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gengiskhan
05-29-2013, 11:39 PM
http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/05/phil-jackson-says-kobe-bryant-is-very-sensitive-to-criticism

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SamuraiSWISH
05-29-2013, 11:42 PM
Probably gives reasoning for Phil's recent flip fop of ... "between MJ and Kobe, I'd flip a coin" statement when in his book he very clearly defines MJ being the better player and leader.

Kobe probably contacted him and let him know of his disappointment. Not all that surprising given their history, and Kobe's sensitivity. I still remember Kobe taking shots in reply to fan letters sent to SLAM magazine circa 2002 / 2003 ish to people who claimed T-Mac > Kobe at the time.

gengiskhan
05-29-2013, 11:48 PM
Probably gives reasoning for Phil's recent flip fop of ... "between MJ and Kobe, I'd flip a coin" statement when in his book he very clearly defines MJ being the better player and leader.

Kobe probably contacted him and let him know of his disappointment. Not all that surprising given their history, and Kobe's sensitivity. I still remember Kobe taking shots in reply to fan letters sent to SLAM magazine circa 2002 / 2003 ish to people who claimed T-Mac > Kobe at the time.

agreed

I think there are some serious INSECURITIES also creeping in behind this kobe's sensitivity issues.

The day in past all-star game when he was mocking LBJ for passing the game winning shot.

this yrs all-star game when he plays the best defense of the whole season in blocking LBJ.

There is one thing trash talking but another thing being INSECURE.

also recently, kobe went on twitter regarding Phil replying to MJ being "better" saying "how it was to play with Shaq his first 7 years"

What kobe dont realize is that the twitter joke is on him.

"kobe has no idea how it is to play the whole career for SCRUB franchise like BULLS that has cocaine addict (woolridge) without any championship DNA"

MJ suffered the 1st 7 yrs on SCRUB franchise & turned them into LAL & BOS like winningest franchises the next 6 yrs

Phil knows this, MJ knows this. Sensitive Kobe twitter's mocking himself about having it easy the whole career as part of the NBA's best winningest franchise!

Magic 32
05-29-2013, 11:56 PM
Nothing new here.

Kobe is probably the most insecure NBA player of all-time.

http://jbsmooth84.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/lebron-james-espn-covo.jpg

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 12:06 AM
http://jbsmooth84.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/lebron-james-espn-covo.jpg

well picturized!

Thats the LEAST insecure player right there.

"EARNED" not give

1 x rookie of the year
4 x season MVP
1 x FMVP.
1 x NBA Champion!

Sarcastic
05-30-2013, 12:26 AM
http://www.albany.com/byesline/check%20my%20stats2.jpg

KingMichael23
05-30-2013, 12:33 AM
well picturized!

Thats the LEAST insecure player right there.

"EARNED" not give

1 x rookie of the year
4 x season MVP
1 x FMVP.
1 x NBA Champion!
Actually, LeBron IS insecure. Kobe earned his.

DetroitPistonFan
05-30-2013, 12:35 AM
well picturized!

Thats the LEAST insecure player right there.

"EARNED" not give

1 x rookie of the year
4 x season MVP
1 x FMVP.
1 x NBA Champion!
LeBron earned it last year. But doesn't look like he's gonna earn it this year by flopping all the way to a repeat.

eliteballer
05-30-2013, 12:35 AM
...so is Jordan, you twit:oldlol:

KingMichael23
05-30-2013, 12:38 AM
Probably gives reasoning for Phil's recent flip fop of ... "between MJ and Kobe, I'd flip a coin" statement when in his book he very clearly defines MJ being the better player and leader.

Kobe probably contacted him and let him know of his disappointment. Not all that surprising given their history, and Kobe's sensitivity. I still remember Kobe taking shots in reply to fan letters sent to SLAM magazine circa 2002 / 2003 ish to people who claimed T-Mac > Kobe at the time.
Michael was the same thing. Sensitive when people say guys like Magic and Clyde are better than him. Michael would prove to people that he's better and would wanna destroy them. Playing 1 on 1 on Team USA in practice, anywhere or beat him in a team game in the NBA.

Yao Ming's Foot
05-30-2013, 12:45 AM
Criticizing underlings privately rather than in front of coworkers is Business 101. :confusedshrug:

Purch
05-30-2013, 12:48 AM
Why would Phil say something about Lebron in his piece... When.. he never coached him. Clearly in his book he's talking about players he actually got the chance to develop and coach. I don't understand why half the post in here are refrencing Lebron.

juju151111
05-30-2013, 12:59 AM
Criticizing underlings privately rather than in front of coworkers is Business 101. :confusedshrug:
Phil ment he couldn't take it if people were watching. Sometimes teammates like to see the cosch hold everyone equally responsible. Kobe was a bitch noting new here. Lmao he writes in the book howMJ was obviously better... Kobe moans on twitter and he hanges his story up,. Lmao

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 01:00 AM
Actually, LeBron IS insecure. Kobe earned his.

By riding Shaq for 1st 3 is actually GIVEN not earned.

KingMichael23
05-30-2013, 01:06 AM
By riding Shaq for 1st 3 is actually GIVEN not earned.
The titles been "given" to Kobe riding Shaq. You make it sound like Kobe won it in his rookie year. Who cares if Kobe rode Shaq. Kobe was a rising superstar. Then it was his time to shine in 2009 and 2010 winning another 2. What's next? Jerry West rode on Wilt to win his first NBA title?

