2001 Lakers vs 2013 Heat

[juju151111]

Can the Heat stop a prime Shaq and Kobe in his breakout year. If Roy freaking Hibbert can averge 20/10 what would prime Shaq do.:oldlol:

[Bandito]

Nobody can stop Shaq. The only hope is to stop the role players and Kobe and hope Lebron averages 30+ pts or Wade is healthy in this hypothetical situation.

I don't think a healthy 2013 Wade will stop 01 Kobe but will slow him down considerably and the Lakers role players has always sucked ass. But the only way to slow down Shaq is to have a HOF caliber player to barely slow him down.

[dh144498]

and imagine what 2001 Kobe would do. every team he faced were top 10 in defense that year. 1, 5, 7, 9th in defense.
29-7-6 on 47% FG. :bowdown:

[Anfernee]

Shaq would destroy this Heat team, with no inside presence.

[Shade8780]

This is just gonna turn into another Kobe vs LeBron argument :facepalm Fvck stans

[Bandito]

This is just gonna turn into another Kobe vs LeBron argument :facepalm Fvck stans
Lebron and Kobe are not going to defend each other anyways...:lol

[Doranku]

2001 Lakers would sweep this year's Heat. Look what Shaq did that year to DPOY Dikembe.


Now imagine what he would do to Christina Bosh and Birdman. :roll:

[Dragonyeuw]

Shaq alone would destroy the Heat. Then to complement that with the level of play Kobe displayed throughout the 2001 playoffs?! 5 games at most.

[Shepseskaf]

Shaq would destroy this Heat team, with no inside presence.
Pretty much.

LBJ would have to be insane for the series to even be competitive.

[Jameerthefear]

Just close this thread. Roy Hibbert is dominating the Heat right now. a prime Shaq would just... :eek: :eek:

[Jacks3]

and imagine what 2001 Kobe would do. every team he faced were top 10 in defense that year. 1, 5, 7, 9th in defense.
29-7-6 on 47% FG. :bowdown:
Kobe would destroy Wade. Shaq would average 40/15.

It would be a sweep.

[LBJ 23]

2001 Lakers would sweep this year's Heat. Look what Shaq did that year to DPOY Dikembe.


Now imagine what he would do to Christina Bosh and Birdman. :roll:


Excatly. And Lebron is the one who has too stacked team right? Even though Shaq > Wade, Bosh and all the role players together.

Ahh kobe fans, when there's a chance to put down Lebron ''2013 Heat is the most stacked team ever'', but then when thread like this is created which inculdes their hero then Lakers would sweep Heat even though that means that 2001 Kobe had even more stacked team than Lebron this year, considering 2013 Lebron is clearly better player than 2001 Kobe. Kobe fans and their slow brain....

Btw I'm not saying that Lakers wouldn't own Heat, just showing how stupid Kobe fans are.

[K Xerxes]

Hibbert is averaging above 20-10 this series, and he's normally a 12-8 sort of guy. Imagine what prime Shaq would to Bosh, Haslem and Andersen. And if Heat double Shaq (which would still be ineffective), he has Kobe, or even Fisher, Fox, Horry etc to kick out it out to. This would be one of the worst matchups for the Heat, ever.

It would require game 6 LeBron throughout the series to make this slightly competitive. Lakers sweep or at most 5.

[Jacks3]

Excatly. And Lebron is the one who has too stacked team right? Even though Shaq > Wade, Bosh and all the role players together.

Ahh kobe fans, when there's a chance to put down Lebron ''2013 Heat is the most stacked team ever'', but then when thread like this is created which inculdes their hero then Lakers would sweep Heat even though that means that 2001 Kobe had even more stacked team than Lebron this year, considerign 2013 is clearly better player than 2001 Kobe. Kobe fans and their slow brain....

Btw I'm not saying that Lakers wouldn't own Heat, just showing how stupid Kobe fans are.
You're retarded. Kobe was PART of Shaq's supporting cast.

****ing idiot. :oldlol:

[kamil]

Doesn't matter. 91 and 96 Bulls would stomp all over either teams.

MJ > All

Partys over, stans!

[asdf1990]

with shaq they can always resort to "hack a shaq"

[juju151111]

with shaq they can always resort to "hack a shaq"
Yea because nobody ever tried that:facepalm

[kamil]

Yea because nobody ever tried that:facepalm

It never worked well either.

[caliman]

I don't think a healthy 2013 Wade will stop 01 Kobe but will slow him down considerably and the Lakers role players has always sucked ass.


:biggums:

[Doranku]

Excatly. And Lebron is the one who has too stacked team right? Even though Shaq > Wade, Bosh and all the role players together.

Ahh kobe fans, when there's a chance to put down Lebron ''2013 Heat is the most stacked team ever'', but then when thread like this is created which inculdes their hero then Lakers would sweep Heat even though that means that 2001 Kobe had even more stacked team than Lebron this year, considering 2013 Lebron is clearly better player than 2001 Kobe. Kobe fans and their slow brain....

