When LeBron plays the way he did to start the 2nd half...

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

He's as good as anyone.... that's ever played. Yeah I said it.

What was that? 14 straight points in the 3rd? Bron single-handedly willed his team tonight. Props. :applause:

[inclinerator]

he needs to play witha kobe mentality, he's one of the greatest offensive talents of all time but he's hindering his offensive ability not being as aggressive as he should

[mehyaM24]

...i dont know if hes better than shaq or mj but hes damn ****ing good. best to do it since mj.


he needs to play witha kobe mentality, he's one of the greatest offensive talents of all time but he's hindering his offensive ability not being as aggressive as he should

lebron just passed wilt on the all time scoring list. the playoff scoring list to be exact.

[lakerspng]

same could be said for any of the "all time greats"

when certain guys get in a zone and recognize it and get aggressive... they're untouchable.

Jordan, Bird, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq... When you have all world talent and you're rolling, no defense is good enough and nothing can stop you.

[Lebron23]

He did scored 16 points in the 3rd quarter. LeBron needs to continue being aggressive in this series, and if they advance in the NBA Finals.

[Screamingdoom]

I agree, but it doesn't happen often enough. Sometimes I wish he would just chuck up 30 shots. But he made some great passes to Chalmers and Haslem so he knows what he's doing.

[mehyaM24]

same could be said for any of the "all time greats"

when certain guys get in a zone and recognize it and get aggressive... they're untouchable.

Jordan, Bird, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq... When you have all world talent and you're rolling, no defense is good enough and nothing can stop you.

lebron is better than all those guys sans shaq and jordan.not only does lebron have an advantage with his athleticism,but he does it efficiently. a true bball genius!!

[#number6ix#]

Lebron and UD dominated the second half

[tmacattack33]

He's as good as anyone.... that's ever played. Yeah I said it.

What was that? 14 straight points in the 3rd? Bron single-handedly willed his team tonight. Props. :applause:

WRONG. 16 points...and 4 assists :D

[lakerspng]

lebron is better than all those guys sans shaq.not only does lebron have an advantage with his athleticism,but he does it efficiently. a true bball genius!!

no, he is not. don't be ridiculous. Good for him, he pulled his head out of his butt and put up a strong second half tonight, but get real.

[NumberSix]

LeBron. BULLY!

UD. BULLY!!

Heat. BULLY!!!

[Magic 32]

He's as good as anyone.... that's ever played. Yeah I said it.

What was that? 14 straight points in the 3rd? Bron single-handedly willed his team tonight. Props. :applause:

You could say that about 25 players in NBA history.

Sleepy Floyd had 51 points and 10 assists in a game. Players get hot. Lebron had one great qtr.

What decided the game was 13 points from Pacers. :facepalm

[Leftimage]

The thing is, when he goes ''Kobe'' like that he actually retains the deft passing ability and mindset - that's where the true ''unstoppability'' comes in cause it just ****s up other defenses so bad - and uplifts his teammates like crazy.

Not taking away from UD's performance, he's been outstanding the last two games. But it's scary to think his explosions were just a by-product of Lebron ''mixing it up'' during his extended heat check.

The whole team benefits, and it permanently changes the mood of the game.

[tmacattack33]

same could be said for any of the "all time greats"

when certain guys get in a zone and recognize it and get aggressive... they're untouchable.

Jordan, Bird, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq... When you have all world talent and you're rolling, no defense is good enough and nothing can stop you.

:oldlol:

[DaSeba5]

He's matured ever since that 2011 Finals. That's why I never buy the whole he's a soft choker crap that I always read on here. He knows when to take over and he steps up when they need him. He knows how to be a leader. He's come a long way since he first came here.

[Straight_Ballin]

And yet players who were all stars are now putting up shitty numbers along side him. What other superstar in NBA history has joined a stacked team and had former superstars of their own team have such decline? Post the stats! 16 points in a qtr might be good enough against a weak team like the Pacers, but the fact that the series is at 3-2 is pathetic as is. Sure as hell won't be enough to beat the Spurs and its going to be funny as hell watching this guy drop 40 a game in the finals and still lose because his teammates cannot play well in the finals in a system that he's a part of unless its a shortened season. See 2011 Mavs for reference.