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 01:07 AM
...so is Jordan, you twit:oldlol:

in your wet dreams. :lol

despite playing for a SCRUB franchise for 1st 7 seasons not even making it to NBA finals.

MJ never asked for a trade out of CHI town.

Kobe threatened to leave NBA's winingest franchise in 2007 if they dont bring him Shaq like big men to gift him 4th & 5th ring.

Kobe is beyond sensitive. He is insecure!

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 01:08 AM
The titles been "given" to Kobe riding Shaq. You make it sound like Kobe won it in his rookie year. Who cares if Kobe rode Shaq. Kobe was a rising superstar. Then it was his time to shine in 2009 and 2010 winning another 2. What's next? Jerry West rode on Wilt to win his first NBA title?

dont matter!

Just like Pippen, Kobe wasn't even close to winning FMVPs over Shaq. not even close!

It was Shaq's LAL & Shaq's show all the way just like it was MJ's show all the way.

If Pippen is GIVEN rings, So is Kobe!

LBJ EARNED his first ring. Just like Shaq EARNED first 3 & MJ EARNED all 6.

live with it.

buddha
05-30-2013, 01:10 AM
what a surprise... the biggest egomaniac in the nba is sensitive when people criticize him. never would have guessed.

Yao Ming's Foot
05-30-2013, 01:11 AM
Phil ment he couldn't take it if people were watching. Sometimes teammates like to see the cosch hold everyone equally responsible. Kobe was a bitch noting new here. Lmao he writes in the book howMJ was obviously better... Kobe moans on twitter and he hanges his story up,. Lmao

Is there one coherent thought in this mess?

KingLeBronJames
05-30-2013, 01:11 AM
in your wet dreams. :lol

despite playing for a SCRUB franchise for 1st 7 seasons not even making it to NBA finals.

MJ never asked for a trade out of CHI town.

Kobe threatened to leave NBA's winingest franchise in 2007 if they dont bring him Shaq like big men to gift him 4th & 5th ring.

Kobe is beyond sensitive. He is insecure!
Magic asked for a trade. Paul Pierce made the same threat.

FlashDwyaneWade3
05-30-2013, 01:12 AM
dont matter!

Just like Pippen, Kobe wasn't even close to winning FMVPs over Shaq. not even close!

It was Shaq's LAL & Shaq's show all the way just like it was MJ's show all the way.

If Pippen is GIVEN rings, So is Kobe!

LBJ EARNED his first ring. Just like Shaq EARNED first 3 & MJ EARNED all 6.

live with it.
Unlike Pippen though, Kobe dominated in the Playoffs. Then let Shaq do his damage in the Finals.

DetroitPistonFan
05-30-2013, 01:14 AM
Unlike Pippen though, Kobe dominated in the Playoffs. Then let Shaq do his damage in the Finals.
This. It wasn't all Shaq now.

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 01:15 AM
Unlike Pippen though, Kobe dominated in the Playoffs. Then let Shaq do his damage in the Finals.

so did pippen.

Pippen dominated in 1993 knicks series. 1992 MIA series. 1991 NYK series.

Its easy to have 1-2 great series when you have Big daddy called Michael Jordan & Shaquille O'Neal.

All the defensive focus & triple teams are there to stop the GOATs.

oh the horror
05-30-2013, 01:22 AM
Kobe bashers act like this is a behavior only exclusive to Kobe Bryant.



You guys are petty and irrational. Nothing new.

seanclayton
05-30-2013, 01:37 AM
Kobe got so sensitive that he was thinking bout writing his book. :roll:

Soundwave
05-30-2013, 01:54 AM
Probably gives reasoning for Phil's recent flip fop of ... "between MJ and Kobe, I'd flip a coin" statement when in his book he very clearly defines MJ being the better player and leader.

Kobe probably contacted him and let him know of his disappointment. Not all that surprising given their history, and Kobe's sensitivity. I still remember Kobe taking shots in reply to fan letters sent to SLAM magazine circa 2002 / 2003 ish to people who claimed T-Mac > Kobe at the time.

Pretty much. Kobe needs to be coddled.

KingLeBronJames
05-30-2013, 01:54 AM
Kobe got so sensitive that he was thinking bout writing his book. :roll:
Didn't read the rest of his tweet?

Nero Tulip
05-30-2013, 03:51 AM
Not exactly a surprise.

TheBigVeto
05-30-2013, 03:59 AM
Kobe is a girl.

The_Yearning
05-30-2013, 04:12 AM
Kobe got so sensitive that he was thinking bout writing his book. :roll:

:roll:

I remember young Kobe use to try and fake a Philly/Up North type of accent. Fake ass *****. We all know you was living in Italy.

AintNoSunshine
05-30-2013, 05:03 AM
just like his stans are so insecure all the time

Legends66NBA7
05-30-2013, 09:15 AM
Why would Phil say something about Lebron in his piece... When.. he never coached him. Clearly in his book he's talking about players he actually got the chance to develop and coach. I don't understand why half the post in here are refrencing Lebron.

Because it's ISH. If Jordan and Bryant are getting mentioned, so is James, regardless of relevance to the topic. Same goes for the other 2.

MaxFly
05-30-2013, 09:27 AM
so did pippen.

Pippen dominated in 1993 knicks series. 1992 MIA series. 1991 NYK series.

Its easy to have 1-2 great series when you have Big daddy called Michael Jordan & Shaquille O'Neal.

