who are some of the best NBA "enforcers" of all time

[KayHaven]

Aka the Bullies....

After watching West and Haslem almost square off...the enforcer role is an extremely important role on a team..especially if u can find one who can actually play...

The ones that come off top of head are...

Oakley
Anthony Mason
Bill Laimbeer
Ben Wallace
Kendrick Perkins (celtics)
David West
Robert Parrish
Xavier McDaniel
Michael Jordan
David West
Shaq
Mahorn
Barkley

Who else

[Shepseskaf]

Maurice Lucas

/thread

EDIT: You're including Jordan as an enforcer? Not in my book. Oakley had to protect him.

[Zodiac]

Malone's Elbow

[K Xerxes]

Chris Bosh.

[NumberSix]

Birdman. BULLY!!

[jlip]

Aka the Bullies....

After watching West and Haslem almost square off...the enforcer role is an extremely important role on a team..especially if u can find one who can actually play...

The ones that come off top of head are...

Oakley
Anthony Mason
Bill Laimbeer
Ben Wallace
Kendrick Perkins (celtics)
David West
Robert Parrish
Xavier McDaniel
Michael Jordan
David West
Shaq
Mahorn
Barkley

Who else

WHAT!!!??

[fpliii]

Those Russell Celtics had a few guys (Lovellette, Loscutoff, Naulls) in their day.

[KayHaven]

WHAT!!!??

Jordan was one of the most intense dudes on the courts and if u ****ed with him he made u pay...Jordan was in many scuffles and arguments..I think he did his bullying a little different then some of these players up here..but there's no doubt at least to me he could be considered an enforcer

[FatComputerNerd]

Rodman

Russell

[LONGTIME]

Isiah Thomas

[cos88]

michael jordan enforcer :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[TheTruth#34]

Rondo

[Scholar]

How about Metta World Peace?

[FatComputerNerd]

Payton

Played tough D and talked so much trash to get into peoples' heads

[AintNoSunshine]

I think the "enforcer" is normally someone other than the star, because they are unexpendable and cannot risk ejection by getting involved into the confrontation or whatever

[Dagouch]

Being a 90's Knicks fan the Davis Boys, Antonio and Dale Davis always gave us a battle.

[kshutts1]

Rodman should be added, and I guess David West is so good he deserved mention twice?

Take Jordan off the list.

Kurt Thomas? The guy that sucker-punched Kareem (Or was it the other way around?) Ron Artest (not MWP, though). Bill Cartwright's elbows.

[Rooster]

Rick Mahorn

The Baddest of them all Bad Boys

Also the McFilthy and McNasty

Duo with Jeff Ruland

[FatComputerNerd]

Can't forget Davis and Davis

[ProfessorMurder]

Kendrick Perkins wasn't really an enforcer... Let alone on the level with some of those real guys on the list.

[jlip]

Jordan was one of the most intense dudes on the courts and if u ****ed with him he made u pay...Jordan was in many scuffles and arguments..I think he did his bullying a little different then some of these players up here..but there's no doubt at least to me he could be considered an enforcer

Evidently we have two completely different definitions of an enforcer, because MJ is the last name that comes to mind when I think of an enforcer. As a matter of fact, he is the type of player who would be protected from the other team's enforcer. Also having an occassional argument or scuffle doesn't qualify one to be an "enforcer."

[ThaRegul8r]

WHAT!!!??

Jordan's a must on any "best" list. Didn't you know, he's the consensus GOAT. Therefore it's mandatory for him to be on any list asking for the best ___________.

[JMT]

Maurice Lucas

/thread



Top of the list.

Maybe Mahorn and Ruland when they played together. McFilthy and McNasty

[Goldrush25]

Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley were the first two names that came to mind for me.

[lakerspng]

Kurt Rambis was the undercover thug for the Lakers... don't let the goggles fool you.

Kevin McHale for the Celtics.

Dennis Rodman was for the second 3-peat Bulls

a great team needs to have a guy that will get dirty and nasty when necessary. MWP is as close as it gets in today's game though.

[gengiskhan]

Payton
Oakley
Rodman of bad boys
Dumars
Jordan of '80s (never seen a better weak side shot blocker & weak side ball stealer than 1984-1989 MJ)

[Nezty]

Can Kenyon Martin be considered one?

[get these NETS]

Maurice Lucas was no enforcer

he got the tag when he stepped in for a teammate that Daryl Dawkins was punking during the Finals

(dudes threw punches....connected...lot of dudes squaring off and NO ejections.....blazers sixers finals)


he was a great teammate who stepped in to protect his guy a la Haslem


to me enforcer is a guy who isn't a defender but an aggressor who strikes fear and intimidation in heart of other team



Mahorn was that guy


if anybdy on ish can find the vidoe..I've seen cli p fMahorn taking on half of Chicago in early Jordan era...