[mehyaM24]

kobe? dont make me laugh :roll:


You could say that about 25 players in NBA history.

Sleepy Floyd had 51 points and 10 assists in a game. Players get hot. Lebron had one great qtr.

What decided the game was 13 points from Pacers. :facepalm

.....lebron does it more consistently. his all around game flourishes too. he doesnt just score.....combine that with his athleticism only comparable players with hot streaks are mj and shaq.

lebron also averages 104 total assists per playoff run,which is increasing....excluding this yr its 110 per full playoff run.....LeBron is 232 assists from tying larry bird for 4th alltime.....he could pass bird for 4th alltime in career playoff assists by age 30 as well.....LeBron has had 159 assists in 1 playoff run,in 2007.....LeBron is 19th in playoff assists....with 159 more assists(which he has done in a single playoff run) he would pass billups,rondo,drexler,mark Jackson,maurice cheeks,kevin Johnson,bob cousy,jerry west,and isiah Thomas.

best player since mj.

[mehyaM24]

And yet players who were all stars are now putting up shitty numbers along side him. What other superstar in NBA history has joined a stacked team and had former superstars of their own team have such decline? Post the stats! 16 points in a qtr might be good enough against a weak team like the Pacers, but the fact that the series is at 3-2 is pathetic as is. Sure as hell won't be enough to beat the Spurs and its going to be funny as hell watching this guy drop 40 a game in the finals and still lose because his teammates cannot play well in the finals in a system that he's a part of unless its a shortened season. See 2011 Mavs for reference.

heat up 3-2. led by lebron. lololol

[chazzy]

:oldlol:
When he's on fire he's unstoppable :confusedshrug:

[lakerspng]

:oldlol:
Why are people so freakin stupid sometimes.

Kobe has exploded in games and dominated teams like almost no one in history. Some of his performances make LeBrons today look below average. Haters are just freakin lame sometimes

[catquickspider]

He's as good as anyone.... that's ever played. Yeah I said it.

What was that? 14 straight points in the 3rd? Bron single-handedly willed his team tonight. Props. :applause:

I don't think he can do that as often as other greats tho. His jumper is still on and off.

[Boston C's]

He's as good as anyone.... that's ever played. Yeah I said it.

What was that? 14 straight points in the 3rd? Bron single-handedly willed his team tonight. Props. :applause:

This is such a vague statement that its not even funny...I can play this game too

When tmac plays the way he did against the spurs for 35 seconds in the 4th quarter hes as good as anyone in nba history

When Kobe plays the way he did against (insert game here) hes as good as anyone

Hell I remember ray allen goin for 20 straight points in a game 6 ECF game against the sixers and given the circumstances thats better then what lebron did tonight

Lebron is fantastic easily the best player in the game and barring any ridiculous injury will be a top 5 GOAT no problem but what your saying you can say about almost any star player thats laced them up

[pauk]

What people need to understand is that Lebron plays the game the right way, he wants the absolute most efficient plays every single offensive possession... even if he is entirely open for a jumper he will often pass the ball if for example Ray Allen is open aswell... because that means higher percentage shot and that means higher win the game to lose the game ratio in the long run.... If his teammates aint producing then he will takeover himself, if he is on fire he will logically heatcheck until he misses at least once... He plays the game simply within the flow of the offense, whatever the defense gives him he makes you pay...

Its just logical, smart & unselfish basketball.... similar to Larry Bird & Magic Johnson and that is the main reason why i like Lebrons game just like i liked theirs...

[Magic 32]

What people need to understand is that Lebron plays the game the right way, he wants the absolute most efficient plays every single offensive possession... even if he is entirely open for a jumper he will often pass the ball if for example Ray Allen is open aswell... because that means higher percentage shot and that means higher win the game to lose the game ratio.... If his teammates aint producing then he will takeover himself, if he is on fire he will logically heatcheck until he misses at least once... He plays the game simply within the flow of the offense, whatever the defense gives him he makes you pay...

Its just extremly smart & unselfish basketball.... similar to Larry Bird & Magic Johnson and that is the main reason why i like Lebrons game just like i liked theirs...

Yet Mr. Perfect has one ring.

[305Baller]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lry2ymLdj01r1m5qho1_500.gif

[pauk]

Yet Mr. Perfect has one ring.