All the defensive focus & triple teams are there to stop the GOATs.

So how would one explain the ~ 30/5.5/5.5 that Bryant averaged in the 2009 and 2010 playoffs without playing along side Shaq. Was that all Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum?

OhNoTimNoSho
05-30-2013, 09:50 AM
Its cute seeing all you lady boys trying to act like you are superior to Kobe because Phil called him insecure. The amount of scrutiny he faces in 1 hour of his life would make all of you crying little bitches. Everyone has insecurities he seems to have overcome his.

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 10:01 AM
Its cute seeing all you lady boys trying to act like you are superior to Kobe because Phil called him insecure. The amount of scrutiny he faces in 1 hour of his life would make all of you crying little bitches. Everyone has insecurities he seems to have overcome his.
Get real dude. Normal everyday people face much more adversity than a person like Kobe could ever dream of. Kobe could never imagine the pressures that come with living pay check to pay check to support a family and then losing your job.

If you think a player explaining to the media why the team lost a game is anywhere near explaining to your family that you've lost your job, or that you have to leave your house, you're just a fool.

I'm sure plenty of people on this board have had to go through things that Kobe couldn't imagine having to live through.

tpols
05-30-2013, 10:04 AM
Get real dude. Normal everyday people face much more adversity than a person like Kobe could ever dream of. Kobe could never imagine the pressures that come with living pay check to pay check to support a family and then losing your job.

If you think a player explaining to the media why the team lost a game is anywhere near explaining to your family that you've lost your job, or that you have to leave your house, you're just a fool.

I'm sure plenty of people on this board have had to go through things that Kobe couldn't imagine having to live through.
scrutiny=/=adversity.

No one even knows who you are. How could they criticize you?

Jailblazers7
05-30-2013, 10:04 AM
Kobe bashers act like this is a behavior only exclusive to Kobe Bryant.



You guys are petty and irrational. Nothing new.

Yeah, Jordan was sensitive to criticism too but maybe just in a different way. Some random sports columnist could say something like "Jordan isn't a great shooter...Drexler shoots the 3 better." So he lets it boil inside of him for 3 years and then comes out in the 92 finals and hits 6 3's in a half.

dh144498
05-30-2013, 10:05 AM
does OP comment on anything other than Kobe and MJ? :wtf: :biggums:

dh144498
05-30-2013, 10:11 AM
Kobe maybe is sensitive to criticism, but that's what drove him to become the best. 3 more finals appearances and 2 straight chips after all the obstacles and criticisms he took post 2004.

pretty nice.

Bandito
05-30-2013, 10:37 AM
Get real dude. Normal everyday people face much more adversity than a person like Kobe could ever dream of. Kobe could never imagine the pressures that come with living pay check to pay check to support a family and then losing your job.

If you think a player explaining to the media why the team lost a game is anywhere near explaining to your family that you've lost your job, or that you have to leave your house, you're just a fool.

I'm sure plenty of people on this board have had to go through things that Kobe couldn't imagine having to live through.
have you ever been a public figure in LA 24/7? Of course not, with the money and fame there comes a price.

Yao Ming's Foot
05-30-2013, 10:41 AM
Get real dude. Normal everyday people face much more adversity than a person like Kobe could ever dream of. Kobe could never imagine the pressures that come with living pay check to pay check to support a family and then losing your job.

If you think a player explaining to the media why the team lost a game is anywhere near explaining to your family that you've lost your job, or that you have to leave your house, you're just a fool.

I'm sure plenty of people on this board have had to go through things that Kobe couldn't imagine having to live through.

It's not Kobe's fault that you are irresponsible with money and have no job skills.

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 10:43 AM
It's not Kobe's fault that you are irresponsible with money and have no job skills.
:roll:

KingBeasley08
05-30-2013, 10:46 AM
not surprising at all. Phil writes about how MJ is better than Kobe in his book and then just a little later, Kobe says he's writing his own book :lol

okayabc123
05-30-2013, 11:39 AM
I find that 'very sensitive' means kobe was ultra competitive.

You have to be sensitive when you want to be the best. You have to prove your critics wrong, and you do get insecure when you know you are out there working your a$$ off everyday to be the best, yet criticisms are still there.

I know 99% of you will never understand, because you guys are never great at anything. So how could you understand about sensitivity to criticisms when there's nothing really to criticize you about. But if you are one of the best at whatever it is you do, any criticism will make you react and be sensitive about it

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 12:33 PM
I find that 'very sensitive' means kobe is INSECURE!


no one besides Kobe goes on twitter tweeting "how it is to play with shaq" after Phil said MJ was the best!

Kobe is INSECURE to the core!

ULTRA COMPETITIVE means hitting game winner at NCAA championship game at the age of 18.

ULTRA COMPETITIVE means giving Phil Jackson his First 6 rings & gifting his legacy.

(2 of the 6 rings deciding game won by SINGLE point. 1993 finals, 1998 finals. another 2 of the leftover 4 rings won by game winning assist in 1997 & 15 pts 4th quarter rally 1992)

Thats how MJ gifted Phil his legacy!

dh144498
05-30-2013, 12:36 PM
no one besides Kobe goes on twitter tweeting "how it is to play with shaq" after Phil said MJ was the best!

Kobe is INSECURE to the core!

ULTRA COMPETITIVE means hitting game winner at NCAA championship game at the age of 18.

ULTRA COMPETITIVE means giving Phil Jackson his First 6 rings & gifting his legacy.

