Lebron takes a shot at his teammates.

[Nebraskanball]

Said, "I had to go back to my Cleveland days."

We all know what he means. Wow, Lebron is gonna tear that locker room apart.

[chosen_one6]

Said, "I had to go back to my Cleveland days."

We all know what he means. Wow, Lebron is gonna tear that locker room apart.

Source? You can't just pull quotes from the air with no context and no source.

[dh144498]

Source? You can't just pull quotes from the air with no context and no source.

[Nebraskanball]

Source? You can't just pull quotes from the air with no context and no source.
ESPN radio. The Herd. It was a sound byte/voice clip.
He said it.

[Inactive]

Source? You can't just pull quotes from the air with no context and no source.http://www.nba.com/heat/video/originals

About a minute and a half into Lebron's post game interview.

[Trollsmasher]

Playoffs:
2009 Mo: 16/4, .530 TS%
2013 Wade: 14/6, .499 TS%

2009 Jamison: 15/7, .540 TS%
2013 Bosh : 13/6, .570 TS%

:confusedshrug:

[ripthekik]

This guy makes everyone around him play like scrubs :facepalm

[dh144498]

This guy makes everyone around him play like scrubs :facepalm

this.

[Nebraskanball]

Playoffs:
2009 Mo: 16/4, .530 TS%
2013 Wade: 14/6, .499 TS%

2009 Jamison: 15/7, .540 TS%
2013 Bosh : 13/6, .570 TS%

:confusedshrug:
At this point, maybe it's Lebron? :confusedshrug:
Why can't he get his teammates involved?

[chosen_one6]

[QUOTE=dh144498]

[dh144498]

I already know some people are going to spin it that way. It doesn't surprise me.

I think he was trying to say he wanted to carry the team on his back mentally and physically. He did a good job of that. The team was playing like sh*t in the first half.

but why mention Cleveland? His most successful year was 2012, why Cleveland?

[jlip]

Source? You can't just pull quotes from the air with no context and no source.

Lebron did say that. I saw the interview on Sportscenter, but it was not a shot at his teammates. The OP is a Lebron hater. 99% of his posts are anti Lebron/ Heat. I think that it's actually someone's alt.

Anyways, Lebron was asked about his performance last night, and he basically said that he reverted back to the aggressiveness and take over mentality he had back in Cleveland.

[Inactive]

At this point, maybe it's Lebron? :confusedshrug:
Why can't he get his teammates involved?They were involved the whole first half. If anything he's playing within the offense too much, since everyone loosened up after he took over in the 3rd.

[Trollsmasher]

At this point, maybe it's Lebron? :confusedshrug:
Why can't he get his teammates involved?
Why can't Wade hit a single jumpshot? Why can't Bosh get up an attempt at the rim without getting it swatted by Hibbert?

[chosen_one6]

but why mention Cleveland? His most successful year was 2012, why Cleveland?

In Cleveland he was THE guy. It seems to me he doesn't feel that way about his time in Miami, up until game 5 last night. I'm just reading the tea leaves, there's no way for you or I to know what he actually meant.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Source? You can't just pull quotes from the air with no context and no source.
copy, google, paste, search. simple as pie baby girl.

[chosen_one6]

Lebron did say that. I saw the interview on Sportscenter, but it was not a shot at his teammates. The OP is a Lebron hater. 99% of his posts are anti Lebron/ Heat. I think that it's actually someone's alt.

Anyways, Lebron was asked about his performance last night, and he basically said that he reverted back to the aggressiveness and take over mentality he had back in Cleveland.

Yea, that's what I alluded to in my second post. :cheers:

[Nebraskanball]

I think that it's actually someone's alt.

Uhhhhh.

[jzek]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301658

[DuMa]

If it gets Wade and Bosh out of their funks, then good lebron served his purpose.

[tmacattack33]

In the third quarter, he had the ball on basically every possession and was very aggressive with the ball...he didn't just dribble up the floor and hand the ball off to someone and then take the possession off. That was very much like his Cleveland days. So, he said it reminded him of his Cleveland days. That is all.

If you want to infer something that isn't there, then go ahead.

[Solefade]

LeBron shouldn't be okay with how his teammates are playing. He needs to do everything he can even if it's "taking shots at his teammates".


They're not gonna win the chip if Wade and Bosh continue to play like this.

[SpecialQue]

I already know some people are going to spin it that way. It doesn't surprise me.

I think he was trying to say he wanted to carry the team on his back mentally and physically. He did a good job of that. The team was playing like sh*t in the first half.