Unfortunately this is not tennis.... last time i checked at least...

Even if you are the most talented, skilled, dominant, most productive player to ever lace up a pair of sneakers you may NEVER sniff a championship if you dont have the required supporting cast.....

If this truly was tennis (1on1) then Lebron would had lets just say very many championships by now....

PS: Another "mr Perfect" (Jordan) had one ring at this age aswell... but less MVPs... Lebron is fine...

[Magic 32]

Unfortunately this is not tennis.... last time i checked at least...

Even if you are the most talented, skilled, dominant, most productive player to ever lace up a pair of sneakers you may NEVER sniff a championship if you dont have the required supporting cast.....

If this truly was tennis (1on1) then Lebron would had lets just say very many championships by now....

and you also can't win if you don't show up in 2 out of 3 finals.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You people are ridiculous. Forget the scoring, as an all-around player, he was unbelievable tonight. Point blank.

In that mode, Lebron is as unique of a player there has EVER been. Nothing is "vague" about that statement. :oldlol:

[Boston C's]

You people are ridiculous. Forget the scoring, as an all-around player, he was unbelievable tonight. Point blank.

In that mode, Lebron is as unique of a player there has EVER been. Nothing is "vague" about that statement. :oldlol:

Really nothing at all...u sure about that because I'm sure a shitload of legends have had a dominant stretch like that at least once before...just sayin

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Really nothing at all...u sure about that because I'm sure a shitload of legends have had a dominant stretch like that at least once before...just sayin

There haven't been a "shit load" of legends w/ Lebron's complete game. Just stop.

Recognize greatness when it's in front of you...I'll leave it at that.

[Graviton]

You people are ridiculous. Forget the scoring, as an all-around player, he was unbelievable tonight. Point blank.

In that mode, Lebron is as unique of a player there has EVER been. Nothing is "vague" about that statement. :oldlol:
Shoulda just specified how it wasn't just the scoring, that spin move bullet pass to Haslem for the open jumper when Lebron made like 3 shots in a row was a perfect example. He coulda easily scored that himself but decided to hit up Haslem, and UD actually got hot in that quarter too and kept dropping them baseline bombs.

[imdaman99]

yeah i hate lebron but he went off in the 3rd quarter. so much that i turned off the game and decided to watch a movie :lol

[tazb]

:applause: :banana: :rockon: Unstoppable.

[secund2nun]

Why are people so freakin stupid sometimes.

Kobe has exploded in games and dominated teams like almost no one in history. Some of his performances make LeBrons today look below average. Haters are just freakin lame sometimes

Kobe does not belong on that list with the other players. He is not on their level. Now players like Shaq and Duncan belong on it.

[tpols]

There haven't been a "shit load" of legends w/ Lebron's complete game. Just stop.

Recognize greatness when it's in front of you...I'll leave it at that.
There have been a shit load of legends to go off for 16 points and 4 assists or whatever it was in a quarter.

Paul fvcking George scored 13 with a few dimes to open up the first quarter of this game.

[Boston C's]

There haven't been a "shit load" of legends w/ Lebron's complete game. Just stop.

Recognize greatness when it's in front of you...I'll leave it at that.

back up to my statement and look at the end...of course I recognize greatness lebrons a ****in beast but what your saying is absolutely false its not about the all around game or how anyone stacks up to lebron your thread is saying that for a specific period of time lebron is about as good as anyone...all im saying is that for a specific period of time you can say that just about any all time great

[Boston C's]

There have been a shit load of legends to go off for 16 points and 4 assists or whatever it was in a quarter.

Paul fvcking George scored 13 with a few dimes to open up the first quarter of this game.

thats exactly where im getting at

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Shoulda just specified how it wasn't just the scoring, that spin move bullet pass to Haslem for the open jumper when Lebron made like 3 shots in a row was a perfect example. He coulda easily scored that himself but decided to hit up Haslem, and UD actually got hot in that quarter too and kept dropping them baseline bombs.

Good point. As another poster mentioned, the sheer combination of athleticism, speed, inside scoring, midrange shots and 3PT bombs ... was really Jordan-esque.

When he opened up that play for Haslem? Shit was next level. :oldlol:

[pauk]

and you also can't win if you don't show up in 2 out of 3 finals.