(2 of the 6 rings deciding game won by SINGLE point. 1993 finals, 1998 finals. another 2 of the leftover 4 rings won by game winning assist in 1997 & 15 pts 4th quarter rally 1992)

Thats how MJ gifted Phil his legacy!

you take the meaning of "stan" to a whole another level.

NoGunzJustSkillz
05-30-2013, 12:38 PM
Why would Phil say something about Lebron in his piece... When.. he never coached him. Clearly in his book he's talking about players he actually got the chance to develop and coach. I don't understand why half the post in here are refrencing Lebron.
yes, you do.

Goldrush25
05-30-2013, 12:44 PM
SMH @ fans trying to compare Lebron's insecurities to Kobe's.

They're BOTH insecure. Probably both pretty narcissistic as well.

Same with beautiful women. Anyone that's known any really truly beautiful women would know that they're the most insecure, the biggest head cases. They've been told that they're the prettiest so they define themselves as such. They take any slight or perceived slight towards them out of proportion. They're completely preoccupied with maintaining that beauty because when it's gone, their identity is gone.

Same with Kobe and Lebron. They were both teen prodigies at basketball. They define themselves as great basketball players. Any slight towards their game, and they're going to overreact because that's attacking their very being, in their eyes.

Compare that to someone like Charles Barkley, who has found success off the basketball course. If Phil Jackson said something about Charles he would laugh it off. Barkley has character depth, whereas people like Kobe and Lebron don't.

FKAri
05-30-2013, 12:51 PM
SMH @ fans trying to compare Lebron's insecurities to Kobe's.

They're BOTH insecure. Probably both pretty narcissistic as well.

Same with beautiful women. Anyone that's known any really truly beautiful women would know that they're the most insecure, the biggest head cases. They've been told that they're the prettiest so they define themselves as such. They take any slight or perceived slight towards them out of proportion. They're completely preoccupied with maintaining that beauty because when it's gone, their identity is gone.

Same with Kobe and Lebron. They were both teen prodigies at basketball. They define themselves as great basketball players. Any slight towards their game, and they're going to overreact because that's attacking their very being, in their eyes.

Compare that to someone like Charles Barkley, who has found success off the basketball course. If Phil Jackson said something about Charles he would laugh it off. Barkley has character depth, whereas people like Kobe and Lebron don't.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

branslowski
05-30-2013, 12:53 PM
So how would one explain the ~ 30/5.5/5.5 that Bryant averaged in the 2009 and 2010 playoffs without playing along side Shaq. Was that all Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum?

MaxFly, I didn't know you were a magician! Your facts seemed to make a troll turd disappear.:lol

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 12:54 PM
SMH @ fans trying to compare Lebron's insecurities to Kobe's.

They're BOTH insecure. Probably both pretty narcissistic as well.

Same with beautiful women. Anyone that's known any really truly beautiful women would know that they're the most insecure, the biggest head cases. They've been told that they're the prettiest so they define themselves as such. They take any slight or perceived slight towards them out of proportion. They're completely preoccupied with maintaining that beauty because when it's gone, their identity is gone.

Same with Kobe and Lebron. They were both teen prodigies at basketball. They define themselves as great basketball players. Any slight towards their game, and they're going to overreact because that's attacking their very being, in their eyes.

Compare that to someone like Charles Barkley, who has found success off the basketball course. If Phil Jackson said something about Charles he would laugh it off. Barkley has character depth, whereas people like Kobe and Lebron don't.
Believe it or not, women actually don't have uniform personalities and life experiences. I know.... shocking, right?

Goldrush25
05-30-2013, 01:03 PM
Believe it or not, women actually don't have uniform personalities and life experiences. I know.... shocking, right?

Of course not. But that's a general observation that I (and many others) have made. And it's not just with women, but I've observed it more in women just because of what society wants (and pressures) women to be.

I've also known beautiful women who also are physicians, lawyers, or otherwise are in highly successful professions. They seem pretty emotionally stable because they've developed character depth. But the ones whose primary job is being beautiful? They're usually pretty crazy.

But to get this topic back on track, highly talented people can be overly sensitive if they take criticism towards their craft, especially if that criticism is coming from a credible source.

Does anyone think Kobe would've had a problem if it was Smush Parker talking about MJ/Kobe? No, but Kobe respects Phil Jackson. Kobe reacted the same way when Shaq criticized him. As much bad blood as there was between them, Kobe very much wanted Shaq to respect him and give him his due.

#number6ix#
05-30-2013, 01:05 PM
SMH @ fans trying to compare Lebron's insecurities to Kobe's.

They're BOTH insecure. Probably both pretty narcissistic as well.

Same with beautiful women. Anyone that's known any really truly beautiful women would know that they're the most insecure, the biggest head cases. They've been told that they're the prettiest so they define themselves as such. They take any slight or perceived slight towards them out of proportion. They're completely preoccupied with maintaining that beauty because when it's gone, their identity is gone.

Same with Kobe and Lebron. They were both teen prodigies at basketball. They define themselves as great basketball players. Any slight towards their game, and they're going to overreact because that's attacking their very being, in their eyes.

Compare that to someone like Charles Barkley, who has found success off the basketball course. If Phil Jackson said something about Charles he would laugh it off. Barkley has character depth, whereas people like Kobe and Lebron don't.
Great post:applause: your easily one of the best posters on this site

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 01:09 PM
Of course not. But that's a general observation that I (and many others) have made. And it's not just with women, but I've observed it more in women just because of what society wants women to be.

