Spurs?

[Rondo]

Actually makes yourself look worse. Considering kobe has been in the league what 17 years and lebron has just as many, if not more flops. Also what makes it worse is lebron is a big solid dude who falls in the breeze and also publicly denied ever flopping :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

I'm no Kobe fan but it speaks volumes that when you search "Kobe flop" the one posted above appears numerous times. You do the same thing with LeBron and there's hundreds.

Very true with the point about LeBron's physicality too. He's an absolute beast when he wants to be.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I'm no Kobe fan but it speaks volumes that when you search "Kobe flop" the one posted above appears numerous times. You do the same thing with LeBron and there's hundreds.

Very true with the point about LeBron's physicality too. He's an absolute beast when he wants to be.

I'm not sure why it is but people aren't obsessed with making a collection of Kobe flops. Kobe definitely does flop though. I was just watching this video in the morning and couldn't believe I had never heard of this Kobe flop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R26UBSZXhR8

And Lebron used to flop in Cleveland too but people never made videos of him while he was there.

[diamenz]

flopping is part of the game now, unfortunately. some players have class and don't do it while others do and get laughed at. they don't care though - stern allows it, the refs fall for it and the players keep bringing in the money.

[LBJMVP]

Pacers:Heat Free throw disparity

Game 1 44:28
Game 2 32:26
Game 3 32:25

Total 108:79


Paul George a "forced star"
3.5 FTA regular season.
7.6 FTA in the playoffs.


once again... since when does free throw shooting disperity have anything to do with bad calls and flopping?


how old you?

[tikay0]

It's pretty fuggin sad really. Lebron is the biggest flopper amongst superstars the NBA has ever seen. :facepalm

[Magic 32]

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/247644/flags/LL

That's not a flop. That's called avoiding making a foul.

[LBJMVP]

That's not a flop. That's called avoiding making a foul.

eh... thats what i thought at first. but there is no way lebron caused him to have enough momentum to have to fly like that.

he could have just stopped moving.

[Leftimage]

Yea I know Kobe flails his arms alot and complains about the call. But he doesn't have a rep for that. wade does. Lebron is beginning to. Even Reggie Miller pointed it out.



Showing 1 gif won't offset the hundreds of LeFlops'

Actually, it did just that for me. Flopping once suggests you've done it many times. And the point is punctuated by the fact the GIF features Lebron.

Admit it, you had never seen the gif and now you're a little uneasy.

Feeling a little faggitty too perhaps.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Actually, it did just that for me. Flopping once suggests you've done it many times. And the point is punctuated by the fact the GIF features Lebron.

Admit it, you had never seen the gif and now you're a little uneasy.

Feeling a little faggitty too perhaps.

http://uppix.net/e/5/1/202957d09500282c3dcb4fecb37ab.gif

[#number6ix#]

Like the majority of Heat fans then? :rolleyes:

Why the f*ck would I want to live in Miami, exactly?

Why wouldn't you wanna live in miami great weather, great clubs, bad ass women,and fantastic beaches with more fine ass women... What more could a guy want:confusedshrug: I'm blessed and I know it

[Jax]

[/B]
Why wouldn't you wanna live in miami great weather, great clubs, bad ass women,and fantastic beaches with more fine ass women... What more could a guy want:confusedshrug: I'm blessed and I know it
He's a ****, what would you expect? :facepalm

[Sharmer]

Celtics and Lakers are bigger floppers, can't think of another team team that doesnt flop.

[Alan Ogg]

Yea I know Kobe flails his arms alot and complains about the call. But he doesn't have a rep for that. wade does. Lebron is beginning to. Even Reggie Miller pointed it out.



Showing 1 gif won't offset the hundreds of LeFlops'

You said you've never seen Kobe flop. Someone shows you a Kobe flop and ...:facepalm Let the hate flow.

And everyone knows Kobe sells contact on drives. That's just part of the game . A lot of high profile players flop / "sell" contact.

[Bandito]

I'm not sure why it is but people aren't obsessed with making a collection of Kobe flops. Kobe definitely does flop though. I was just watching this video in the morning and couldn't believe I had never heard of this Kobe flop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R26UBSZXhR8

And Lebron used to flop in Cleveland too but people never made videos of him while he was there.Flop? don't you see Hill put his foot behind him making him fall down? :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Nash]

It's because your eyes are looking for them.

[JoHnNyBoXeR]

Like it or not, flopping is part of the game

[Flush]

Better question is, If Lakers are a great team, why do they need ref's help to make into the playoffs? :lol

[JoHnNyBoXeR]

Like the majority of Heat fans then? :rolleyes:

Why the f*ck would I want to live in Miami, exactly?