Its hard to show up 1on5 all the time, especially against that overwhelming Spurs team as a 21 year old accompanied with detrimental teammates, his 2007 finals, which speaks for his impact by itself, that was the worst team to ever be in a NBA Finals, ever.... Lebron had to make miracles happen, cure cancer and stop global warming to get that team to the Finals (see the series before that)...... If Lebron won the championship there it would have been hypothetically the 1st time in NBA history someone literally won a championship ALONE, it certainly would be the closest thing to that criteria, easily the greatest championship run in NBA history....

To discredit Lebron for 2007 Finals is like trying to discredit the Fiat Punto driver that came 2nd in a Formula 1 race.... yes he didnt win... but... i think he made the best out of what he had to work with there, more so than anybody else ever could....

Its also hard to be selfish or play the way you usually want to when you come to a new team which consists of new offense, different role and of two other stars where you try to learn to play/contemplate with them to findout which strategy is the most successful, who was gona be the 1st option/alpha, who was gona take the last shot, who who who.... hence have chemistry problems.... it took as expected a year for them to go through that process (which Lakers are going through right now) but they still got to Finals ....

...and no, its not more prestigious to lose in 1st round or miss playoffs and be 0/0 in Finals than it is to lose in Finals and be 0/1...

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

There have been a shit load of legends to go off for 16 points and 4 assists or whatever it was in a quarter.

Paul fvcking George scored 13 with a few dimes to open up the first quarter of this game.

:oldlol:

This is the shit I'm talking about. ****ing binge posting.

[thabisyo]

LeBeast was angry

:bowdown:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2699773/mothaffffff.gif

Now, lets rip the Spurs apart :applause:

[tpols]

back up to my statement and look at the end...of course I recognize greatness lebrons a ****in beast but what your saying is absolutely false its not about the all around game or how anyone stacks up to lebron your thread is saying that for a specific period of time lebron is about as good as anyone...all im saying is that for a specific period of time you can say that just about any all time great
Exactly.. there is a long long list of players dropping 20 in a quarter. Same thing with16 and a handful of dimes.

Great quarter and game by Bron.

Best ever?lol no.

He had 30/8/6.

That is slightly above average for top 10 GOATs

[Boston C's]

:oldlol:

This is the shit I'm talking about. ****ing binge posting.

If you were more specific myself along with tpols probably wouldnt have mixed that up...when you touched up on the athleticism, speed, force, etc what your saying made more sense

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

If you were more specific myself along with tpols probably wouldnt have mixed that up...when you touched up on the athleticism, speed, force, etc what your saying made more sense

I shouldn't have to specify myself. If you watched the game, you would understand where I'm coming from.

[Magic 32]

Its hard to show up 1on5 all the time, especially against that overwhelming Spurs team as a 21 year old accompanied with detrimental teammates, his 2007 finals, which speaks for his impact by itself, that was the worst team to ever be in a NBA Finals, ever.... Lebron had to make miracles happen, cure cancer and stop global warming to get that team to the Finals (see the series before that)...... If Lebron won the championship there it would have been hypothetically the 1st time in NBA history someone literally won a championship ALONE, it certainly would be the closest thing to that criteria, easily the greatest championship run in NBA history....

To discredit Lebron for 2007 Finals is like trying to discredit the Fiat Punto driver that came 2nd in a Formula 1 race.... yes he didnt win... but....



I'm not asking him to win that series. Just to show up once in awhile. If his team was historically bad, so was his performance.



Its also hard to be selfish or play the way you usually want to when you come to a new team which consists of new offense, different role and of two other stars where you try to learn to play/contemplate with them to findout which strategy is the most successful, who was gona be the 1st option/alpha, who was gona take the last shot, who who who.... hence have chemistry problems.... it took as expected a year for them to go through that process (which Lakers are going through right now) but they still got to Finals ....


Didn't seem to be a problem in first 3 rounds. Didn't seem to be a problem for Wade.

[lakerspng]

Kobe does not belong on that list with the other players. He is not on their level. Now players like Shaq and Duncan belong on it.

Duncan has dominated games single handedly, but Kobe has not.... okay, I can tell you're playing with a full deck.