I've also known beautiful women who also are physicians, lawyers, or otherwise are in highly successful professions. They seem pretty emotionally stable because they've developed character depth. But the ones whose primary job is being beautiful? They're usually pretty crazy.
Yeah, in the same way that it's a general observation that black people are criminals and welfare drug addicts.

I've known blacks that are physicians, lawyers. They seem emotionally stable because they developed character depth. But those who's job is crime and drugs? They're usually pretty crazy.


Baseless generalizations FTW!!!

Goldrush25
05-30-2013, 01:21 PM
Yeah, in the same way that it's a general observation that black people are criminals and welfare drug addicts.

I've known blacks that are physicians, lawyers. They seem emotionally stable because they developed character depth. But those who's job is crime and drugs? They're usually pretty crazy.


Baseless generalizations FTW!!!

That's a poor, labored analogy.

I'm not attacking the moral character of some women by saying they're "crazy." However, you would be attacking the moral character of "blacks" (when were you born, 1950?) by associating them with crime.

But yes it's a generalization for a reason. That's because women in general have poor self-image. And that's not baseless. It's stated by women themselves. Do a google search and see for yourself instead of continuing your pointless debate.

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 01:27 PM
That's a poor, labored analogy.

I'm not attacking the moral character of some women by saying they're "crazy." However, you would be attacking the moral character of "blacks" (when were you born, 1950?) by associating them with crime.

But yes it's a generalization for a reason. That's because women in general have poor self-image. And that's not baseless. It's stated by women themselves. Do a google search and see for yourself instead of continuing your pointless debate.
:facepalm

branslowski
05-30-2013, 01:30 PM
:facepalm

You must not get out much.:facepalm

guy
05-30-2013, 01:34 PM
I find that 'very sensitive' means kobe was ultra competitive.

You have to be sensitive when you want to be the best. You have to prove your critics wrong, and you do get insecure when you know you are out there working your a$$ off everyday to be the best, yet criticisms are still there.

I know 99% of you will never understand, because you guys are never great at anything. So how could you understand about sensitivity to criticisms when there's nothing really to criticize you about. But if you are one of the best at whatever it is you do, any criticism will make you react and be sensitive about it

Its true that competitive people are sensitive. Jordan was too. But Kobe's sensitivity seems to go beyond that. Its one thing to be sensitive to criticism and then try to prove them wrong, which Kobe has done.

However, its another thing to be sensitive to criticism and make excuses for it, which has also done. Kobe's comment about how the perception would be if Jordan played with Shaq was just some lame excuse and really had nothing to do with what Phil said. Kobe's all said stuff like that before. I remember a few years ago people were talking about the Lakers possibly breaking the 96 Bulls record, and Kobe made some lame excuse about how it was easier for a midwest team to do that then a western team because they didn't have to travel cross country as much. There is no competitiveness to admire with that level of sensitivity.

tazb
05-30-2013, 01:40 PM
Dude's like a bitch, what do u expect.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
05-30-2013, 01:42 PM
Its true that competitive people are sensitive. Jordan was too. But Kobe's sensitivity seems to go beyond that. Its one thing to be sensitive to criticism and then try to prove them wrong, which Kobe has done.

However, its another thing to be sensitive to criticism and make excuses for it, which has also done. Kobe's comment about how the perception would be if Jordan played with Shaq was just some lame excuse and really had nothing to do with what Phil said. Kobe's all said stuff like that before. I remember a few years ago people were talking about the Lakers possibly breaking the 96 Bulls record, and Kobe made some lame excuse about how it was easier for a midwest team to do that then a western team because they didn't have to travel cross country as much. There is no competitiveness to admire with that level of sensitivity.

Don't get me wrong, I value P-Jax's opinion. Guy is arguably the GOAT coach. I don't know though. Sorta feels he's taking this personal. :confusedshrug:

If you feel Mike was a better player than Kobe..fine. That's OK. Leave it at that.

STATUTORY
05-30-2013, 02:13 PM
wouldn't be surprised if Kobe was indeed sensitive

empathy, sensitivity are indicators of higher intelligence. Everything we see from Kobe from his 99% percentile SAT scores to prolific prose writing on facebook suggest he's more sentient than most of the idiots in the league. Phil is probably just confusing Kobe's consciousness and astuteness for sensitivity.

dh144498
05-30-2013, 02:26 PM
wouldn't be surprised if Kobe was indeed sensitive

empathy, sensitivity are indicators of higher intelligence. Everything we see from Kobe from his 99% percentile SAT scores to prolific prose writing on facebook suggest he's more sentient than most of the idiots in the league. Phil is probably just confusing Kobe's consciousness and astuteness for sensitivity.

:applause:

spoken like a true intellect.
Sensitivity alone could lead to soft. But sensitivity + determination leads to greatness, i.e. Kobe Bryant. :bowdown:

STATUTORY
05-30-2013, 02:33 PM
:applause:

spoken like a true intellect.
Sensitivity alone could lead to soft. But sensitivity + determination leads to greatness, i.e. Kobe Bryant. :bowdown:

Kobe is a true artist. you can tell by his approach to the game and aesthetics on the court. Artists tend to be "sensitive" because they perceive things that fall below the threshold of most people.

I have no doubt in my mind Kobe could have won a Nobel Prize or had his own corridor at the guggenheim if he put his mind to science or art. He's that kind of special.