This is true. He went back to Lebron-ball and of course they raped.

Now that Lebron's improved his game to the point where it probably can't get any better, he really needs to work on his PR skills. He says stupid shit that can be misinterpreted all the fvcking time. He comes off like a jackass during interviews, and considering his position in the NBA now, he should know better.

[tazb]

I already know some people are going to spin it that way. It doesn't surprise me.

I think he was trying to say he wanted to carry the team on his back mentally and physically. He did a good job of that. The team was playing like sh*t in the first half.

This.

[Solefade]

This is true. He went back to Lebron-ball and of course they raped.

Now that Lebron's improved his game to the point where it probably can't get any better, he really needs to work on his PR skills. He says stupid shit that can be misinterpreted all the fvcking time. He comes off like a jackass during interviews, and considering his position in the NBA now, he should know better.


I don't think he cares TBH, people are going to criticize him no matter what he does or says and his PR skills are pretty good I think.

[Mr. Jabbar]

lebron :facepalm you don't bite the hand that feeds you...

[Goldrush25]

You guys are blowing this out of proportion. I think Lebron was referring to what he needed to do at that point in time, not how he needs to play in every game.

I'm sure he wishes Wade was healthy but it is what it is. Wade's more hurt than he's letting on.

[dh144498]

lebron was given such a good situation in 2009 and 2010, but he couldn't get it done. Now he's calling his Cavs teammates scrubs.

[Heilige]

You guys are blowing this out of proportion. I think Lebron was referring to what he needed to do at that point in time, not how he needs to play in every game.

I'm sure he wishes Wade was healthy but it is what it is. Wade's more hurt than he's letting on.


Can you check your PM?

[stanlove1111]

lebron was given such a good situation in 2009 and 2010, but he couldn't get it done. Now he's calling his Cavs teammates scrubs.


A good situation? You should try standup..

[Mr. Jabbar]

lebron was given such a good situation in 2009 and 2010, but he couldn't get it done. Now he's calling his Cavs teammates scrubs.

this.

lebrons cavs teams are vastly underrated, they were playing at great level, with ELITE team defense. you dont comfortably win the regular season with 1 guy. 1 guy can win you a game but not the whole season. I even remember big Z unable to miss a shot...

[dh144498]

A good situation? You should try standup..

#4 in offense and #3 in defense in 2009.
6 in offense and 7 in defense in 2010.

yeah, terrible team.

[Rasheed1]

I don't think he cares TBH, people are going to criticize him no matter what he does or says and his PR skills are pretty good I think.


This


There are always going to be people who try to misconstrue what he says (no matter what he says).

Look around this board.. alot of posters identities are built on it. I think the biggest stars get beyond that thing where they constantly try to say the right thing in the perfect way.. There is no such thing.. just ball, be great and rest will take care of itself (re: public opinion)

[stanlove1111]

this.

lebrons cavs teams are vastly underrated, they were playing at great level, with ELITE team defense. you dont comfortably win the regular season with 1 guy. 1 guy can win you a game but not the whole season. I even remember big Z unable to miss a shot...


I love the way you spin that..LeBron proves just how great he is by carrying a really weak team to challenge year after year and you claim this is not a sign of how great Lebron is, but that he Cavs actually had good players around Lebron...Funny stuff.

What was the Cavs record after Lebron left? Not asking for your opinion on what that means, what was their record..Just post it and we will let it hang there for a while..

Oh heck with it..They won 19 games without Lebron after winning 61 with him the year before..Man I bet he misses that great situation..

[Rose'sACL]

he just said “Yeah, I kind of just went back to my Cleveland days at that point and just said, hey, let’s try to make more plays and be more of a scoring threat as well, and just try to figure out a way that I can ‑‑ I don’t know, just see if the guys would just follow me, and just lead them the best way I could,” .
how is this throwing team mates under the bus? This forum thinks ESPN is evil and then gets influenced by ESPN the most.

[dh144498]

I love the way you spin that..LeBron proves just how great he is by carrying a really weak team to challenge year after year and you claim this is not a sign of how great Lebron is, but that he Cavs actually had good players around Lebron...Funny stuff.

What was the Cavs record after Lebron left? Not asking for your opinion on what that means, what was their record..Just post it and we will let it hang there for a while..

Oh heck with it..They won 19 games without Lebron after winning 61 with him the year before..Man I bet he misses that great situation..

complete roster change and coach change from 2010 to 2011.
:coleman:

[stanlove1111]

#4 in offense and #3 in defense in 2009.
6 in offense and 7 in defense in 2010.

yeah, terrible team.