[Boston C's]

I shouldn't have to specify myself. If you watched the game, you would understand where I'm coming from.

Sorta...I get what your saying and it was fantastic and all but I've seen plenty of other great players be as dominant if not more dominant then what lebron showed tonight

btw kobe haters just stop kobe had a habit of ripping entire teams a new a$$hole by himself

and for kuniva...lebron in 07 against the pistons was easily the best stretch of play lebron has shown given the circumstances and what he did...clearly he wasn't as good in 07 as he is now but what he did against the pistons in game 5 was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in basketball

[tpols]

I shouldn't have to specify myself. If you watched the game, you would understand where I'm coming from.
Well the dumbass who made my sand which at halftime fvcked it up and I missed most of brons barrage.

Saw the 3 that capped it off plus highlights.Mustve been a great stretch

[TonyMontana]

same could be said for any of the "all time greats"

when certain guys get in a zone and recognize it and get aggressive... they're untouchable.

Jordan, Bird, Kobe, LeBron, Shaq... When you have all world talent and you're rolling, no defense is good enough and nothing can stop you.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

[LongLiveTheKing]

yeah i hate lebron but he went off in the 3rd quarter. so much that i turned off the game and decided to watch a movie :lol
This is fckn sad!
:roll:
At least you admitted it though. :cheers:

[tpols]

Duncan has dominated games single handedly, but Kobe has not.... okay, I can tell you're playing with a full deck.
There are countless barrages from Kobe in the early 2000s against the spurs that had people scratching their heads comparing him to mj

Wcf against the suns when he tapped Alvin gentry on the ass after the face palm lol..kobe different though.he was bombing over doubles unstoppable in the zone. It was him alone on the court shooting in the gym back then

[Magic 32]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRa3QXoppJ0

[Lebron23]

http://www.donthatemiami.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/lebron-hulk.jpg

[lakerspng]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

stupid trolls.

Let me know when LeBron outscores a team by himself through 3 quarters. while you're at it, why don't you go and find where Jordan did that.

[tazb]

stupid trolls.

Let me know when LeBron outscores a team by himself through 3 quarters. while you're at it, why don't you go and find where Jordan did that.

Regular season, no one cares.

[pauk]

I'm not asking him to win that series. Just to show up once in awhile. If his team was historically bad, so was his performance.

I understand, but you have to consider the circumstances, see why it happened and be fair... its not like it has never happened to a superstar before anyways, especially when speaking of that players nick you are using who they used to call Tragic Johnson at some point (have nothing against Magic, love the guy, just hinting at rationality here)... no player in NBA history has ever performed up to his standards 24-7... especially not in all playoff series... no, not even Michael Jordan...



Didn't seem to be a problem in first 3 rounds. Didn't seem to be a problem for Wade.

Actually, Wade had the most problems that season & playoffs, luckily the least in the Finals (until Game 5 & Game 6) as he had the hot hand.... Wade was horrible in ECF for example, much worse than Lebron did in the Finals, Lebron stepped up huge and got them to the Finals...

Wade had all of the sudden the hot hand in the Finals, Lebron took the backseat and defered, thats exactly what happened, they had that "my turn your turn" offense that year, its not like Lebron played/shot bad or something.... for you to "choke" you have to at least TRY, Lebron didnt.... he took extremly few FG attempts (less than any of his playoff series) and simply led everybody in assists, he was passive but for obvious reason (Wade mostly).... the Heat were actually doing good, many forget that, but its in the clutch where both Lebron/Wade were not able to deliver enough (even though Lebron didnt get many shots in there either).... and it seems like Dirk Nowitzki/Mavs were just not gona be stopped, they played out of their mind, Dirk played like the best player on the planet all of the sudden in the playoffs and next season went back to his old self where he played at a level you could debate he wasnt a top 10 or even a top 15 player...

Anyways, its not until Wade next year went and i quote "This is Lebrons team, he is our best player, i need to take the backseat for this team to be successful" where things started to really happen.... and im sure you saw what happened... not only to Lebron, but to that entire team...

Like i said.... everything would be so easy if NBA was was something like tennis... 1on1...

[gengiskhan]

:oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

thats when I started laughing too.