I take it u have never partied on ocean drive, south beach Miami. If u have u wouldn't ask that question my man

[mlh1981]

I'm so over it, but there was a time when Vlade Divac would do it, and I thought it was sound stragegy, but that day has come and gone.

[Derka]

Every team flops.

Just understand this one single fact of NBA basketball and you'll learn to just laugh at it like the rest of us sane people.

[ripthekik]

Every team flops.

Just understand this one single fact of NBA basketball and you'll learn to just laugh at it like the rest of us sane people.
Some teams flop more.
But the question is legit, if you're the best player in the NBA, why do you need to flop like a little girl :oldlol:

[Derka]

Some teams flop more.
But the question is legit, if you're the best player in the NBA, why do you need to flop like a little girl :oldlol:

No, its not a legit question and its irrelevant who flops more or less...all are equally foolish and equally laughable. Splitting hairs between some floppers and others when they all do it is a phenomenon brewed up in the deranged minds of internet fanboys and haters and nothing else.

[hitmanyr2k]

I have never seen guys like:

Jordan
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Shaq

flop or sell blatantly when the replay shows. Lebron and Wade? Sell like crazy. Worst part is Lebron is delusional to this, while already ruining his image with 'The Decision'. Nothing to argue here either.

Kobe flailed constantly and screamed bloody murder to add the extra theatrics. He also invented the bitchmade rip-thru move and passed the baton to Durant to carry it on.

Jordan, Bird and Magic were from an era where they played like men. And they were too skilled to have to resort to flops. The only guy who truly flopped on offense back in that era was Reggie Miller where he'd kick out his leg on the three pointer. It took the NBA forever to outlaw that.

Shaq flopped on defense probably once or twice in his entire career and it was during his twilight years...looked horrible when he did it too. A man of his size couldn't sell a flop if he got hit by a mack truck.

[allball]

I have never seen guys like:

Jordan
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Shaq

flop or sell blatantly when the replay shows. Lebron and Wade? Sell like crazy. Worst part is Lebron is delusional to this, while already ruining his image with 'The Decision'. Nothing to argue here either.

Magic was one of the great floppers of all time. as far as the Celtics and Lakers they were loaded with floppers especially the Celtics.

[Nebraskanball]

http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/247644/flags/LL
Is that all you got? Wade, Lebron, Bosh, and Battier all flop worse than that 3 times every game.

And OP, it's because Lebron is soft. If you can't guard the guy, play dirty.
*And they aren't a "great team."

[Trollsmasher]

LeBron is the most hit superstar in the league while barely getting any calls at all lately. I would exaggerate a contact from time to time too.

Also the person with the most flops in this series os Paul George.

[tpols]

There should be a new statistic.. Flop Rate.

(Total flops/total possesions) X 100

Miami would blow away the league average.

[tpols]

No, its not a legit question and its irrelevant who flops more or less...all are equally foolish and equally laughable. Splitting hairs between some floppers and others when they all do it is a phenomenon brewed up in the deranged minds of internet fanboys and haters and nothing else.
It's not splitting hairs at all..

Watching your Boston celtics a few years back the only person who consistently flops is Paul pierce. KG doesn't flop.. When he misses he misses. Ray Allen doesn't flop. Perkins didn't know how to flop. Rondo sometimes would but not that bad. Overall not too bad.

On the Heat? Wade is king flopper.. He flops every single time he penetrates and is beyond shameless with it. Bosh has had some of the worst flops I've ever seen. I remember when he cried to the media that omer ask shouldn't dive for loose balls because it was dangerous in one of the games he had a gif worthy flop against boozer. Head snap back and fall to the ground. Lebron flops disgustingly and only started doing it when he came to the heat. Battier invented the flop. They are way way worse..

Who has the gif of Tim Duncan screaming STOP FLOPPING to the heat from a year or two ago? Coming from someone with Parker and Manu on their team, that's pretty mind blowing.

[gasolina]

To answer seriously, I think it's thir lack of size. In the 90's/early 2000's, a team featuring Shane Battier and Chris Bosh asyour 4/5 would be annihilated. Defensively, Battier flops a lot since he gets overmatched easily by the bigger 4's. Especially during rebounds. I think they're also alowed to get away with more holding/pushing for the very sam reason.

On the offense, I think Lebron and Wade are just bitches.

[All Net]

New flash

Every team flops now...

[Nebraskanball]

nm

[KOBE143]

They're not great team tho.. They're just winning because they're super stacked compare to the rest of the league and also the injury to key players of other teams that can at least compete them like the Bulls.. Even with all this advantage, they still need to cheat just to win cheap ring like flopping, one sided reffing, dirty plays, cheap shot that makes refs to pretend nothing happen. etc.