You can post this garbage all you want..The important thing..19 win without Lebron, 61 with him...

OK next topic..

[Mr. Jabbar]

I love the way you spin that..LeBron proves just how great he is by carrying a really weak team to challenge year after year and you claim this is not a sign of how great Lebron is, but that he Cavs actually had good players around Lebron...Funny stuff.

What was the Cavs record after Lebron left? Not asking for your opinion on what that means, what was their record..Just post it and we will let it hang there for a while..

Oh heck with it..They won 19 games without Lebron after winning 61 with him the year before..Man I bet he misses that great situation..

brown left plus other players...it was not exactly the same team, of course they'd do way worse without lebron but it doesnt mean his teammates were dead weight during those runs, they were good contributors...

[dh144498]

You can post this garbage all you want..The important thing..19 win without Lebron, 61 with him...

OK next topic..

they changed their whole core the next year plus the coach.

Lebron stans in denial. :roll:

[tmacattack33]

they changed their whole core the next year plus the coach.

Lebron stans in denial. :roll:

Nope. Their first 40 games or so were before any trades or major injuries. It was very much the same team, minus Lebron. And through those 40 games, they were 9-31 or something...and those 40 games included that hilariously bad losing streak.


U Mad that someone here remembers it quite well and called you out on your lie?

[FLDFSU]

I love the way you spin that..LeBron proves just how great he is by carrying a really weak team to challenge year after year and you claim this is not a sign of how great Lebron is, but that he Cavs actually had good players around Lebron...Funny stuff.

What was the Cavs record after Lebron left? Not asking for your opinion on what that means, what was their record..Just post it and we will let it hang there for a while..

Oh heck with it..They won 19 games without Lebron after winning 61 with him the year before..Man I bet he misses that great situation..


Lebron Cavs were so great that he lead the team in minute, points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, their best defensive player, and needed to pretty much run the offense.

[stanlove1111]

brown left plus other players...it was not exactly the same team, of course they'd do way worse without lebron but it doesnt mean his teammates were dead weight during those runs, they were good contributors...


They were NBA players. Compared to other teams they were awful..19 wins probed hat..
I always find it telling that the year Boston won it Lebron carried that awful Cav team to game 7 and barely lost to the Celts while Kobe and the Lakers got beat by about 300 in game 6 to the same Celt team with Kobe having a good supporting cast around him.
That seemed about right to m..

[stanlove1111]

they changed their whole core the next year plus the coach.

Lebron stans in denial. :roll:
He lies and then say Lebron fans are in denial...:lol

[dh144498]

They were NBA players. Compared to other teams they were awful..19 wins probed hat..
I always find it telling that the year Boston won it Lebron carried that awful Cav team to game 7 and barely lost to the Celts while Kobe and the Lakers got beat by about 300 in game 6 to the same Celt team with Kobe having a good supporting cast around him.
That seemed about right to m..

1. you are not comprehending anything I said. 2010 cast and 2011 cast were widely different with different coaches as well.
2. what does 2008 Cavs have to do with 09 and 10 Cavs, as those 2 teams were the ones I mentioned.

:biggums:

you must be steaming right now since you aren't thinking clearly.
dat logic.

[MostHated305]

Number of times Lebron averaged 35pts 8rebs 6ast in the playoffs = 25

Number of playoff games Kobrick averaged that = 9


kobetards have a reason to be insecure.

[FLDFSU]

He lies and then say Lebron fans are in denial...:lol

lol exactly. The only other players that left worth even mentioning was Big Z and Shaq.

And according to most here Brown was a awful coach anyway. Now all of a sudden Brown is a genius.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Playoffs:
2009 Mo: 16/4, .530 TS%
2013 Wade: 14/6, .499 TS%

2009 Jamison: 15/7, .540 TS%
2013 Bosh : 13/6, .570 TS%

:confusedshrug:
Touche ...

[Nebraskanball]

Number of times Lebron averaged 35pts 8rebs 6ast in the playoffs = 25

Number of playoff games Kobrick averaged that = 9


kobetards have a reason to be insecure.
^^^^ Number of Heat fans that don't understand basketball = all of them.

[MostHated305]

^^^^ Number of Heat fans that don't understand basketball = all of them.

Numbers dont lie

u mad huh

[DMAVS41]

Playoffs:
2009 Mo: 16/4, .530 TS%
2013 Wade: 14/6, .499 TS%

2009 Jamison: 15/7, .540 TS%
2013 Bosh : 13/6, .570 TS%

:confusedshrug:

The sad thing is that Wade and Bosh are better though...Wade is a much better defender than Mo...and anyone off the street is a better defender than Jamison.