Bird, Jordan, Shaq, LBJ has two words in common. SHEER DOMINATION.

what is Kobe doing in that list.

Kobe barely played at Barkley's level. its amazing how much these kobe'tards & laker stans try hard to make kobe Top 10 GOAT which he can never be.

all-time great is all-time great. Thats about it. NEVER top 10 GOATs.

lets leave it at that.

[gengiskhan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRa3QXoppJ0

First Round . :lol

#8th seed. :lol :lol

LAL @ home. :lol :lol

against DEN, scrub franchise cannot play defense. :roll:

something half fit, baseball conditioned, 1995 comeback MJ did against HORNETs

a 48 pts game 1 vs Hornets ON THE ROAD!! in 1995 First Round!!

nothing new!!

[Magic 32]

I understand, but you have to consider the circumstances, see why it happened and be fair... its not like it has never happened to a superstar before anyways, especially when speaking of that players nick you are using who they used to call Tragic Johnson at some point (have nothing against Magic, love the guy, just hinting at rationality here)... no player in NBA history has ever performed up to his standards 24-7... especially not in all playoff series... no, not even Michael Jordan...


Magic became Tragic because of 2 or 3 bad plays at the end of games.

He was otherwise excellent, especially in game 4 and 6.

If Lebron gets credit for beating the Pistons, he should get some blame for his play against the Spurs.



Actually, Wade had the most problems that season & playoffs, luckily the least in the Finals (until Game 5 & Game 6) as he had the hot hand.... Wade was horrible in ECF for example, much worse than Lebron did in the Finals, Lebron stepped up huge and got them to the Finals...

Wade had all of the sudden the hot hand in the Finals, Lebron took the backseat and defered, thats exactly what happened, they had that "my turn your turn" offense that year, its not like Lebron played/shot bad or something.... for you to "choke" you have to at least TRY, Lebron didnt.... he took extremly few FG attempts (less than any of his playoff series) and simply led everybody in assists, he was passive but for obvious reason (Wade mostly).... the Heat were actually doing good, many forget that, but its in the clutch where both Lebron/Wade were not able to deliver enough (even though Lebron didnt get many shots in there either).... and it seems like Dirk Nowitzki/Mavs were just not gona be stopped, they played out of their mind, Dirk played like the best player on the planet all of the sudden in the playoffs and next season went back to his old self where he played at a level you could debate he wasnt a top 10 or even a top 15 player...

Anyways, its not until Wade next year went and i quote "This is Lebrons team, he is our best player, i need to take the backseat for this team to be successful" where things started to really happen.... and im sure you saw what happened... not only to Lebron, but to that entire team...


To me, this is just a game of semantics and pop psychology.

You can create an elaborate psychological profile on why Kobe choked in 04 as well.

It's not going to get you anywhere.

[Magic 32]

First Round . :lol

#8th seed. :lol :lol

LAL @ home. :lol :lol

against DEN, scrub franchise cannot play defense. :roll:

something half fit, baseball conditioned, 1995 comeback MJ did against HORNETs

a 48 pts game 1 vs Hornets ON THE ROAD!! in 1995 First Round!!

nothing new!!


35 pts. 10 assists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFbLiuFHbT0

I can do this all night by the way (and you know it).

[KG215]

Actually, Wade had the most problems that season & playoffs, luckily the least in the Finals (until Game 5 & Game 6) as he had the hot hand.... Wade was horrible in ECF for example, much worse than Lebron did in the Finals, Lebron stepped up huge and got them to the Finals...

Wade had all of the sudden the hot hand in the Finals, Lebron took the backseat and defered, thats exactly what happened, they had that "my turn your turn" offense that year, its not like Lebron played/shot bad or something.... for you to "choke" you have to at least TRY, Lebron didnt.... he took extremly few FG attempts (less than any of his playoff series) and simply led everybody in assists, he was passive but for obvious reason (Wade mostly).... the Heat were actually doing good, many forget that, but its in the clutch where both Lebron/Wade were not able to deliver enough (even though Lebron didnt get many shots in there either).... and it seems like Dirk Nowitzki/Mavs were just not gona be stopped, they played out of their mind, Dirk played like the best player on the planet all of the sudden in the playoffs and next season went back to his old self where he played at a level you could debate he wasnt a top 10 or even a top 15 player...
So I take it you still subscribe to the theory that Wade cost Miami the 2011 championship?