People will not remember this cHeat team as a great team instead people will remember them as the most undeserving champs of all time in short David Stern Rigged Team.. Wish Miami Heat change their name into Miami Stern when David Stern retire to honor his accomplishment for that team and also they need to retire Joey Crawford number in the near future for his unequaled contribution in that team so no one can use his number again in that arena just like MJ..

[knickscity]

They're not great team tho.. They're just winning because they're super stacked compare to the rest of the league and also the injury to key players of other teams that can at least compete them like the Bulls.. Even with all this advantage, they still need to cheat just to win cheap ring like flopping, one sided reffing, dirty plays, cheap shot that makes refs to pretend nothing happen. etc.

People will not remember this cHeat team as a great team instead people will remember them as the most undeserving champs of all time in short David Stern Rigged Team.. Wish Miami Heat change their name into Miami Stern when David Stern retire to honor his accomplishment for that team and also they need to retire Joey Crawford number in the near future for his unequaled contribution in that team so no one can use his number again in that arena just like MJ..
That would probably define why they are great in this era.

Every great team has that advantage, that's why they are great.

[LBJMVP]

http://uppix.net/e/5/1/202957d09500282c3dcb4fecb37ab.gif

that isnt a flop.

look at his right left. it almost bent straight sideways, and would have if he landed straight on it so he had to fall.

[Da_Bulls_23]

That would probably define why they are great in this era.

Every great team has that advantage, that's why they are great.

This team is NOT great as a unit. The only impressive or "great" thing they have done since joining is the winning streak this past regular season. Other than that they are just taking advantage of today's fast & soft style of play.

It's obvious the NBA is more oriented with an uptempo style and is a guards league now. That being said, physical play is not what it used to be. Fouls are called for any contact (or no contact), players cant even say anything without getting a quick Tech, coaches/players fined for any comments re refs/calls. I don't blame the players for it, I blame the league & Stern for letting this beautiful game lose part of its history.

[NumberSix]

The Knicks suck. That much we can all agree on.

[RRR3]

Kobe was voted one of the top 15 floppers in the NBA in 2011 by a poll of NBA players http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1104/nba.biggest.flopper/content.13.html.


Of current Heat players, only Battier is included on the list. Don't you guys like using polls to back your arguments? :confusedshrug:


I saw Kobe commit a pretty egregious flop this year (against either Clippers or Cavs? can't remember). I was sure someone would make a video, but no one did.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Is that all you got? Wade, Lebron, Bosh, and Battier all flop worse than that 3 times every game.

And OP, it's because Lebron is soft. If you can't guard the guy, play dirty.
*And they aren't a "great team."

http://uppix.net/e/5/1/202957d09500282c3dcb4fecb37ab.gif

[3LiftHeatCurse]

I saw Kobe commit a pretty egregious flop this year (against either Clippers or Cavs? can't remember). I was sure someone would make a video, but no one did.

Nobody made a video because nobody really gives a chit about Kobe Bryant. He's a footnote in the back of our minds along with other players like Chris Paul, etc.

We're forced to hate on Kobe because of his retarded fans who keep trying to prop him up to places he has no business being.

Meanwhile, you have fans that are so salty and jealous of this historic assemblage of talent on the Miami Heat, that they just have to catalogue every LeBron, Wade, Bosh mistake or flop. They have a collection of them in their hard drives and they trade them like trading cards while they talk about how the refs rig the NBA to help the Miami Cheat win games, then they log off the internet and go to sleep in their 7 year old Kobe jerseys.

[RRR3]

Nobody made a video because nobody really gives a chit about Kobe Bryant. He;s a footnote in the back of our minds along with other players like Chris Paul, etc.

We're forced to hate on Kobe because of his retarded fans who keep trying to prop him up to places he has no business being.
This is faaaaaaaaar from true.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

This is faaaaaaaaar from true.

Ok, Laker fans are obssessed with him.

But the rest of us don't really give a chit. Only time I rip on Kobe is when I'm forced to. Otherwise, I rather talk about Javale McGee's real IQ or whatever Ron Artest thinks today.

[RRR3]

Ok, Laker fans are obssessed with him.

But the rest of us don't really give a chit. Only time I rip on Kobe is when I'm forced to. Otherwise, I rather talk about Javale McGee's real IQ or whatever Ron Artest thinks today.
Nah, Kobe is, along with LeBron and Jordan, probably one of the 3 most popular NBA players ever (Definitely currently).

[3LiftHeatCurse]

probably one of the 3 most popular NBA players ever (Definitely currently).