And the rest of the team is better as well.

It's not like Lebron needed a lot more in 09 anyway...this Heat team is definitely better than the 09 and 10 Cavs...and definitely good enough for Lebron to win it all.

Lebron just has to play great. Simple as that.

[Nebraskanball]

Numbers dont lie

u mad huh
You can't compare stats straight up when you're comparing a 6'9 PF/SF to a 6'6 SG that plays the point a lot.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're just another typical 3-year Heat fan, so it's expected.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lebron just has to play great. Simple as that.
Which should always be the case when winning a championship anyway, your best player has to BE the best player on the floor.

It all is cyclical to the reasoning why so many people hated his decision to stack the deck with Wade and Bosh from a competition stand point. It wasn't an honest think to do. You don't do that when you have as much talent as James has.

He said with his own words, and even this quote echoing it ... LeBron essentially wanted to escape the pressure of the moment in the playoffs, of ALWAYS having to be the best player on the floor.

It's that simple.

[NumberSix]

LeBron. BULLY!

[MostHated305]

You can't compare stats straight up when your comparing a 6'9 PF/SF to a 6'6 SG that plays the point a lot.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're just another typical 3-year Heat fan, so it's expected.


you retard. noone is arguing pyshical stature or athleticism.

The better player is the better player dumbf*ck.

LBJ > kobrick

deal with it.

[DMAVS41]

Which should always be the case when winning a championship anyway, your best player has to BE the best player on the floor.

It all is cyclical to the reasoning why so many people hated his decision to stack the deck with Wade and Bosh from a competition stand point. It wasn't an honest think to do. You don't do that when you have as much talent as James has.

He said with his own words, and even this quote echoing it ... LeBron essentially wanted to escape the pressure of the moment in the playoffs, of ALWAYS having to be the best player on the floor.

It's that simple.

Nah. The problem in Cleveland was that even if he was great...hell, beyond great...they still could lose and did lose. Not to mention the Cavs were an aging supporting cast with no ability to attract free agents.

Hate on him for not going to the Knicks or something, but not for leaving.

But yes...this current team is good enough for Lebron to win the title with if he plays great. Other players have done it...now it's his turn.

If Lebron beats the Pacers and then the Spurs getting this kind of production from his teammates...it will jump up his legacy moreso than just winning the title getting normal championship help.

So it's all there before him. Be great and legendary...and your place in history will reflect that.

[NumberSix]

Nah. The problem in Cleveland was that even if he was great...hell, beyond great...they still could lose and did lose. Not to mention the Cavs were an aging supporting cast with no ability to attract free agents.

Hate on him for not going to the Knicks or something, but not for leaving.

But yes...this current team is good enough for Lebron to win the title with if he plays great. Other players have done it...now it's his turn.

If Lebron beats the Pacers and then the Spurs getting this kind of production from his teammates...it will jump up his legacy moreso than just winning the title getting normal championship help.

So it's all there before him. Be great and legendary...and your place in history will reflect that.
NumberSix. BULLY!!

DMAVS41. BULLY!!

Bladers. He's eating his boogers.

Pedo123. Phaggit.

[The-Legend-24]

NumberSix. BULLY!!

DMAVS41. BULLY!!

Bladers. He's eating his boogers.

Pedo123. Phaggit.
NumberSix

[NumberSix]

NumberSix
BULLY!!

[FLDFSU]

Which should always be the case when winning a championship anyway, your best player has to BE the best player on the floor.

It all is cyclical to the reasoning why so many people hated his decision to stack the deck with Wade and Bosh from a competition stand point. It wasn't an honest think to do. You don't do that when you have as much talent as James has.

He said with his own words, and even this quote echoing it ... LeBron essentially wanted to escape the pressure of the moment in the playoffs, of ALWAYS having to be the best player on the floor.

It's that simple.


When you have 2 other 100 million dollar teammates the least they can do is give you more than 17 points combined.

Lebron can be the best player on the court. That is fair. What is not is him having to carry the load in every major statistically category.

Bosh and Wade need to step up and not disappear.

Parker doesn't expect Duncan to carry him to a title, but he does expect Duncan to play at a high level and contribute mightily to the task of winning a championship.

[Solefade]

Nope. Their first 40 games or so were before any trades or major injuries. It was very much the same team, minus Lebron. And through those 40 games, they were 9-31 or something...and those 40 games included that hilariously bad losing streak.