I kid you not......MJ...Oakley....Doug Collins all went after him......he took them all on....

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lambier
Rodman
Mahorn
Karl Malone
Barkley
Oakley
Mason
Starks

And plenty more ... mostly 80's and 90's era players. The enforcer position has disappeared in the modern game, because there are such few physicla rivalries and tough physical play.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lambier
Rodman
Mahorn
Karl Malone
Barkley
Oakley
Mason
Starks
Dale Davis

And plenty more ... mostly 80's and 90's era players. The enforcer position has disappeared in the modern game, because there are such few physicla rivalries and tough physical play.

[HYJ]

Should include Alvin Robertson.

[JMT]

Maurice Lucas was no enforcer

to me enforcer is a guy who isn't a defender but an aggressor who strikes fear and intimidation in heart of other team

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I'm guessing you weren't alive for Lucas' career. Not a slam, just a guess.

Half the league was terrified of Lucas. The only difference between he and Mahorn is skill level. Lucas could actually play the game, but that didn't detract from his intimidation factor. He was the definition of an enforcer. Nobody messed with Walton because they'd have to deal with Lucas.

[get these NETS]

I'm guessing you weren't alive for Lucas' career. Not a slam, just a guess.

Half the league was terrified of Lucas. The only difference between he and Mahorn is skill level. Lucas could actually play the game, but that didn't detract from his intimidation factor. He was the definition of an enforcer. Nobody messed with Walton because they'd have to deal with Lucas.


I read that Calvin Murphy had half the league shook also...point guard Calvin Murphy


and that nobody wanted ANY parts of him


Doesn't make him an enforcer in my view, neither is Lucas.



My NBA knowledge runs deep, brother....I'm no expert f course but don't discount my VIEWpoint because I wasn't following basketballl when I was 6 years old when lucas punked DD .


Again...Mahorn took on half the city of Chicago...by himself....he went out there to intimidate other players....HE was my def. of an enforcer.

[get these NETS]

Again...Mahorn took on half the city of Chicago...by himself....

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-01-19/sports/8803230712_1_fined-rick-mahorn-collins


he National Basketball Association handed down penalties for participants in the fight that marred the Bulls` 115-99 victory over Detroit Saturday night at the Stadium.

Detroit power forward Rick Mahorn was fined $5,000 and suspended for the Pistons` game Monday at Denver. Bulls power forward Charles Oakley was fined $2,000 and coach Doug Collins $1,500. In addition, Bulls Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant and Granville Waiters and Pistons John Salley and Vinnie Johnson were each fined $500 for leaving the bench.



The brawl in the third quarter was ignited by Mahorn grabbing Michael Jordan around the waist and throwing him to the court. Oakley immediately went after Mahorn. Their skirmish drifted into the Bulls` bench, where Collins put a headlock on Mahorn. Mahorn flung Collins into the press table and when Collins rejoined the fray, Mahorn punched him. Mahorn and Oakley were ejected from the game.

``The Board of Governors adopted a resolution in October making it clear that flagrant fouls in half-court play will not be tolerated and will be subject to the most severe penalties,`` Rod Thorn, NBA vice president of operations, said about Mahorn`s act. ``This was a blatant example of the very type of action the Board of Governors was trying to eliminate.``

[tpols]

Looking up Maurice Lucas..

His fvcking nickname was 'the enforcer'

lol

[Burgz V2]

Jordan was one of the most intense dudes on the courts and if u ****ed with him he made u pay...Jordan was in many scuffles and arguments..I think he did his bullying a little different then some of these players up here..but there's no doubt at least to me he could be considered an enforcer

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[ProfessorMurder]

Should include Alvin Robertson.

^ And Vernon Maxwell

[Guy Ledouche]

Maybe John Brisker?

I can't really say since he played before my time, but apparently he was extremely violent.

[Big#50]

David Robinson.

[D.J.]

-Oakley
-X
-Mason
-Mahorn

[Sarcastic]

Ivan Johnson for this generation.

[TonyMontana]

Heat Enforcers
-PJ Brown
-Alonzo Mourning
-Udonis Haslem

[secund2nun]

Jordan was one of the most intense dudes on the courts and if u ****ed with him he made u pay...Jordan was in many scuffles and arguments..I think he did his bullying a little different then some of these players up here..but there's no doubt at least to me he could be considered an enforcer

He is not an enforcer at all. People need to stop with this Jordan is everything BS. What next? Jordan is a big man?

Enforcer refers to a big man who enforces the paint with rebounding, defense , hard hits. I'm sorry but a 215 pound 6'6 shooting guard is not an enforcer.