:roll: Clueless marketing in China doesn't count. Kobe is one of the most polarizing players, for every fan who likes him, there's another who doesn't. Shaq was and is still more popular than Kobe ever was. We can fire off a bunch of names who were/are more popular.

If it's the Rape Case in Colorado, or the way he feuded with Phil and Shaq, or him being arrested and snitching on irrelevant things his teammates do, or his ballhogging ways, or any number of other reasons, there's a lot of people who can't stand Kobe.

[RRR3]

:roll: Clueless marketing in China doesn't count. Kobe is one of the most polarizing players, for every fan who likes him, there's another who doesn't. If it's the Rape Case in Colorado, or the way he feuded with Phil and Shaq, or his ballhogging ways, or any number of other reasons.
Yeah, and a lot of people hate LeBron. LeBron is more hated than Kobe. Kobe is very popular, dude.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Yeah, and a lot of people hate LeBron. LeBron is more hated than Kobe. Kobe is very popular, dude.

Kobe is very hated, dude.

[cltcfn2924]

Magic was one of the great floppers of all time. as far as the Celtics and Lakers they were loaded with floppers especially the Celtics.


You are completely out of your mind. Celts and Lakers of the 80's gave and took beatings that would have Lebron, Wade and Kobe crying.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

You are completely out of your mind. Celts and Lakers of the 80's gave and took beatings that would have Lebron, Wade and Kobe crying.

http://uppix.net/e/5/1/202957d09500282c3dcb4fecb37ab.gif

[ripthekik]

lol, always posting the same 1 or 2 gifs that is not even clear whether it is a flop or not.

On the other hand:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lebron-flop.gif

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1125565/flop.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/836554/jamesflop.gif

http://i.minus.com/iJqq4CKI2FUv2.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1115960/lebronflop2.gif

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Bron.gif

[PickernRoller]

Like the majority of Heat fans then? :rolleyes:

Why the f*ck would I want to live in Miami, exactly?

That shithole lol? I live, well I won't say where I live in FL but Miami is a shithole. That's saying something when you lived 10 years in LA too. Don't sweat it with pretenders. Most probably have never visited Miami and are alts and trolls.

[talamo]

lol, always posting the same 1 or 2 gifs that is not even clear whether it is a flop or not.

On the other hand:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lebron-flop.gif

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1125565/flop.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/836554/jamesflop.gif

http://i.minus.com/iJqq4CKI2FUv2.gif

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1115960/lebronflop2.gif

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Bron.gif

:biggums:
Compare any of these to Kobe's so called "flops" and its obvious King James is a far better flopper hands down

[NBASTATMAN]

:biggums:
Compare any of these to Kobe's so called "flops" and its obvious King James is a far better flopper hands down


Gotta admit Lebron is def a better flopper than Kobe... Dude is looking DOWN RIGHT EUROPEAN on some of those flops...:bowdown:

[MavsSuperFan]

lol, always posting the same 1 or 2 gifs that is not even clear whether it is a flop or not.

On the other hand:


http://i.minus.com/iJqq4CKI2FUv2.gif


Fisher is embarrassed for Lebron.

[#number6ix#]

That shithole lol? I live, well I won't say where I live in FL but Miami is a shithole. That's saying something when you lived 10 years in LA too. Don't sweat it with pretenders. Most probably have never visited Miami and are alts and trolls.
Like all cities Miami has some rough spots(Liberty city, Overtown, Opa locka) but its definitely not a shit hole

[talkingconch]

:roll: Clueless marketing in China doesn't count. Kobe is one of the most polarizing players, for every fan who likes him, there's another who doesn't. Shaq was and is still more popular than Kobe ever was. We can fire off a bunch of names who were/are more popular.

If it's the Rape Case in Colorado, or the way he feuded with Phil and Shaq, or him being arrested and snitching on irrelevant things his teammates do, or his ballhogging ways, or any number of other reasons, there's a lot of people who can't stand Kobe.
Severe delusion is not a good thing. Walk outside for once fella.

[talkingconch]

http://uppix.net/e/5/1/202957d09500282c3dcb4fecb37ab.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gts0TlE4TnQ

MVP! MVP! MVP!

[hitmanyr2k]

Like all cities Miami has some rough spots(Liberty city, Overtown, Opa locka) but its definitely not a shit hole

Nah, Miami is indeed a shithole. Most of the people there can't stand each other, traffic everywhere, and the combination of heat, humidity, and mosquitos will drive you crazy. The mosquitos there are so big and rampant they may as well be the state bird. I prefer Orlando and St. Pete, FL whenever I choose to visit the state. The more south you go in FL the worse it gets.

[NBAller]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.