U Mad that someone here remembers it quite well and called you out on your lie?

Dat ether.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Nope. Their first 40 games or so were before any trades or major injuries. It was very much the same team, minus Lebron. And through those 40 games, they were 9-31 or something...and those 40 games included that hilariously bad losing streak.


U Mad that someone here remembers it quite well and called you out on your lie?



Except no, it wasn't at all "very much the same team minus Lebron"

Shaq was gone

Big Z was gone

Delonte West was gone

Mike Brown was gone

That's 3 players who were MAJOR contributors to the 10' team & the coach who orchestrated a top defensive year in and year out. Not to mention Andy V was hurt & only played in 31 games..

That'd be like Kobe leaving the Lakers in 2010 & along with him goes pjax, Odom & Bynum & Artest then trying to claim that the 2011 Lakers are very much the same minus Kobe

:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

I love the way you spin that..LeBron proves just how great he is by carrying a really weak team to challenge year after year and you claim this is not a sign of how great Lebron is, but that he Cavs actually had good players around Lebron...Funny stuff.

What was the Cavs record after Lebron left? Not asking for your opinion on what that means, what was their record..Just post it and we will let it hang there for a while..

Oh heck with it..They won 19 games without Lebron after winning 61 with him the year before..Man I bet he misses that great situation..



2009 Cavs playoffs:
MoWill 16 pts, 4 ast, 3 reb, 53% TS
West 14 pts, 4 ast, 4 reb, 55% TS
Big Z 11 pts, 1 ast, 8 reb, 48% TS

2010 Cavs playoffs:
MoWill 14 pts, 5 ast, 3 reb, 54% TS
Jamison 15 pts, 1 ast, 7 reb, 54% TS
Shaq 12 pts, 1 ast, 6 reb, 56% TS

2013 Heat playoffs:
Wade 14 pts, 6 ast, 5 reb, 50% TS
Bosh 13 pts, 1 ast, 7 reb, 57% TS
Allen 10 pts, 1 ast, 3 reb, 56% TS

- If he changed in Cleveland...like he changed in Maimi ( after 11')...he would have won titles in Celveland!

[Solefade]

Except no, it wasn't at all "very much the same team minus Lebron"

Shaq was gone

Big Z was gone

Delonte West was gone

Mike Brown was gone

That's 3 players who were MAJOR contributors to the 10' team & the coach who orchestrated a top defensive year in and year out. Not to mention Andy V was hurt & only played in 31 games..

That'd be like Kobe leaving the Lakers in 2010 & along with him goes pjax, Odom & Bynum & Artest then trying to claim that the 2011 Lakers are very much the same minus Kobe

:facepalm


If you say that then you're basically implying Mo is the worst "side kick" on a "championship" team ever. Their "2nd best player" only carried them to 9 wins in 40 games. Let's just put that into perspective. Meanwhile, Pau was capable enough to take a crappy Memphis team into the playoffs.

[bluechox2]

Cleavland lebron no chance vs the spurs

[longtime lurker]

I don't see it as a shot as much as him saying that he became more assertive and put the team on his back. Which is what he should be doing every game.

[305Baller]

Cleveland LeBron is a one trick pony. It works for a win or two but to it will be tough to win a whole series with only Bron popping off...

[Leftimage]

There is nothing wrong with asserting that many of your teammates had an off night. I'm sure many of them acknowledged this themselves in the locker room. These guys aren't drama queens they're basketball players.

ISH, the national enquirer of the basketball world (sometimes)

[TheMarkMadsen]

If you say that then you're basically implying Mo is the worst "side kick" on a "championship" team ever. Their "2nd best player" only carried them to 9 wins in 40 games. Let's just put that into perspective. Meanwhile, Pau was capable enough to take a crappy Memphis team into the playoffs.


What are you talking about :roll: they weren't a championship team b/c they never even made a finals..

Cavs lost 4 starters & a head coach.

"Very much the same team" :roll:

[Bigsmoke]

What are you talking about :roll: they weren't a championship team b/c they never even made a finals..

Cavs lost 4 starters & a head coach.

"Very much the same team" :roll:

Lol Shaq only played half the season and played like 23 minutes in each of them. Not to mention how horrible on defense he was for the Cavs that year besides when he defended Dwight in those Regular season games.

Z was basically nobody in 2010 and Mike Brown aint shit.

If u really believe that the Cavs fell the **** off because of Shaq and Z not being there then you're just stupid