Jacks3
05-30-2013, 02:49 PM
If Kobe is sensitive, than what does that make MJ? Dude's probbaly the biggest, crying bitch ever. 50 yrs old and still moaning about how he was cut off his highschool basketball team. :oldlol:

These MJ stans have to be the biggest morons on Earth. How you gonna bitch about Kobe when your boy is probably the most "intensive", insecure star in NBA history.

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 02:59 PM
If Kobe is sensitive, than what does that make MJ? Dude's probbaly the biggest, crying bitch ever. 50 yrs old and still moaning about how he was cut off his highschool basketball team. :oldlol:

These MJ stans have to be the biggest morons on Earth. How you gonna bitch about Kobe when your boy is probably the most "intensive", insecure star in NBA history.
Jordan fans are without question the absolute worst. They're like wrestling fans.

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 03:03 PM
Jordan fans are without question the absolute worst. They're like wrestling fans.

Oh! really?!

come talk about Jordan when he tweets about Jerry Krause & their relationship & how tough it was to play for SCRUB franchise like Bulls first 7 yrs.

Kobe tweeting about "playing with Shaq" but never mentioning "3 rings he collected riding shaq"

no wonder he calls himself MAMBA, the snake that bites the arm that feeds him.

greymatter
05-30-2013, 03:03 PM
wouldn't be surprised if Kobe was indeed sensitive

empathy, sensitivity are indicators of higher intelligence. Everything we see from Kobe from his 99% percentile SAT scores to prolific prose writing on facebook suggest he's more sentient than most of the idiots in the league. Phil is probably just confusing Kobe's consciousness and astuteness for sensitivity.

Not sure if serious, but since you're a proven Kobe bishop swallower it shouldn't be much a surprise. 1080 is only 99% if you're only comparing him to ghetto trash imbeciles who can barely spell their own names. Otherwise it was slightly above average.

David Robinson scored 1320.

COnDEMnED
05-30-2013, 03:07 PM
in your wet dreams. :lol

despite playing for a SCRUB franchise for 1st 7 seasons not even making it to NBA finals.

MJ never asked for a trade out of CHI town.

Kobe threatened to leave NBA's winingest franchise in 2007 if they dont bring him Shaq like big men to gift him 4th & 5th ring.

Kobe is beyond sensitive. He is insecure!
Talk about being insecure, why can't you keep Kobe out of your mind and fingertips? We get it, you don't like him, that's ok, but give it a rest dude. You're an incredibly annoying hater. What are you going to do with yourself when he's gone in a few years? Don't tell me take up stock in lotion...

dh144498
05-30-2013, 03:09 PM
Talk about being insecure, why can't you keep Kobe out of your mind and fingertips? We get it, you don't like him, that's ok, but give it a rest dude. You're an incredibly annoying hater. What are you going to do with yourself when he's gone in a few years? Don't tell me take up stock in lotion...

i'm wouldn't be surprised if he he says something about Kobe on his tombstone.

sportjames23
05-30-2013, 03:35 PM
If Kobe is sensitive, than what does that make MJ? Dude's probbaly the biggest, crying bitch ever. 50 yrs old and still moaning about how he was cut off his highschool basketball team. :oldlol:

These MJ stans have to be the biggest morons on Earth. How you gonna bitch about Kobe when your boy is probably the most "intensive", insecure star in NBA history.


Look at this asswipe. :oldlol:

sportjames23
05-30-2013, 03:36 PM
Jordan fans are without question the absolute worst. They're like wrestling fans.


And look at his fellow asswipe. :oldlol:

Bandito
05-30-2013, 03:39 PM
Oh! really?!

come talk about Jordan when he tweets about Jerry Krause & their relationship & how tough it was to play for SCRUB franchise like Bulls first 7 yrs.

Kobe tweeting about "playing with Shaq" but never mentioning "3 rings he collected riding shaq"

no wonder he calls himself MAMBA, the snake that bites the arm that feeds him.You do know he's a fan of Lebron and not Kobe right? IF so why do you have to bring Kobe to every thread? Were you the girl he raped in Denver?

Nebraskanball
05-30-2013, 03:49 PM
Hahahahahahahahah at Lebron's shirts.

"Earned Not Given"
"Check my Stats"
"LBJ MVP"

Holy shit that dude is a loser.

dh144498
05-30-2013, 03:50 PM
Hahahahahahahahah at Lebron's shirts.

"Earned Not Given"
"Check my Stats"
"LBJ MVP"

Holy shit that dude is a loser.

:roll:

you are my new favorite poster.
:bowdown:

Sharmer
05-30-2013, 05:59 PM
Of course Kobe is sensitive he has little chicken legs.

Rooster
05-30-2013, 06:56 PM
Oh! really?!

come talk about Jordan when he tweets about Jerry Krause & their relationship & how tough it was to play for SCRUB franchise like Bulls first 7 yrs.

Kobe tweeting about "playing with Shaq" but never mentioning "3 rings he collected riding shaq"

no wonder he calls himself MAMBA, the snake that bites the arm that feeds him.

Jordan should thank Krause first.

Because if he had his way

He would have played with Joe Wolf

Good thing Krause was his own man.

Because he found a way to get Horace and Scottie

And the rest is history.

RossTalksSports
05-30-2013, 07:22 PM
Kobe and LeBron's respective upbringings probably have a lot to do with their heightened levels of sensitivity. It's hard to hear criticism if you've been told your ish smells like roses your entire life.