Btw I'm not saying that Lakers wouldn't own Heat, just showing how stupid Kobe fans are.

Your username just says it all. :oldlol:

[dh144498]

Your username just says it all. :oldlol:

LBJ 23. :lol :roll:

[COnDEMnED]

Is this a serious question? Who guards Shaq? Bosh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Is this a serious question? Who guards Shaq? Bosh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Exactly. I can see the Lakers winning in 5. I think Kobe's field percentage stays around a measly 41-42% but he still averages about 24/8/6 and shaq averages a similar statline from the 2000 nba finals: 36/14/4 or something.
Rick Fox would hold Lebron to about a 25/8/6 on about 50% shooting if the referees are from 2001 when the league wasn't as soft as it today.
Wade would average probably 17/5/5 on 45% shooting against a prime kobe. Bosh would be handled pretty well by horace grant and robert horry. Averages 14pg/7 rebounds on 40% shooting. The role players on Miami keep the game close when Kobe and Shaq are sitting but no one can defend Shaq and the team chemistry they had in the playoffs was ridiculous. Derrick Fisher was playing like an all star point guard that postseason.

[PickernRoller]

LOL at this joke of a thread.

The Heat can't beat the 2000-2002 Lakers even if they played twice as better as they did in 2012.

There is a BIG GAP.

[TheMarkMadsen]

01 Lakers are the GOAT playoff team

nobody is beating them :no:

[DaSeba5]

Miami is built for this era where there is a lack of skilled bigs. Obviously prime Shaq would feast on them.

[KBaller33]

Shaq being guarded by Bosh? Lewis? Haslem? Anderson? :roll:

He destroyed DPOY Mutumbo

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Depends on the rules. If the refs let Shaq elbow people in the face and then call touch fouls for him on the other end, then Lakers will probably win it in 6.

[PickernRoller]

Depends on the rules. If the refs let Shaq elbow people in the face and then call touch fouls on him on the other end, then Lakers will probably win it in 6.

Trash post from a trash poster.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Trash post from a trash poster.

Another clown following me around :oldlol: . Here, have a cookie

[Dragonyeuw]

Repeating my earlier comments, Heat in 5. Two of the three best players are on the Lakers, and Shaq would destroy the front line by himself. I mean the Heat's bigs would literally all foul out trying to stop him. And Kobe in 2001 was a legit defensive stopper and would cause 2013 Wade all kinds of problems on both sides of the ball. Role players are a wash, but Shaq is the difference here. The Heat simply have no counter for him, even if we agree that 2013 Lebron neutralizes Kobe's output.

[raprap]

Different eras, different game.

[Ne 1]

Lakers in 4 or 5. Shaq would put up nearly 40/20 a game against Miami's front court and Kobe puts up about 30+/5/5 a game.

[dude77]

Depends on the rules. If the refs let Shaq elbow people in the face and then call touch fouls for him on the other end, then Lakers will probably win it in 6.

lol this .. refs let shaq get away with murder .. it was ridiculous

[francesco totti]

This type of thread is all speculation, and you can only find out how a team fares against another if they play.Until then its speculation, because they never faced each other.

People going on shaq would destroy the heat, but how would shaq fare defensively? I never thought shaq was all that defensively in pick and rolls or rim protection.


Overall, I think Kobe/shaq played together 8 years and won 3 titles. I think Wade/Lebron will beat that, in 4 years they already won 2..and have as many final appearances as kobe/shaq in 8 years

[dude77]

Overall, I think Kobe/shaq played together 8 years and won 3 titles. I think Wade/Lebron will beat that, in 4 years they already won 2..and have as many final appearances as kobe/shaq in 8 years

that's not really the fairest of comparisons though .. a few of those years, kobe was still young and developing .. once he reached another level, then they racked off 4 consecutive appearances just like miami's done .. I'm sure they would've added a couple more appearances at the very least, if not titles also had shaq stayed

[francesco totti]

that's not really the fairest of comparisons though .. a few of those years, kobe was still young and developing .. once he reached another level, then they racked off 4 consecutive appearances just like miami's done .. I'm sure they would've added a couple more appearances at the very least, if not titles also had shaq stayed

I highly doubt, while you argue those years kobe was young and developing...the next years after 2004 Shaq had huge decline in level.
( his downhill actually started with the lakers in 2004 when he lost with Payton/Malone/Kobe).

[ForeverHeat]

Shaq would get his points but Miami would exploit him defensively. Shaq aint guarding Bosh on the perimeter. Lebron has historically dominated Kobe so I think Lebron easily gets the best of that battle. When you look past that Miami has better role players and have great defense. I could see them denying Shaq the ball and being successful in limiting his domination.

Whoever has homecourt wins in 7.