[unknowns8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ugvyzI1AYU


Jordan's an enforcer, huh...? :facepalm

r u kidding me buddy? :confusedshrug:

here's a clip showing Jordan being the instigator of a fight (he fights thru a Laimbeer screen illegally) and Oakley coming in to be the enforcer of the same fight (he pushes Laimbeer 10ft down the court to protect Jordan)

if u dont understand after watching then :wtf: :biggums:

[unknowns8]

check this game out - especially the Laimbeer foul on Pippen @ 2:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZX8cvHtnjQ

... love the reaction of all the players involved, classic 80's NBA action goin on there

7:45 = sweeeeeeeeeeeeet :bowdown:

[Horatio33]

Xavier McDaniel.

[unknowns8]

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-01-19/sports/8803230712_1_fined-rick-mahorn-collins


he National Basketball Association handed down penalties for participants in the fight that marred the Bulls` 115-99 victory over Detroit Saturday night at the Stadium.

Detroit power forward Rick Mahorn was fined $5,000 and suspended for the Pistons` game Monday at Denver. Bulls power forward Charles Oakley was fined $2,000 and coach Doug Collins $1,500. In addition, Bulls Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant and Granville Waiters and Pistons John Salley and Vinnie Johnson were each fined $500 for leaving the bench.



The brawl in the third quarter was ignited by Mahorn grabbing Michael Jordan around the waist and throwing him to the court. Oakley immediately went after Mahorn. Their skirmish drifted into the Bulls` bench, where Collins put a headlock on Mahorn. Mahorn flung Collins into the press table and when Collins rejoined the fray, Mahorn punched him. Mahorn and Oakley were ejected from the game.

``The Board of Governors adopted a resolution in October making it clear that flagrant fouls in half-court play will not be tolerated and will be subject to the most severe penalties,`` Rod Thorn, NBA vice president of operations, said about Mahorn`s act. ``This was a blatant example of the very type of action the Board of Governors was trying to eliminate.``





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZcqM294c7E



... pretty sure the fight discussed in the above Tribune article is at the beginning of this youtube clip ... :cheers:

[Fudge]

No mention of Mourning?

[Burgz V2]

ill take Oak and Mo Lucas over everyone.

[Doranku]

Did OP really call Scrubdrick Scrubkins an enforcer? :oldlol:

[AT9]

Stephen Jackson was the closest thing to an "enforcer" that the Spurs have had recently.

[thefatmiral]

Barkley , grandmama

[Solid Snake]

Aka the Bullies....

After watching West and Haslem almost square off...the enforcer role is an extremely important role on a team..especially if u can find one who can actually play...

The ones that come off top of head are...

Oakley
Anthony Mason
Bill Laimbeer
Ben Wallace
Kendrick Perkins (celtics)
David West
Robert Parrish
Xavier McDaniel
Michael Jordan
David West
Shaq
Mahorn
Barkley

Who else



Actually Big Ben and Shaq aren't "enforcers" in the way you defined them. An enforcer is someone who has a little bit of that "nasty" in them, quick to run to help a teammate and then get up in the face of the opponent and posture and preen and intimidate.


Shaq and Ben Wallace didn't do that.


Ben Wallace just got respect from opponent naturally for being legit tough and not a fake thug. When's the last time you've seen Ben Wallace in any kind of altercation on the court OTHER than the Ron Artest example? I literally can't think of an example.

Shaq is not an enforcer either. I shouldn't have to explain why. He was physically intimidating, but didn't "enforce" in the way you described.

The Jordan one I gotta think about some more.

[HomieWeMajor]

Byron Scott

[get these NETS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZcqM294c7E



... pretty sure the fight discussed in the above Tribune article is at the beginning of this youtube clip ... :cheers:
thanks in advance


gonna watch later

[get these NETS]

oh..and while you're bullshitting*, vernon maxwell qualifies as an enforcer of sorts


MAD MAX was that dude....

* 90s slang

[inclinerator]

charles james

[JMT]

My NBA knowledge runs deep, brother....I'm no expert f course but don't discount my VIEWpoint because I wasn't following basketballl when I was 6 years old when lucas punked DD .


Again...Mahorn took on half the city of Chicago...by himself....he went out there to intimidate other players....HE was my def. of an enforcer.

Difference here is that I never discounted your viewpoint OR Mahorn as an enforcer, just said that only someone lacking knowledge of that era would discount Lucas as the same.

You, on the other hand, because of the depth of your basketball knowledge, discounted the opinion of someone who actually watched the player you have no first-hand knowledge of.

[get these NETS]

I read that Calvin Murphy had half the league shook also...point guard Calvin Murphy


and that nobody wanted ANY parts of him


Doesn't make him an enforcer in my view, neither is Lucas.



My NBA knowledge runs deep, brother....I'm no expert f course but don't discount my VIEWpoint because I wasn't following basketballl when I was 6 years old when lucas punked DD .


Again...Mahorn took on half the city of Chicago...by himself....he went out there to intimidate other players....HE was my def. of an enforcer.
@JMT
yeah this was my full reply.


your thoughts on calvin murphy being an enforcer.....using YOUR definition?

also, why did you not address full quote?