As for Jordan a little too much is being made of his sensitivity. He seemed fairly secure (maybe too much so) in his knowledge that he was the best and no one could touch him. He was known to sort of imagine slights just to get himself hyped for a game. So he actively tried to take things as worse than they were to help fuel his game.

Jordan wasn't some paragon of security, just saying he doesn't rank down there with Kobe.

AlphaWolf24
05-30-2013, 07:26 PM
And look at his fellow asswipe. :oldlol:


this fool.....:lol

MJ was so sensitive he took his HOF speech as an oppurtunity to bash everyone who hurt his Giant ego..

GTFO.....

MJ or Kobe....flip a coin....both have ego's the size of Pippen's D!8K

Rooster
05-30-2013, 07:29 PM
Kobe and LeBron's respective upbringings probably have a lot to do with their heightened levels of sensitivity. It's hard to hear criticism if you've been told your ish smells like roses your entire life.

As for Jordan a little too much is being made of his sensitivity. He seemed fairly secure (maybe too much so) in his knowledge that he was the best and no one could touch him. He was known to sort of imagine slights just to get himself hyped for a game. So he actively tried to take things as worse than they were to help fuel his game.

Jordan wasn't some paragon of security, just saying he doesn't rank down there with Kobe.

He sounded insecure on his HOF speech. :no:

AlphaWolf24
05-30-2013, 07:35 PM
He sounded insecure on his HOF speech. :no:


MJ was so sensitive he took his HOF speech as an oppurtunity to bash everyone who hurt his Giant ego..



MJ or Kobe....flip a coin....both have ego's the size of Pippen's D!8K

exactly...a secur person doesn't act like that...especially at HOF ceramony

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 07:35 PM
Jordan should thank Krause first.

Because if he had his way

He would have played with Joe Wolf

Good thing Krause was his own man.

Because he found a way to get Horace and Scottie

And the rest is history.

so you are saying Jordan-Oakley wouldn't have made it to NBA Finals EVER!

so you are saying Barkley would never have left sixers & joined his best friend MJ in chicago to form MJ-Barkley-Oakley trio to win couple of rings in the '90s.

You do realize that Pippen rode Jordan for 6 rings right!

You do realize that Horace rode Jordan for 3 rings right!

You're assuming Jordan had Kobe like "UNCOACHABLE" personality & Ewing, Oakley, Barkley etc etc are not CLOSE FRIENDS at all!

Not everyone has egocentric narcissistic personality like BEANy baby.

Jordan literally dragged his a%% to Magic Johnson charity game in LA & entertained crowd by doing best dunks never done in dunk contest.

Thats MJ's personality, charity & showmanship.

Anyone would've joined MJ in Chicago to win some rings.

sportjames23
05-30-2013, 07:36 PM
Jordan should thank Krause first.

Because if he had his way

He would have played with Joe Wolf

Good thing Krause was his own man.

Because he found a way to get Horace and Scottie

And the rest is history.


Krause should thank MJ.

Because if it weren't for MJ, Krause would have no Executive of the Year Award and no rings on his resume.

Rooster
05-30-2013, 07:39 PM
Krause should thank MJ.

Because if it weren't for MJ, Krause would have no Executive of the Year Award and no rings on his resume.

So you think Jordan would have won with Joe Wolf.

They should thank each other.

Jordan thanking Krause first for bringing him Pippen and Grant.

And Krause thanking Jordan for winning it with them.

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 07:41 PM
Krause should thank MJ.

Because if it weren't for MJ, Krause would have no Executive of the Year Award and no rings on his resume.

well said!

"Organizations win championships not just players alone" MY A55. :lol :lol

amongst all that infighting, contract bikering, arguments btw phil, jerry & jerry & MJ & Pip & Horace.

all MJ needed to do was ASK FOR A TRADE!

Krause must bow down to that statue he sees at United Center every day.

Rooster
05-30-2013, 07:43 PM
so you are saying Jordan-Oakley wouldn't have made it to NBA Finals EVER!

so you are saying Barkley would never have left sixers & joined his best friend MJ in chicago to form MJ-Barkley-Oakley trio to win couple of rings in the '90s.

You do realize that Pippen rode Jordan for 6 rings right!

You do realize that Horace rode Jordan for 3 rings right!

You're assuming Jordan had Kobe like "UNCOACHABLE" personality & Ewing, Oakley, Barkley etc etc are not CLOSE FRIENDS at all!

Not everyone has egocentric narcissistic personality like BEANy baby.

Jordan literally dragged his a%% to Magic Johnson charity game in LA & entertained crowd by doing best dunks never done in dunk contest.

Thats MJ's personality, charity & showmanship.

Anyone would've joined MJ in Chicago to win some rings.

Jordan never won without Pippen

Had a losing record without Pippen

That's a fact

No hypotheticals.

BTW Jordan is the GOAT.

But like I said he would have played with Joe Wolf

And paralleled Dominique career.

If Krause was a yes man to him.

NumberSix
05-30-2013, 07:44 PM
well said!

"Organizations win championships not just players alone" MY A55. :lol :lol

amongst all that infighting, contract bikering, arguments btw phil, jerry & jerry & MJ & Pip & Horace.

all MJ needed to do was ASK FOR A TRADE!