[Ne 1]

Shaq would get his points but Miami would exploit him defensively. Shaq aint guarding Bosh on the perimeter. Lebron has historically dominated Kobe so I think Lebron easily gets the best of that battle. When you look past that Miami has better role players and have great defense. I could see them denying Shaq the ball and being successful in limiting his domination.

Whoever has homecourt wins in 7.
Nope. '01 Kobe > '13 Wade. '01 Shaq would completely obliterate Miami's front line. Fish and Horry knock down shots from the outside. Rick Fox matches up with Bron. Phil > Spoelstra. '01 Shaq and Kobe were the greatest duo in NBA history once they were on the same page that year and the 2 best players in the playoffs that year. They would plain out steam roll Miami's trio.

Lakers in 4 or 5. Diesel easily wins MVP.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

LeBron would shut Shaq down rather easily tbh:confusedshrug:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Heat are a small ball team built to beat the teams in this weak era of centers. If Shaq was in the league, Riley would have built his team differently

[Dragonyeuw]

Different eras, different game.

Doesn't matter. The league is not 'that' different between 2001 and 2013 to a degree where Shaqs dominance is going to be lessened. The reality is that 2013 heat barely beat teams( Spurs and Pacers) that were inferior to the 2001 Lakers, if freakin Roy Hibbert can look like a legit force against the Heat frontline, what the hell would prime Shaq do?

[Dragonyeuw]

I highly doubt, while you argue those years kobe was young and developing...the next years after 2004 Shaq had huge decline in level.
( his downhill actually started with the lakers in 2004 when he lost with Payton/Malone/Kobe).

Shaq was a legit mvp candidate in 2005, and still good enough in 2006 to be a legit contender if paired with 2006 Kobe and the right pieces around them.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Lebron and Kobe are not going to defend each other anyways...:lol
i can see them spending some time on eachother if they are both in their primes.

[inclinerator]

which era? they might call shaq for offensive fouls in this era

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Excatly. And Lebron is the one who has too stacked team right? Even though Shaq > Wade, Bosh and all the role players together.

Ahh kobe fans, when there's a chance to put down Lebron ''2013 Heat is the most stacked team ever'', but then when thread like this is created which inculdes their hero then Lakers would sweep Heat even though that means that 2001 Kobe had even more stacked team than Lebron this year, considering 2013 Lebron is clearly better player than 2001 Kobe. Kobe fans and their slow brain....

Btw I'm not saying that Lakers wouldn't own Heat, just showing how stupid Kobe fans are.
lebron has a super stacked team in one of the weakest eras of the nba.

[Micku]

Shaq would get his points but Miami would exploit him defensively. Shaq aint guarding Bosh on the perimeter. Lebron has historically dominated Kobe so I think Lebron easily gets the best of that battle. When you look past that Miami has better role players and have great defense. I could see them denying Shaq the ball and being successful in limiting his domination.

Whoever has homecourt wins in 7.

Some other teams tried something similar to that. I remember Portland tried to do that with Arvydas Sabonis, who is bigger and stronger than Bosh. He was 7'3 and weight close to 300 lbs. Sabonis had a nice midrange jumper, around 42-43%. Bosh is better tho, and shoots around 48-50% for the last two years in the regular season. 2013 Bosh didn't shoot that much at the 3pt line tho as oppose to his 2014 self. Portland also tried to do pick and rolls against Shaq as well.

The difference is the offensive end. Nobody could really box Shaq out on the rebounds. Maybe Chris Anderson has the best chance. But if you put Chris Anderson in the game, then Shaq would protect the paint more. And if this is the same 2013 team that was injured during the playoffs, then the Lakers would win exploit that more than anybody. If they were healthy, then it'll be a little better with Wade and Bosh being 100%.

Miami's frontline is really weak tho when it comes to defend centers. They would either have to double team or front. Both you have to pick your poison. If they front, then the Lakers would either lob it to Shaq or swing the ball around for Shaq to get back into the post or find an opening. If they double team, then Shaq is a very good passer who could find an opening. And again, if old man Tim Duncan and Roy Hibbert caused the Heat trouble, Shaq would murder them. Their best bet is try to stop the wing players aka Kobe. And they have the perimeter players to slow him down. They could put Wade (better when healthy), LeBron or Battier. It's easier said than done tho, but I think 2013 LBJ could slow down 2001 Kobe.

[Just2McFly]

which era? they might call shaq for offensive fouls in this era
so true....he's not getting away with elbowing defensive players in the face on half of his post ups

[bdreason]

Give me any of the 3-peat Lakers. The Heat would have to be on fire from 3-point land to stand any chance in the series.

[Micku]

Give me any of the 3-peat Lakers. The Heat would have to be on fire from 3-point land to stand any chance in the series.

Yeah. And the Lakers were one of the best defenders at the 3pt line in the playoffs. Keeping teams at 27.1% The Heat were also one of the best at shooting the 3s tho in their playoffs.