[Soundwave]

I'm glad to see LeBron bring it to that level, because that's what great players do. That type of intense focus and competitiveness. To me LeBron didn't have that before, but he's added it since winning the first championship.

The scary thing about Jordan is he would do "that" sometimes 2-3 times in a single playoff round, where he would will his team to win.

[All Net]

That's what the great ones do..when their team needs them in a tight series they step up.

He needs to do it again in game 6

[Doranku]

Actually, Wade had the most problems that season & playoffs, luckily the least in the Finals (until Game 5 & Game 6) as he had the hot hand.... Wade was horrible in ECF for example, much worse than Lebron did in the Finals, Lebron stepped up huge and got them to the Finals...

Wade had all of the sudden the hot hand in the Finals, Lebron took the backseat and defered, thats exactly what happened, they had that "my turn your turn" offense that year, its not like Lebron played/shot bad or something.... for you to "choke" you have to at least TRY, Lebron didnt.... he took extremly few FG attempts (less than any of his playoff series) and simply led everybody in assists, he was passive but for obvious reason (Wade mostly).... the Heat were actually doing good, many forget that, but its in the clutch where both Lebron/Wade were not able to deliver enough (even though Lebron didnt get many shots in there either).... and it seems like Dirk Nowitzki/Mavs were just not gona be stopped, they played out of their mind, Dirk played like the best player on the planet all of the sudden in the playoffs and next season went back to his old self where he played at a level you could debate he wasnt a top 10 or even a top 15 player...

Anyways, its not until Wade next year went and i quote "This is Lebrons team, he is our best player, i need to take the backseat for this team to be successful" where things started to really happen.... and im sure you saw what happened... not only to Lebron, but to that entire team...

Like i said.... everything would be so easy if NBA was was something like tennis... 1on1...
:roll: Bron's finals performance was just as bad as Wade's ECF performance. They were a wash against Philly, and Wade averaged 30 against Boston. What kind of revisionist history is this?

[K Xerxes]

I'm glad to see LeBron bring it to that level, because that's what great players do. That type of intense focus and competitiveness. To me LeBron didn't have that before, but he's added it since winning the first championship.

The scary thing about Jordan is he would do "that" sometimes 2-3 times in a single playoff round, where he would will his team to win.

It's not something LeBron ever wants to do, I feel. He doesn't have the mindset to just take over, he always wants to win as a team, and ensure everyone gets their fair share. It's his predisposition.

People compare him to Jordan, but he really is just different. I honestly think he prefers to see Wade and Bosh each go for 30 points than him dropping 45 by himself, and I'd imagine he prides himself more on games where he gets double digit assists than 40 points.

We all say 'why doesn't he have that game 6 look every time?' Well, I just don't think he wants to unless his team's back is really against the wall. He could, and I'm sure his stats would be all time great if he carried it all the time, but it's not in his nature.

This is just my opinion of course.

[NumberSix]

LeBron. BULLY.

Kobe. Crybaby.

[STATUTORY]

LeBron. BULLY!

UD. BULLY!!

Heat. BULLY!!!

this made me :oldlol: cause the lazy eyed black man in the vid was hilarious

[dh144498]

lebron played great this game. Gotta give him props. :applause:

[Mr Exlax]

lebron played great this game. Gotta give him props. :applause:

WTF? :biggums:

[dh144498]

WTF? :biggums:

???

[Mr Exlax]

???

You.....you gave.....Lebron James..a.....a com.....compliment?!?! :biggums:

[dh144498]

You.....you gave.....Lebron James..a.....a com.....compliment?!?! :biggums:

I give credit where credit is due. I'm objective.

[Mr Exlax]

I give credit where credit is due. I'm objective.

So this isn't the first time you gave him credit?

[dh144498]

So this isn't the first time you gave him credit?

no. I gave him last year's finals, game 6 vs Boston, Indiana, etc.

[KG215]

:roll: Bron's finals performance was just as bad as Wade's ECF performance. They were a wash against Philly, and Wade averaged 30 against Boston. What kind of revisionist history is this?
It's pauk. He's convinced Wade cost the Heat and LeBron the championship that year.