Krause must bow down to that statue he sees at United Center every day.
Typical classless Chicago fans. Sure, Krause was one of the best GM's in NBA history, but let's just all take a big shit on him.:rolleyes:

Rooster
05-30-2013, 07:46 PM
well said!

"Organizations win championships not just players alone" MY A55. :lol :lol

amongst all that infighting, contract bikering, arguments btw phil, jerry & jerry & MJ & Pip & Horace.

all MJ needed to do was ASK FOR A TRADE!

Krause must bow down to that statue he sees at United Center every day.

That does not change the fact that

He was a better GM and scout than Jordan.

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 07:47 PM
Jordan never won without Pippen

Had a losing record without Pippen

That's a fact

No hypotheticals.

BTW Jordan is the GOAT.

But like I said he would have played with Joe Wolf

And paralleled Dominique career.

If Krause was a yes man to him.

Ahmmm.

1991 championship, Jordan won all by himself.

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star starter
1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star bench player.
1991 Pippen was NOT an all-NBA First teamer.
1991 Pippen was NOT a SUPERstar player ala Barkley, Ewing.

1991 Pippen was just a good player like Horace grant.

1991 NBA Championship was won by Michael Jordan ALONE! as a lone All-star!! in chicago bulls line-up


Pippen became "pippen" from 1992 season.

Rooster
05-30-2013, 08:02 PM
Ahmmm.

1991 championship, Jordan won all by himself.

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star starter
1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star bench player.
1991 Pippen was NOT an all-NBA First teamer.
1991 Pippen was NOT a SUPERstar player ala Barkley, Ewing.

1991 Pippen was just a good player like Horace grant.

1991 NBA Championship was won by Michael Jordan ALONE! as a lone All-star!! in chicago bulls line-up

Pippen became "pippen" from 1992 season.

Hmmm

I never knew Jordan guarded the likes of Price, Isiah, Barkley and Magic all by himself

Did Paxson ring a bell

Did Phil switching Pippen to guard Magic in game 2 ring a bell.

Or Jordan beat them all by himself.

1 against 5.:oldlol:

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 08:07 PM
Hmmm

I never knew Jordan guarded the likes of Price, Isiah, Barkley and Magic all by himself

Did Paxson ring a bell

Did Phil switching Pippen to guard Magic in game 2 ring a bell.

Or Jordan beat them all by himself.

1 against 5.:oldlol:

1991 Pippen was NOT a SUPERstar. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT at the calibre of Barkley or Malone. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-Defensive team member either. FACT!


1991 pippen was JUST a STAR! player. STONE COLD FACT!


live with it.


Pippen rode Jordan for 1991 ring.

Rooster
05-30-2013, 08:12 PM
1991 Pippen was NOT a SUPERstar. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT at the calibre of Barkley or Malone. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-Defensive team member either. FACT!


1991 pippen was JUST a STAR! player. STONE COLD FACT!


live with it.


Pippen rode Jordan for 1991 ring.

So in conclusion Jordan won it all by himself.:oldlol:

I'm pretty sure Jordan

Did not need Pippen 22 points, 9 Rebs, 6 assist and 3 steals per game

In those playoffs.

Did not need those how Pippen hounded the likes of Barkley and Magic

While fillin the blank.

Genius:applause:

Class Dismissed.

chazzy
05-30-2013, 08:12 PM
1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star. FACT!


1991 Pippen was NOT an all-Defensive team member either. FACT!


Irrelevant, look at the jump in his play in the playoffs.. 22/9/6

branslowski
05-30-2013, 08:16 PM
1991 Pippen was NOT a SUPERstar. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-star. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT at the calibre of Barkley or Malone. FACT!

1991 Pippen was NOT an all-Defensive team member either. FACT!


1991 pippen was JUST a STAR! player. STONE COLD FACT!


live with it.


Pippen rode Jordan for 1991 ring.
I'm assuming ur purposely trolling just to get reactions, and the fact that u try to find any small retarded window to bring Kobe down tells me that...So if ur trolling on purpose I won't judge you, cause not everyone gets attention in life outside of ISH...And no offense, just assuming, because ur clearly talking out of ur arse.

gengiskhan
05-30-2013, 08:16 PM
So in conclusion Jordan won it all by himself.:oldlol:

I'm pretty sure Jordan

Did not need Pippen 22 points, 9 Rebs, 6 assist and 3 steals per game

In those playoffs.

Did not need those how Pippen hounded the likes of Barkley and Magic

While fillin the blank.

Genius:applause:

Class Dismissed.

1991 Jordan all-star starter.
1991 Pippen couldn't even get to all-star BENCH. :lol :lol

1991 Jordan all-defensive first teamer.
Pippen couldn't even get into this popularity contest :lol :lol

1991 Jordan season MVP.
1991 Pippen WHO? :lol :lol

1991 Jordan leads NBA finals for Bulls in assists with 11+
1991 Pippen was the playmaker in NBA finals. :lol :lol

1991 Jordan led Bulls in scoring in finals with 31+ as well.

need more examples......

branslowski
05-30-2013, 08:21 PM
You know n!ggas trollin wen:

They say Gasols 18ppg 8reb carried Kobe to a title and he should have both finals MVPs...Yet Pippen wasnt important to Jordan's title, yet dude avg 22ppg 9reb 6ast...And say Gasol was a superstar, but not Pippen.:facepalm

nosfan773
05-30-2013, 08:21 PM
so are his fanboys

Solefade
05-30-2013, 08:26 PM
so are his fanboys

:lol